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[John Naylor]

Have you got this with anything other than system objects.
If not you need to have a look back at this years www.adsm.org for problem
expiring system objects and action to take,






Lawrie Scott - Persetel Q Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/20/2002
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Hi All

I am trying to expire all my data except the latest active version. My
backup copy group settings are as follows:-

Policy Domain Name WINDOWS
Policy Set Name ACTIVE
Mgmt Class Name WINDOWS
Copy Group Name STANDARD
Versions Data Exists 1
Versions Data Deleted 0
Retain Extra Versions 0
Retain Only Version 0
Copy Mode MODIFIED
Copy Serialization DYNAMIC
Copy Frequency 0
Copy Destination WINDOWS
Last Update Date/Time 2002-12-20 07:52:24.00
Last Update by (administrator) ADMIN Managing profile -

However when I use a select statement just to look at one file to see its
status this is what I see:-
select * from backups where node_name='ALSBCK' and ll_name='BOOT.INI'

Operation Results


  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: ACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 28209279
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-12-20 00:10:03.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE:
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 21347128
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-10-29 19:41:41.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-04 23:57:37.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 22179567
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-04 23:57:37.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-05 21:13:14.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 22618038
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-05 21:13:14.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-06 19:36:13.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 22875347
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-06 19:36:13.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-11 19:41:46.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 23481388
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-11 19:41:46.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-19 17:15:50.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 24304303
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-19 17:15:50.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-29 09:41:35.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 25991488
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-29 09:41:35.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-29 23:46:42.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 26097958
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-29 23:46:42.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-12-01 21:59:49.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 26259332
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-12-01 21:59:49.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-12-02 23:07:36.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 26442741
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-12-02 23:07:36.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-12-05 12:05:07.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT


There is still a whole lot of inactive files available some as far back as a
month. The expire command i'm using is expi i w=n and some files where
delete according to the query process however nowhere near enough as can be
seen from the select statement.

Help I need 

Re: Slow AIX Client backup

[John Naylor]

Have a look at the activity log statistics
Is Data transfer time:  a large percentage of Elapsed processing time:
If so you have a network issue





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I have an AIX client that is backing up very slow. It is an IBM J50
running an application called Softlab. It use to take
4 1/2 hours per night going to tape. When we put it on TSM for testing
it was doing 4 gb in about 4 hours. Which I said
was slow, compared to are other AIX boxes. We checked the NIC and the
switch settings both are at 100/full. They had
no problem with this cause it was still a half hour quicker then what
they had. Now we have put it into the rotation and
they are screaming it has doubled to like 8 hours. I only being the
administrator and not knowing much about the network
group or the AIX systems group, do not know what else to check. Does
anybody have any clues for me? I am running
TSM server ver 4.2.3 (on AIX 4.3.3)  client ver 4.2.2.1

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Re: Client tries to backup non-existing files

[John Naylor]

Thats a good thought Richard, and easily checked with an sql query
However if this is the same as I am seeing the sql does not find anything.





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12/19/02   04:43:43 ANS1228E Sending of object '/bla/bla/file' failed

Every night the client complains about the same files.

And now for the bizarre part: According to our
customer these files have been removed from
the client some time ago...

Hmmm... I wonder if the Sending error might be the client having seen
the name in the active-files list it got from the server at the start
of the backup and, not having found the file in the client file system,
is trying to incite an Expire, but is having trouble communicating that
file name to the server (odd characters, etc.).  Keep in mind that many
message-issuance routines expect normalcy in the strings they handle,
and neither look for nor deal with inadvertent non-displayable, binary
characters.  That kind of thing can always throw off an investigation:
what you see is not the reality.

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Réf. : Re: Slow AIX Client backup

[Eric LANGUILLE]

I have some cartridges which are outside after a move media.
After an expire inventory, they are empty but not scratch
How do i do (delete volume?...)
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RE: Réf. : Re: Slow AIX Client backup

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Hi Eric,

Some questions before beeeing in a position  to respond :
- do you use DRM
- where those tapes checked-in with status scratch
- what value did you use for parameter delay period for volume reuse when you 
defined the storage pool those tapes are belonging to

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Re: Expiring Of Data

[Lawrie Scott - Persetel Q Vector]

Hi
I have tried another file and below is the result.


 Operation Results




  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: \\alsbck\c$
   FILESPACE_ID: 1
  STATE: ACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: DSM.OPT
  OBJECT_ID: 22617845
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-05 19:03:11.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE:
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: \\alsbck\c$
   FILESPACE_ID: 1
  STATE: ACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \PROGRAM FILES\TIVOLI PATCHES\SCRIPTS\
LL_NAME: DSM.OPT
  OBJECT_ID: 10712409
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-08-13 20:27:40.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE:
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: \\alsbck\c$
   FILESPACE_ID: 1
  STATE: ACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \PROGRAM FILES\TIVOLI PATCHES\WINDOWS2000\
LL_NAME: DSM.OPT
  OBJECT_ID: 9981973
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-08-09 20:52:09.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE:
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: \\alsbck\c$
   FILESPACE_ID: 1
  STATE: ACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME:
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-1614895754-176339-725345543-1396\DC1\
LL_NAME: DSM.OPT
  OBJECT_ID: 25990473
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-29 09:23:28.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE:
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT



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Have you got this with anything other than system objects.
If not you need to have a look back at this years www.adsm.org for problem
expiring system objects and action to take,






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Hi All

I am trying to expire all my data except the latest active version. My
backup copy group settings are as follows:-

Policy Domain Name WINDOWS
Policy Set Name ACTIVE
Mgmt Class Name WINDOWS
Copy Group Name STANDARD
Versions Data Exists 1
Versions Data Deleted 0
Retain Extra Versions 0
Retain Only Version 0
Copy Mode MODIFIED
Copy Serialization DYNAMIC
Copy Frequency 0
Copy Destination WINDOWS
Last Update Date/Time 2002-12-20 07:52:24.00
Last Update by (administrator) ADMIN Managing profile -

However when I use a select statement just to look at one file to see its
status this is what I see:-
select * from backups where node_name='ALSBCK' and ll_name='BOOT.INI'

Operation Results


  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: ACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 28209279
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-12-20 00:10:03.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE:
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 21347128
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-10-29 19:41:41.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-04 23:57:37.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 22179567
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-04 23:57:37.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-05 21:13:14.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 22618038
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-05 21:13:14.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-06 19:36:13.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 22875347
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-06 19:36:13.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-11 19:41:46.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 23481388
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-11 19:41:46.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-19 17:15:50.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 24304303
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-19 17:15:50.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-29 09:41:35.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM 

Re: Expiring Of Data

[John Naylor]

None of these are inactive backups, so looks like you might have the system
objects problem
Search ardsm.org for cleanup backupgroups





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Hi
I have tried another file and below is the result.


 Operation Results




  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: \\alsbck\c$
   FILESPACE_ID: 1
  STATE: ACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: DSM.OPT
  OBJECT_ID: 22617845
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-05 19:03:11.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE:
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: \\alsbck\c$
   FILESPACE_ID: 1
  STATE: ACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \PROGRAM FILES\TIVOLI PATCHES\SCRIPTS\
LL_NAME: DSM.OPT
  OBJECT_ID: 10712409
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-08-13 20:27:40.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE:
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: \\alsbck\c$
   FILESPACE_ID: 1
  STATE: ACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \PROGRAM FILES\TIVOLI PATCHES\WINDOWS2000\
LL_NAME: DSM.OPT
  OBJECT_ID: 9981973
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-08-09 20:52:09.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE:
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: \\alsbck\c$
   FILESPACE_ID: 1
  STATE: ACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME:
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-1614895754-176339-725345543-1396\DC1\
LL_NAME: DSM.OPT
  OBJECT_ID: 25990473
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-29 09:23:28.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE:
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT



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Have you got this with anything other than system objects.
If not you need to have a look back at this years www.adsm.org for problem
expiring system objects and action to take,






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Hi All

I am trying to expire all my data except the latest active version. My
backup copy group settings are as follows:-

Policy Domain Name WINDOWS
Policy Set Name ACTIVE
Mgmt Class Name WINDOWS
Copy Group Name STANDARD
Versions Data Exists 1
Versions Data Deleted 0
Retain Extra Versions 0
Retain Only Version 0
Copy Mode MODIFIED
Copy Serialization DYNAMIC
Copy Frequency 0
Copy Destination WINDOWS
Last Update Date/Time 2002-12-20 07:52:24.00
Last Update by (administrator) ADMIN Managing profile -

However when I use a select statement just to look at one file to see its
status this is what I see:-
select * from backups where node_name='ALSBCK' and ll_name='BOOT.INI'

Operation Results


  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: ACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 28209279
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-12-20 00:10:03.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE:
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 21347128
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-10-29 19:41:41.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-04 23:57:37.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 22179567
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-04 23:57:37.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-05 21:13:14.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 22618038
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-05 21:13:14.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-06 19:36:13.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 22875347
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-06 19:36:13.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-11 19:41:46.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  NODE_NAME: ALSBCK
 FILESPACE_NAME: SYSTEM OBJECT
   FILESPACE_ID: 3
  STATE: INACTIVE_VERSION
   TYPE: FILE
HL_NAME: \
LL_NAME: BOOT.INI
  OBJECT_ID: 23481388
BACKUP_DATE: 2002-11-11 19:41:46.00
DEACTIVATE_DATE: 2002-11-19 17:15:50.00
  OWNER:
 CLASS_NAME: DEFAULT

  

Re: Client tries to backup non-existing files

[Alexander Verkooyen]

Richard,

Yes, you might be right. I've started a SQL query
to find out if the server still thinks the
files are active.

Best regards,

Alexander

Richard Sims wrote:

 Hmmm... I wonder if the Sending error might be the client having seen
 the name in the active-files list it got from the server at the start
 of the backup and, not having found the file in the client file system,
 is trying to incite an Expire, but is having trouble communicating that
 file name to the server (odd characters, etc.).  Keep in mind that many
 message-issuance routines expect normalcy in the strings they handle,
 and neither look for nor deal with inadvertent non-displayable, binary
 characters.  That kind of thing can always throw off an investigation:
 what you see is not the reality.

   Richard Sims, BU

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Re: Client tries to backup non-existing files

[Alexander Verkooyen]

Mark Stapleton wrote:

 Well, there's part of the problem there. '*' is an invalid character for
 a filename in any UNIX system I've ever heard of. Such filenames appear
 from time to time when using misconfigured moves and copies.

 Get the box's owner to rename the files so that the '*' doesn't appear
 anymore. Such as:

 mv my?file.txt my_file.txt

I'm afraid that it will be quite difficult
to rename the files since they no longer
exist.

Kind regards,

Alexander

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Trusting the results of a backup

[Peter Duempert]

Hi *SM'ers
   the following lines from the Activity-Log ( Q ACTL begint=03:00 s=rzis3 )
show the backing up of a CMS-Database (C_ontent M_anagement S_ystem). The
latter one is backed up in a SHUTDOWN-state, i.e. the Database is NOT
running.
   The biggest piece of the /opt/oracle-directory
rzis3:/opt/oracle # du -ks .
20287424  .
   has a size of ca. 11GB

IDLETIMEOUT is the default 15 MIN ( not set in dsmserv.opt )

My questions are:
1.  What causes the session 292560 to timeout after 15 mins?

2.  Are the relicts of session 292560 the starting base for the
next session 292567 ( starting at 03:36) and ending with the
expected results together with the initial session 292560 ?

3.  Are the final results shown in the activity-log TRUE and can I
trust that the backup is REALLY OK ?



tsm: DS3q actl begint=03:00 s=rzis3

Date/TimeMessage

--
20.12.2002 03:02:02  ANR0406I Session 292560 started for node RZIS3
(Linux86)
  (Tcp/Ip 134.169.9.189(49147)).
20.12.2002 03:02:07  ANR0406I Session 292561 started for node RZIS3
(Linux86)
  (Tcp/Ip 134.169.9.189(49148)).
20.12.2002 03:25:02  ANR0482W Session 292560 for node RZIS3 (Linux86)
  terminated - idle for more than 15 minutes.
20.12.2002 03:36:05  ANR0406I Session 292567 started for node RZIS3
(Linux86)
  (Tcp/Ip 134.169.9.189(49156)).
20.12.2002 03:41:09  ANR0403I Session 292561 ended for node RZIS3
(Linux86).
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANE4952I (Session: 292567, Node: RZIS3)  Total
number of
  objects inspected:  249,812
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANE4954I (Session: 292567, Node: RZIS3)  Total
number of
  objects backed up:  140
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANE4958I (Session: 292567, Node: RZIS3)  Total
number of
  objects updated:  0
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANE4960I (Session: 292567, Node: RZIS3)  Total
number of
  objects rebound:  0
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANE4957I (Session: 292567, Node: RZIS3)  Total
number of
  objects deleted:  0
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANE4970I (Session: 292567, Node: RZIS3)  Total
number of
  objects expired:  0
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANE4959I (Session: 292567, Node: RZIS3)  Total
number of
  objects failed:   0
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANE4961I (Session: 292567, Node: RZIS3)  Total
number of
  bytes transferred: 6.21 GB
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANE4963I (Session: 292567, Node: RZIS3)  Data
transfer
  time:  256.14 sec
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANE4966I (Session: 292567, Node: RZIS3)  Network
data
  transfer rate:25,435.16 KB/sec
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANE4967I (Session: 292567, Node: RZIS3)
Aggregate data
  transfer rate:  2,775.84 KB/sec
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANE4968I (Session: 292567, Node: RZIS3)  Objects
  compressed by:   71%
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANE4964I (Session: 292567, Node: RZIS3)  Elapsed
  processing time:00:39:07
20.12.2002 03:41:10  ANR0403I Session 292567 ended for node RZIS3
(Linux86).


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AW: Réf. : Re: Slow AIX Client backup

[Schoenleitner Thomas]

hi!

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Eric LANGUILLE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Freitag, 20. Dezember 2002 11:25
 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff: Réf. : Re: Slow AIX Client backup
 
 
 I have some cartridges which are outside after a move media.
 After an expire inventory, they are empty but not scratch
 How do i do (delete volume?...)

the scripts doing this work for me contains the following line:

move media * stgpool=copy1 wherestate=mountablenotinlib wherestatus=empty

after this command the emty volumes are deleted and you can checkin them as scratch!

thomas 


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bacup primary to copy storage pool on LTO fails

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Hi everybody,


I#8217;ve got the following environment:

TSM server 5.1.1.6 on Windows 2000 SP2 (IBM Netfinity server xSeries 232)
IBM LTO library 3583, 2 LTO drives and 18 slots
The library is connected with two Adaptec SCSI card 29160 Ultra160 SCSI controllers 
(driver name: Adaptec, version 6.1.530.201, date 5/14/2002). The first controller goes 
to one drive and the other controller to the robot arm and the second drive
The IBM LTO device drivers are of IBM corporation, version 5.0.3.2

I#8217;ve got a failure when I take a backup of the primary storage pool on LTO to 
the copy storage pool. The copying stops when large files need to be transferred from 
tape to tape (large is bigger than 2 GB).  A write error is found in the activity log, 
the tape of the copy storage pool gets the status read-only and another scratch pool 
is allocated to the copy storage pool. The backup goes on a while until the next large 
file is met. The errors in the activity log are:

12/20/2002 09:55:43   ANR8302E I/O error on drive DRIVE1 (mt0.0.0.3) (OP=WRITE,
   Error Number=121, CC=0, KEY=00, ASC=00, ASCQ=00,
   SENSE=**NONE**, Description=An undetermined error has
   occurred).  Refer to Appendix D in the 'Messages' manual
   for recommended action.
12/20/2002 09:55:43   ANR1411W Access mode for volume 20L1 now set to
   read-only due to write error.
12/20/2002 10:04:31   ANR8302E I/O error on drive DRIVE1 (mt0.0.0.3) (OP=LOCATE,
   Error Number=1104, CC=0, KEY=08, ASC=14, ASCQ=03,
   SENSE=70.00.08.00.00.00.00.1C.00.00.00.00.14.03.00.00.20-
   .76.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.05.00.00.9A.8D.00.0-
   0.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.-
   00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00-
   .00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.0-
   0.00.00.00.00, Description=An undetermined error has
   occurred).  Refer to Appendix D in the 'Messages' manual
   for recommended action.
12/20/2002 10:04:31   ANR1411W Access mode for volume 10L1 now set to
  read-only due to write error.

12/20/2002 10:44:24   ANR8302E I/O error on drive DRIVE1 (mt0.0.0.3) (OP=WRITE,
   Error Number=121, CC=0, KEY=00, ASC=00, ASCQ=00,
   SENSE=**NONE**, Description=An undetermined error has
   occurred).  Refer to Appendix D in the 'Messages' manual
   for recommended action.
12/20/2002 10:44:24   ANR1411W Access mode for volume LA0014L1 now set to
   read-only due to write error.

12/20/2002 11:11:13   ANR8302E I/O error on drive DRIVE1 (mt0.0.0.3) (OP=WRITE,
   Error Number=121, CC=0, KEY=00, ASC=00, ASCQ=00,
   SENSE=**NONE**, Description=An undetermined error has
   occurred).  Refer to Appendix D in the 'Messages' manual
   for recommended action.
12/20/2002 11:11:13   ANR1411W Access mode for volume LA0015L1 now set to
   read-only due to write error.
12/20/2002 11:31:06   ANR2017I Administrator ADMIN issued command: QUERY ACTLOG
   begindate=today-1 begintime=08:00 enddate=today
   endtime=now search=error

In the event viewer of the TSM server, I#8217;ve got the following error:

Source: adpu160m
Type: Error
Category: None
Event ID: 9
Description: The device, \Device\Scsi\adpu160m2, did not respond within the timeout 
period.

So there is a timeout somewhere during the copy of tape to tape with the large files.

Does anybody knows how to solve this problem? How can the timeout be increased? The 
backup of the clients to the disk storage pool is fine and the flush of the disk 
storage pool to the LTO pool is without any problems as well. Is this a harware 
problem or a TSM problem?

Any help/input would greatly be appreciated,

Kurt

Re: Slow AIX Client backup

[Cook, Dwight E]

try watching the interface on the tsm server, if your site in general
doesn't run client compression, your server's interface might be flooded by
other traffic.  (heck, even if your clients run compression you still might
flood the interface)

#!/bin/ksh
# my_ent_stats
# if run hourly, will give output to track hourly traffic...
#   output files are
# /home/dsmadmin/ent#.stats
# /home/dsmadmin/ent#.stats.Dow  where Dow is 3 letter abbr of weekday
# THIS MUST BE RUN BY ROOT IN ORDER TO RESET THE INTERFACE STATISTICS
#
for INTERFACE in $(netstat -in | grep ^e | cut -d' ' -f1 | sort -u )
do
echo $(date +%a-%b-%d-%Y-%H:%M) $(entstat $INTERFACE | grep ^Bytes | sed
's/
 / /g' | sed 's/Bytes:/ /g')  /home/dsmadmin/$INTERFACE.stats
echo $(date +%a-%b-%d-%Y-%H:%M)  /home/dsmadmin/$INTERFACE.stats.$(date
+%a)
entstat $INTERFACE  /home/dsmadmin/$INTERFACE.stats.$(date +%a)
entstat -r $INTERFACE 1/dev/null 21
done
chmod ugo+rw /home/dsmadmin/en*
exit


Dwight



-Original Message-
From: Anderson, Michael - HMIS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Slow AIX Client backup


I have an AIX client that is backing up very slow. It is an IBM J50
running an application called Softlab. It use to take
4 1/2 hours per night going to tape. When we put it on TSM for testing
it was doing 4 gb in about 4 hours. Which I said
was slow, compared to are other AIX boxes. We checked the NIC and the
switch settings both are at 100/full. They had
no problem with this cause it was still a half hour quicker then what
they had. Now we have put it into the rotation and
they are screaming it has doubled to like 8 hours. I only being the
administrator and not knowing much about the network
group or the AIX systems group, do not know what else to check. Does
anybody have any clues for me? I am running
TSM server ver 4.2.3 (on AIX 4.3.3)  client ver 4.2.2.1

 Thanks
 Mike Anderson
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Re: bacup primary to copy storage pool on LTO fails

[Halvorsen Geirr Gulbrand]

Hi Kurt,
I believe there is a problem with your driver for the 29160. The timeouts
are usually coded in the driver.
Check this with IBM;
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=547context=STCVQ6Yuid=ssg1S400
0097
and take a look at the file IBMUltrium.Win2k.Readme.txt

This article says serious performance problems when using adaptec's
drivers, but I've seen other strange errors, when using the wrong driver. I
would always recommend IBM's driver, which you can find here:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/Win2000/ the file is called
adaptec_lun.zip.

Hope this helps - from my experience, these kind of problems might take
while to isolate/solve.

Rgds
Geirr G. Halvorsen

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20. december 2002 13:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: bacup primary to copy storage pool on LTO fails


Hi everybody,


I#8217;ve got the following environment:

TSM server 5.1.1.6 on Windows 2000 SP2 (IBM Netfinity server xSeries 232)
IBM LTO library 3583, 2 LTO drives and 18 slots
The library is connected with two Adaptec SCSI card 29160 Ultra160 SCSI
controllers (driver name: Adaptec, version 6.1.530.201, date 5/14/2002). The
first controller goes to one drive and the other controller to the robot arm
and the second drive
The IBM LTO device drivers are of IBM corporation, version 5.0.3.2

I#8217;ve got a failure when I take a backup of the primary storage pool on
LTO to the copy storage pool. The copying stops when large files need to be
transferred from tape to tape (large is bigger than 2 GB).  A write error is
found in the activity log, the tape of the copy storage pool gets the status
read-only and another scratch pool is allocated to the copy storage pool.
The backup goes on a while until the next large file is met. The errors in
the activity log are:

12/20/2002 09:55:43   ANR8302E I/O error on drive DRIVE1 (mt0.0.0.3)
(OP=WRITE,
   Error Number=121, CC=0, KEY=00, ASC=00, ASCQ=00,
   SENSE=**NONE**, Description=An undetermined error has
   occurred).  Refer to Appendix D in the 'Messages'
manual
   for recommended action.
12/20/2002 09:55:43   ANR1411W Access mode for volume 20L1 now set to
   read-only due to write error.
12/20/2002 10:04:31   ANR8302E I/O error on drive DRIVE1 (mt0.0.0.3)
(OP=LOCATE,
   Error Number=1104, CC=0, KEY=08, ASC=14, ASCQ=03,

SENSE=70.00.08.00.00.00.00.1C.00.00.00.00.14.03.00.00.20-

.76.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.05.00.00.9A.8D.00.0-

0.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.-

00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00-

.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.0-
   0.00.00.00.00, Description=An undetermined error has
   occurred).  Refer to Appendix D in the 'Messages'
manual
   for recommended action.
12/20/2002 10:04:31   ANR1411W Access mode for volume 10L1 now set to
  read-only due to write error.

12/20/2002 10:44:24   ANR8302E I/O error on drive DRIVE1 (mt0.0.0.3)
(OP=WRITE,
   Error Number=121, CC=0, KEY=00, ASC=00, ASCQ=00,
   SENSE=**NONE**, Description=An undetermined error has
   occurred).  Refer to Appendix D in the 'Messages'
manual
   for recommended action.
12/20/2002 10:44:24   ANR1411W Access mode for volume LA0014L1 now set to
   read-only due to write error.

12/20/2002 11:11:13   ANR8302E I/O error on drive DRIVE1 (mt0.0.0.3)
(OP=WRITE,
   Error Number=121, CC=0, KEY=00, ASC=00, ASCQ=00,
   SENSE=**NONE**, Description=An undetermined error has
   occurred).  Refer to Appendix D in the 'Messages'
manual
   for recommended action.
12/20/2002 11:11:13   ANR1411W Access mode for volume LA0015L1 now set to
   read-only due to write error.
12/20/2002 11:31:06   ANR2017I Administrator ADMIN issued command: QUERY
ACTLOG
   begindate=today-1 begintime=08:00 enddate=today
   endtime=now search=error

In the event viewer of the TSM server, I#8217;ve got the following error:

Source: adpu160m
Type: Error
Category: None
Event ID: 9
Description: The device, \Device\Scsi\adpu160m2, did not respond within the
timeout period.

So there is a timeout somewhere during the copy of tape to tape with the
large files.

Does anybody knows how to solve this problem? How can the timeout be
increased? The backup of the clients to the disk storage pool is fine and
the flush of the disk storage pool to the LTO pool is without any problems
as well. Is this a harware problem or a TSM problem?

Any help/input would greatly be appreciated,

Kurt

rest dbmax and reset logmax

[Raghu S]

Hi

which of the q db f=d and q log f=d parameters reset when i do reset
dbmax and reset logmax respctly


regards

Raghu.

Re: rest dbmax and reset logmax

[Sias Dealy]

Raghu,


The reset dbmax reset the maximum utilization statistic for the
database.

The reset logmax reset the maximum utilization statistic for
the recovery log.

Sias



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 Hi

 which of the q db f=d and q log f=d parameters reset when i
do reset
 dbmax and reset logmax respctly


 regards

 Raghu.

Re: SystemObjects

[Gerhard Rentschler]

Hello,
what option do we have do specify with show versions if the filespace is
unicode?
Regards
Gerhard

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 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Jolliff, Dale
 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: SystemObjects


 Easy way to tell is to

 show versions {node name} SYSTEM OBJECT

 and look for excessive amounts of records that have **EXPIRE IMMEDIATELY**
 (or some such, I don't recall the exact text) in them.


 -Original Message-
 From: Frost, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: SystemObjects


 Bruce,

 I don't think so.

 To tell, look at the occupancy object count for your sys-objects.  I would
 think that = 20,000 for an average system is not unreasonable, but the
 figure varies with the copygroup settings, whether active-directory is in
 use, etc.

 We have had counts  1.1 _million_ for some sys-objects!

 Check with your support.  We are still getting e-fixes for various aspects
 of system object expiration and also cleanup backupgroups.

 Regards,

 -=Dave=-
 +44 (0) 20 7608 7140

 It's not broken... it's just functionally challenged



   Bruce Kamp
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   Please respond to
   ADSM: Dist Stor
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 I'm running TSM 5.1.1.6 on AIX 4.3.3 ML10
 My questions are:
 1.  Is systemobject problem fixed at this level?
 2.  If not how do tell when they start getting out of hand?
 Here is the Q OCC for one of my 2000 nodes.


 Node Name   Type  FilespaceFSID  Storage Number of   Physical
 Logical
   Name   Pool Name   Files  Space
 Space
  Occupied
 Occupied
  (MB)
 (MB)
 --    --  -  --  -  -
 -
 MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  DRMPOOL26,799
 7,100.13   6,627.57
01\c$

 MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  WIN_DISK_-216
 541.10 541.10
01\c$  POOL

 MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  WIN_TAPE_- 26,583
 6,732.20   6,086.53
01\c$  POOL

 MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  DRMPOOL 6,008
 362.52 362.52
01\d$

 MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  WIN_DISK_-  5
 0.02   0.02
01\d$  POOL

 MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  WIN_TAPE_-  6,003
 362.50 362.50
01\d$  POOL

 MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  DRMPOOL 9,095
 45,130.72  45,130.72
01\e$

 MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  WIN_DISK_-161
 795.31 795.31
01\e$  POOL

 MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  WIN_TAPE_-  8,934
 44,335.53  44,335.53
01\e$  POOL

 MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  DRMPOOL10,584   1,385.07
 1,385.07
OBJECT

 MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  WIN_DISK_-  1,764 234.10
 234.10
OBJECT POOL

 MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  WIN_TAPE_-  8,820   1,154.31
 1,154.31
OBJECT POOL


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Re: Client tries to backup non-existing files

[Alexander Verkooyen]

Richard was right (Thanks Richard!).
My sql query finished. It found the deleted files.
The server thinks the files are still active.

I'm going to rename the file space and ask the customer
to run a fresh backup. After a few weeks I'll remove
the renamed file space. I see no other way to get rid
of these false references in the server.

Thanks to everybody who responded to my question!

Best regards,

Alexander

John Naylor wrote:

 Thats a good thought Richard, and easily checked with an sql query
 However if this is the same as I am seeing the sql does not find anything.

 Richard Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/19/2002 06:33:30 PM

 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 Subject:  Re: Client tries to backup non-existing files

 12/19/02   04:43:43 ANS1228E Sending of object '/bla/bla/file' failed
 
 Every night the client complains about the same files.
 
 And now for the bizarre part: According to our
 customer these files have been removed from
 the client some time ago...

 Hmmm... I wonder if the Sending error might be the client having seen
 the name in the active-files list it got from the server at the start
 of the backup and, not having found the file in the client file system,
 is trying to incite an Expire, but is having trouble communicating that
 file name to the server (odd characters, etc.).  Keep in mind that many
 message-issuance routines expect normalcy in the strings they handle,
 and neither look for nor deal with inadvertent non-displayable, binary
 characters.  That kind of thing can always throw off an investigation:
 what you see is not the reality.

   Richard Sims, BU

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tsmjbbd.exe default location

[Large, Matthew]

All,

I'm trying to design a Journal based backup solution, without ever having
used it! no problem.. there's loads of docs, but none of them document where
the tsmjbbd.exe file is installed.

can someone who used the default settings please tell me where it resides as
I need to place the tsmjbbd.ini file in the same directory.

Many thanks,

Matthew Large
TSM Infrastructure Engineer
Lavington Street
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Re: tsmjbbd.exe default location

[Magura, Curtis]

Matthew - Same dir as all of the other client components.. assuming you
took default install path:

c:\program files\tivoli\tsm\baclient

Curt Magura
Lockheed Martin EIS
Orlando, Fla.
321-235-1203


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Subject: tsmjbbd.exe default location


All,

I'm trying to design a Journal based backup solution, without ever having
used it! no problem.. there's loads of docs, but none of them document where
the tsmjbbd.exe file is installed.

can someone who used the default settings please tell me where it resides as
I need to place the tsmjbbd.ini file in the same directory.

Many thanks,

Matthew Large
TSM Infrastructure Engineer
Lavington Street
Int: 7430 4995
Ext: +44 207 902 4995




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Re: tsmjbbd.exe default location

[Richard Sims]

can someone who used the default settings please tell me where it resides as
I need to place the tsmjbbd.ini file in the same directory.

Curt supplied the specifics.
For future reference, remember the Technical Guide redbooks, which are
outstanding references for both explanations of new features and their
details.  (In this case, the 4.2 Technical Guide on page 58 shows the
default location.)

  Richard Sims, BU

Re: expire all my data except the latest active version

[Richard Sims]

(When posting, please employ an email Subject so the discussion thread
 can have a title.)

I am trying to expire all my data except the latest active version...

Absent from your posting was the pivotal information as to whether you
performed the requisite 'VALidate POlicyset' and 'ACTivate POlicyset'
operations after changing retention policies.

  Richard Sims, BU

Re: Domain or Virtualmountpoint?

[David E Ehresman]

Can anyone tell me whether a incremental backup of a virtualmountpoint
sets the last backup date/time stamp?

David

Re: SystemObjects

[Bruce Kamp]

When I use the command show versions api-sql system objects from my TSM
server it returns no data!  Am I using the wrong syntax?


Thanks,
---
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Memorial Healthcare System
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597
Fax: (954) 985-1404
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-Original Message-
From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


Easy way to tell is to

show versions {node name} SYSTEM OBJECT

and look for excessive amounts of records that have **EXPIRE IMMEDIATELY**
(or some such, I don't recall the exact text) in them.


-Original Message-
From: Frost, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


Bruce,

I don't think so.

To tell, look at the occupancy object count for your sys-objects.  I would
think that = 20,000 for an average system is not unreasonable, but the
figure varies with the copygroup settings, whether active-directory is in
use, etc.

We have had counts  1.1 _million_ for some sys-objects!

Check with your support.  We are still getting e-fixes for various aspects
of system object expiration and also cleanup backupgroups.

Regards,

-=Dave=-
+44 (0) 20 7608 7140

It's not broken... it's just functionally challenged



  Bruce Kamp
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I'm running TSM 5.1.1.6 on AIX 4.3.3 ML10
My questions are:
1.  Is systemobject problem fixed at this level?
2.  If not how do tell when they start getting out of hand? Here is the Q
OCC for one of my 2000 nodes.


Node Name   Type  FilespaceFSID  Storage Number of   Physical
Logical
  Name   Pool Name   Files  Space
Space
 Occupied
Occupied
 (MB)
(MB)
--    --  -  --  -  -
-
MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  DRMPOOL26,799
7,100.13   6,627.57
   01\c$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  WIN_DISK_-216
541.10 541.10
   01\c$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  WIN_TAPE_- 26,583
6,732.20   6,086.53
   01\c$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  DRMPOOL 6,008
362.52 362.52
   01\d$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  WIN_DISK_-  5
0.02   0.02
   01\d$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  WIN_TAPE_-  6,003
362.50 362.50
   01\d$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  DRMPOOL 9,095
45,130.72  45,130.72
   01\e$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  WIN_DISK_-161
795.31 795.31
   01\e$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  WIN_TAPE_-  8,934
44,335.53  44,335.53
   01\e$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  DRMPOOL10,584   1,385.07
1,385.07
   OBJECT

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  WIN_DISK_-  1,764 234.10
234.10
   OBJECT POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  WIN_TAPE_-  8,820   1,154.31
1,154.31
   OBJECT POOL


Thanks,
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Memorial Healthcare System
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Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597
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Re: SystemObjects

[Magura, Curtis]

You beat me to it Bruce! I get the same thing as younothing. Was just
about reading to send the same note to the list. Based on the growth of our
database I'm pretty sure that we have the problem. Was hoping to use this to
show before and after results. We are currently at 5.1.1.4 and will be going
to 5.1.5.x. Support has suggested 5.1.5.4.

Pretty quiet day with the upcoming holidays so I'm off to adsm.org to see
some of the previous conversations on this thread.

Curt Magura
Lockheed Martin EIS
Orlando, Fla.
321-235-1203


-Original Message-
From: Bruce Kamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


When I use the command show versions api-sql system objects from my TSM
server it returns no data!  Am I using the wrong syntax?

Re: SystemObjects

[Jolliff, Dale]

Well, on my windows nodes the system object is SYSTEM OBJECT.
Did you try it in upper case? Also, mine show up singular - SYSTEM OBJECT.

Do a Q FILESPACE {node} and you should see all the filespaces listed along
with the system object if it has one.



-Original Message-
From: Bruce Kamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


When I use the command show versions api-sql system objects from my TSM
server it returns no data!  Am I using the wrong syntax?


Thanks,
---
Bruce Kamp
Midrange Systems Analyst II
Memorial Healthcare System
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597
Fax: (954) 985-1404
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-Original Message-
From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


Easy way to tell is to

show versions {node name} SYSTEM OBJECT

and look for excessive amounts of records that have **EXPIRE IMMEDIATELY**
(or some such, I don't recall the exact text) in them.


-Original Message-
From: Frost, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


Bruce,

I don't think so.

To tell, look at the occupancy object count for your sys-objects.  I would
think that = 20,000 for an average system is not unreasonable, but the
figure varies with the copygroup settings, whether active-directory is in
use, etc.

We have had counts  1.1 _million_ for some sys-objects!

Check with your support.  We are still getting e-fixes for various aspects
of system object expiration and also cleanup backupgroups.

Regards,

-=Dave=-
+44 (0) 20 7608 7140

It's not broken... it's just functionally challenged



  Bruce Kamp
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  Manager
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  .EDU


  12/19/2002 03:36
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  Please respond to
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I'm running TSM 5.1.1.6 on AIX 4.3.3 ML10
My questions are:
1.  Is systemobject problem fixed at this level?
2.  If not how do tell when they start getting out of hand? Here is the Q
OCC for one of my 2000 nodes.


Node Name   Type  FilespaceFSID  Storage Number of   Physical
Logical
  Name   Pool Name   Files  Space
Space
 Occupied
Occupied
 (MB)
(MB)
--    --  -  --  -  -
-
MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  DRMPOOL26,799
7,100.13   6,627.57
   01\c$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  WIN_DISK_-216
541.10 541.10
   01\c$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  WIN_TAPE_- 26,583
6,732.20   6,086.53
   01\c$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  DRMPOOL 6,008
362.52 362.52
   01\d$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  WIN_DISK_-  5
0.02   0.02
   01\d$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  WIN_TAPE_-  6,003
362.50 362.50
   01\d$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  DRMPOOL 9,095
45,130.72  45,130.72
   01\e$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  WIN_DISK_-161
795.31 795.31
   01\e$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  WIN_TAPE_-  8,934
44,335.53  44,335.53
   01\e$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  DRMPOOL10,584   1,385.07
1,385.07
   OBJECT

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  WIN_DISK_-  1,764 234.10
234.10
   OBJECT POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  WIN_TAPE_-  8,820   1,154.31
1,154.31
   OBJECT POOL


Thanks,
---
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Midrange Systems Analyst II
Memorial Healthcare System
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597
Fax: (954) 985-1404
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Re: Domain or Virtualmountpoint?

[Richard Sims]

Can anyone tell me whether a incremental backup of a virtualmountpoint
sets the last backup date/time stamp?

David - Yes, same as for a real file system.

  Richard

Re: SystemObjects

[Bruce Kamp]

When I do q filespace it show SYSTEM OBJECT but the percent util is 0.
If I do a q occ it shows x MB for each SYSTEM OBJECT.
When I do the show version it still shows nothing!!!  I can't find show
version command in the documentation

---
Bruce Kamp
Midrange Systems Analyst II
Memorial Healthcare System
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597
Fax: (954) 985-1404
---


-Original Message-
From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


Well, on my windows nodes the system object is SYSTEM OBJECT. Did you try
it in upper case? Also, mine show up singular - SYSTEM OBJECT.

Do a Q FILESPACE {node} and you should see all the filespaces listed along
with the system object if it has one.



-Original Message-
From: Bruce Kamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


When I use the command show versions api-sql system objects from my TSM
server it returns no data!  Am I using the wrong syntax?


Thanks,
---
Bruce Kamp
Midrange Systems Analyst II
Memorial Healthcare System
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597
Fax: (954) 985-1404
---


-Original Message-
From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


Easy way to tell is to

show versions {node name} SYSTEM OBJECT

and look for excessive amounts of records that have **EXPIRE IMMEDIATELY**
(or some such, I don't recall the exact text) in them.


-Original Message-
From: Frost, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


Bruce,

I don't think so.

To tell, look at the occupancy object count for your sys-objects.  I would
think that = 20,000 for an average system is not unreasonable, but the
figure varies with the copygroup settings, whether active-directory is in
use, etc.

We have had counts  1.1 _million_ for some sys-objects!

Check with your support.  We are still getting e-fixes for various aspects
of system object expiration and also cleanup backupgroups.

Regards,

-=Dave=-
+44 (0) 20 7608 7140

It's not broken... it's just functionally challenged



  Bruce Kamp
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  12/19/2002 03:36
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  Please respond to
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I'm running TSM 5.1.1.6 on AIX 4.3.3 ML10
My questions are:
1.  Is systemobject problem fixed at this level?
2.  If not how do tell when they start getting out of hand? Here is the Q
OCC for one of my 2000 nodes.


Node Name   Type  FilespaceFSID  Storage Number of   Physical
Logical
  Name   Pool Name   Files  Space
Space
 Occupied
Occupied
 (MB)
(MB)
--    --  -  --  -  -
-
MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  DRMPOOL26,799
7,100.13   6,627.57
   01\c$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  WIN_DISK_-216
541.10 541.10
   01\c$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  WIN_TAPE_- 26,583
6,732.20   6,086.53
   01\c$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  DRMPOOL 6,008
362.52 362.52
   01\d$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  WIN_DISK_-  5
0.02   0.02
   01\d$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  WIN_TAPE_-  6,003
362.50 362.50
   01\d$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  DRMPOOL 9,095
45,130.72  45,130.72
   01\e$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  WIN_DISK_-161
795.31 795.31
   01\e$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  WIN_TAPE_-  8,934
44,335.53  44,335.53
   01\e$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  DRMPOOL10,584   1,385.07
1,385.07
   OBJECT

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  WIN_DISK_-  1,764 234.10
234.10
   OBJECT POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  

Re: Client tries to backup non-existing files

[Stephen E. Bacher]

Mark Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For example: my*file.txt

Well, there's part of the problem there. '*' is an invalid character for
a filename in any UNIX system I've ever heard of. Such filenames appear
from time to time when using misconfigured moves and copies.

'*' is a perfectly valid (though troublesome) character for filenames
on Unix systems.  (The only character that is absolutely invalid for
a filename - as opposed to a pathname - would be the slash / character.)
Yes, they can appear as unintended results of bad mv and cp command
invocations, but they are good filenames - they just require some quoting.

 - seb

Re: SystemObjects

[Jolliff, Dale]

What version of the server are you on?
I'm not sure what server version the show version command popped up in,
but I have not ever found (much) documentation on the show commands.


SHOW VERSION SOMENODE SYSTEM OBJECT

works for me on server versions 4.2.x and above on AIX and Solaris.




-Original Message-
From: Bruce Kamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


When I do q filespace it show SYSTEM OBJECT but the percent util is 0.
If I do a q occ it shows x MB for each SYSTEM OBJECT.
When I do the show version it still shows nothing!!!  I can't find show
version command in the documentation

---
Bruce Kamp
Midrange Systems Analyst II
Memorial Healthcare System
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597
Fax: (954) 985-1404
---


-Original Message-
From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


Well, on my windows nodes the system object is SYSTEM OBJECT. Did you try
it in upper case? Also, mine show up singular - SYSTEM OBJECT.

Do a Q FILESPACE {node} and you should see all the filespaces listed along
with the system object if it has one.



-Original Message-
From: Bruce Kamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


When I use the command show versions api-sql system objects from my TSM
server it returns no data!  Am I using the wrong syntax?


Thanks,
---
Bruce Kamp
Midrange Systems Analyst II
Memorial Healthcare System
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597
Fax: (954) 985-1404
---


-Original Message-
From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


Easy way to tell is to

show versions {node name} SYSTEM OBJECT

and look for excessive amounts of records that have **EXPIRE IMMEDIATELY**
(or some such, I don't recall the exact text) in them.


-Original Message-
From: Frost, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


Bruce,

I don't think so.

To tell, look at the occupancy object count for your sys-objects.  I would
think that = 20,000 for an average system is not unreasonable, but the
figure varies with the copygroup settings, whether active-directory is in
use, etc.

We have had counts  1.1 _million_ for some sys-objects!

Check with your support.  We are still getting e-fixes for various aspects
of system object expiration and also cleanup backupgroups.

Regards,

-=Dave=-
+44 (0) 20 7608 7140

It's not broken... it's just functionally challenged



  Bruce Kamp
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent by: ADSM:  cc:
  Dist StorSubject:  SystemObjects
  Manager
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  .EDU


  12/19/2002 03:36
  PM
  Please respond to
  ADSM: Dist Stor
  Manager






I'm running TSM 5.1.1.6 on AIX 4.3.3 ML10
My questions are:
1.  Is systemobject problem fixed at this level?
2.  If not how do tell when they start getting out of hand? Here is the Q
OCC for one of my 2000 nodes.


Node Name   Type  FilespaceFSID  Storage Number of   Physical
Logical
  Name   Pool Name   Files  Space
Space
 Occupied
Occupied
 (MB)
(MB)
--    --  -  --  -  -
-
MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  DRMPOOL26,799
7,100.13   6,627.57
   01\c$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  WIN_DISK_-216
541.10 541.10
   01\c$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  WIN_TAPE_- 26,583
6,732.20   6,086.53
   01\c$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  DRMPOOL 6,008
362.52 362.52
   01\d$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  WIN_DISK_-  5
0.02   0.02
   01\d$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  WIN_TAPE_-  6,003
362.50 362.50
   01\d$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  DRMPOOL 9,095
45,130.72  45,130.72
   01\e$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  WIN_DISK_-161
795.31 795.31

TDP R/3

[Bill Zhang]

Can somebody explain me why use TDP for R/3 to backup
SAP DB2 database while you can backup DB2
offline/online directly to TSM?
What are the binifits?

Thanks a lot.

Bill

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TCP/IP connection failure

[Nelson, Doug]

Hi folks,
   We're seeing an intermittent error on prompted backups. When if fails
(complete error log below) it still reports completed for the job status
(Schedlog shows no files backed up (except NDS, see below)). Any ideas?
Thanks, Doug

Server 5.1.1 Win2k Sp3, Client NW 4.2 Sp9, TSM client 4.2.2.0, 56k frame
relay connection

*** Error Log ***
12/19/2002 20:13:37 ANS1809E Session is lost; initializing session reopen
procedure.
12/19/2002 20:13:38 ANS1809E Session is lost; initializing session reopen
procedure.
12/19/2002 20:13:53 ANS1810E TSM session has been reestablished.
12/19/2002 20:36:35 cuGetFSQryResp: Received rc: -50 from sessRecvVerb
12/19/2002 20:36:35 fsCheckAdd: received error from server query response
12/19/2002 20:36:35 sessSendVerb: Error sending Verb, rc: -50
12/19/2002 20:36:35 cuFSQry: Received rc: -50 from cuBeginTxn
12/19/2002 20:36:35 fsCheckAdd: received error from server query
12/19/2002 20:36:35 sessSendVerb: Error sending Verb, rc: -50
12/19/2002 20:36:35 cuFSQry: Received rc: -50 from cuBeginTxn
12/19/2002 20:36:35 fsCheckAdd: received error from server query
12/19/2002 20:36:35 ANS1228E Sending of object 'Server Specific Info/Server
Specific Info' failed
12/19/2002 20:36:35 ANS1017E Session rejected: TCP/IP connection failure

12/19/2002 20:36:35 ANS1228E Sending of object 'SYS:' failed
12/19/2002 20:36:35 ANS1017E Session rejected: TCP/IP connection failure

12/19/2002 20:36:35 ANS1228E Sending of object 'VOL1:' failed
12/19/2002 20:36:35 ANS1017E Session rejected: TCP/IP connection failure

*** Sched Log excerpt 

...Normal startup and start of NDS backup before this (ANS1809E errors are
before this) ...

12/19/2002 20:21:13 Normal File-- 2,097,152
.[Root].O=CHITTENDEN_CORP.OU=SEVT.OU=RANDOLPH.CN=T1095006 [Sent]
12/19/2002 20:21:14 Normal File-- 2,097,152
.[Root].O=CHITTENDEN_CORP.OU=SEVT.OU=RANDOLPH.CN=T1095007 [Sent]
12/19/2002 20:21:15 Normal File-- 2,097,152
.[Root].O=CHITTENDEN_CORP.OU=SEVT.OU=RANDOLPH.CN=T1095008 [Sent]
12/19/2002 20:23:13 Normal File-- 2,097,152
.[Root].O=CHITTENDEN_CORP.OU=SEVT.OU=RANDOLPH.CN=T1095009 [Sent]
12/19/2002 20:23:19 Directory--   2,097,152
.[Root].O=CHITTENDEN_CORP.OU=SEVT.OU=RUT_WEST.OU=RUTL_OPS [Sent]
12/19/2002 20:23:52 ANS1898I * Processed 1,000 files *
12/19/2002 20:36:35 Directory--   2,097,152
.[Root].O=CHITTENDEN_CORP.OU=SEVT.OU=RUT_WEST.OU=RUTL_OPS.OU=Trust [Sent]

12/19/2002 20:36:35 ANS1228E Sending of object 'Server Specific Info/Server
Specific Info' failed
12/19/2002 20:36:35 ANS1017E Session rejected: TCP/IP connection failure

12/19/2002 20:36:35 ANS1228E Sending of object 'SYS:' failed
12/19/2002 20:36:35 ANS1017E Session rejected: TCP/IP connection failure

12/19/2002 20:36:35 ANS1228E Sending of object 'VOL1:' failed
12/19/2002 20:36:35 ANS1017E Session rejected: TCP/IP connection failure

12/19/2002 20:36:35 Successful incremental backup of '.[Root]'

12/19/2002 20:36:45 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS BEGIN
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Session established with server ROSEWOOD: Windows
12/19/2002 20:36:46   Server Version 5, Release 1, Level 1.0
12/19/2002 20:36:46   Data compression forced on by the server
12/19/2002 20:36:46   Server date/time: 12/19/2002 20:36:25  Last access:
12/19/2002 20:36:11

12/19/2002 20:36:46 Total number of objects inspected:1,297
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Total number of objects backed up:   71
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Total number of objects updated:  0
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Total number of objects rebound:  0
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Total number of objects deleted:  0
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Total number of objects expired:  0
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Total number of objects failed:   3
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Total number of bytes transferred:   313.25 KB
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Data transfer time:0.22 sec
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Network data transfer rate:1,423.90 KB/sec
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Aggregate data transfer rate:  0.14 KB/sec
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Objects compressed by:   64%
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Elapsed processing time:   00:35:26
12/19/2002 20:36:46 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS END
12/19/2002 20:36:46 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT END BRANCH 12/19/2002 20:00:00
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Scheduled event 'BRANCH' completed successfully.
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Sending results for scheduled event 'BRANCH'.
12/19/2002 20:36:46 Session established with server ROSEWOOD: Windows
12/19/2002 20:36:46   Server Version 5, Release 1, Level 1.0
12/19/2002 20:36:46   Data compression forced on by the server
12/19/2002 20:36:46   Server date/time: 12/19/2002 20:36:26  Last access:
12/19/2002 20:36:26

12/19/2002 20:36:46 Results sent to server for scheduled event 'BRANCH'.

12/19/2002 20:36:46 ANS1483I Schedule log pruning started.
12/19/2002 20:36:47 Schedule Log Prune: 2804 lines processed.  213 lines
pruned.
12/19/2002 20:36:47 ANS1484I Schedule log pruning finished successfully.
12/19/2002 

Re: TDP R/3

[Nelson, Doug]

TDP can backup open database files. In a 24x7 environment, TDP is essential. If you 
have quiet periods where you can do a dynamic backup (and this is appropriate), or an 
export and backup, then you don't need it.

Douglas C. Nelson
Distributed Computing Consultant
Alltel Information Services
Chittenden Data Center
2 Burlington Square
Burlington, Vt. 05401
802-660-2336


-Original Message-
From: Bill Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TDP R/3


Can somebody explain me why use TDP for R/3 to backup
SAP DB2 database while you can backup DB2
offline/online directly to TSM?
What are the binifits?

Thanks a lot.

Bill

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Re: TDP R/3

[Bill Zhang]

Doug,

Can a online backup backup open database files?

Can parallel backup paths, multi-thread be one of the
benefits?

Thanks.

Bill


--- Nelson, Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 TDP can backup open database files. In a 24x7
 environment, TDP is essential. If you have quiet
 periods where you can do a dynamic backup (and this
 is appropriate), or an export and backup, then you
 don't need it.

 Douglas C. Nelson
 Distributed Computing Consultant
 Alltel Information Services
 Chittenden Data Center
 2 Burlington Square
 Burlington, Vt. 05401
 802-660-2336


 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: TDP R/3


 Can somebody explain me why use TDP for R/3 to
 backup
 SAP DB2 database while you can backup DB2
 offline/online directly to TSM?
 What are the binifits?

 Thanks a lot.

 Bill

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Re: SystemObjects

[Julian Armendariz]

I believe if the filespace is unicode you will have to add nametype=unicode to the end 
of the command.

Julian Armendariz
System Analyst - UNIX
H.B. Fuller
(651) 236-4043



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When I use the command show versions api-sql system objects from my TSM
server it returns no data!  Am I using the wrong syntax?


Thanks,
---
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Memorial Healthcare System
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-Original Message-
From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


Easy way to tell is to

show versions {node name} SYSTEM OBJECT

and look for excessive amounts of records that have **EXPIRE IMMEDIATELY**
(or some such, I don't recall the exact text) in them.


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Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: SystemObjects


Bruce,

I don't think so.

To tell, look at the occupancy object count for your sys-objects.  I would
think that = 20,000 for an average system is not unreasonable, but the
figure varies with the copygroup settings, whether active-directory is in
use, etc.

We have had counts  1.1 _million_ for some sys-objects!

Check with your support.  We are still getting e-fixes for various aspects
of system object expiration and also cleanup backupgroups.

Regards,

-=Dave=-
+44 (0) 20 7608 7140

It's not broken... it's just functionally challenged



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I'm running TSM 5.1.1.6 on AIX 4.3.3 ML10
My questions are:
1.  Is systemobject problem fixed at this level?
2.  If not how do tell when they start getting out of hand? Here is the Q
OCC for one of my 2000 nodes.


Node Name   Type  FilespaceFSID  Storage Number of   Physical
Logical
  Name   Pool Name   Files  Space
Space
 Occupied
Occupied
 (MB)
(MB)
--    --  -  --  -  -
-
MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  DRMPOOL26,799
7,100.13   6,627.57
   01\c$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  WIN_DISK_-216
541.10 541.10
   01\c$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  1  WIN_TAPE_- 26,583
6,732.20   6,086.53
   01\c$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  DRMPOOL 6,008
362.52 362.52
   01\d$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  WIN_DISK_-  5
0.02   0.02
   01\d$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  2  WIN_TAPE_-  6,003
362.50 362.50
   01\d$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  DRMPOOL 9,095
45,130.72  45,130.72
   01\e$

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  WIN_DISK_-161
795.31 795.31
   01\e$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  \\mrhexch \\mrhexch -  3  WIN_TAPE_-  8,934
44,335.53  44,335.53
   01\e$  POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  DRMPOOL10,584   1,385.07
1,385.07
   OBJECT

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  WIN_DISK_-  1,764 234.10
234.10
   OBJECT POOL

MRHEXCH01   Bkup  SYSTEM  4  WIN_TAPE_-  8,820   1,154.31
1,154.31
   OBJECT POOL


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Re: TDP R/3

[Nelson, Doug]

Sorry Bill, you've lost me there. I don't follow either of your questions. -Doug

-Original Message-
From: Bill Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TDP R/3


Doug,

Can a online backup backup open database files?

Can parallel backup paths, multi-thread be one of the
benefits?

Thanks.

Bill


--- Nelson, Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 TDP can backup open database files. In a 24x7
 environment, TDP is essential. If you have quiet
 periods where you can do a dynamic backup (and this
 is appropriate), or an export and backup, then you
 don't need it.

 Douglas C. Nelson
 Distributed Computing Consultant
 Alltel Information Services
 Chittenden Data Center
 2 Burlington Square
 Burlington, Vt. 05401
 802-660-2336


 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: TDP R/3


 Can somebody explain me why use TDP for R/3 to
 backup
 SAP DB2 database while you can backup DB2
 offline/online directly to TSM?
 What are the binifits?

 Thanks a lot.

 Bill

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Re: Reclamation not reclaiming carts

[Michael Raine]

When running reclamation have the reclaim pct for the STG at 60%.

Have several volumes meeting this requirement but TSM does not reclaim the data.
  It recognized the carts in the activity log but does not reclaim the space.

Anyone have any idea why?


Thanks


 Volume Name: E02887
 Storage Pool Name: NOTES012-ARCHIVE-ONSITE
 Device Class Name: EAGLE
   Estimated Capacity (MB): 20,728.9
  Pct Util: 1.0
 Volume Status: Full
Access: Read/Write
Pct. Reclaimable Space: 99.3
   Scratch Volume?: Yes
   In Error State?: No
  Number of Writable Sides: 1
   Number of Times Mounted: 6
 Write Pass Number: 1
 Approx. Date Last Written: 11/15/2002 19:08:08
Approx. Date Last Read: 12/10/2002 23:08:35
   Date Became Pending:
Number of Write Errors: 0
 Number of Read Errors: 0
   Volume Location:
Last Update by (administrator):
 Last Update Date/Time: 11/08/2002 19:01:21

synthetic fullbackup

[Ron Lochhead]

Hi Halvorsen:

I am trying to implement this same move nodedata idea,  but am coming up
with problem.  My environment is Win2k server running TSM server 5.1.5.2
and same on clients.  My goal is consolidate my tapepool data for each node
so each node has it's own tape.  We only have 25 nodes.  I figured out how
to move nodedata to our diskpool but now how do I put nodedata from
diskpool back on to one tapepool tape?

The error I got said that I couldn't move nodedata from diskpool back to
tapepool because of sequential access storage.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Ron Lochhead




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Hi Werner,
we might need some clearifying of your setup.
What is your server version?
Are you backing up to tape, or disk?

Generally I can say this:
If you are running TSM v. 5.x you have the possibility to use MOVE
NODEDATA,
which moves data for one node to another storagepool (from tape to disk),
and then start your restore from the diskpool. It may sound strange,
because
you move the data twice, but often, you have a delay between the time you
decide to restore, until you actually start the restore (f.ex. in a
disaster
recovery situation, where you have to get new hardware, install OS + TSM
client software, before you start the restore). In this interval, you can
start to move data from tape to disk, and the subsequent restore will be
alot faster.
The other possibility is to use collocation by filespace. Different
filespaces from the same server will be collocated on different tapes,
enabling you to simultaneously start a restore for each filespace. This
helps reducing restore times.
Third option is using backupsets, which can be created just for active
files. Then you will have all active files on one volume.
Others may also have an opinion on best approach to solve this. I have just
pointed out some of TSM's features.

Rgds.
Geirr Halvorsen
-Original Message-
From: Schwarz Werner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18. december 2002 14:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: synthetic fullbackup


We are looking for a solution for the following problem:
During a restore of a whole TSM-client we found that the needed ACTIVE
backup_versions were heavy scattered around our virtual tape-volumes. This
was the main reason for an unacceptable long restore-time. Disk as a
primary
STGPool is too expensive.
Now we are looking for methods to 'cluster together' all active
backup_versions per node without backing up the whole TSM-client every
night
(like VERITAS NetbackUp). Ideally the full_backup should be done in the
TSM-server (starting with an initial full_backup, then combining the
full_backup and the incrementals from next run to build the next synthetic
full_backup and so on). We already have activated COLLOCATE. Has anybody
good ideas?
thanks,
werner

BackupSet on CD?

[Coats, Jack]

I am sure this question has come across before, I just can't seem to find
the answer.

I would like to generate a set of CDs as a backupset for a client.

How do I go about this?

Current environment is TSM 4.2.3.1 on Win2K.

TIA ... Jack

Re: BackupSet on CD?

[Nelson, Doug]

We have a CD-Burner in our TSM server and we can do single cd backup sets
off of it. I haven't tried a multi-cd one.

Douglas C. Nelson
Distributed Computing Consultant
Alltel Information Services
Chittenden Data Center
2 Burlington Square
Burlington, Vt. 05401
802-660-2336

-Original Message-
From: Coats, Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BackupSet on CD?


I am sure this question has come across before, I just can't seem to find
the answer.

I would like to generate a set of CDs as a backupset for a client.

How do I go about this?

Current environment is TSM 4.2.3.1 on Win2K.

TIA ... Jack

Re: BackupSet on CD?

[Prather, Wanda]

I've done it on AIX.  TSM doesn't support burning the CD's directly.  As I
recall, you generate the backupset to a FILE device class, then use the CD
burner software to copy that to a CD.  So you need a LOT of free disk space
to make it work.



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Subject: Re: BackupSet on CD?


We have a CD-Burner in our TSM server and we can do single cd backup sets
off of it. I haven't tried a multi-cd one.

Douglas C. Nelson
Distributed Computing Consultant
Alltel Information Services
Chittenden Data Center
2 Burlington Square
Burlington, Vt. 05401
802-660-2336

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From: Coats, Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BackupSet on CD?


I am sure this question has come across before, I just can't seem to find
the answer.

I would like to generate a set of CDs as a backupset for a client.

How do I go about this?

Current environment is TSM 4.2.3.1 on Win2K.

TIA ... Jack

Re: synthetic fullbackup

[Mark Stapleton]

On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 12:16, Ron Lochhead wrote:
 I am trying to implement this same move nodedata idea,  but am coming up
 with problem.  My environment is Win2k server running TSM server 5.1.5.2
 and same on clients.  My goal is consolidate my tapepool data for each node
 so each node has it's own tape.  We only have 25 nodes.  I figured out how
 to move nodedata to our diskpool but now how do I put nodedata from
 diskpool back on to one tapepool tape?

 The error I got said that I couldn't move nodedata from diskpool back to
 tapepool because of sequential access storage.  Any ideas?

If you'll read the results of
help move nodedata
you'll notice that the FROMstgpool (the source) must be a
sequential-access pool.

--
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Re: Reclamation not reclaiming carts

[Wayne T. Smith]

You might try doing an AUDIT VOLUME on each.

Michael Raine wrote:

When running reclamation have the reclaim pct for the STG at 60%.

Have several volumes meeting this requirement but TSM does not reclaim the data.
  It recognized the carts in the activity log but does not reclaim the space.


Holiday cheers, wayne
--

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Re: Reclamation not reclaiming carts

[Michael Raine]

Thanks...

Ran audit vol and no errors were found.  The funny thing is that reclamation
realizes the carts have space to reclaim because it identifies them
in the activity log but will not move the data.

Currently I am moving the data manually but this process will take awhile as
there are over a hundred carts like this.









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You might try doing an AUDIT VOLUME on each.

Michael Raine wrote:
 When running reclamation have the reclaim pct for the STG at 60%.

 Have several volumes meeting this requirement but TSM does not reclaim the
data.
   It recognized the carts in the activity log but does not reclaim the space.

Holiday cheers, wayne
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Re: synthetic fullbackup

[Ford, Phillip]

Make the tape pool collocation enabled and do a migration on the disk pool
(update stg diskpool hi=0 low=0).  Also helps to have migration process set
to 1 for the disk pool.  I don't know if this is necessary or not.



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-Original Message-
From: Ron Lochhead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: synthetic fullbackup


Hi Halvorsen:

I am trying to implement this same move nodedata idea,  but am coming up
with problem.  My environment is Win2k server running TSM server 5.1.5.2 and
same on clients.  My goal is consolidate my tapepool data for each node so
each node has it's own tape.  We only have 25 nodes.  I figured out how to
move nodedata to our diskpool but now how do I put nodedata from diskpool
back on to one tapepool tape?

The error I got said that I couldn't move nodedata from diskpool back to
tapepool because of sequential access storage.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Ron Lochhead




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Hi Werner,
we might need some clearifying of your setup.
What is your server version?
Are you backing up to tape, or disk?

Generally I can say this:
If you are running TSM v. 5.x you have the possibility to use MOVE NODEDATA,
which moves data for one node to another storagepool (from tape to disk),
and then start your restore from the diskpool. It may sound strange, because
you move the data twice, but often, you have a delay between the time you
decide to restore, until you actually start the restore (f.ex. in a disaster
recovery situation, where you have to get new hardware, install OS + TSM
client software, before you start the restore). In this interval, you can
start to move data from tape to disk, and the subsequent restore will be
alot faster. The other possibility is to use collocation by filespace.
Different filespaces from the same server will be collocated on different
tapes, enabling you to simultaneously start a restore for each filespace.
This helps reducing restore times. Third option is using backupsets, which
can be created just for active files. Then you will have all active files on
one volume. Others may also have an opinion on best approach to solve this.
I have just pointed out some of TSM's features.

Rgds.
Geirr Halvorsen
-Original Message-
From: Schwarz Werner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18. december 2002 14:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: synthetic fullbackup


We are looking for a solution for the following problem:
During a restore of a whole TSM-client we found that the needed ACTIVE
backup_versions were heavy scattered around our virtual tape-volumes. This
was the main reason for an unacceptable long restore-time. Disk as a primary
STGPool is too expensive. Now we are looking for methods to 'cluster
together' all active backup_versions per node without backing up the whole
TSM-client every night (like VERITAS NetbackUp). Ideally the full_backup
should be done in the TSM-server (starting with an initial full_backup, then
combining the full_backup and the incrementals from next run to build the
next synthetic full_backup and so on). We already have activated COLLOCATE.
Has anybody good ideas? thanks, werner




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Re: Reclamation not reclaiming carts

[Miller, Ryan]

Are there errors in the activity log associated with why they won't reclaim?  or are 
they have not just reclaimed yet?  do you have a reclamation process running?  also, 
do you collocate, if so is it possible that this is the only tape associated with a 
node and can't reclaim?  lots of issues to look at here...

Ryan Miller
 
Principal Financial Group
 
Tivoli Certified Consultant
Tivoli Storage Manager v4.1


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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Reclamation not reclaiming carts


Thanks...

Ran audit vol and no errors were found.  The funny thing is that reclamation
realizes the carts have space to reclaim because it identifies them
in the activity log but will not move the data.

Currently I am moving the data manually but this process will take awhile as
there are over a hundred carts like this.









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You might try doing an AUDIT VOLUME on each.

Michael Raine wrote:
 When running reclamation have the reclaim pct for the STG at 60%.

 Have several volumes meeting this requirement but TSM does not reclaim the
data.
   It recognized the carts in the activity log but does not reclaim the space.

Holiday cheers, wayne
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monitor, intercept and retrieve electronic communications in the normal course
of business.

Re: MAXNUMMP question

[Tab Trepagnier]

I think it does though it doesn't seem to affect anything.

Our nodes are all set to MaxNumMP of 1.  Our FILE DIRMC pool is set for a
mount limit of 12.

When a node is backing up to the system, the DIRMC volume is mounted and
remounted repeatedly, but each mount occurs in less than a second, and the
only impact that I've seen is more volume mounted messages in the
ActLog.

I limited MaxNumMP because each of our tape libraries has four drives.
When backups occur during maintenance processes - mainly reclamation -
those processes can tie up as  many as three drives, so all incoming data
is funneled to one drive.

History...

When I was running direct-to-tape on our LTO library, the library would
round-robin tapes through the one available drive and each tape would
receive one batch of incoming data from one node.  The practical result
was that backups took forever and the library sort of beat itself to
death.  Limiting MaxNumMP was an attempt to reduce the round-robin'ing. It
didn't work.  Increasing that limit *might* have worked, but we didn't try
it.

Instead I implemented a small upstream disk pool with a 25 MB MaxSize.
That gives the nodes someplace to land data when their tape is not
available, and reduces the round-robin'ing and MediaWait time on the
system.  It also allows me to leave last night's data on disk, if
smaller than 25 MB, for immediate access during restores.  That's the
first time we've used that best practice since we installed ADSM 2 six
years ago.

Tab Trepagnier
TSM Administrator
Laitram Corporation







Richard Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:Re: MAXNUMMP question


 I have a question regarding the node parameter MAXNUMMP. Does this
 affect only tape mounts or does it affect sequential file mounts also?

A good question. I don't know the answer, but those people who run the
FILE-based DIRMC setup might know, as they're using this type of pool. Tab
and the others: have you had to increase this value?

Richard Foster
Norsk Hydro

Re: Select statements syntax: The Answer

[Seay, Paul]

Try this on for size.

select node_name, cast(platform_name as char(16)) as OS/Name  ,
cast(client_os_level as char(10)) as OS/Level, cast (client_version as
char(1)) || '.' || cast(client_release as char(1)) || '.' || cast
(client_level as char(1)) || '.' || trim(cast(client_sublevel as char(2)))
as Level from nodes order by 2,4,1

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180


-Original Message-
From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Select statements syntax


I need to create a select statement that concatenates numeric fields as text
-- I need to create a single text field from the four numeric fields in the
NODES table into a single text field.

Once I get the fields CAST as CHAR type, how do I concatenate them?

I tried SUBSTR but it pukes on too many arguments.

This works:

select substr(cast(client_version as char(1)),1,1) from nodes

This doesn't:

select substr(cast(client_version as char(1)),cast(client_release as
char(1)),1,1) from nodes

String concatenation is a basic function, I know it's there, I just can't
remember the function name.

Re: Many, almost empty volumes ??

[Seay, Paul]

The short answer is probably yes.  TSM does some checking of files that span
tapes in the reclamation criteria to prevent an endless chain of
reclamation.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180


-Original Message-
From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Many, almost empty volumes ??


Hi TSM'rs

I am sure someone has had this before..

TSM Server 4.2 (Windows 2000) connected to a SAN based 18 slot LTO 3583.

The total amount of storage is around 60GB which means there should never
really be more that two, or at worst three tapes in the offsite pool. I have
five. These are data tapes, not DBBackup tapes.

Even after doing reclamation of the offsite pool the three tapes in question
remain offsite and remain at 0.5, 2.1, 0.6 percent used.

Is this normal. I was under the impression that reclamation is supposed to
avoid this.

Would appreciate any thoughts on this

Rgds
John

Re: TDP R/3

[Bill Zhang]

Sorry for the confusions. What happened is
one of our clients use SAP, DB2 running on AIX.
They use TSM as their backup software and I configured
the DB2 to do online backup using TSM. They have been
performinging their backups(40 - 50 GB daily) that
way.

They called me yesterday and told me they were made to
purchase TDP for R/3 and they asked me how they can be
benefited by using it. All I know about TDP for R/3 is
from manual Tivoli Data Protectio for R/3
Installatio User  s Guide for DB2 UDB. So I need
somebody who has TDP for R/3 experience give me some
points.

Thanks a lot!

Bill

--- Nelson, Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry Bill, you've lost me there. I don't follow
 either of your questions. -Doug

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:48 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: TDP R/3


 Doug,

 Can a online backup backup open database files?

 Can parallel backup paths, multi-thread be one of
 the
 benefits?

 Thanks.

 Bill


 --- Nelson, Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  TDP can backup open database files. In a 24x7
  environment, TDP is essential. If you have quiet
  periods where you can do a dynamic backup (and
 this
  is appropriate), or an export and backup, then you
  don't need it.
 
  Douglas C. Nelson
  Distributed Computing Consultant
  Alltel Information Services
  Chittenden Data Center
  2 Burlington Square
  Burlington, Vt. 05401
  802-660-2336
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bill Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:01 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: TDP R/3
 
 
  Can somebody explain me why use TDP for R/3 to
  backup
  SAP DB2 database while you can backup DB2
  offline/online directly to TSM?
  What are the binifits?
 
  Thanks a lot.
 
  Bill
 
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