Re: TSM 5.3 web gui

2006-03-05 Thread Allen S. Rout
 On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:28:06 -0500, Richard Mochnaczewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 said:


 I had some problems with the setup of the Admin Console. I placed a
 call with IBM, [...]


The ranting about the ISC was legion in Oxford, and clearly a source
of frustration for the IBMers there; there were many questions or
I-want type statements which were answered with We're doing that in
the Admin Console.  It's clear that they've placed a lot of effort
and thought into the AC design.

I'm starting to think that we, TSM admins, are just too varied a bunch
to have our needs met within the constraints of one such system and
the ideology that must be imposed with it.  Maybe IBM can just ditch
the GUI idea entirely, and leave the market to the 3rd party tools.
Or maybe they can ditch the idea that the GUI is 'full featured', and
deploy something intended to coddle folks who are never going to make
the effort, and omit the hard bits.



I'm in sympathy with the desire to web-ify many administrative aspects
of many IBM tools under a unified umbrella.  But the One Ring to Rule
Them All attitude has well-documented failure modes, and nobody wants
to be Sauron at the end.

It gets worse when the One Ring is as (pardon me) shaky and
unmaintainable as Websphere.  We've had deep, deep _DEEP_ problems
with that product.  A low point was when a level 2 tech in all
seriousness told us he wasn't sure the product supported HTTP.

No, really. I can't make that up.  Our tech replied that maybe they
should change the product name to just Sphere.

I've been through the AIX install of the ISC and AC on a disposable
LPAR several times now; even with a fresh clean box and support on the
line, we've not been able to get a working console up, which I find
more amusing than irritating, any more.



- Allen S. Rout


Re: TSM 5.3 web gui

2006-03-05 Thread Don France
Hey Allen,

I have your phone (from Oxford);  still OWE you , big time;  let me know where 
to send you (at least) the donera that was on it, and if you want the phone 
back!  Contact me off the list (please), with your addr, eh!?!

The ISC-AC still sucks (at its latest 5.3.2.0 release, I had some difficulty 
with health-monitor, but fixed it -- the part that sets me off now is the 
maint. plan;  it forced and re-forced the parallel copy-pools when what I 
wanted was to merge two primaries into a single, offsite copy-pool --  sigh:).  

Maybe you're right;  TSM is too diverse in its installed environments and the 
admins that support it.  But, I gotta say, the old GUI was fine (for some 
tasks), just needed some minor improvements --- like quit collapsing the whole 
tree of policy constructs, so I can change more than one MC without 7 
mouse-clicks.  The IDEA is good, to get a single interface to multiple TSM 
servers, but it sure loses something in the translation to implementation... 
not to mention the Websphere issues you mention!

Best regards,
Don

Don France
email:  don_france at att_dot_net





-- Original message from Allen S. Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
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  On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:28:06 -0500, Richard Mochnaczewski 
 said: 
 
 
  I had some problems with the setup of the Admin Console. I placed a 
  call with IBM, [...] 
 
 
 The ranting about the ISC was legion in Oxford, and clearly a source 
 of frustration for the IBMers there; there were many questions or 
 I-want type statements which were answered with We're doing that in 
 the Admin Console. It's clear that they've placed a lot of effort 
 and thought into the AC design. 
 
 I'm starting to think that we, TSM admins, are just too varied a bunch 
 to have our needs met within the constraints of one such system and 
 the ideology that must be imposed with it. Maybe IBM can just ditch 
 the GUI idea entirely, and leave the market to the 3rd party tools. 
 Or maybe they can ditch the idea that the GUI is 'full featured', and 
 deploy something intended to coddle folks who are never going to make 
 the effort, and omit the hard bits. 
 
 
 
 I'm in sympathy with the desire to web-ify many administrative aspects 
 of many IBM tools under a unified umbrella. But the One Ring to Rule 
 Them All attitude has well-documented failure modes, and nobody wants 
 to be Sauron at the end. 
 
 It gets worse when the One Ring is as (pardon me) shaky and 
 unmaintainable as Websphere. We've had deep, deep _DEEP_ problems 
 with that product. A low point was when a level 2 tech in all 
 seriousness told us he wasn't sure the product supported HTTP. 
 
 No, really. I can't make that up. Our tech replied that maybe they 
 should change the product name to just Sphere. 
 
 I've been through the AIX install of the ISC and AC on a disposable 
 LPAR several times now; even with a fresh clean box and support on the 
 line, we've not been able to get a working console up, which I find 
 more amusing than irritating, any more. 
 
 
 
 - Allen S. Rout 


Antwort: [ADSM-L] Daylight savings and tsm

2006-03-05 Thread Dierk Harbort
Hello, Gary!

The easy way: No schedules in those times anyway, wether in spring or
autum.

Regards, Dierk




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How do you folks out there handle the fact that in the spring forward,
there is no hour between 2:00 and 3:00 a.m.?

Being in Indiana, we are now dealing with this for the first time in around
40 years.

Thanks for any suggestions.


Gary Lee
Senior System Programmer
Ball State University


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