Re: TSM 5.5 using LANFree backup really slow

2009-08-01 Thread Steven Harris

Flavio

Is the destination of your backup pool tape? Have you confirmed with 
VALIDATE LANFREE on the server
Are you seeing a proxied by message in the client log to indicate that 
the storage agent is in use?
Is the *network* path configured as 1Gb - I'm suspecting you have a LAN 
backup and that the lan path has issues.


HTH

Regards

Steve

Steven Harris.
TSM Admin, looking for work, Sydney Australia



Flavio Junior wrote:

Hi folks,

I'm here, again, asking for help :)
More I read, more doubts I have.

I'm now implementing a TSM For SAN setup, to performance comparison
with my currently LAN backup.

I'll describe my scenario below, any doubt's feel free to ask me:
- 2 Production nodes using RHEL 5.3 connected to SAN
- 1 IBM DS4700 storage with 14 FC disks (13 raid5 + 1 hot-spare)
- Each node have a emulex dual-port HBA
- 2 Brocade TotalStorage fiber switches, with coherent zonings
- Library is a IBM TS3100 LTO4 SAN, with only one drive

Ok, i'm using TSM with LAN backups for a week, the transfer rate comes
among 60~80GB per hour.
The tape has a nominal write speed of 120MB/s that says me 430GB/h,
ok.. this is a *nominal* speed, I was expecting something near
300GB/h, good enough for me.

For these tests I've configured TSM Server on node1 and TSM Client on
node2. Each node has 6 1Gbps NIC's, 4 to public network 2 for
cluster-heartbeat + backups.
With this setup I've got, as said above, 60~80GB/h.

So, I decide to setup TSM for SAN.. Download a lot of docs/books and
start reading/doing.
I end up with:

- Fabric zoning changes, isolating a HBA port on each dual-port cards for nodes
- Installed StorageAgent on node2
- Installed TSM Client on node2
- - Configured the client to connect on storageagent
- Redefine all my TSM Server setup
- - Make Library as shared=yes, configure storage agent as a server,
configure path, configure datawritepath=lanfree and so on...

Ok, time to backup.
And, for my surprise i got only ~500MB per minute.. I thought it very
strange.. I've no idea what is the problem, I've tried with
compression and without, DATAREADPATH=LAN and SAN, VirtualMountPoints
or Physical ...

Does anybody have an idea the reason of that bad transfer rate?? The
servers are Samba Servers, with all kind of file and all size

As I said before, I'm really new with TSM so is really possible that
I've misconfigured something :)

Anyway, thanks in advance, and any help will be appreciated.

--

Flávio do Carmo Júnior aka waKKu
Florianópolis/SC - Brazil



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Re: Thumbs up/down for a new install for TSM 6.1 on Windows?

2009-08-01 Thread km
On 31/07, Wanda Prather wrote:
 Looking for opinions...

 I'm about to install a TSM server for a new customer who has never had TSM
 before.
 Very standard TSM config -

- Plenty powerful Windows host
- 100 mostly windows clients, back up to diskpool, migrate to 3592 tape
drives, copy to 3592 tape and vault.
- 2 TB of disk for diskpool, DB, logs if I need it.
- No need for backupsets.


 I know there are still folks reporting problems with the TSM for Linux
 server, and conversion of existing 5.X DB's is non-trivial.

 But I haven't seen anything in the TSM flashes  open APARS to think I'm
 taking much of a risk installing TSM 6.1 + patch on Windows.
 And it will save them the grief of doing the upgrade a year from now.

 What does the ADSM-L world think?

 Thanks for any input
 W

My rule of thumb for going with new versions of (IBM) software is 6-12
months after release. Before summer I told customers to go with 5.5, now
after the summer I'm going to go with 6.1. I dont feel totally
comfortable with 6.1 yet but you gotta take the plunge sometime :)

Especially since the requirements for DB storage is so different for 6.1
and because of the awkward upgrade process I believe the arguments for 6.1
are pretty strong.

-km


Re: TSM 5.5 using LANFree backup really slow

2009-08-01 Thread Flavio Junior
Hi Steve, thanks for answering...

Yeah, the destination is tape, i see on StorageAgent console the
connection to server and opening tape, during the backup I see the
bytes increasing on Backup by LANFree:  (but, this value is ALWAYS
lower than the value of normal backup... i don't know if this is
normal).
VALIDATE LANFREE node policyset shows me that the node is capable to
LANFree backups.

During the backup (using webclient interface) I can see two speeds,
well.. A screenshot of backup report is at link:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9278/backupz.jpg

The screenshot is in portuguese but I think is easy to you guess what
is each value...
Time: 5:45 Hours
Size: 181 Gb
No compression

Rede == Network
Agregada == Aggregate, combination... (not sure how TSM show it)

Ok, this is what I have... If need more info just let me know.

Thanks again.

--

Flávio do Carmo Júnior aka waKKu
Florianópolis/SC - Brazil

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Steven Harrisst...@stevenharris.info wrote:
 Flavio

 Is the destination of your backup pool tape? Have you confirmed with
 VALIDATE LANFREE on the server
 Are you seeing a proxied by message in the client log to indicate that the
 storage agent is in use?
 Is the *network* path configured as 1Gb - I'm suspecting you have a LAN
 backup and that the lan path has issues.

 HTH

 Regards

 Steve

 Steven Harris.
 TSM Admin, looking for work, Sydney Australia



 Flavio Junior wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I'm here, again, asking for help :)
 More I read, more doubts I have.

 I'm now implementing a TSM For SAN setup, to performance comparison
 with my currently LAN backup.

 I'll describe my scenario below, any doubt's feel free to ask me:
 - 2 Production nodes using RHEL 5.3 connected to SAN
 - 1 IBM DS4700 storage with 14 FC disks (13 raid5 + 1 hot-spare)
 - Each node have a emulex dual-port HBA
 - 2 Brocade TotalStorage fiber switches, with coherent zonings
 - Library is a IBM TS3100 LTO4 SAN, with only one drive

 Ok, i'm using TSM with LAN backups for a week, the transfer rate comes
 among 60~80GB per hour.
 The tape has a nominal write speed of 120MB/s that says me 430GB/h,
 ok.. this is a *nominal* speed, I was expecting something near
 300GB/h, good enough for me.

 For these tests I've configured TSM Server on node1 and TSM Client on
 node2. Each node has 6 1Gbps NIC's, 4 to public network 2 for
 cluster-heartbeat + backups.
 With this setup I've got, as said above, 60~80GB/h.

 So, I decide to setup TSM for SAN.. Download a lot of docs/books and
 start reading/doing.
 I end up with:

 - Fabric zoning changes, isolating a HBA port on each dual-port cards for
 nodes
 - Installed StorageAgent on node2
 - Installed TSM Client on node2
 - - Configured the client to connect on storageagent
 - Redefine all my TSM Server setup
 - - Make Library as shared=yes, configure storage agent as a server,
 configure path, configure datawritepath=lanfree and so on...

 Ok, time to backup.
 And, for my surprise i got only ~500MB per minute.. I thought it very
 strange.. I've no idea what is the problem, I've tried with
 compression and without, DATAREADPATH=LAN and SAN, VirtualMountPoints
 or Physical ...

 Does anybody have an idea the reason of that bad transfer rate?? The
 servers are Samba Servers, with all kind of file and all size

 As I said before, I'm really new with TSM so is really possible that
 I've misconfigured something :)

 Anyway, thanks in advance, and any help will be appreciated.

 --

 Flávio do Carmo Júnior aka waKKu
 Florianópolis/SC - Brazil
 


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Database Cache Hit Ratio

2009-08-01 Thread Avy Wong
Hello,
  In one of my TSM report, I see it says my database cash hit Ratio too
high. What is the normal ratio? What do I have to do to bring it down or
ways to resolve this?
Thank you for your help.


Issue Condition Recommendation
 The database utilization is too high. 85.4  85 Consider a database space
trigger or increase the size of the database.



[-] Custom Summary

  Item Results
 Administrative Schedules Successful: 6
 Administrative Schedules Errors: 0
 Administrative Schedules Failed: 0
 Administrative Schedules Missed: 0

 Client Schedules Completed with No Errors: 55
 Client Schedules Completed with Skipped Files: 35
 Client Schedules Completed with Warnings: 0
 Client Schedules Completed with Errors: 0
 Client Schedules Failed: 0
 Client Schedules Missed: 0
 Scheduled Nodes with empty contact information: 87

 Total GB Backed Up: 1285.66
 Total GB Restored:
 Total GB Archived: 160.81
 Total GB Retrieved: 0.01

 Last Database Backup: 2009-08-01 00:46
 % Database Utilization: 85.4
 Database Cache Hit Ratio: 99.1
 % Maximum Recovery Log Utilization: 14.3

 Disk Pool Total MB: 2007040.0
 % Disk Pool Utilization: 16.1
 Disk volumes offline: 0

 Number of drives: 7

 Number of tape mounts: 144
 Total number of minutes tapes were mounted: 3855

 Total number of volumes: 333
 Number of scratch volumes: 57
 Number of unavailable volumes: 0
 Number of read-only volumes: 20
 Volume Reclamation warning: 126



Avy Wong
Business Continuity Administrator
Mohegan Sun
1 Mohegan Sun Blvd
Uncasville, CT 06382
(860)862-8164
(cell) (860)961-6976


Re: TSM 5.5 using LANFree backup really slow

2009-08-01 Thread David McClelland
What is the nature of the data that you're backing up here? Large  
files/objects or lots of smaller files/objects? The classic  
recommendation for SAN backups direct to tape is that it's best used  
only for larger objects (eg database backups, TDPs or disk image etc)  
to ensure optimal streaming to tape. Backing up a file server with  
millions of individual small files direct to tape won't always produce  
a great overall throughput figure.


/David Mc
London, UK

Sent from my iPhone

On 1 Aug 2009, at 15:37, Flavio Junior bil...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Steve, thanks for answering...

Yeah, the destination is tape, i see on StorageAgent console the
connection to server and opening tape, during the backup I see the
bytes increasing on Backup by LANFree:  (but, this value is ALWAYS
lower than the value of normal backup... i don't know if this is
normal).
VALIDATE LANFREE node policyset shows me that the node is capable to
LANFree backups.

During the backup (using webclient interface) I can see two speeds,
well.. A screenshot of backup report is at link:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9278/backupz.jpg

The screenshot is in portuguese but I think is easy to you guess what
is each value...
Time: 5:45 Hours
Size: 181 Gb
No compression

Rede == Network
Agregada == Aggregate, combination... (not sure how TSM show it)

Ok, this is what I have... If need more info just let me know.

Thanks again.

--

Flávio do Carmo Júnior aka waKKu
Florianópolis/SC - Brazil

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Steven  
Harrisst...@stevenharris.info wrote:

Flavio

Is the destination of your backup pool tape? Have you confirmed with
VALIDATE LANFREE on the server
Are you seeing a proxied by message in the client log to indicate  
that the

storage agent is in use?
Is the *network* path configured as 1Gb - I'm suspecting you have a  
LAN

backup and that the lan path has issues.

HTH

Regards

Steve

Steven Harris.
TSM Admin, looking for work, Sydney Australia



Flavio Junior wrote:


Hi folks,

I'm here, again, asking for help :)
More I read, more doubts I have.

I'm now implementing a TSM For SAN setup, to performance comparison
with my currently LAN backup.

I'll describe my scenario below, any doubt's feel free to ask me:
- 2 Production nodes using RHEL 5.3 connected to SAN
- 1 IBM DS4700 storage with 14 FC disks (13 raid5 + 1 hot-spare)
- Each node have a emulex dual-port HBA
- 2 Brocade TotalStorage fiber switches, with coherent zonings
- Library is a IBM TS3100 LTO4 SAN, with only one drive

Ok, i'm using TSM with LAN backups for a week, the transfer rate  
comes

among 60~80GB per hour.
The tape has a nominal write speed of 120MB/s that says me 430GB/h,
ok.. this is a *nominal* speed, I was expecting something near
300GB/h, good enough for me.

For these tests I've configured TSM Server on node1 and TSM Client  
on

node2. Each node has 6 1Gbps NIC's, 4 to public network 2 for
cluster-heartbeat + backups.
With this setup I've got, as said above, 60~80GB/h.

So, I decide to setup TSM for SAN.. Download a lot of docs/books and
start reading/doing.
I end up with:

- Fabric zoning changes, isolating a HBA port on each dual-port  
cards for

nodes
- Installed StorageAgent on node2
- Installed TSM Client on node2
- - Configured the client to connect on storageagent
- Redefine all my TSM Server setup
- - Make Library as shared=yes, configure storage agent as a server,
configure path, configure datawritepath=lanfree and so on...

Ok, time to backup.
And, for my surprise i got only ~500MB per minute.. I thought it  
very

strange.. I've no idea what is the problem, I've tried with
compression and without, DATAREADPATH=LAN and SAN,  
VirtualMountPoints

or Physical ...

Does anybody have an idea the reason of that bad transfer rate?? The
servers are Samba Servers, with all kind of file and all size

As I said before, I'm really new with TSM so is really possible that
I've misconfigured something :)

Anyway, thanks in advance, and any help will be appreciated.

--

Flávio do Carmo Júnior aka waKKu
Florianópolis/SC - Brazil
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Re: Database Cache Hit Ratio

2009-08-01 Thread Paul Zarnowski

The Recommendation you cite is for database utilization, not for cache
hit ratio.  Your cache hit ratio looks healthy, at 99.1%.  I believe that
the warning for database utilization is a warning that your database is
getting full, and that you need to do something before it fills up
completely.

..Paul

At 10:58 AM 8/1/2009, Avy Wong wrote:

Hello,
  In one of my TSM report, I see it says my database cash hit Ratio too
high. What is the normal ratio? What do I have to do to bring it down or
ways to resolve this?
Thank you for your help.


Issue Condition Recommendation
 The database utilization is too high. 85.4  85 Consider a database space
trigger or increase the size of the database.



[-] Custom Summary

  Item Results
 Administrative Schedules Successful: 6
 Administrative Schedules Errors: 0
 Administrative Schedules Failed: 0
 Administrative Schedules Missed: 0

 Client Schedules Completed with No Errors: 55
 Client Schedules Completed with Skipped Files: 35
 Client Schedules Completed with Warnings: 0
 Client Schedules Completed with Errors: 0
 Client Schedules Failed: 0
 Client Schedules Missed: 0
 Scheduled Nodes with empty contact information: 87

 Total GB Backed Up: 1285.66
 Total GB Restored:
 Total GB Archived: 160.81
 Total GB Retrieved: 0.01

 Last Database Backup: 2009-08-01 00:46
 % Database Utilization: 85.4
 Database Cache Hit Ratio: 99.1
 % Maximum Recovery Log Utilization: 14.3

 Disk Pool Total MB: 2007040.0
 % Disk Pool Utilization: 16.1
 Disk volumes offline: 0

 Number of drives: 7

 Number of tape mounts: 144
 Total number of minutes tapes were mounted: 3855

 Total number of volumes: 333
 Number of scratch volumes: 57
 Number of unavailable volumes: 0
 Number of read-only volumes: 20
 Volume Reclamation warning: 126



Avy Wong
Business Continuity Administrator
Mohegan Sun
1 Mohegan Sun Blvd
Uncasville, CT 06382
(860)862-8164
(cell) (860)961-6976



--
Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757
Manager, Storage Services Fx: 607-255-8521
719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: p...@cornell.edu


Re: Database Cache Hit Ratio

2009-08-01 Thread Avy Wong
Any recommendations to resolve this ?

Avy Wong
Business Continuity Administrator
Mohegan Sun
1 Mohegan Sun Blvd
Uncasville, CT 06382
(860)862-8164
(cell) (860)961-6976




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The Recommendation you cite is for database utilization, not for cache
hit ratio.  Your cache hit ratio looks healthy, at 99.1%.  I believe that
the warning for database utilization is a warning that your database is
getting full, and that you need to do something before it fills up
completely.

..Paul

At 10:58 AM 8/1/2009, Avy Wong wrote:
Hello,
   In one of my TSM report, I see it says my database cash hit Ratio
too
high. What is the normal ratio? What do I have to do to bring it down or
ways to resolve this?
Thank you for your help.


Issue Condition Recommendation
  The database utilization is too high. 85.4  85 Consider a database
space
trigger or increase the size of the database.



[-] Custom Summary

   Item Results
  Administrative Schedules Successful: 6
  Administrative Schedules Errors: 0
  Administrative Schedules Failed: 0
  Administrative Schedules Missed: 0

  Client Schedules Completed with No Errors: 55
  Client Schedules Completed with Skipped Files: 35
  Client Schedules Completed with Warnings: 0
  Client Schedules Completed with Errors: 0
  Client Schedules Failed: 0
  Client Schedules Missed: 0
  Scheduled Nodes with empty contact information: 87

  Total GB Backed Up: 1285.66
  Total GB Restored:
  Total GB Archived: 160.81
  Total GB Retrieved: 0.01

  Last Database Backup: 2009-08-01 00:46
  % Database Utilization: 85.4
  Database Cache Hit Ratio: 99.1
  % Maximum Recovery Log Utilization: 14.3

  Disk Pool Total MB: 2007040.0
  % Disk Pool Utilization: 16.1
  Disk volumes offline: 0

  Number of drives: 7

  Number of tape mounts: 144
  Total number of minutes tapes were mounted: 3855

  Total number of volumes: 333
  Number of scratch volumes: 57
  Number of unavailable volumes: 0
  Number of read-only volumes: 20
  Volume Reclamation warning: 126



Avy Wong
Business Continuity Administrator
Mohegan Sun
1 Mohegan Sun Blvd
Uncasville, CT 06382
(860)862-8164
(cell) (860)961-6976


--
Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757
Manager, Storage Services Fx: 607-255-8521
719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: p...@cornell.edu


Re: Database Cache Hit Ratio

2009-08-01 Thread Paul Zarnowski

Increase the capacity of the database.

At 11:13 AM 8/1/2009, Avy Wong wrote:

Any recommendations to resolve this ?

Avy Wong
Business Continuity Administrator
Mohegan Sun
1 Mohegan Sun Blvd
Uncasville, CT 06382
(860)862-8164
(cell) (860)961-6976




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 p...@cornell.edu
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 Please respond to
 ADSM: Dist Stor
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The Recommendation you cite is for database utilization, not for cache
hit ratio.  Your cache hit ratio looks healthy, at 99.1%.  I believe that
the warning for database utilization is a warning that your database is
getting full, and that you need to do something before it fills up
completely.

..Paul

At 10:58 AM 8/1/2009, Avy Wong wrote:
Hello,
   In one of my TSM report, I see it says my database cash hit Ratio
too
high. What is the normal ratio? What do I have to do to bring it down or
ways to resolve this?
Thank you for your help.


Issue Condition Recommendation
  The database utilization is too high. 85.4  85 Consider a database
space
trigger or increase the size of the database.



[-] Custom Summary

   Item Results
  Administrative Schedules Successful: 6
  Administrative Schedules Errors: 0
  Administrative Schedules Failed: 0
  Administrative Schedules Missed: 0

  Client Schedules Completed with No Errors: 55
  Client Schedules Completed with Skipped Files: 35
  Client Schedules Completed with Warnings: 0
  Client Schedules Completed with Errors: 0
  Client Schedules Failed: 0
  Client Schedules Missed: 0
  Scheduled Nodes with empty contact information: 87

  Total GB Backed Up: 1285.66
  Total GB Restored:
  Total GB Archived: 160.81
  Total GB Retrieved: 0.01

  Last Database Backup: 2009-08-01 00:46
  % Database Utilization: 85.4
  Database Cache Hit Ratio: 99.1
  % Maximum Recovery Log Utilization: 14.3

  Disk Pool Total MB: 2007040.0
  % Disk Pool Utilization: 16.1
  Disk volumes offline: 0

  Number of drives: 7

  Number of tape mounts: 144
  Total number of minutes tapes were mounted: 3855

  Total number of volumes: 333
  Number of scratch volumes: 57
  Number of unavailable volumes: 0
  Number of read-only volumes: 20
  Volume Reclamation warning: 126



Avy Wong
Business Continuity Administrator
Mohegan Sun
1 Mohegan Sun Blvd
Uncasville, CT 06382
(860)862-8164
(cell) (860)961-6976


--
Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757
Manager, Storage Services Fx: 607-255-8521
719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: p...@cornell.edu



--
Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757
Manager, Storage Services Fx: 607-255-8521
719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: p...@cornell.edu


Re: Database Cache Hit Ratio

2009-08-01 Thread Richard Sims

On Aug 1, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Avy Wong wrote:


Any recommendations to resolve this ?


In ADSM QuickFacts I provide a list of known contributors to database
utilization.
Do obvious things such as assure that expirations are running to
completion, that obsolete filespaces are not hanging around, etc.
Rigorous ongoing administration prevents most problems.

  Richard Sims


Re: TSM 5.5 using LANFree backup really slow

2009-08-01 Thread Flavio Junior
Hi David,

Well FileServer is exact what i'm backup ;/
A lot of files with sizes between 100k and 20Mb.

So, there is nothing that can be done to improve this, at least for 100GB/h?
Just to point my head toward right direction.. LANFree backups or LAN backups.

Thanks,

--

Flávio do Carmo Júnior aka waKKu
Florianópolis/SC - Brazil

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM, David
McClellanddavid.mcclell...@networkc.co.uk wrote:
 What is the nature of the data that you're backing up here? Large
 files/objects or lots of smaller files/objects? The classic recommendation
 for SAN backups direct to tape is that it's best used only for larger
 objects (eg database backups, TDPs or disk image etc) to ensure optimal
 streaming to tape. Backing up a file server with millions of individual
 small files direct to tape won't always produce a great overall throughput
 figure.

 /David Mc
 London, UK

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 1 Aug 2009, at 15:37, Flavio Junior bil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Steve, thanks for answering...

 Yeah, the destination is tape, i see on StorageAgent console the
 connection to server and opening tape, during the backup I see the
 bytes increasing on Backup by LANFree:  (but, this value is ALWAYS
 lower than the value of normal backup... i don't know if this is
 normal).
 VALIDATE LANFREE node policyset shows me that the node is capable to
 LANFree backups.

 During the backup (using webclient interface) I can see two speeds,
 well.. A screenshot of backup report is at link:
 http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9278/backupz.jpg

 The screenshot is in portuguese but I think is easy to you guess what
 is each value...
 Time: 5:45 Hours
 Size: 181 Gb
 No compression

 Rede == Network
 Agregada == Aggregate, combination... (not sure how TSM show it)

 Ok, this is what I have... If need more info just let me know.

 Thanks again.

 --

 Flávio do Carmo Júnior aka waKKu
 Florianópolis/SC - Brazil

 On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Steven Harrisst...@stevenharris.info
 wrote:

 Flavio

 Is the destination of your backup pool tape? Have you confirmed with
 VALIDATE LANFREE on the server
 Are you seeing a proxied by message in the client log to indicate that
 the
 storage agent is in use?
 Is the *network* path configured as 1Gb - I'm suspecting you have a LAN
 backup and that the lan path has issues.

 HTH

 Regards

 Steve

 Steven Harris.
 TSM Admin, looking for work, Sydney Australia



 Flavio Junior wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I'm here, again, asking for help :)
 More I read, more doubts I have.

 I'm now implementing a TSM For SAN setup, to performance comparison
 with my currently LAN backup.

 I'll describe my scenario below, any doubt's feel free to ask me:
 - 2 Production nodes using RHEL 5.3 connected to SAN
 - 1 IBM DS4700 storage with 14 FC disks (13 raid5 + 1 hot-spare)
 - Each node have a emulex dual-port HBA
 - 2 Brocade TotalStorage fiber switches, with coherent zonings
 - Library is a IBM TS3100 LTO4 SAN, with only one drive

 Ok, i'm using TSM with LAN backups for a week, the transfer rate comes
 among 60~80GB per hour.
 The tape has a nominal write speed of 120MB/s that says me 430GB/h,
 ok.. this is a *nominal* speed, I was expecting something near
 300GB/h, good enough for me.

 For these tests I've configured TSM Server on node1 and TSM Client on
 node2. Each node has 6 1Gbps NIC's, 4 to public network 2 for
 cluster-heartbeat + backups.
 With this setup I've got, as said above, 60~80GB/h.

 So, I decide to setup TSM for SAN.. Download a lot of docs/books and
 start reading/doing.
 I end up with:

 - Fabric zoning changes, isolating a HBA port on each dual-port cards
 for
 nodes
 - Installed StorageAgent on node2
 - Installed TSM Client on node2
 - - Configured the client to connect on storageagent
 - Redefine all my TSM Server setup
 - - Make Library as shared=yes, configure storage agent as a server,
 configure path, configure datawritepath=lanfree and so on...

 Ok, time to backup.
 And, for my surprise i got only ~500MB per minute.. I thought it very
 strange.. I've no idea what is the problem, I've tried with
 compression and without, DATAREADPATH=LAN and SAN, VirtualMountPoints
 or Physical ...

 Does anybody have an idea the reason of that bad transfer rate?? The
 servers are Samba Servers, with all kind of file and all size

 As I said before, I'm really new with TSM so is really possible that
 I've misconfigured something :)

 Anyway, thanks in advance, and any help will be appreciated.

 --

 Flávio do Carmo Júnior aka waKKu
 Florianópolis/SC - Brazil
 


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Re: TSM 5.5 using LANFree backup really slow

2009-08-01 Thread Steven Langdale
LAN Free will be poor with this kind of data.

What is your actual backup  restore requirement?  What's your backup 
window, how much data and how much changed data per day.

Steven

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Hi David,

Well FileServer is exact what i'm backup ;/
A lot of files with sizes between 100k and 20Mb.

So, there is nothing that can be done to improve this, at least for 
100GB/h?
Just to point my head toward right direction.. LANFree backups or LAN 
backups.

Thanks,

--

Flávio do Carmo Júnior aka waKKu
Florianópolis/SC - Brazil

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM, David
McClellanddavid.mcclell...@networkc.co.uk wrote:
 What is the nature of the data that you're backing up here? Large
 files/objects or lots of smaller files/objects? The classic 
recommendation
 for SAN backups direct to tape is that it's best used only for larger
 objects (eg database backups, TDPs or disk image etc) to ensure optimal
 streaming to tape. Backing up a file server with millions of individual
 small files direct to tape won't always produce a great overall 
throughput
 figure.

 /David Mc
 London, UK

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 On 1 Aug 2009, at 15:37, Flavio Junior bil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Steve, thanks for answering...

 Yeah, the destination is tape, i see on StorageAgent console the
 connection to server and opening tape, during the backup I see the
 bytes increasing on Backup by LANFree:  (but, this value is ALWAYS
 lower than the value of normal backup... i don't know if this is
 normal).
 VALIDATE LANFREE node policyset shows me that the node is capable to
 LANFree backups.

 During the backup (using webclient interface) I can see two speeds,
 well.. A screenshot of backup report is at link:
 http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9278/backupz.jpg

 The screenshot is in portuguese but I think is easy to you guess what
 is each value...
 Time: 5:45 Hours
 Size: 181 Gb
 No compression

 Rede == Network
 Agregada == Aggregate, combination... (not sure how TSM show it)

 Ok, this is what I have... If need more info just let me know.

 Thanks again.

 --

 Flávio do Carmo Júnior aka waKKu
 Florianópolis/SC - Brazil

 On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Steven Harrisst...@stevenharris.info
 wrote:

 Flavio

 Is the destination of your backup pool tape? Have you confirmed with
 VALIDATE LANFREE on the server
 Are you seeing a proxied by message in the client log to indicate 
that
 the
 storage agent is in use?
 Is the *network* path configured as 1Gb - I'm suspecting you have a 
LAN
 backup and that the lan path has issues.

 HTH

 Regards

 Steve

 Steven Harris.
 TSM Admin, looking for work, Sydney Australia



 Flavio Junior wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I'm here, again, asking for help :)
 More I read, more doubts I have.

 I'm now implementing a TSM For SAN setup, to performance comparison
 with my currently LAN backup.

 I'll describe my scenario below, any doubt's feel free to ask me:
 - 2 Production nodes using RHEL 5.3 connected to SAN
 - 1 IBM DS4700 storage with 14 FC disks (13 raid5 + 1 hot-spare)
 - Each node have a emulex dual-port HBA
 - 2 Brocade TotalStorage fiber switches, with coherent zonings
 - Library is a IBM TS3100 LTO4 SAN, with only one drive

 Ok, i'm using TSM with LAN backups for a week, the transfer rate 
comes
 among 60~80GB per hour.
 The tape has a nominal write speed of 120MB/s that says me 430GB/h,
 ok.. this is a *nominal* speed, I was expecting something near
 300GB/h, good enough for me.

 For these tests I've configured TSM Server on node1 and TSM Client on
 node2. Each node has 6 1Gbps NIC's, 4 to public network 2 for
 cluster-heartbeat + backups.
 With this setup I've got, as said above, 60~80GB/h.

 So, I decide to setup TSM for SAN.. Download a lot of docs/books and
 start reading/doing.
 I end up with:

 - Fabric zoning changes, isolating a HBA port on each dual-port cards
 for
 nodes
 - Installed StorageAgent on node2
 - Installed TSM Client on node2
 - - Configured the client to connect on storageagent
 - Redefine all my TSM Server setup
 - - Make Library as shared=yes, configure storage agent as a server,
 configure path, configure datawritepath=lanfree and so on...

 Ok, time to backup.
 And, for my surprise i got only ~500MB per minute.. I thought it very
 strange.. I've no idea what is the problem, I've tried with
 compression and without, DATAREADPATH=LAN and SAN, VirtualMountPoints
 or Physical ...

 Does anybody have an idea the reason of that bad transfer rate?? The
 

Watch-for: TS3310 firmware upgrade when used with Qlogic HBAs on x86

2009-08-01 Thread Joerg Pohlmann
I just had two installations with upgrades of TS3310 firmware to level 570
(the most current). They had QLE2460/2 and QLA2460/2 HBAs. One was TSM for
Windows 5.5.1, the other TSM for Linux 6.1 on x86. In both cases the
installations were getting IO errors and could not get the library and/or
drives to work (ANR8311E errno=5 or just IO error accessing...).  You
will find that QLE/A 2460/2 cards are not supported with firmware 570 if
you use the HBA search tool on the IBM support site:

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/support/storage/config/hba/index.wss

If you downlevel the TS3310 library firmware to 520 and the corresponding
drive firmware for LTOx, the library/drives will work fine. You will need
to reboot the server after the firmware change and possibly delete the
library and redefine the library plus check in all scratches (search=yes)
in the library followed by the check in of the private tapes (search=yes).

Joerg Pohlmann
250-245-9863