TSM Disaster Recovery with VTL

2009-11-11 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi,
A VTL in primary site copies backup data to remote site asynchronously. If
some backups expire in TSM, what happens to the copy in remote site? Will it
be expired or retained?

Thanks


Re: TSM Internal Server Error

2009-11-11 Thread Adrian Compton
Thanks Richard. Tried all that and no joy.
What we did discover was the cause of this notoriously misleading error,
was that the paths defined on he library manager for this library client
were OFFLINE. Once we put them online and retried the DB Restore, it
worked like a charm.



Regards

Adrian Compton
Group IT Infrastructure
Aspen Pharmacare Port Elizabeth
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Fax: +2741 453 7452
Cell: +27828617745
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From: Richard Sims [mailto:r...@bu.edu] 
Sent: 11 November 2009 07:03 AM
To: Adrian Compton
Subject: Re: TSM Internal Server Error

The messages fail to tell the customer what the problem is, but my
instincts suggest failure to access the tape library and drives.  Assure
good device status in AIX (check the AIX Error Log for any indications),
and assure appropriate device driver software installed.  Perform some
tape access commands (tapeutil or the like) in the OS environment to
test usability.  Also assure that the HL and LL addresses are
appropriate to what you are working with on that DR config, and that
network connectivity is present.

Richard

On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:42 PM, Adrian Compton wrote:

 Hi
 
 I am getting the error below when restoring a DB during a Dr exercise.
 Same version of TSM 5.5.2 , same Library 3310LIB, same OS - AIX 5.3
ML4
 
 I have set up library sharing and we have done this many times before
with no problems.
 All of a sudden we get stuck on this error:
 
 # dsmserv restore db devcl=lto3devcl vol=PLZ200L3 commit=yes
 ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 11:21:10 on Nov 26 2008.
 
 Tivoli Storage Manager for AIX-RS/6000
 Version 5, Release 5, Level 2.0
 
 Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
 
 (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1990, 2007.
 All rights reserved.
 U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or
disclosure
 restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.
 
 ANR0900I Processing options file
/usr/tivoli/tsm/server/bin/dsmserv.opt.
 ANR7811I Using instance directory /usr/tivoli/tsm/server/bin.
 ANR4726I The ICC support module has been loaded.
 ANR8200I TCP/IP Version 4 driver ready for connection with clients on
port
 ANR8200I 1500.
 ANR8225I TCP/IP Version 4 administrative driver ready for connection
with
 ANR8225I clients on port 1505.
 ANR0200I Recovery log assigned capacity is 10048 megabytes.
 ANR0201I Database assigned capacity is 35000 megabytes.
 ANR0408I Session 1 started for server TSM-JNB (AIX-RS/6000) (Tcp/Ip)
for
 ANR0408I library sharing.
 ANR8920I Initialization and recovery has ended for shared library
3310LIB.
 ANR0409I Session 1 ended for server TSM-JNB (AIX-RS/6000).
 ANR4621I Database backup device class LTO3DEVCL.
 ANR4622I   Volume 1: PLZ200L3.
 ANR4630I Starting point-in-time database restore (commit).
 ANR0300I Recovery log format started; assigned capacity 10048
megabytes.
 ANR0408I Session 2 started for server TSM-JNB (AIX-RS/6000) (Tcp/Ip)
for
 ANR0408I library sharing.
 ANR0409I Session 2 ended for server TSM-JNB (AIX-RS/6000).
 ANR2032E RESTORE DB: Command failed - internal server error detected.
 ANRD Thread1 issued message 2032 from:
 ANRD Thread1  0x000100013f0c outMsgf
 ANRD Thread1  0x000100878e50 AdmRestoreDb
 ANRD Thread1  0x0001001accac admRestoreDatabase
 ANRD Thread1  0x00016200 RestoreDb
 ANRD Thread1  0x00012c44 main
 
 My devconf.out file is as below and is specified in dsmserv.opt:
 
 devconf.out 7 lines, 580 characters
 /* Device Configuration */
 DEFINE DEVCLASS LTO3DEVCL DEVTYPE=LTO FORMAT=DRIVE MOUNTLIMIT=DRIVES
MOUNTWAIT=60 MOUNTRETENTION=60 PREFIX=ADS
 M LIBRARY=3310LIB WORM=NO DRIVEENCRYPTION=ALLOW
 DEFINE SERVER TSM-JNB COMMMETHOD=TCPIP HLADDRESS=10.0.0.7
LLADDRESS=1505  SERVERPASSWORD=21a20400fe6abd9d3556d
 a0df1b947cbd7
 DEFINE SERVER TSM-JNB-DR COMMMETHOD=TCPIP HLADDRESS=10.0.0.3
LLADDRESS=1500  SERVERPASSWORD=2145ac040358236c6e
 ae57cf603aba8884
 SET SERVERNAME TSM-JNB-DR
 SET SERVERPASSWORD 2145ac040358236c6eae57cf603aba8884
 DEFINE LIBRARY 3310LIB LIBTYPE=SHARED PRIMARYLIBMANAGER=TSM-JNB
 
 Any ideas anyone.
 Thanks in advance
 
 Regards
 
 Adrian Compton 
 Group IT Infrastructure
 Pharmacare Limited trading as Aspen Pharmacare
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 6014
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Using Copy services vs. VTL !

2009-11-11 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi,
Which one do you prefer:
1- having a copy of data off-site by disk subsystem copy services:
2- implementing D/R with VTL-to-VTL communication

Number 1:
-needs more disk capacity
-copy services license price
-more bandwidth is needed between sites even in asynchronous mode
-more difficult LAN-free scenario if there are not many physical tape
drives. So, something like SANergy is needed

Number 2:
- VTL price in both sites
- less bandwith is needed (it is backup data, not the changing data itself.
Furthermore, it is de-duped)
- virtual tape drives make LAN-free easier to implement and operate
...

Appreciate any comments,
Mehdi


different cartridge sizes in one library

2009-11-11 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi,
What happens if I mix different generations of LTO cartridges in a tape
library? Does it matter from TSM's point of view? Let say a library with
LTO4 drives but LTO4 and LTO3 cartridges in a mixture.

Thanks


Re: different cartridge sizes in one library

2009-11-11 Thread David McClelland
There's a link for that:

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/topic/com.ibm.itsmaix
n.doc/anragd55108.htm#mixdevtype

In fact, there are a few links - another:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246502.pdf (section 5.11 - Mixed
Media Libraries).

Briefly, yes, you can do it depending upon library type, media type and
media generation backward and forward compatibility.

/DMc

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Subject: [ADSM-L] different cartridge sizes in one library

Hi,
What happens if I mix different generations of LTO cartridges in a tape
library? Does it matter from TSM's point of view? Let say a library with
LTO4 drives but LTO4 and LTO3 cartridges in a mixture.

Thanks

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Re: TSM Disaster Recovery with VTL

2009-11-11 Thread Steven Langdale
Hello

I'm assuming you are using the VTL's replication process to do this?  If 
so, I'd assume it would be expired (though that is TSM terminology rather 
than VTL terminology). 

Probably best to ask your VTL vendor.

Steven 

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Hi,
A VTL in primary site copies backup data to remote site asynchronously. If
some backups expire in TSM, what happens to the copy in remote site? Will 
it
be expired or retained?

Thanks


Re: TSM Disaster Recovery with VTL

2009-11-11 Thread Mehdi Salehi
No, we haven't bought VTL, yet. Actually we are analyzing different aspects
of the scenario.
What I mean by expire is the transition from
active-to-inactive-to-expiration.


Re: TSM Disaster Recovery with VTL

2009-11-11 Thread Hart, Charles A
I'm pretty sure that once you make a VTL to VTL replication TSM wont know about 
the copy you created because it wasn't copied by TSM (i.e. not in the TSM DB).  
The only way to access is if you are replicating the TSM DB and Logs to the 
offsite as well so TSM will be aware of those VTL vols. 

We thought of doing that but elected to put use the offsite VTL as an Active 
Offsite Copy Pool so TSM is always aware, we replicate DB and Logs, so bringing 
up on instance on the other side and updating Primary to Destroyed ... And we 
are ready to go!



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Hello

I'm assuming you are using the VTL's replication process to do this?  If so, 
I'd assume it would be expired (though that is TSM terminology rather than VTL 
terminology). 

Probably best to ask your VTL vendor.

Steven 

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Thanks

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logpinned

2009-11-11 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.
For the past 2 days something has been screwing up backups by filling
the log and this morning I remembered the show logpinned command and
found the server that is causing it. I've cancelled the session but as
far as I know am at the mercy of TSM to kill it at some point. I
contacted the administrator and they shut down the services but the
sessions still seem to hang out there.

 

 

 

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Re: logpinned

2009-11-11 Thread Shawn Drew
From what I understand, when you cancel the session, TSM rolls back the
transaction.  Sometimes it's quick, sometimes it can take quite a while.
but the log won't grow any more from the session while it is rolling back.



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Shawn

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For the past 2 days something has been screwing up backups by filling
the log and this morning I remembered the show logpinned command and
found the server that is causing it. I've cancelled the session but as
far as I know am at the mercy of TSM to kill it at some point. I
contacted the administrator and they shut down the services but the
sessions still seem to hang out there.







Geoff Gill
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SAIC M/S-B1P

4224 Campus Pt. Ct.

San Diego, CA  92121
(858)826-4062 (office)

(858)412-9883 (blackberry)





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Re: logpinned

2009-11-11 Thread Xav Paice
- Geoffrey L. Gill geoffrey.l.g...@saic.com wrote:

 For the past 2 days something has been screwing up backups by filling
 the log and this morning I remembered the show logpinned command and
 found the server that is causing it. I've cancelled the session but
 as
 far as I know am at the mercy of TSM to kill it at some point. I
 contacted the administrator and they shut down the services but the
 sessions still seem to hang out there.



Take a look also at the 'show logpinned cancel' command if that's not what you 
used to cancel the session - sometimes it's helpful.  If that doesn't work then 
halting the server will do the trick, but that's not the most tidy or 
convenient way... assuming you're about to run out of log and crash anyway...


Re: logpinned

2009-11-11 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.
 Take a look also at the 'show logpinned cancel' command if that's not
what
 you used to cancel the session - sometimes it's helpful.  If that
doesn't
 work then halting the server will do the trick, but that's not the
most
 tidy or convenient way... assuming you're about to run out of log and
 crash anyway...

Yes, been there done that. It basically does a cancel se. 


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San Diego, CA  92121
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Re: logpinned

2009-11-11 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.
 From what I understand, when you cancel the session, TSM rolls back
the
 transaction.  Sometimes it's quick, sometimes it can take quite a
while.
 but the log won't grow any more from the session while it is rolling
back.

It may well be that the log isn't 'supposed to grow but that isn't what
I experienced. I ended up halting TSM and restarting as I did not want
to take a chance that it would fill completely even though I do have
headroom to extend the log further.

The administrator of the server tells me he stopped all TSM services
that were running but that didn't seem to cancel the sessions either,
and I thought it would. If it was supposed to then I'd have to question
the system he was on. 

Geoff Gill 
TSM/PeopleSoft Administrator 
SAIC M/S-B1P 
4224 Campus Pt. Ct.
San Diego, CA  92121
(858)826-4062 (office)
(858)412-9883 (blackberry)


Re: logpinned

2009-11-11 Thread Shawn Drew
I think that if the log is growing, it's from other sessions that are
still running.  You should be able to cancel those without delay.
Before I halt a server, I always try to cancel all the active sessions and
give it 10-15 minutes to free up, while monitoring the log.
Seems to work for me.

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Shawn

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 From what I understand, when you cancel the session, TSM rolls back
the
 transaction.  Sometimes it's quick, sometimes it can take quite a
while.
 but the log won't grow any more from the session while it is rolling
back.

It may well be that the log isn't 'supposed to grow but that isn't what
I experienced. I ended up halting TSM and restarting as I did not want
to take a chance that it would fill completely even though I do have
headroom to extend the log further.

The administrator of the server tells me he stopped all TSM services
that were running but that didn't seem to cancel the sessions either,
and I thought it would. If it was supposed to then I'd have to question
the system he was on.

Geoff Gill
TSM/PeopleSoft Administrator
SAIC M/S-B1P
4224 Campus Pt. Ct.
San Diego, CA  92121
(858)826-4062 (office)
(858)412-9883 (blackberry)



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Re: Who is using Admin Center ? Specifics, please re: AC improvements

2009-11-11 Thread Gergana V Markova
Allen, please submit a FITs requirement on the issue you are outlining so
that it is considered and evaluated for future Admin Center releases.

Thanks!

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To:
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Date:
11/09/2009 07:19 PM
Subject:
Re: [ADSM-L] Who is using Admin Center ?  Specifics, please re: AC
improvements



 On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:20:55 -0700, Gergana V Markova
gmark...@us.ibm.com said:


 Francisco, [ ... and by implication others ... ] can you be more
 specific and provided constructive suggestions of what is not
 working for you, and what specific improvements/ task addition can
 benefit the daily work of a TSM administrator in the Administration
 Center GUI?


Any administrator who has made use of policy domains and distinct
policy privs for their TSM admins is up a smelly creek without a
paddle.

I have ~100 policy domains on (mostly) 4 TSM server instances, each of
which has its administrators.  I've been telling them for 7 years or
so that eventually, IBM will support an authentication exit so their
ID can use the same passwords which are used everywhere else on
campus.  Tivoli means manageability, right?

Now, if I'm to use the ISC, I need not merely tell all these folks
they need to know a _new_, different ID to log into the ISC, I have to
micromanage which ISC IDs are able to administer which nodes on which
servers.

This is a nightmare.


- Allen S. Rout