TDP for Domino on Linux keeps telling me API not installed
Hi all, I'm trying to install TDP for Domino 5.5.3 on Linux openSuSE 12.1 x64. I already installed the BA client version 6.3.0.15 and also installed the TSM API. The problem is, when I run the TDP installer, it tells me The Tivoli Storage Manager Client API v5.5.1 or higher is not installed. Any ideas where the problem could be? Thanks in advance Regards, Michael Roesch
Re: Restore TDP backup image from SQl server 32-bit to 64-bit (binary).
Thank you. It worked normally for me. I was able to restore the 32-bit backup image from TSM server to 64-bit sql server. Regards, Rajesh Lakshminarayanan -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick Harderwijk Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:02 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Restore TDP backup image from SQl server 32-bit to 64-bit (binary). Rajesh, Backups of Sql datafiles are not architectural dependant, so backups and restores of databases and logs made with an x86 or x64 client will work on either platform. Ofcourse you cannot install an x64 client on an x86 machine :-) Cheers, Rick On Jul 30, 2012 8:04 AM, Lakshminarayanan, Rajesh rajesh.lakshminaraya...@dfs.com wrote: Hi, I have a scenario where one of the SQL server(2005 SP2) got migrated to 64-bit version. I want to know whether the tdp backup image(taken in 32-bit binary) can be restored in 64-bit sql server. My SQL dba has tested the native backup restore from 32-bit to 64-bit works fine. I like to whether it is possible with TDP approach. Has anyone tried it before. My TSM environment details: TSM server ver:5.5.5.0 (platform AIX 6.1) TSM client version : 5.5.2.10 TPD version : 5.5.0.0 Regards, Rajesh
Export backup data between LC
All, We have to move about 150 TB backup data from one TSM LC to an other. Using command export node node_name filedata=all toserver server_name will take months. Does anybody knows if it is possible to export the metadata of backupdata from one LC to an other and update the owner of the volumes on the LM? The LC's share the same library. The involved TSM clients have there own collocationgroup. Kind Regards, Ruud Meuleman ** This transmission is confidential and must not be used or disclosed by anyone other than the intended recipient. Neither Tata Steel Europe Limited nor any of its subsidiaries can accept any responsibility for any use or misuse of the transmission by anyone. For address and company registration details of certain entities within the Tata Steel Europe group of companies, please visit http://www.tatasteeleurope.com/entities **
Re: Export backup data between LC
The answer is no. What you can do with TSM 6.3, is set up node replication. Let the dying server replicate its data to the target server, and when it is in sync, break the replication and shut the dying server down. That's probably less work for you, but still won't happen quickly. Or if this is about server consolidation, you could just set up 2 instances on the target machine, without needing to get all the metadata in one DB. Can you tell us why you are doing this? Folks might have some more creative solutions. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Meuleman, Ruud Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:52 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Export backup data between LC All, We have to move about 150 TB backup data from one TSM LC to an other. Using command export node node_name filedata=all toserver server_name will take months. Does anybody knows if it is possible to export the metadata of backupdata from one LC to an other and update the owner of the volumes on the LM? The LC's share the same library. The involved TSM clients have there own collocationgroup. Kind Regards, Ruud Meuleman ** This transmission is confidential and must not be used or disclosed by anyone other than the intended recipient. Neither Tata Steel Europe Limited nor any of its subsidiaries can accept any responsibility for any use or misuse of the transmission by anyone. For address and company registration details of certain entities within the Tata Steel Europe group of companies, please visit http://www.tatasteeleurope.com/entities **
Re: TDP for Domino on Linux keeps telling me API not installed
Michael, I ran into a similar problem with TDP for Exchange 5.2.1.1 (to reproduce a problem in Lab). I had to uninstall, the TSM baclient 6.3 and install TSM 5.4.1.4 in order to get the TSM API installed. I guess you will need to go back to a version 5 baclient. Pierre Billaudeau Analyste en stockage Livraison des Infrastructures Serveurs Société des Alcools du Québec 514-254-6000 x 6559 -Message d'origine- De : ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] De la part de Michael Roesch Envoyé : 31 juillet 2012 05:09 À : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Objet : [ADSM-L] TDP for Domino on Linux keeps telling me API not installed Hi all, I'm trying to install TDP for Domino 5.5.3 on Linux openSuSE 12.1 x64. I already installed the BA client version 6.3.0.15 and also installed the TSM API. The problem is, when I run the TDP installer, it tells me The Tivoli Storage Manager Client API v5.5.1 or higher is not installed. Any ideas where the problem could be? Thanks in advance Regards, Michael Roesch -- Information confidentielle : Le présent message, ainsi que tout fichier qui y est joint, est envoyé à l'intention exclusive de son ou de ses destinataires; il est de nature confidentielle et peut constituer une information privilégiée. Nous avertissons toute personne autre que le destinataire prévu que tout examen, réacheminement, impression, copie, distribution ou autre utilisation de ce message et de tout fichier qui y est joint est strictement interdit. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, veuillez en aviser immédiatement l'expéditeur par retour de courriel et supprimer ce message et tout document joint de votre système. Merci.
Re: Export backup data between LC
Hi You can export node form source server and import to target and after that set replication ... This will speed up the process But if you go with export/import for replication you should export from source and import on target and after that set replication... there is IBM note about this Regards Chavdar On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Prather, Wanda wanda.prat...@icfi.com wrote: The answer is no. What you can do with TSM 6.3, is set up node replication. Let the dying server replicate its data to the target server, and when it is in sync, break the replication and shut the dying server down. That's probably less work for you, but still won't happen quickly. Or if this is about server consolidation, you could just set up 2 instances on the target machine, without needing to get all the metadata in one DB. Can you tell us why you are doing this? Folks might have some more creative solutions. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Meuleman, Ruud Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:52 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Export backup data between LC All, We have to move about 150 TB backup data from one TSM LC to an other. Using command export node node_name filedata=all toserver server_name will take months. Does anybody knows if it is possible to export the metadata of backupdata from one LC to an other and update the owner of the volumes on the LM? The LC's share the same library. The involved TSM clients have there own collocationgroup. Kind Regards, Ruud Meuleman ** This transmission is confidential and must not be used or disclosed by anyone other than the intended recipient. Neither Tata Steel Europe Limited nor any of its subsidiaries can accept any responsibility for any use or misuse of the transmission by anyone. For address and company registration details of certain entities within the Tata Steel Europe group of companies, please visit http://www.tatasteeleurope.com/entities **
Re: Export backup data between LC
Been there - done that - and as Wanda said, there is no easy/quick way. When we went to the new split-licensing model, I had to create a separate TSM server for the clients we are PVU licensing - 6-nodes with 200TB occupancy and 100M objects had to be moved - and yes, it took many weeks. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Meuleman, Ruud ruud.meule...@tatasteel.com wrote: All, We have to move about 150 TB backup data from one TSM LC to an other. Using command export node node_name filedata=all toserver server_name will take months. Does anybody knows if it is possible to export the metadata of backupdata from one LC to an other and update the owner of the volumes on the LM? The LC's share the same library. The involved TSM clients have there own collocationgroup. Kind Regards, Ruud Meuleman ** This transmission is confidential and must not be used or disclosed by anyone other than the intended recipient. Neither Tata Steel Europe Limited nor any of its subsidiaries can accept any responsibility for any use or misuse of the transmission by anyone. For address and company registration details of certain entities within the Tata Steel Europe group of companies, please visit http://www.tatasteeleurope.com/entities ** -- *Zoltan Forray* TSM Software Hardware Administrator Virginia Commonwealth University UCC/Office of Technology Services zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807 Don't be a phishing victim - VCU and other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your password, social security number or confidential personal information. For more details visit http://infosecurity.vcu.edu/phishing.html
Re: Export backup data between LC
We are upgrading TSM server 5.5.5.2 to TSM server 6.2.2.30. TSM LM 6.2 still supports TSM LC TSM5.5. When we have no TSM5.5 anymore we will upgrade to TSM 6.3. Backup client we start new backups on the TSM 6.2.2.30. Archive client we have to export all data from TSM server 5.5.5.2 to TSM server 6.2.2.30. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Prather, Wanda Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:07 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Export backup data between LC The answer is no. What you can do with TSM 6.3, is set up node replication. Let the dying server replicate its data to the target server, and when it is in sync, break the replication and shut the dying server down. That's probably less work for you, but still won't happen quickly. Or if this is about server consolidation, you could just set up 2 instances on the target machine, without needing to get all the metadata in one DB. Can you tell us why you are doing this? Folks might have some more creative solutions. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Meuleman, Ruud Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:52 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Export backup data between LC All, We have to move about 150 TB backup data from one TSM LC to an other. Using command export node node_name filedata=all toserver server_name will take months. Does anybody knows if it is possible to export the metadata of backupdata from one LC to an other and update the owner of the volumes on the LM? The LC's share the same library. The involved TSM clients have there own collocationgroup. Kind Regards, Ruud Meuleman ** This transmission is confidential and must not be used or disclosed by anyone other than the intended recipient. Neither Tata Steel Europe Limited nor any of its subsidiaries can accept any responsibility for any use or misuse of the transmission by anyone. For address and company registration details of certain entities within the Tata Steel Europe group of companies, please visit http://www.tatasteeleurope.com/entities ** ** This transmission is confidential and must not be used or disclosed by anyone other than the intended recipient. Neither Tata Steel Europe Limited nor any of its subsidiaries can accept any responsibility for any use or misuse of the transmission by anyone. For address and company registration details of certain entities within the Tata Steel Europe group of companies, please visit http://www.tatasteeleurope.com/entities **
Re: TDP for Domino on Linux keeps telling me API not installed
Hello, Michael will need to use a 32-bit TSM API since DP Domino is 32-bit. The latest BA package with a 32 bit API is 6.1. Oh, I thought I could use the package TIVsm-API64.x86_64.rpm, because of the naming you could think that it's a x86 application in a x64 operating system, like when you have a 32-Bit Domino server on a 64-Bit Windows OS. Then I'll look for the 6.1 BA client and use that API. Thank you, Frank Regards, Michael On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Frank Ramke ra...@us.ibm.com wrote: Hello, Michael will need to use a 32-bit TSM API since DP Domino is 32-bit. The latest BA package with a 32 bit API is 6.1. Frank Ramke TSM Development From: Billaudeau, Pierre p.billaud...@saq.qc.ca To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Date: 07/31/2012 08:29 AM Subject:Re: TDP for Domino on Linux keeps telling me API not installed Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Michael, I ran into a similar problem with TDP for Exchange 5.2.1.1 (to reproduce a problem in Lab). I had to uninstall, the TSM baclient 6.3 and install TSM 5.4.1.4 in order to get the TSM API installed. I guess you will need to go back to a version 5 baclient. Pierre Billaudeau Analyste en stockage Livraison des Infrastructures Serveurs Société des Alcools du Québec 514-254-6000 x 6559 -Message d'origine- De : ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] De la part de Michael Roesch Envoyé : 31 juillet 2012 05:09 À : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Objet : [ADSM-L] TDP for Domino on Linux keeps telling me API not installed Hi all, I'm trying to install TDP for Domino 5.5.3 on Linux openSuSE 12.1 x64. I already installed the BA client version 6.3.0.15 and also installed the TSM API. The problem is, when I run the TDP installer, it tells me The Tivoli Storage Manager Client API v5.5.1 or higher is not installed. Any ideas where the problem could be? Thanks in advance Regards, Michael Roesch -- Information confidentielle : Le présent message, ainsi que tout fichier qui y est joint, est envoyé à l'intention exclusive de son ou de ses destinataires; il est de nature confidentielle et peut constituer une information privilégiée. Nous avertissons toute personne autre que le destinataire prévu que tout examen, réacheminement, impression, copie, distribution ou autre utilisation de ce message et de tout fichier qui y est joint est strictement interdit. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, veuillez en aviser immédiatement l'expéditeur par retour de courriel et supprimer ce message et tout document joint de votre système. Merci.
Multiple journal engines on a single server
Hi All, Sometimes when I read things that make sense it causes me to question if it really works so I thought I'd throw this out there to see if anyone is doing it. I've read that you can put up multiple journal engines on a single server and I'm wondering if anyone has tested it and I'm also curious if you have decided if it has any advantages or disadvantages. I was thinking, because NDMP has been squashed for a specific customer, I need to find out the best of what's left. Hearing statements like, we want to move all the data curretly x number of servers currently access on the NAS to a single server, it makes me question how we're going to handle this single backup. I currently can't tell you how many millions of files we're talking about nor can I say how much data we're talking about, but it seems to me that it would make sense to create multiple drives to spread it out to be able to use multiple journal engines to track everything, and I was hoping it might make it quicker. One other question is if it would be better to schedule seperate backup windows for those different drives to help spread things out and get it backed up at least somewhat timely. Any suggestions would be welcome. Thank You Geoff Gill
Re: TSM V6.3 with IBM TS3200 I/O stations issue
Hey, I'm with Wanda. The server is probably just waiting for a reply... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Denier Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:06 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM V6.3 with IBM TS3200 I/O stations issue -Victor Shum wrote: - We were trying to use the TS-3200 I/O station to handle checkin and checkout of tape. After we change the TS3200 library to enable I/O station; then reboot the tape library and restart the TSM server. We still cannot checkout any tape to the I/O station. As far as I know, the tape library checking TSM does during initialization is pretty much the same as an 'audit library' command. The documentation for that command does not suggest that it would be capable of detecting the appearance of an I/O station in an existing library. My guess is that you will need to delete and redefine the library to get TSM to recognize the presence of the I/O station. This would entail checking out the volumes before deleting the library and checking them in after redefining the library. Thomas Denier Thomas Jefferson University Hospital
Re: TDP for Domino on Linux keeps telling me API not installed
Hello, Michael will need to use a 32-bit TSM API since DP Domino is 32-bit. The latest BA package with a 32 bit API is 6.1. Frank Ramke TSM Development From: Billaudeau, Pierre p.billaud...@saq.qc.ca To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Date: 07/31/2012 08:29 AM Subject:Re: TDP for Domino on Linux keeps telling me API not installed Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Michael, I ran into a similar problem with TDP for Exchange 5.2.1.1 (to reproduce a problem in Lab). I had to uninstall, the TSM baclient 6.3 and install TSM 5.4.1.4 in order to get the TSM API installed. I guess you will need to go back to a version 5 baclient. Pierre Billaudeau Analyste en stockage Livraison des Infrastructures Serveurs Société des Alcools du Québec 514-254-6000 x 6559 -Message d'origine- De : ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] De la part de Michael Roesch Envoyé : 31 juillet 2012 05:09 À : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Objet : [ADSM-L] TDP for Domino on Linux keeps telling me API not installed Hi all, I'm trying to install TDP for Domino 5.5.3 on Linux openSuSE 12.1 x64. I already installed the BA client version 6.3.0.15 and also installed the TSM API. The problem is, when I run the TDP installer, it tells me The Tivoli Storage Manager Client API v5.5.1 or higher is not installed. Any ideas where the problem could be? Thanks in advance Regards, Michael Roesch -- Information confidentielle : Le présent message, ainsi que tout fichier qui y est joint, est envoyé à l'intention exclusive de son ou de ses destinataires; il est de nature confidentielle et peut constituer une information privilégiée. Nous avertissons toute personne autre que le destinataire prévu que tout examen, réacheminement, impression, copie, distribution ou autre utilisation de ce message et de tout fichier qui y est joint est strictement interdit. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, veuillez en aviser immédiatement l'expéditeur par retour de courriel et supprimer ce message et tout document joint de votre système. Merci.
Tivoli Flash Copy Manager for Custom application backup mode
Hi, Anybody please explain why TSFCM for Custom application doesnt has incremental backup mode? Best Regards, Wira Chinwong SCSi Co., Ltd. 2521/69 Biztown Ladprao Rd., Klongchaokhunsingha, Wangthonglang, Bangkok 10310 Tel 02-9559873-4 Fax 02-9559875 ext 5 Mobile: 086-9092992 E-mail: w...@scsi.co.th
tsm plan file
Can one control the extension of a plan file. Thanks, Tim Brown Supervisor Computer Operations Central Hudson Gas Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: mailto:tbr...@cenhud.com tbr...@cenhud.com mailto:tbr...@cenhud.com mailto:tbr...@cenhud.com Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 Cell: 845-235-4255 This message contains confidential information and is only for the intended recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this note and deleting all copies and attachments.
Re: Tivoli Flash Copy Manager for Custom application backup mode
Wira, Are you referring to Windows or UNIX and Linux? If you are using Windows, what VSS Hardware Provider? What application are you protecting? Are you sending that backups to a TSM Server? What storage system are you using? How are the LUNs configured? Del ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu wrote on 07/31/2012 12:15:05 PM: From: Wira Chinwong w...@scsi.co.th To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Date: 07/31/2012 12:27 PM Subject: Tivoli Flash Copy Manager for Custom application backup mode Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Hi, Anybody please explain why TSFCM for Custom application doesn’t has “incremental” backup mode? Best Regards, Wira Chinwong
Re: Export backup data between LC
Hi, Ruud. Never underestimate the bandwidth of a truck - but latency can be problematic. A somewhat workable option would be to perform an export node filedata=all to tape, then FedEx the tapes next-day. Once you import the data on the target server, you can then do an export toserver= fromdate= merge=yes, which hopefully will minimize the payload sent over the WAN. It would be even easier if, prior to the export, you could get management to agree that you could afford to lose a day's worth of backups, in which case you wouldn't even have to do the merge. (Ok, maybe two days.) On 7/31/2012 4:52 AM, Meuleman, Ruud wrote: All, We have to move about 150 TB backup data from one TSM LC to an other. Using command export node node_name filedata=all toserver server_name will take months. Does anybody knows if it is possible to export the metadata of backupdata from one LC to an other and update the owner of the volumes on the LM? The LC's share the same library. The involved TSM clients have there own collocationgroup. Kind Regards, Ruud Meuleman ** This transmission is confidential and must not be used or disclosed by anyone other than the intended recipient. Neither Tata Steel Europe Limited nor any of its subsidiaries can accept any responsibility for any use or misuse of the transmission by anyone. For address and company registration details of certain entities within the Tata Steel Europe group of companies, please visit http://www.tatasteeleurope.com/entities **
Re: VM Archive
IBM just told me this wasn't possible. If anyone is interested, please vote on this RFE I just submitted RFE ID 25065: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfeCR_ID=25065 Regards, Shawn Shawn Drew Internet Shawn DREW Sent by: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 07/30/2012 01:22 PM Please respond to ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L cc Subject [ADSM-L] VM Archive Looked through the manual today and can't find any information on archiving VM data.Is there a way to archive data from a VMware guest (file-level or image) without installing a client on the actual guest? There doesn't seem to be an archive vm command Regards, Shawn Shawn Drew This message and any attachments (the message) is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. BNP PARIBAS (and its subsidiaries) shall (will) not therefore be liable for the message if modified. Please note that certain functions and services for BNP Paribas may be performed by BNP Paribas RCC, Inc. This message and any attachments (the message) is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. BNP PARIBAS (and its subsidiaries) shall (will) not therefore be liable for the message if modified. Please note that certain functions and services for BNP Paribas may be performed by BNP Paribas RCC, Inc.
Re: Multiple journal engines on a single server
From one response it looks like I need to clarify this post. I do understand journaling does not work with a NAS, which is why I recommended using NDMP, but unfortunately they don't want that in this instance. Some of the data on the NAS is going to be moved to a physical server and will be backed up from there. My statement related to spreading the data across multiple drives did not make that clear unfortunately. Sorry for not being more specific. So based on that I was looking for anyone who might have a large single server they have something that at least works fairly well. It kind of makes sense to me to spread the data across multiple drives and run a seperate journal engine for each but I don't know if it helps having multiple compared to a single journal instance. I also thought using multiple drives could at least give them an option to back up drives at different times of the day, on their own specific schedule, so things 'sort of' get backed up more timely. Hope that helps. Thank You Geoff Gill From: Geoff Gill avalnch...@yahoo.com To: adsm-l@vm.marist.edu adsm-l@vm.marist.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:35 AM Subject: Multiple journal engines on a single server Hi All, Sometimes when I read things that make sense it causes me to question if it really works so I thought I'd throw this out there to see if anyone is doing it. I've read that you can put up multiple journal engines on a single server and I'm wondering if anyone has tested it and I'm also curious if you have decided if it has any advantages or disadvantages. I was thinking, because NDMP has been squashed for a specific customer, I need to find out the best of what's left. Hearing statements like, we want to move all the data curretly x number of servers currently access on the NAS to a single server, it makes me question how we're going to handle this single backup. I currently can't tell you how many millions of files we're talking about nor can I say how much data we're talking about, but it seems to me that it would make sense to create multiple drives to spread it out to be able to use multiple journal engines to track everything, and I was hoping it might make it quicker. One other question is if it would be better to schedule seperate backup windows for those different drives to help spread things out and get it backed up at least somewhat timely. Any suggestions would be welcome. Thank You Geoff Gill
Re: Multiple journal engines on a single server
Hi Geoff, I don’t think you told us whether the physical server is Windows or AIX, I’m writing here from my experience with Windows. When you install the journal engine, it does create a separate journal DB for each drive that you want journaled. I have never installed multiple instances of the journal. The “journal engine” doesn’t actually participate in the backup. Yep, it isn’t part of the backup at all. What the journal engine does is invoke a Windows function that monitors file system activity and makes a list of the files that have changed. (In the journal DB). So when the backup runs, it is essentially doing a “dsmc selective –filelist=filea,fileb,filec, etc”, getting that list of files from the journal DB. So the journal engine doesn’t play into the speed of the backup. On a big fileserver (70+ million files, say), the change rate is usually very, very low. So getting the backup done is usually pretty trivial, when all you are doing is backing up the new/changed stuff and you don’t have to traverse the filetree(s). So backing up “quicker” doesn’t’ have much to do with how many journal engines you have, AFAIK. With the journal engine operating, it’s just about how much data you have to move during the backup, no extra time traversing the file tree. That being said, there ARE serious reasons to make lots of LUNS. ·The biggest one: when you use the journal engine, IBM still recommends that you do a periodic backup with –nojournal, to pick up things that the Windows monitoring function the journal engine uses has missed. So periodically, you still have to do a dsmc incr that traverses the filetree. My experience with Win2K3 was that over 70,000,000 files and it becomes nearly impossible to traverse the filetree in less than 24 hours. You want to use something like Windows dfs or mounted drives to make the directory trees look “nice” and rational for the users, but actually have the directories spread across smaller separate LUNS which can’t have more than a cazillion files each. ·If you have multiple LUNS, you can set resourceutilization=10 and have up to 4 pairs of backup sessions running at once ·If something invalidates the journal (and something will), you’ve only invalidated the journal on part of your backups, so you don’t have to scan the whole filetree to revalidate it (and you will have to revalidate the journal for a LUN, at some time) ·Think about restores. Journaling helps you back up, it doesn’t help you restore. The bigger the LUN, the harder/longer it takes to put it back. You can get two 1 TB luns restored in the almost the same time as 1, with multiple restore streams. I can’t think of any reason you’d need to install multiple journal services, unless the change rate on the filesystem is too high for 1 journal service to keep up with it. And if you look at the parms for the journal service, there are buffering values and other misc stuff to tune the engine so that it can better keep up with the change rate, before resorting to multiple services. I’m sure other folks will have different experiences to share. W From: avalnche96@ [mailto:yahoo.com avalnch...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:03 PM To: Prather, Wanda Subject: Re: RE: [ADSM-L] Multiple journal engines on a single server I understand Wanda. The Customer does not want us to use ndmp so they are moving some data to a physical server so we can use journal. Sent from my LG Thrill™ 4G smartphone with glasses-free 3D on ATT -- Original Message -- From : Prather, Wanda To : Geoff Gill; Sent : 7/31/2012 14:29 Subject : RE: [ADSM-L] Multiple journal engines on a single server Easy answer, you can't use journaling on a NAS, as the client can't be installed there. If it's a Netapp, use snapdiff, solves the problem easily. If it's a non-Netapp NAS, you either suffer through NDMP, or you set up proxy relationships and let clients back up the shares via CIFS. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU]mailto:[mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Geoff Gill Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:36 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDUmailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Multiple journal engines on a single server Hi All, Sometimes when I read things that make sense it causes me to question if it really works so I thought I'd throw this out there to see if anyone is doing it. I've read that you can put up multiple journal engines on a single server and I'm wondering if anyone has tested it and I'm also curious if you have decided if it has any advantages or disadvantages. I was thinking, because NDMP has been squashed for a specific customer, I need to find out the best of what's left. Hearing statements like, we want to move all the data curretly x number of servers currently access on the NAS to a single server, it makes me question
Re: VM Archive
Have you considered mounting the VM backup and then running the archive? It's similar to a feature Fastback has for moving data to TSM for long term storage. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Shawn Drew shawn.d...@americas.bnpparibas.com wrote: Looked through the manual today and can't find any information on archiving VM data.Is there a way to archive data from a VMware guest (file-level or image) without installing a client on the actual guest? There doesn't seem to be an archive vm command Regards, Shawn Shawn Drew This message and any attachments (the message) is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. BNP PARIBAS (and its subsidiaries) shall (will) not therefore be liable for the message if modified. Please note that certain functions and services for BNP Paribas may be performed by BNP Paribas RCC, Inc. -- Ken Bury
Re: VM Archive
Good thinking, Ken. Now that you've got me thinking outside the VE box You could Storage vMotion the VM into an NFS datastore, mount the datastore on a client machine, then archive the whole VM. If you wanted to archive a subset of the VM, you could NFS- or CIFS-share a filesystem or directory from the VM to the TSM server, then archive it there. - Reply message - From: Kenneth Bury kenbu...@gmail.com To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] VM Archive Date: Tue, Jul 31, 2012 6:54 PM Have you considered mounting the VM backup and then running the archive? It's similar to a feature Fastback has for moving data to TSM for long term storage. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Shawn Drew shawn.d...@americas.bnpparibas.com wrote: Looked through the manual today and can't find any information on archiving VM data.Is there a way to archive data from a VMware guest (file-level or image) without installing a client on the actual guest? There doesn't seem to be an archive vm command Regards, Shawn Shawn Drew This message and any attachments (the message) is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. BNP PARIBAS (and its subsidiaries) shall (will) not therefore be liable for the message if modified. Please note that certain functions and services for BNP Paribas may be performed by BNP Paribas RCC, Inc. -- Ken Bury
Re: Tivoli Flash Copy Manager for Custom application backup mode
Hi Del, We are using DS8000 + AIX6.1 + inhouse application. We need to do backup only one filesystem to TSM server. During run setup_gen.sh, there are only FULL/DIFF/ARCH mode list in part of TSM backup. When I check process during TSM backup. I found dsmc backup group command is running. Best Regards, Wira Chinwong SCSi Co., Ltd. 2521/69 Biztown Ladprao Rd., Klongchaokhunsingha, Wangthonglang, Bangkok 10310 Tel 02-9559873-4 Fax 02-9559875 ext 5 Mobile: 086-9092992 E-mail: w...@scsi.co.th Wira, Are you referring to Windows or UNIX and Linux? If you are using Windows, what VSS Hardware Provider? What application are you protecting? Are you sending that backups to a TSM Server? What storage system are you using? How are the LUNs configured? Del ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L AT vm.marist DOT edu wrote on 07/31/2012 12:15:05 PM: From: Wira Chinwong wira AT SCSI.CO DOT TH To: ADSM-L AT vm.marist DOT edu Date: 07/31/2012 12:27 PM Subject: Tivoli Flash Copy Manager for Custom application backup mode Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L AT vm.marist DOT edu Hi, Anybody please explain why TSFCM for Custom application doesnt has incremental backup mode? Best Regards, Wira Chinwong
