Re: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool
Grigor, With large sata/fata drives recover can take a long time and during that time one could loose a second disk drive which with RAID 5 would result in total data loss. RaID6 provides two sets of independent party calculations P is one set and Q the other so you can have dual disk failure and not loose data. This compensates for the longer recover time of large disk. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Grigori Solonovitch g.solonovi...@bkme.com Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:39:43 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool RAID6 came together with FATA 900GB disks. IBM does not support RAID5 on so big disks (only RAID10 and new RAID6). Difference in arrays is: RAID5 - 6+P+S, RAID6 - 5+P+Q+S. I do not know what is drive Q, but it allows to recover big disks faster. Grigori G. Solonovitch Senior Technical Architect Information Technology Bank of Kuwait and Middle East http://www.bkme.com Phone: (+965) 2231-2274 Mobile: (+965) 99798073 E-Mail: g.solonovi...@bkme.com Please consider the environment before printing this Email -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Langdale Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:31 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool Hello Grigori Quite new then if you're using raid 6. In that case, I'd not worry too much about fragmentation. If you have more than a couple arrays for each of the FATA drives, the data is probably going to be all over the drives anyway. steven Steven Langdale Global Information Services EAME SAN/Storage Planning and Implementation ( Phone : +44 (0)1733 584175 ( Mob: +44 (0)7876 216782 ü Conference: +44 (0)208 609 7400 Code: 331817 + Email: steven.langd...@cat.com Grigori Solonovitch g.solonovi...@bkme.com Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 29/07/2009 08:40 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 28/08/2009 Hello Steven, We have IBM DS8100 with: - 146GB Enterprise disks (RAID5) for data; - 500GB FATA (RAID5) for backup and archive data; - 900GB FATA (RAID6) for backup and archive data. DS8100 is shared by nodes and TSM Server using different arrays for data and backup data. Regards, Grigori G. Solonovitch Senior Technical Architect Information Technology Bank of Kuwait and Middle East http://www.bkme.com Phone: (+965) 2231-2274 Mobile: (+965) 99798073 E-Mail: g.solonovi...@bkme.com Please consider the environment before printing this Email -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Langdale Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:57 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool Hello Grigori What SAN have you got, and is it shared storage? I ask because there has been discussion on FS fragmentation but surely this is meaningless if your using a SAN. Steven Langdale Global Information Services EAME SAN/Storage Planning and Implementation ( Phone : +44 (0)1733 584175 ( Mob: +44 (0)7876 216782 ü Conference: +44 (0)208 609 7400 Code: 331817 + Email: steven.langd...@cat.com Grigori Solonovitch g.solonovi...@bkme.com Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 29/07/2009 06:37 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 28/08/2009 Hello Christian, Thank you very much for your proposal. I understand that it is much easier to use migration, but I am still going to use procedure based on data movement because of: 1) migration is totally controlled by TSM Server and depends on number of nodes and number of migration processes. I am afraid to overlap migration activity and backup/restore operations. TSM Server can be overloaded because both the source and target storage pools are on SAN disks with very high performance. Data movement is manually controlled and can be done at time with minimal backup/restore activity (for example, at the weekends); 2) unfortunately there are limitations in disk space. I am not able to allocate FILE storage pool with the same size as DISK storage pool initially. I am planning to move raw logical volumes selectively to release SAN data volume from DISK pool, allocate it to FILE pool and continue process like this till all data will be moved. We are converting DISK pools to FILE pools as a preparation to upgrade to TSM 6.1 with de-duplication. We hope to save some disk space in primary storage pools and increase expiry period for data. Unfortunately, another option based on IBM VTL hardware with de-duplication is very costly (high available VTL,
Re: Preferred TSM Platform
DB2 performs well on all platforms. You just have to size memory and disk layout the correct way. Aside from the Red books two good sources are: Configuring and tuning Databases on the Solaris Platform by Allan N Packer (a little dated but still good concepts) Understanding DB2 Learning Visually with Examples. 2nd Edition Raul F. Chong, Xiaomel Wang, Michael Dang and Dwaine R. Snow On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Sergio Fuentes wrote: We're actually considering a new platform for future TSM servers simply because we're not an AIX shop anymore (TSM being the lone holdout). We're not a very good windows shop either, and our strength is really in Solaris and/ or Linux, technically speaking. When I compare the hardware and LVM features for Solaris with those of Linux, I can see the benefits of Solaris. But this listserv group has me second-guessing myself since I have yet to hear from someone with a Solaris-based TSM infrastructure. (I would stick with AIX if I could, but you know... politics). Solaris 10 and the built-in features of ZFS alone have kind of swayed me towards Solaris. It's the only native LVM-based filesystem that I think can compete with what I'm used to, namely JFS2. As for hardware, Sun offers some pretty hefty I/O-centric boxes, with a hefty pricetag. But the pricey p650 that we're on now has lasted almost 7 years, is still very stable and not breaking much of a sweat. Still, the range of servers that Sun offers (which I don't see in the Dell world) is another advantage. Any thoughts from anyone running a TSM server on Solaris? We could use the insight since I believe we'll be rolling out a development environment on Solaris as a proof-of-concept. Anyone familiar with DB2 performance on Solaris? Thanks! SF Jim Zajkowski wrote: On Feb 25, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Strand, Neil B. wrote: consider Solaris Actually I'm considering replacing my Linux TSM server with Solaris - either SPARC or x86 - predominately because Solaris has a fast TCP/IP stack, ZFS, and fewer driver issues than on Linux. Has anyone also moved from Linux to Solaris? --Jim
Re: TSM 6.x and dedupe
Until it comes out, one could use diligent Protectier as reference point --Original Message-- From: Tyree, David Sender: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU ReplyTo: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM 6.x and dedupe Sent: Feb 20, 2009 08:51 Can users of TSM 6.x comment on it's data dedupe functionality? I'm curious as to how it functions and would like some info about it. David Tyree Interface Analyst South Georgia Medical Center 229.333.1155 Confidential Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: TSM 6.x and dedupe
My statement was a point of reference to a similar technology, which has real world use cases. Until 6.x comes out and is used or IBM puts out Red Books, Red papers look at like tech is all anyone has. --Original Message-- From: Remco Post Sender: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU ReplyTo: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 6.x and dedupe Sent: Feb 21, 2009 15:20 On Feb 21, 2009, at 20:49 , Delroy Blake wrote: Until it comes out, one could use diligent Protectier as reference point do you have any indications about any part of the diligent system having made it's way into TSM 6.1? IMNSHO your statement is unfunded. --Original Message-- From: Tyree, David Sender: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU ReplyTo: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM 6.x and dedupe Sent: Feb 20, 2009 08:51 Can users of TSM 6.x comment on it's data dedupe functionality? I'm curious as to how it functions and would like some info about it. David Tyree Interface Analyst South Georgia Medical Center 229.333.1155 Confidential Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post r.p...@plcs.nl +31 6 248 21 622 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: Generating a clientaction to send an email in Windows.
BLAT and Perl work well Vbscript is also an option --Original Message-- From: Richard Rhodes Sender: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU ReplyTo: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Generating a clientaction to send an email in Windows. Sent: Feb 9, 2009 12:23 Another option would be to install cygwin. Wanda Prather wprat...@jasi.co M To Sent by: ADSM: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Dist Stor cc Manager ads...@vm.marist Subject .EDU Re: Generating a clientaction to send an email in Windows. 02/09/2009 01:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ads...@vm.marist .EDU If you were using shell scripts on unix, the approximation I prefer is to install ActivePerl on the Windows host. It's open source, and safe - doesn't install a single dll. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Nicholas Rodolfich nrodolf...@cmaontheweb.com wrote: Hello All! Thanks for your help! I am an old UNIX guy currently working with TSM on WIndows. I am trying to generate a client action to email an operator at a certain point in my server maintenance script which I have done for years on UNIX with no problem. I am not finidng it so easy to do this from Windows though. WHat is the best way to do this in Windows? ThankYou! ThankYou! Regards, Nicholas - The information contained in this message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately, and delete the original message. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: Client in SENDW state
What does DB2 logs show during the restore --Original Message-- From: Collins, Brenda Sender: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU ReplyTo: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Subject: [ADSM-L] Client in SENDW state Sent: Feb 2, 2009 15:57 Hi everyone! I have a client that can not resore a DB2 database. It does backup fine but when restoring, it restores a certain amount of data and then goes into a 'sendw' state. After about 9 - 10 min., the client terminates the session with TSM. TSM Server - 5.5.1.1 Client 5.4.0.0 DB2 Backups using API AIX 5.3 (both TSM server and client) We have done the following. Network traces Check for firewall and/or load balancer timeouts. Checked for ports being blocked. Restore from virtual tape, same timeout issue. Restore from physical tape, timeout issue. Restored db to a different client server, using both virtual tape and physcial tape,it restored fine. Built duplicate filesystem on different client server and was able to restore db fine and bring it up. The fact that we have proved TSM can restore the data on the tape and that the database can be brought up successfully on a different server seems to point to an AIX problem but I am not sure what. Backups on the client going to TSM work fine, it is just the restore process that terminates. If anyone has run across this problem and can provide some assistance, it would be greatly appreciated. Brenda Collins, Sr. Principal Systems Admin Medtronic, Inc. Ph: 763-505-6057 Mobile: 763-218-9596 [CONFIDENTIALITY AND PRIVACY NOTICE] Information transmitted by this email is proprietary to Medtronic and is intended for use only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is private, privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or it appears that this mail has been forwarded to you without proper authority, you are notified that any use or dissemination of this information in any manner is strictly prohibited. In such cases, please delete this mail from your records. To view this notice in other languages you can either select the following link or manually copy and paste the link into the address bar of a web browser: http://emaildisclaimer.medtronic.com Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: ANS1329S (RC29) Server out of data storage space..... But not really!
Saw this issue with UDB backup. It justed looked at the size of the disk spool space at the start of backup. On Wednesday, February 09, 2005, at 09:08AM, Robin Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone encountered the subject message? We saw it today in a Oracle RMAN backup... what I think happened is, at the time the backup script started, there was not enough space in the ORACLE_DISK pool, nor in the ORACLE_LTO2 pool which is next in the heirarchy. Other sessions of the same job were still working, and we added scratches and ran a migration while this backup job was still running. The script terminated much later, I think when the other sessions finished... but why couldn't it recover and use the newly available disk space or scratch tapes? There isn't a whole lot of detail in the TDP manual about how server space gets reserved and allocated... but it seems from experience that TDP looks for enough space to hold the entire full backup. Can anyone confirm this? TIA Robin Sharpe Berlex Labs
Re: 5.3 AIX Client jfs2 filesets
Are you using 32 or 64 bit version of AIX? Do you have JFS2 filesystem on your AIX client? Which version of AIX are you running if running 5.3 by default it uses jfs2 (enhanced jfs) earlier versions like 5.2,51,4,3 uses jfs. On Feb 7, 2005, at 4:37 AM, TSM wrote: Hello, I said it not clearly: I want to use TSM 5.3 AIX Client. I don't understand the difference between tivoli.tsm.client.ba.jfs2 5.3.0.0 TSM Client - Backup/Archive Base Files 5.3.0.0 TSM Client - Backup/Archive Common Files 5.3.0.0 TSM Client - Backup/Archive WEB Client 5.3.0.0 TSM Client - IMAGE Backup Client 5.3.0.0 TSM Client - NAS Backup Client and tivoli.tsm.client.ba 5.3.0.0 TSM Client - Backup/Archive Base Files 5.3.0.0 TSM Client - Backup/Archive Common Files 5.3.0.0 TSM Client - Backup/Archive WEB Client 5.3.0.0 TSM Client - IMAGE Backup Client 5.3.0.0 TSM Client - NAS Backup Client Also I don't understand, when to install tivoli.tsm.client.api.32bit ? when to install tivoli.tsm.client.api.64bit ? when to install tivoli.tsm.client.api.jfs2 ? Thanks in advance Andreas.
