Re: issues with copy group
To look archive copygroup information issue q cop t=a f=d t=a/type=archive it's optional parameter that specifies type of copygroup you queried (ba copygroup by default) Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru Erwin Zavala erwin.zav...@gmail.com Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 04.03.2010 19:42 Please respond to erwin.zav...@gmail.com To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject [ADSM-L] issues with copy group I am executing this: def copy domainl policysetl mgmtl standard verexist=14 verdel=14 retextra=14 retonly=14 dest=backuppool def copy domainl policysetl mgmtl standard t=a retver=30 dest=archivepool assign defmgmt domainl policysetl mgmtl validate policyset domainl policysetl activate policyset domainl policysetl question: how do I verify that archive copygroup was set properly? When do q cop f=d I do not information about the archive copygroup
differences in work with file between HSM and TSM for Space Management
Hi, may someone tells - is any differences between TSM HSM (for Windows) and TSM for Space Management (for Unix) in work with files/filesystems? Well, may I test how application interact with HSM stub-files in windows environment and interpret that in Unix that will be work (approximately :) )same? Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru
SANergy or SAN? some incomprehension in work.
Good day all. A little overview about my test site. This configuration was made for testing work of SANergy. I have 2 vmware machines on VMware vCenter Server 4 - Linux (CentOS3) and Windows 2003. To both servers was connected disk on SAN. Win2003 server is SANergy MDC, disk is exported ftom it (E:\) as nfs disk, Linux server is SANergy host, the exported disk is connected to it (as /E mountpoint) and it is installed TSM Server v 5.5 and TSM Client on it. For testing I maked backups to TSM Server from the exported disk /E. Testing was performed for 4 steps: when SANergy active and fused volume /E and when all is turned off. For backup I used large file (700mb) and heaps of small files (5 files on 8 kb) separately. Each test I did few times (7-8 times) At the result i've got strange (for me) results. Expected: When SANergy work (MDC is running and volume on host is fused) all data go over SAN. Unexpected: transfer's speed of large file was almost identical (in both cases, avg 2,22 mb/s when sanergy turned off and 2,29 when it's on), meanwhile transfer's speed of small files differs in 2 times. Results of the this testing have shaken my representations about work of network SAN :) As a result there was a question - why so has occurred? Is it SANergy configuration or something with SAN and vmware infrastructure? and in what way need to fish for? :) Thanks a lot for possible advices :) Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru
TSM for Space Management
Hi, In overview of TSM for Space Management at IBM site tells: When used in conjunction with the IBM General Parallel File System (GPFS), files managed by Tivoli Storage Manager for Space Management can be quickly moved from one storage pool (e.g. fast RAID) to another storage pool (e.g. slower SATA disks) while the filename will remain the same including its directory and filesystem name May anyone tell about such solution? where may i read about it? Is it possible use this solution if i need that all data was transfered over SAN? thanks a lot for answers. Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru
how HSM (Linux) works?
Hi, Can anyone explain HSM works. What it use for connections with tsm server and transmitting data? As I understand all options for hsm are declaring in BA client dsm.sys file. So, do I right understand that HSM uses Backup-archive client features for transfering data to server and return without BA Client API functions? Or HSM do this by themself? And hidden question is - Will HSM correctly work, if BA client works as need or i need test it separately? Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru
SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS)
Hi, I try configure HSM and SANergy on linux. And i couldn't install SANergy MDC on CentOS. First i tried install all on CentOS 4 (2.6.9-78). In IBM documentation i found than MDC works with linux kernel 2.6 only if filesystem EXT3 type. But HSM needs gpfs filesystem =(. So I decided install another linux system CentOS 3 (it has kernel version 2.4.21-50.EL) and there install MDC. But installation writes that : The SANergy MDC will not be installed. This kernel is not supported. Only the client will be installed. what may it need else? or what is my mistake? may be there are more simple ways to make HSM with SANergy? Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru
Re: SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS)
Hi, I read about gpfs possibilities and would be happy use only it :) But it's more complex. I need make three-level storage system (fc disks-fata disks-tape). First level (fc-disk pool) contains user's data. Obsolescent data must migrate to second level (fata-disk pool), and then (if needed) to tapes. All data must be transmitted over SAN. For all systems data-flow will be transparent, and by user request data must return to first level stg pool. How i see that solution. HSM decides transparent data migration task. TSM fo SAN can write only to libraries, so SANergy helps transfer data to disks (from fc-disks to fata disks and backwards). And at end TSM for SAN is responsible for transmitting data to tapes (if need send it from client) and back. But i don't know - will this work? :) In fact, intend using AIX (HACMP) for TSM server and Client systems. As i know SANergy may works well on AIX. :) But now, I have only linux and windows systems on ESX preparing demo-solution, and also all issues and problems connected with change of platform :). Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru Remco Post r.p...@plcs.nl Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 19.05.2009 13:30 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS) Hi, I think you'll learn that GPFS provides everything SANergy does, plus reliability and some more neat features. I don't think you'll actually need the SANergy MDC to do what you want to do. I have a very strong opinion on SANergy, and that is that you don't want to use it, not even if your life depended on it (and if your life does depend on sanergy, boy, you're in trouble ;-)). Anyway, we might be better able to help you if you'd tell us what your final goal (in terms of functionality) is. On 19 mei 2009, at 11:01, Gennadiy Khramov wrote: Hi, I try configure HSM and SANergy on linux. And i couldn't install SANergy MDC on CentOS. First i tried install all on CentOS 4 (2.6.9-78). In IBM documentation i found than MDC works with linux kernel 2.6 only if filesystem EXT3 type. But HSM needs gpfs filesystem =(. So I decided install another linux system CentOS 3 (it has kernel version 2.4.21-50.EL) and there install MDC. But installation writes that : The SANergy MDC will not be installed. This kernel is not supported. Only the client will be installed. what may it need else? or what is my mistake? may be there are more simple ways to make HSM with SANergy? Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru -- Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards Remco Post r.p...@plcs.nl +31 6 24821 622
Re: SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS)
Yes i found that tsm lan-free 5.5 woks with gpfs. But in real model gpfs wouldn't be used, that's why i looking for another ways. Well, files not so small for transfering over TCP/IP, but consumer needs fast access for recently migrated data. So he determined such conditions and set task and I solve it. Though decision of this problem interesting per se. I've tested that SANergy works with TSM BA Client well (who would doubt :) ), but my chief dosen't sure that HSM will works also fine. Do I correctly understand, that HSM uses TSM BA Client functions for transfer migration data (all options for hsm declaring in clients dsm.sys)? Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru Remco Post r.p...@plcs.nl Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 19.05.2009 15:20 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS) You are aware that with TSM version 6.1 Lan-free is also formally supported on GPFS? There was no code-change, just a formal support statement, so you can get this to work with 5.5 as well As for HSM, I'd think that either requiests are so small that you don't mind using TCP/IP or so large that you don't mind writing directly to tape. On 19 mei 2009, at 12:59, Gennadiy Khramov wrote: Hi, I read about gpfs possibilities and would be happy use only it :) But it's more complex. I need make three-level storage system (fc disks-fata disks-tape). First level (fc-disk pool) contains user's data. Obsolescent data must migrate to second level (fata-disk pool), and then (if needed) to tapes. All data must be transmitted over SAN. For all systems data-flow will be transparent, and by user request data must return to first level stg pool. How i see that solution. HSM decides transparent data migration task. TSM fo SAN can write only to libraries, so SANergy helps transfer data to disks (from fc-disks to fata disks and backwards). And at end TSM for SAN is responsible for transmitting data to tapes (if need send it from client) and back. But i don't know - will this work? :) In fact, intend using AIX (HACMP) for TSM server and Client systems. As i know SANergy may works well on AIX. :) But now, I have only linux and windows systems on ESX preparing demo-solution, and also all issues and problems connected with change of platform :). Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru Remco Post r.p...@plcs.nl Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 19.05.2009 13:30 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS) Hi, I think you'll learn that GPFS provides everything SANergy does, plus reliability and some more neat features. I don't think you'll actually need the SANergy MDC to do what you want to do. I have a very strong opinion on SANergy, and that is that you don't want to use it, not even if your life depended on it (and if your life does depend on sanergy, boy, you're in trouble ;-)). Anyway, we might be better able to help you if you'd tell us what your final goal (in terms of functionality) is. On 19 mei 2009, at 11:01, Gennadiy Khramov wrote: Hi, I try configure HSM and SANergy on linux. And i couldn't install SANergy MDC on CentOS. First i tried install all on CentOS 4 (2.6.9-78). In IBM documentation i found than MDC works with linux kernel 2.6 only if filesystem EXT3 type. But HSM needs gpfs filesystem =(. So I decided install another linux system CentOS 3 (it has kernel version 2.4.21-50.EL) and there install MDC. But installation writes that : The SANergy MDC will not be installed. This kernel is not supported. Only the client will be installed. what may it need else? or what is my mistake? may be there are more simple ways to make HSM with SANergy? Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru -- Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards Remco Post r.p...@plcs.nl +31 6 24821 622 -- Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards Remco Post r.p...@plcs.nl +31 6 24821 622
Re: SV: TSM and FileNet P8 integration
How may affect HSM using on FileNet? Will FileNet work correctly with 'stubs', i.e. wouldn't problems if FileNet acquire file which was migrated? And other question is CM8 may work with tape library? Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru Daniel Sparrman daniel.sparr...@exist.se Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 24.02.2009 20:23 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject [ADSM-L] SV: TSM and FileNet P8 integration Hi What you are trying to accomplish is indeed complex. First of all, filenet doesnt use blobs, so you wont be gaining any performance since you will be transporting alot of files over the san. If you still want to perform san transfers, id suggest using the hsm client in conjunction with the storage agent. Not really sure how filenet will react to hsm managed files since i never saw a P8 solution like this. Another solution would be to move your repository to CM8 in conjunction with IICE. Regards Daniel Sent from my Sony Ericsson XPERIA™ X1. - Ursprungligt meddelande - Från: Gennadiy Khramov gkhra...@computel.ru Skickat: den 24 februari 2009 17:44 Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Ämne: TSM and FileNet P8 integration Hi all. Is anyone who may tell about making three-level storage system (fc-fata-tape). How TSM FileNet integrates, and what needs for correct working this systems. Can FileNet independently control data-flow in storage hierarchy? I badly understand how they work and which system responsible for controlling storage and data. How TSM interacts with FileNet? As we think we need TSM EE, TSM for SAN, TSM for Space Management and Tivoli Sanergy. (tsm for san and sanergy - as data must be transmitted over SAN). and for all systems data-flow will be transparent. But I don't know how usage of HSM affects for working FileNet. And may be we too complicate all system? Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru
Re: SV: TSM and FileNet P8 integration
Hi, For san transfers with hsm we decide to use storage agent and sanergy. Sanergy can transfer necessary dataover san. I've just looked rebook IBM Enterprise Content Management and System Storage Solutions: Working Together and there were described that P8 can somehow interact whith TSM. Sensitive issue for us - it's managing data in storage hierarchy. Can CM8 IICE manage data by age themself? (possible it's be better way) And another question - how they manage hardware (disks and tapes)? they have own features or use tsm functions? If I right understand (from documentation), P8 can transfer data over san. Is it right? May be you advise where I may read about CM8 IICE and how it's implement? Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru Daniel Sparrman daniel.sparr...@exist.se Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 24.02.2009 20:23 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject [ADSM-L] SV: TSM and FileNet P8 integration Hi What you are trying to accomplish is indeed complex. First of all, filenet doesnt use blobs, so you wont be gaining any performance since you will be transporting alot of files over the san. If you still want to perform san transfers, id suggest using the hsm client in conjunction with the storage agent. Not really sure how filenet will react to hsm managed files since i never saw a P8 solution like this. Another solution would be to move your repository to CM8 in conjunction with IICE. Regards Daniel Sent from my Sony Ericsson XPERIA™ X1. - Ursprungligt meddelande - Från: Gennadiy Khramov gkhra...@computel.ru Skickat: den 24 februari 2009 17:44 Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Ämne: TSM and FileNet P8 integration Hi all. Is anyone who may tell about making three-level storage system (fc-fata-tape). How TSM FileNet integrates, and what needs for correct working this systems. Can FileNet independently control data-flow in storage hierarchy? I badly understand how they work and which system responsible for controlling storage and data. How TSM interacts with FileNet? As we think we need TSM EE, TSM for SAN, TSM for Space Management and Tivoli Sanergy. (tsm for san and sanergy - as data must be transmitted over SAN). and for all systems data-flow will be transparent. But I don't know how usage of HSM affects for working FileNet. And may be we too complicate all system? Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru
TSM and FileNet P8 integration
Hi all. Is anyone who may tell about making three-level storage system (fc-fata-tape). How TSM FileNet integrates, and what needs for correct working this systems. Can FileNet independently control data-flow in storage hierarchy? I badly understand how they work and which system responsible for controlling storage and data. How TSM interacts with FileNet? As we think we need TSM EE, TSM for SAN, TSM for Space Management and Tivoli Sanergy. (tsm for san and sanergy - as data must be transmitted over SAN). and for all systems data-flow will be transparent. But I don't know how usage of HSM affects for working FileNet. And may be we too complicate all system? Best Regards, Khramov Gennadiy gkhra...@computel.ru
