Re: 3590 Partitioning

2003-02-01 Thread Seay, Paul
This is an OS support and boot issue.  HP has been slow to support open SAN.
This ability has only been available on AIX for a little while.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Northrop Grumman Information Technology
757-688-8180


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Is it even possible to boot from a fibre-attached tape drive? At DR tests
with a HPUX servers, it wasn't possible to use the Ignite tape in
fibre-attached tape drive. A SCSI-attached drive was required to boot from.

Kurt

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From: Steve Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:39 PM
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Subject: 3590 Partitioning


HI All,

This is  a 3590 question  rather than TSM as such, but this is the best
forum for it.


I need to take system images of several AIX boxes each week to SAN
Attached 3590E drives in my 3494. It seems like overkill to devote a
whole 3590 tape to each image as they will only be a few gig each.

I stumbled across some doc which implies that a 3590 tape can be
partitioned into smaller segments which can then be used independently.
(see items 36 and 38 on the tapeutil menu).  However, this is old doc,
and I assume the feature is from the early days of 3590 when 10GB was
an enormous amount of storage.

Has anyone used this partitioning feature? in what circumstances? Are
there any gotchas?

Thanks

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia.




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Re: 3590 Partitioning

2003-01-28 Thread Cook, Dwight E
I hadn't thought of that but in looking at my old GC35-0154-02 IBM SCSI Tape
Drive, Medium Changer,  Library Device Drivers (installation  user's
guide) I do see where the write option of tapeutil allows you to write a
file.

# backup ~myfile.tar~ to tape
tapeutil -f/dev/rmt0 write -s myfile.tar
can then read with
# restore ~myfile.tar~ from tape
tapeutil -f/dev/rmt0 read -d myfile.tar
all sorts of useful stuff around chapter 10 (tape subcommands on pages
89-92) which is where the above examples came from.

Dang-it Steve, now I'm going to have to play around with creating a tape
validation script since I see the wtest  rtest commands... oh well, this
old dog might as well learn a new trick or two...

Dwight


-Original Message-
From: Steve Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 5:39 PM
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Subject: 3590 Partitioning


HI All,

This is  a 3590 question  rather than TSM as such, but this is the best
forum for it.


I need to take system images of several AIX boxes each week to SAN Attached
3590E drives in my 3494.
It seems like overkill to devote a whole 3590 tape to each image as they
will only be a few gig each.

I stumbled across some doc which implies that a 3590 tape can be partitioned
into smaller segments which can then be used independently. (see items 36
and 38 on the tapeutil menu).  However, this is old doc, and I assume the
feature is from the early days of 3590 when 10GB was an enormous amount of
storage.

Has anyone used this partitioning feature? in what circumstances?
Are there any gotchas?

Thanks

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia.




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Re: 3590 Partitioning

2003-01-28 Thread Kauffman, Tom
Steve, a more important question (assuming these are mksysb or sysback
images) -- can you boot and restore from these partitions? At D/R, will you
have a good way to tell (a) which tape has the backups, and (b) which
partition is system X?

I feel your pain on using an entire tape for a couple of gig -- to the point
that all my AIX systems now have an internal 4 mm DDS drive used ONLY for
mksysb. Even at $2500 (US) per system, I didn't have much trouble selling
this to management. We have a 3584 with LTO drives for the TSM library (and
no SAN yet, but it is on the way this year).

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

-Original Message-
From: Steve Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 3590 Partitioning


HI All,

This is  a 3590 question  rather than TSM as such, but this is the best
forum for it.


I need to take system images of several AIX boxes each week to SAN Attached
3590E drives in my 3494.
It seems like overkill to devote a whole 3590 tape to each image as they
will only be a few gig each.

I stumbled across some doc which implies that a 3590 tape can be partitioned
into smaller segments which can then be used independently. (see items 36
and 38 on the tapeutil menu).  However, this is old doc, and I assume the
feature is from the early days of 3590 when 10GB was an enormous amount of
storage.

Has anyone used this partitioning feature? in what circumstances?
Are there any gotchas?

Thanks

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia.




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Re: 3590 Partitioning

2003-01-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is it even possible to boot from a fibre-attached tape drive? At DR tests with a HPUX 
servers, it wasn't possible to use the Ignite tape in fibre-attached tape drive. A 
SCSI-attached drive was required to boot from.

Kurt

-Original Message-
From: Steve Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 3590 Partitioning


HI All,

This is  a 3590 question  rather than TSM as such, but this is the best
forum for it.


I need to take system images of several AIX boxes each week to SAN Attached
3590E drives in my 3494.
It seems like overkill to devote a whole 3590 tape to each image as they
will only be a few gig each.

I stumbled across some doc which implies that a 3590 tape can be partitioned
into smaller segments which can then be used independently. (see items 36
and 38 on the tapeutil menu).  However, this is old doc, and I assume the
feature is from the early days of 3590 when 10GB was an enormous amount of
storage.

Has anyone used this partitioning feature? in what circumstances?
Are there any gotchas?

Thanks

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia.




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3590 Partitioning

2003-01-27 Thread Steve Harris
HI All,

This is  a 3590 question  rather than TSM as such, but this is the best forum for it.


I need to take system images of several AIX boxes each week to SAN Attached 3590E 
drives in my 3494.
It seems like overkill to devote a whole 3590 tape to each image as they  will only be 
a few gig each.

I stumbled across some doc which implies that a 3590 tape can be partitioned into 
smaller segments which can then be used independently. (see items 36 and 38 on the 
tapeutil menu).  However, this is old doc, and I assume the feature is from the early 
days of 3590 when 10GB was an enormous amount of storage.

Has anyone used this partitioning feature? in what circumstances?
Are there any gotchas?

Thanks

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia.




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