Re: 3590 Partitioning
This is an OS support and boot issue. HP has been slow to support open SAN. This ability has only been available on AIX for a little while. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Northrop Grumman Information Technology 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3590 Partitioning Is it even possible to boot from a fibre-attached tape drive? At DR tests with a HPUX servers, it wasn't possible to use the Ignite tape in fibre-attached tape drive. A SCSI-attached drive was required to boot from. Kurt -Original Message- From: Steve Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3590 Partitioning HI All, This is a 3590 question rather than TSM as such, but this is the best forum for it. I need to take system images of several AIX boxes each week to SAN Attached 3590E drives in my 3494. It seems like overkill to devote a whole 3590 tape to each image as they will only be a few gig each. I stumbled across some doc which implies that a 3590 tape can be partitioned into smaller segments which can then be used independently. (see items 36 and 38 on the tapeutil menu). However, this is old doc, and I assume the feature is from the early days of 3590 when 10GB was an enormous amount of storage. Has anyone used this partitioning feature? in what circumstances? Are there any gotchas? Thanks Steve Harris AIX and TSM Admin Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia. ** This e-mail, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this e-mail is prohibited. It may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this e-mail in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone or by return e-mail. You should also delete this e-mail message and destroy any hard copies produced. **
Re: 3590 Partitioning
I hadn't thought of that but in looking at my old GC35-0154-02 IBM SCSI Tape Drive, Medium Changer, Library Device Drivers (installation user's guide) I do see where the write option of tapeutil allows you to write a file. # backup ~myfile.tar~ to tape tapeutil -f/dev/rmt0 write -s myfile.tar can then read with # restore ~myfile.tar~ from tape tapeutil -f/dev/rmt0 read -d myfile.tar all sorts of useful stuff around chapter 10 (tape subcommands on pages 89-92) which is where the above examples came from. Dang-it Steve, now I'm going to have to play around with creating a tape validation script since I see the wtest rtest commands... oh well, this old dog might as well learn a new trick or two... Dwight -Original Message- From: Steve Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 5:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3590 Partitioning HI All, This is a 3590 question rather than TSM as such, but this is the best forum for it. I need to take system images of several AIX boxes each week to SAN Attached 3590E drives in my 3494. It seems like overkill to devote a whole 3590 tape to each image as they will only be a few gig each. I stumbled across some doc which implies that a 3590 tape can be partitioned into smaller segments which can then be used independently. (see items 36 and 38 on the tapeutil menu). However, this is old doc, and I assume the feature is from the early days of 3590 when 10GB was an enormous amount of storage. Has anyone used this partitioning feature? in what circumstances? Are there any gotchas? Thanks Steve Harris AIX and TSM Admin Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia. ** This e-mail, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this e-mail is prohibited. It may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this e-mail in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone or by return e-mail. You should also delete this e-mail message and destroy any hard copies produced. **
Re: 3590 Partitioning
Steve, a more important question (assuming these are mksysb or sysback images) -- can you boot and restore from these partitions? At D/R, will you have a good way to tell (a) which tape has the backups, and (b) which partition is system X? I feel your pain on using an entire tape for a couple of gig -- to the point that all my AIX systems now have an internal 4 mm DDS drive used ONLY for mksysb. Even at $2500 (US) per system, I didn't have much trouble selling this to management. We have a 3584 with LTO drives for the TSM library (and no SAN yet, but it is on the way this year). Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: Steve Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3590 Partitioning HI All, This is a 3590 question rather than TSM as such, but this is the best forum for it. I need to take system images of several AIX boxes each week to SAN Attached 3590E drives in my 3494. It seems like overkill to devote a whole 3590 tape to each image as they will only be a few gig each. I stumbled across some doc which implies that a 3590 tape can be partitioned into smaller segments which can then be used independently. (see items 36 and 38 on the tapeutil menu). However, this is old doc, and I assume the feature is from the early days of 3590 when 10GB was an enormous amount of storage. Has anyone used this partitioning feature? in what circumstances? Are there any gotchas? Thanks Steve Harris AIX and TSM Admin Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia. ** This e-mail, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this e-mail is prohibited. It may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this e-mail in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone or by return e-mail. You should also delete this e-mail message and destroy any hard copies produced. **
Re: 3590 Partitioning
Is it even possible to boot from a fibre-attached tape drive? At DR tests with a HPUX servers, it wasn't possible to use the Ignite tape in fibre-attached tape drive. A SCSI-attached drive was required to boot from. Kurt -Original Message- From: Steve Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3590 Partitioning HI All, This is a 3590 question rather than TSM as such, but this is the best forum for it. I need to take system images of several AIX boxes each week to SAN Attached 3590E drives in my 3494. It seems like overkill to devote a whole 3590 tape to each image as they will only be a few gig each. I stumbled across some doc which implies that a 3590 tape can be partitioned into smaller segments which can then be used independently. (see items 36 and 38 on the tapeutil menu). However, this is old doc, and I assume the feature is from the early days of 3590 when 10GB was an enormous amount of storage. Has anyone used this partitioning feature? in what circumstances? Are there any gotchas? Thanks Steve Harris AIX and TSM Admin Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia. ** This e-mail, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this e-mail is prohibited. It may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this e-mail in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone or by return e-mail. You should also delete this e-mail message and destroy any hard copies produced. **
3590 Partitioning
HI All, This is a 3590 question rather than TSM as such, but this is the best forum for it. I need to take system images of several AIX boxes each week to SAN Attached 3590E drives in my 3494. It seems like overkill to devote a whole 3590 tape to each image as they will only be a few gig each. I stumbled across some doc which implies that a 3590 tape can be partitioned into smaller segments which can then be used independently. (see items 36 and 38 on the tapeutil menu). However, this is old doc, and I assume the feature is from the early days of 3590 when 10GB was an enormous amount of storage. Has anyone used this partitioning feature? in what circumstances? Are there any gotchas? Thanks Steve Harris AIX and TSM Admin Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia. ** This e-mail, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this e-mail is prohibited. It may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this e-mail in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone or by return e-mail. You should also delete this e-mail message and destroy any hard copies produced. **