Re: HELP!! TIPS on freeing up library slots

2007-12-03 Thread Bob Levad
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I used the overflow location once with success when I was in this same
situation.  Just long enough to put in some scratch tapes and move data.
I wouldn't recommend it for normal occasions though.

Johnny Lea  CNE
Data Center Manager
Division of Information Systems
University of MS Medical Center
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 Nicholas Rodolfich [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/27/07 9:13 AM 
Hi All,

Thanks for your help!!


I have TSm 5.3.5 on AIX 5.3.5 using an IBM 3584 w/16 LTO drives. I have run
out of slots in the library and can't seem to get enough scratch volumes in
to get any decent move data commands flowing based on pct_reclaim values.
Does anyone have any ideas on how I could consolidate some volumes
quickly?




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HELP!! TIPS on freeing up library slots

2007-11-27 Thread Nicholas Rodolfich
Hi All,

Thanks for your help!!


I have TSm 5.3.5 on AIX 5.3.5 using an IBM 3584 w/16 LTO drives. I have
run out of slots in the library and can't seem to get enough scratch
volumes in to get any decent move data commands flowing based on
pct_reclaim values.  Does anyone have any ideas on how I could
consolidate some volumes quickly?




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Re: HELP!! TIPS on freeing up library slots

2007-11-27 Thread Andy Huebner
Look for filling volumes.  Sometimes I find a pool has more filling
volumes than I think it should have.

Andy Huebner

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Subject: [ADSM-L] HELP!! TIPS on freeing up library slots

Hi All,

Thanks for your help!!


I have TSm 5.3.5 on AIX 5.3.5 using an IBM 3584 w/16 LTO drives. I have
run out of slots in the library and can't seem to get enough scratch
volumes in to get any decent move data commands flowing based on
pct_reclaim values.  Does anyone have any ideas on how I could
consolidate some volumes quickly?




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Re: HELP!! TIPS on freeing up library slots

2007-11-27 Thread David Longo
One way is to use  query media and move media.

If you have more than one onsite tape pool, most likely at least
one is not used as often.  Q medai can show list of tapes in a pool
not accessed in more than x number of days.

Then Move Media moves those tapes out of library.  That's
what these 2 commands were designed for.

Trick is, if one of those tapes is needed for a restore or reclaimation,
need to have OPS watch for messages or setup pages, etc.
so OPS knows when a tape is needed.

David Longo

 Nicholas Rodolfich [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/27/2007 10:13 AM 
Hi All,

Thanks for your help!!


I have TSm 5.3.5 on AIX 5.3.5 using an IBM 3584 w/16 LTO drives. I have
run out of slots in the library and can't seem to get enough scratch
volumes in to get any decent move data commands flowing based on
pct_reclaim values.  Does anyone have any ideas on how I could
consolidate some volumes quickly?




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Re: HELP!! TIPS on freeing up library slots

2007-11-27 Thread Richard Sims

The fastest scratch provisioning in a situation like that is to
delete any Pending volumes.

Where you are constrained for tape space to reclaim volumes within
the library, consider performing a Move Data to the upper disk
storage pool in the hierarchy.  (You can always temporarily add a
spare disk to the top of the hierarchy, if you don't already have one
in the hierarchy, and leave the copy group target as tape,
unchanged.)  You can later let the disk-held data drain down into the
tape pool when you have the tape space.

   Richard Sims


Re: HELP!! TIPS on freeing up library slots

2007-11-27 Thread Jim Young
This will give you a list of tapes under twenty percent utilized from all pools

select volume_name, stgpool_name,pct_utilized, status from volumes -
where pct_utilized  20 and status='FILLING' -
order by pct_utilized, stgpool_name, volume_name

After that, do a  MOVE DATA VOLUMENAME  to help it along a bit.

Does anyone know whay TSM has this issue with keeping lots of 'filling' volumes?

Cheers

Jim Young 
IT Operations Coordinator (Hull)
Cattles plc

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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] HELP!! TIPS on freeing up library slots


 The fastest scratch provisioning in a situation like that is to
 delete any Pending volumes.
 
 Where you are constrained for tape space to reclaim volumes within
 the library, consider performing a Move Data to the upper disk
 storage pool in the hierarchy.  (You can always temporarily add a
 spare disk to the top of the hierarchy, if you don't already have one
 in the hierarchy, and leave the copy group target as tape,
 unchanged.)  You can later let the disk-held data drain down into the
 tape pool when you have the tape space.
 
 Richard Sims
 
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Re: HELP!! TIPS on freeing up library slots

2007-11-27 Thread Dan Foster
Hot Diggety! Jim Young was rumored to have written:
 This will give you a list of tapes under twenty percent utilized from
 all pools

 select volume_name, stgpool_name,pct_utilized, status from volumes -
 where pct_utilized  20 and status='FILLING' - order by pct_utilized,
 stgpool_name, volume_name

 After that, do a  MOVE DATA VOLUMENAME  to help it along a bit.

 Does anyone know whay TSM has this issue with keeping lots of
 'filling' volumes?

Could be a collocated setup? That's one way you get lots of individual
tapes, each filling (relatively) slowly?

-Dan


Re: HELP!! TIPS on freeing up library slots

2007-11-27 Thread Richard Sims

On Nov 27, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Jim Young wrote:


Does anyone know whay TSM has this issue with keeping lots of
'filling' volumes?


This is an old chestnut issue.
See Tape leak in http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.QuickFacts
for general info on it.

   Richard Sims


Re: HELP!! TIPS on freeing up library slots

2007-11-27 Thread Taylor, David
Are you running backups, directly to tape, in the same storage pool
where you are seeing the filled volumes?  

I have an issue, with my SQL DB backups, that results in the same
situation.  Because of their size, they go directly to tape.  Due to the
available backup window, I am forced to back them all up at roughly the
same time.  This generally leads to a each backup going to a separate
tape.

To help rectify the situation, I have a little ksh script that
consolidates the filled volumes.

HTH

David
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On Nov 27, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Jim Young wrote:

 Does anyone know whay TSM has this issue with keeping lots of
 'filling' volumes?

This is an old chestnut issue.
See Tape leak in http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.QuickFacts
for general info on it.

Richard Sims

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Re: HELP!! TIPS on freeing up library slots

2007-11-27 Thread Johnny Lea
I used the overflow location once with success when I was in this same 
situation.  Just long enough to put in some scratch tapes and move data.
I wouldn't recommend it for normal occasions though.

Johnny Lea  CNE
Data Center Manager
Division of Information Systems
University of MS Medical Center
601-984-6398
fax 601-815-3222
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Nicholas Rodolfich [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/27/07 9:13 AM 
Hi All,

Thanks for your help!!


I have TSm 5.3.5 on AIX 5.3.5 using an IBM 3584 w/16 LTO drives. I have
run out of slots in the library and can't seem to get enough scratch
volumes in to get any decent move data commands flowing based on
pct_reclaim values.  Does anyone have any ideas on how I could
consolidate some volumes quickly?




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