Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-18 Thread Robert L. Rippy
Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at
least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool
probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with
Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed.

Thanks,
Robert Rippy




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strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object
'/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed
12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible

12/17/02   15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible



In activity log:

ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node
SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to
satisfy the request.


There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online.
The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of
scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts
backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file
its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty,
online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a
minute or 2 just abort.

any ideas?



Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-18 Thread Conko, Steven
the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not fill
up. any other suggestions?

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From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM
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Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at
least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool
probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with
Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed.

Thanks,
Robert Rippy




From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM

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strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object
'/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed
12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible

12/17/02   15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible



In activity log:

ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node
SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to
satisfy the request.


There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online.
The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of
scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts
backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file
its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty,
online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a
minute or 2 just abort.

any ideas?



Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-18 Thread Conko, Steven
yes, its at ML 10.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:12 PM
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You didn't mention the Maint Level of AIX 4.3.3.  If you have less
than ML 10, then I would upgrade to that as one step.

David Longo

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/17/02 05:15PM 
How strange.. I just went through something similar.  Running on AIX
4.3.3,
TSM 4.2.1.7.  What are you running?
The short answer was to reboot the AIX operating system, and
everything
started working fine.. The long answer follows (well, not really an
answer,
just my situation, and what I tried to resolve it).

Server
AIX 4.3.3
TSM 4.2.1.7

Nodes
W2K
Storage Agent 4.2.1.7
BA Client 4.2.1.32
TDP for SQL 2.2
SQL 2000
and

WinNT4
Storage Agent 4.2.1.7
BA Client 4.2.1.15
TDP for SQL 1.1
SQL 6.5

Relevant TSM server storage as follows...
diskpool_sql_meta (no next storage pool intended only for the
*/.../meta/.../* info)
diskpool_sql (next storage pool is ltotape_sql, intended for smaller
databases)
ltotape_sql (collocation of FILESPACE since /stripes=2 backups are
kept
here)

The SQL 2000 server had been having issues over the last few months
where
backups to ltotape_sql with /stripes=2 of a 265GB database would fail
with
a server media mount no possible error, but /stripes=1 differential
backups would back up fine.  Oddly, increasing the Maximum Mount Points
for
the node by one would allow the /stripes=2 backup to succeed, but the
next
time a /stripes=2 backup would run, it would fail (until I increased
the
MMP again).  I had 5 drives, all free and unused and 7 MMP for the
node
when... this new wrinkle occurred.

The SQL 6.5 server started having problems backing up certain
databases:
the smaller system databases; master, model, msdb, pubs, tempdb, with
and
error message of server media mount not possible.  All the DBs on
this
server have a destination of ltotape_sql.  Like you, plenty of room in
the
storage pool, plenty of scratch.

Called support

Got level one.. told him a few things.. he didn't even want to try it..
and
immediately escalated to level two.  While I waited for a call back
from
level two, the following occurred.

I noticed that there are some databases in diskpool_sql that haven't
migrated to ltotape_sql.  Kicking off a migration gets a similar error
message media mount not possible, which, oddly, is the same message I
got
from the storage agent when backing up tapes to ltotape_sql.

I carefully detailed what it took to migrate those 3 files from
diskpool_sql to ltotape_sql, which is a whole other chapter by itself,
involving changing maxscratch up and down, moving data, and a few
other
hoops, and I was unable to get some tapes to move with a move data
command (tapes that had only one master or msdb or tempdb type database
on
them).

Level two calls back.  I go through the entire situation, including
the
fact of the Max Mount Point having to change every time I did I
/stirpes=2
backup (I wasn't sure if that was a related issue or not).  She is
baffled,
and wants to think it over and search databases etc to see what she
can
come up with.  Within 30 mins, she calls back and asks me to reboot the
TSM
server's OS (uptime reported a whopping 82 days), just to see what
would
happen.  I do.  Migrations go.  Backups /stripes=1 go.  Backups
/stripes=2
go (even with MMP set back to 4 for that node, instead of 7 ( with only
5
tape drives remember).  This was Friday.

Sunday night, the TSM server did something odd (haven't reported this
to
TSM support yet).  It just stopped.  It showed link status on the
fiber
cards, and network cards, but you couldn't ping it, the server console
wouldn't wake up, nothing.  Even the display on the front was dark, but
the
power light was on steady like it was operational, not flashing like
it
would be if you did a proper shutdown.  I reset it Monday morning
when I
found it that way, and then had to do a clean shutdown and power on to
get
the fiber cards to see the library correctly.  Very weird.

So, I am taking Monday morning (yesterday) as the start time to see
how
long it takes until I have to increase my MMP on the one node just to
get a
/stripes=2 backup.

The saga continues...






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strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E

Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-18 Thread Robert L. Rippy
I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM
seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and
redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM
but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem.

Thanks,
Rob.



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the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not
fill
up. any other suggestions?

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at
least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool
probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with
Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed.

Thanks,
Robert Rippy




From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM

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Subject:  Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object
'/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed
12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible

12/17/02   15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible



In activity log:

ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node
SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to
satisfy the request.


There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online.
The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of
scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts
backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file
its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty,
online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a
minute or 2 just abort.

any ideas?



Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-18 Thread Conko, Steven
The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are
three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the
same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the same
spot with the media mount not possible.

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM
seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and
redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM
but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem.

Thanks,
Rob.



From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM

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the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not
fill
up. any other suggestions?

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at
least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool
probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with
Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed.

Thanks,
Robert Rippy




From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM

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Subject:  Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object
'/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed
12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible

12/17/02   15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible



In activity log:

ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node
SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to
satisfy the request.


There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online.
The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of
scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts
backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file
its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty,
online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a
minute or 2 just abort.

any ideas?



Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-18 Thread John Naylor
Does it fail on the same file or directory every time, and does that file or
directory attract
a management class which is pointing to a different storage pool




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The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are
three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the
same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the same
spot with the media mount not possible.

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM
seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and
redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM
but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem.

Thanks,
Rob.



From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM

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the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not
fill
up. any other suggestions?

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at
least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool
probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with
Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed.

Thanks,
Robert Rippy




From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM

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Subject:  Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object
'/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed
12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible

12/17/02   15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible



In activity log:

ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node
SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to
satisfy the request.


There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online.
The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of
scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts
backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file
its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty,
online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a
minute or 2 just abort.

any ideas?








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Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-18 Thread Conko, Steven
yes, it is always failing on the same file(s) in the same directory. how
would it attract a different management class? this is using the default
management class and we dont have any includes or excludes set up.

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Does it fail on the same file or directory every time, and does that file or
directory attract
a management class which is pointing to a different storage pool




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The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are
three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the
same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the same
spot with the media mount not possible.

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM
seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and
redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM
but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem.

Thanks,
Rob.



From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM

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the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not
fill
up. any other suggestions?

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at
least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool
probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with
Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed.

Thanks,
Robert Rippy




From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM

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Subject:  Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object
'/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed
12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible

12/17/02   15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible



In activity log:

ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node
SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to
satisfy the request.


There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online.
The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of
scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts
backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file
its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty,
online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a
minute or 2 just abort.

any ideas?








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Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-18 Thread Kent Monthei
On the client, do a 'dsmc show opt' and a 'dsmc q inclexcl' to check for
stray management-class bindings that are different from your other working
clients.  If all your clients don't belong to a common domain, then check
the server for missing copygroup definitions, incorrect target pool,
target pool with no associated volume, and/or policysets that haven't been
'activate'd.





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The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are
three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the
same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the
same
spot with the media mount not possible.

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM
seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and
redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM
but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem.

Thanks,
Rob.



From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM

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the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not
fill
up. any other suggestions?

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at
least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool
probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with
Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed.

Thanks,
Robert Rippy




From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM

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strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object
'/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed
12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible

12/17/02   15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible



In activity log:

ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node
SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to
satisfy the request.


There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online.
The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty
of
scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it
starts
backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the
file
its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty,
online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a
minute or 2 just abort.

any ideas?



Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-18 Thread Conko, Steven
everything checks out so far.

now what i have done is a specific backup of just the directory it was
failing on... dsmc incr /tibco/logs/ -subdir=yes

that ran fine and when i ran the system wide backup again it got further and
failed on another subdirectory of /tibco. i then did a backup of THAT
directory and it was successful. then the system wide backup got further but
failed in ANOTHER /tibco directory. so right now im piecemealing it
together. i cant understand why it keeps failing on these subdirectories.
some /tibco/... dirs work. some dont.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


On the client, do a 'dsmc show opt' and a 'dsmc q inclexcl' to check for
stray management-class bindings that are different from your other working
clients.  If all your clients don't belong to a common domain, then check
the server for missing copygroup definitions, incorrect target pool,
target pool with no associated volume, and/or policysets that haven't been
'activate'd.





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Subject:Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are
three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the
same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the
same
spot with the media mount not possible.

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM
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Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM
seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and
redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM
but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem.

Thanks,
Rob.



From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM

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the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not
fill
up. any other suggestions?

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Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM
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Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at
least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool
probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with
Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed.

Thanks,
Robert Rippy




From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM

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strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object
'/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed
12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible

12/17/02   15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible



In activity log:

ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node
SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to
satisfy the request.


There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online.
The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty
of
scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it
starts
backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the
file
its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty,
online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a
minute or 2 just abort.

any ideas?



Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-18 Thread John Naylor
So are you saying that the management class that the directories are atracting
is pointing them
to the same disk storage pool which you said had plenty of space.




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Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-18 Thread Conko, Steven
yes, everything is going to the disk storage pool that has pleny of space.
these systems dont use multiple management classes.

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So are you saying that the management class that the directories are
atracting
is pointing them
to the same disk storage pool which you said had plenty of space.




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Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-18 Thread Conko, Steven
well, by using the piecemeal method of successfully individually backing up
everything that failed i have finally been able to run a successfull system
wide backup. strange. is it possible with a 1GB filesize limit on the
diskpool that several files added up to more than 1 gb? would that cause a
problem?

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Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:59 AM
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On the client, do a 'dsmc show opt' and a 'dsmc q inclexcl' to check for
stray management-class bindings that are different from your other working
clients.  If all your clients don't belong to a common domain, then check
the server for missing copygroup definitions, incorrect target pool,
target pool with no associated volume, and/or policysets that haven't been
'activate'd.





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The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are
three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the
same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the
same
spot with the media mount not possible.

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM
seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and
redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM
but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem.

Thanks,
Rob.



From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM

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the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not
fill
up. any other suggestions?

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM
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Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at
least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool
probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with
Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed.

Thanks,
Robert Rippy




From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM

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strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object
'/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed
12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible

12/17/02   15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible



In activity log:

ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node
SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to
satisfy the request.


There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online.
The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty
of
scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it
starts
backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the
file
its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty,
online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a
minute or 2 just abort.

any ideas?



Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-18 Thread Kent Monthei
On the TSM Server, what does 'query occupancy' report ?  In what pools are
your backups of this client vs others ultimately landing ?





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well, by using the piecemeal method of successfully individually backing
up
everything that failed i have finally been able to run a successfull
system
wide backup. strange. is it possible with a 1GB filesize limit on the
diskpool that several files added up to more than 1 gb? would that cause a
problem?

-Original Message-
From: Kent Monthei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


On the client, do a 'dsmc show opt' and a 'dsmc q inclexcl' to check for
stray management-class bindings that are different from your other working
clients.  If all your clients don't belong to a common domain, then check
the server for missing copygroup definitions, incorrect target pool,
target pool with no associated volume, and/or policysets that haven't been
'activate'd.





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possible

The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are
three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the
same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the
same
spot with the media mount not possible.

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM
seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and
redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM
but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem.

Thanks,
Rob.



From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 09:03 AM

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the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not
fill
up. any other suggestions?

-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible


Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at
least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool
probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with
Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed.

Thanks,
Robert Rippy




From: Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/17/2002 04:19 PM

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Subject:  Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object
'/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed
12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible

12/17/02   15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible



In activity log:

ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node
SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to
satisfy the request.


There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online.
The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty
of
scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it
starts
backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the
file
its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty,
online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a
minute or 2 just abort.

any ideas?



Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-17 Thread Conko, Steven
strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object
'/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed
12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible

12/17/02   15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible



In activity log:

ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node
SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to
satisfy the request.


There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online.
The backup is going to a 18GB diskpool that is 8% full, there are plenty of
scratch tapes, i set max mount points to 2. keep mount point=yes. it starts
backing up the system then just fails... always at the same point. the file
its trying to back up does not exceed the max size. all drives are empty,
online. diskpool is online. i see the sessions start and then just after a
minute or 2 just abort.

any ideas?



Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-17 Thread Todd Lundstedt
How strange.. I just went through something similar.  Running on AIX 4.3.3,
TSM 4.2.1.7.  What are you running?
The short answer was to reboot the AIX operating system, and everything
started working fine.. The long answer follows (well, not really an answer,
just my situation, and what I tried to resolve it).

Server
AIX 4.3.3
TSM 4.2.1.7

Nodes
W2K
Storage Agent 4.2.1.7
BA Client 4.2.1.32
TDP for SQL 2.2
SQL 2000
and

WinNT4
Storage Agent 4.2.1.7
BA Client 4.2.1.15
TDP for SQL 1.1
SQL 6.5

Relevant TSM server storage as follows...
diskpool_sql_meta (no next storage pool intended only for the
*/.../meta/.../* info)
diskpool_sql (next storage pool is ltotape_sql, intended for smaller
databases)
ltotape_sql (collocation of FILESPACE since /stripes=2 backups are kept
here)

The SQL 2000 server had been having issues over the last few months where
backups to ltotape_sql with /stripes=2 of a 265GB database would fail with
a server media mount no possible error, but /stripes=1 differential
backups would back up fine.  Oddly, increasing the Maximum Mount Points for
the node by one would allow the /stripes=2 backup to succeed, but the next
time a /stripes=2 backup would run, it would fail (until I increased the
MMP again).  I had 5 drives, all free and unused and 7 MMP for the node
when... this new wrinkle occurred.

The SQL 6.5 server started having problems backing up certain databases:
the smaller system databases; master, model, msdb, pubs, tempdb, with and
error message of server media mount not possible.  All the DBs on this
server have a destination of ltotape_sql.  Like you, plenty of room in the
storage pool, plenty of scratch.

Called support

Got level one.. told him a few things.. he didn't even want to try it.. and
immediately escalated to level two.  While I waited for a call back from
level two, the following occurred.

I noticed that there are some databases in diskpool_sql that haven't
migrated to ltotape_sql.  Kicking off a migration gets a similar error
message media mount not possible, which, oddly, is the same message I got
from the storage agent when backing up tapes to ltotape_sql.

I carefully detailed what it took to migrate those 3 files from
diskpool_sql to ltotape_sql, which is a whole other chapter by itself,
involving changing maxscratch up and down, moving data, and a few other
hoops, and I was unable to get some tapes to move with a move data
command (tapes that had only one master or msdb or tempdb type database on
them).

Level two calls back.  I go through the entire situation, including the
fact of the Max Mount Point having to change every time I did I /stirpes=2
backup (I wasn't sure if that was a related issue or not).  She is baffled,
and wants to think it over and search databases etc to see what she can
come up with.  Within 30 mins, she calls back and asks me to reboot the TSM
server's OS (uptime reported a whopping 82 days), just to see what would
happen.  I do.  Migrations go.  Backups /stripes=1 go.  Backups /stripes=2
go (even with MMP set back to 4 for that node, instead of 7 ( with only 5
tape drives remember).  This was Friday.

Sunday night, the TSM server did something odd (haven't reported this to
TSM support yet).  It just stopped.  It showed link status on the fiber
cards, and network cards, but you couldn't ping it, the server console
wouldn't wake up, nothing.  Even the display on the front was dark, but the
power light was on steady like it was operational, not flashing like it
would be if you did a proper shutdown.  I reset it Monday morning when I
found it that way, and then had to do a clean shutdown and power on to get
the fiber cards to see the library correctly.  Very weird.

So, I am taking Monday morning (yesterday) as the start time to see how
long it takes until I have to increase my MMP on the one node just to get a
/stripes=2 backup.

The saga continues...






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strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object
'/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed
12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible

12/17/02   15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible



In activity log:

ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node
SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to
satisfy the request.


There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6

Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-17 Thread Richard Sims
ANR0535W Transaction failed for session 1356 for node
SY00113 (AIX) - insufficient mount points available to
satisfy the request.

There is NOTHING else running on this TSM server. All 6 drives are online.

Nothing running can itself be an indication of things suspicious...
It may be that TSM tried to acquire one drive after another, but none of
them could be had - which could well be a problem with the library or
network access to it.  You haven't told us your hardware type or what
diagnostic steps you have taken.  An obvious first step, in your AIX system,
is 'errpt -a | less' and look for odd stuff.  Another obvious step is to
perform a manual query or action against the library, as with the 'mtlib'
command or equivalent for your library type, to get status and, if that
works, to try mounting a tape.  Also, try pinging the library from the
TSM server system.  Do 'SHOW LIBRARY' in TSM and check what it thinks the
status of the library and drives are.  Use 'lsdev' and the like to check
the status of the drives.  Stuff like that, to uncover what's awry.

  Richard Sims, BU



Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible

2002-12-17 Thread David Longo
You didn't mention the Maint Level of AIX 4.3.3.  If you have less
than ML 10, then I would upgrade to that as one step.

David Longo

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How strange.. I just went through something similar.  Running on AIX
4.3.3,
TSM 4.2.1.7.  What are you running?
The short answer was to reboot the AIX operating system, and
everything
started working fine.. The long answer follows (well, not really an
answer,
just my situation, and what I tried to resolve it).

Server
AIX 4.3.3
TSM 4.2.1.7

Nodes
W2K
Storage Agent 4.2.1.7
BA Client 4.2.1.32
TDP for SQL 2.2
SQL 2000
and

WinNT4
Storage Agent 4.2.1.7
BA Client 4.2.1.15
TDP for SQL 1.1
SQL 6.5

Relevant TSM server storage as follows...
diskpool_sql_meta (no next storage pool intended only for the
*/.../meta/.../* info)
diskpool_sql (next storage pool is ltotape_sql, intended for smaller
databases)
ltotape_sql (collocation of FILESPACE since /stripes=2 backups are
kept
here)

The SQL 2000 server had been having issues over the last few months
where
backups to ltotape_sql with /stripes=2 of a 265GB database would fail
with
a server media mount no possible error, but /stripes=1 differential
backups would back up fine.  Oddly, increasing the Maximum Mount Points
for
the node by one would allow the /stripes=2 backup to succeed, but the
next
time a /stripes=2 backup would run, it would fail (until I increased
the
MMP again).  I had 5 drives, all free and unused and 7 MMP for the
node
when... this new wrinkle occurred.

The SQL 6.5 server started having problems backing up certain
databases:
the smaller system databases; master, model, msdb, pubs, tempdb, with
and
error message of server media mount not possible.  All the DBs on
this
server have a destination of ltotape_sql.  Like you, plenty of room in
the
storage pool, plenty of scratch.

Called support

Got level one.. told him a few things.. he didn't even want to try it..
and
immediately escalated to level two.  While I waited for a call back
from
level two, the following occurred.

I noticed that there are some databases in diskpool_sql that haven't
migrated to ltotape_sql.  Kicking off a migration gets a similar error
message media mount not possible, which, oddly, is the same message I
got
from the storage agent when backing up tapes to ltotape_sql.

I carefully detailed what it took to migrate those 3 files from
diskpool_sql to ltotape_sql, which is a whole other chapter by itself,
involving changing maxscratch up and down, moving data, and a few
other
hoops, and I was unable to get some tapes to move with a move data
command (tapes that had only one master or msdb or tempdb type database
on
them).

Level two calls back.  I go through the entire situation, including
the
fact of the Max Mount Point having to change every time I did I
/stirpes=2
backup (I wasn't sure if that was a related issue or not).  She is
baffled,
and wants to think it over and search databases etc to see what she
can
come up with.  Within 30 mins, she calls back and asks me to reboot the
TSM
server's OS (uptime reported a whopping 82 days), just to see what
would
happen.  I do.  Migrations go.  Backups /stripes=1 go.  Backups
/stripes=2
go (even with MMP set back to 4 for that node, instead of 7 ( with only
5
tape drives remember).  This was Friday.

Sunday night, the TSM server did something odd (haven't reported this
to
TSM support yet).  It just stopped.  It showed link status on the
fiber
cards, and network cards, but you couldn't ping it, the server console
wouldn't wake up, nothing.  Even the display on the front was dark, but
the
power light was on steady like it was operational, not flashing like
it
would be if you did a proper shutdown.  I reset it Monday morning
when I
found it that way, and then had to do a clean shutdown and power on to
get
the fiber cards to see the library correctly.  Very weird.

So, I am taking Monday morning (yesterday) as the start time to see
how
long it takes until I have to increase my MMP on the one node just to
get a
/stripes=2 backup.

The saga continues...






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strange one... and ive looked at everything i can think of.

In client dsmerror.log:

12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1228E Sending of object
'/tibco/logs/hawk/log/Hawk4.log' failed
12/17/02   15:01:54 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible

12/17/02   15:01:57 ANS1312E Server media mount not possible



In activity log:

ANR0535W Transaction