Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-20 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi Efim and All who helped 

Quick update on this : it appeared that some export policy rule (i.e." 
-superuser sys" ) had not been properly set on our Netapp, thus refraining TSM 
client to reach some files. Once this corrected, I was able to get successful 
snapshot backups done.
 
@Efim : thanks for your advice, I'll take it in consideration ! Just have to 
discuss with our storage team what exactly they are expecting from me ;-)

Cheers.

Arnaud

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Efim
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 6:39 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, 
making use of NFS mounts

Arnaud,

Can you explain why you are copying the .snapshot folder during incremental 
filesystem backup with snapdiff?
It contains snapshots created by netapp and SP for this FS. 
I believe that it should be excluded from copying in your backup job.

Efim


> 19 сент. 2018 г., в 18:28, PAC Brion Arnaud  
> написал(а):
> 
> Hi Robert,
> 
> Thanks a lot for appreciated feedback, unfortunately even when using TSM own 
> snapshots the problem still exists :
> 
> root@xx:~ # dsmc i /Airwarder -snapdiff -diffsnapshot=create 
> -snapdiffhttps -optfile=$OPTPATH >/tmp/snapshot_Airwarder.log
> 
> root@ xx:~ # more /tmp/snapshot_Airwarder.log
> IBM Spectrum Protect
> Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
>  Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0 
>  Client date/time: 09/19/2018 17:17:41
> (c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All Rights 
> Reserved. 
> 
> Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
> Session established with server xx: Linux/ppc64le
>  Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
>  Server date/time: 09/19/2018 17:17:42  Last access: 09/18/2018 12:12:17
> 
> 
> Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'
> 
> Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
>Management Filer Host/IP Address : xx
>Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr 04 
> 13:07:06
> UTC 2018
>Storage VM Name  : ch1ns100
>Storage VM Host/IP Address   : xx
>Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
>Login User   : tsm-backup-user
>Transport: HTTPS
> 
> Performing a Full Incremental Backup of volume '/Airwarder'
> Creating Base Snapshot.
> Using Base Snapshot 'TSM_CH135BA2689781857_AIRWARDER' with timestamp 
> 09/19/2018 
> 17:17:43
> ANS4007E Error processing 
> '/Airwarder/.snapshot/TSM_CH135BA2689781857_AIRWARDER/
> acrimport_ref/ch': access to the object is denied
> ANS4007E Error processing 
> '/Airwarder/.snapshot/TSM_CH135BA2689781857_AIRWARDER/
> acrimport_test/ch': access to the object is denied
> ANS1898I * Processed   500 files *
> ANS4007E Error processing 
> '/Airwarder/.snapshot/TSM_CH135BA2689781857_AIRWARDER/
> 
> I'm lost here ...
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Arnaud
> 
> 
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> Panalpina Management Ltd., Basle, Switzerland,
> CIT Department Viadukstrasse 42, P.O. Box 4002 Basel/CH
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> -Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of 
> Robert Talda
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:48 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, 
> making use of NFS mounts
> 
> Brion:
>  Here at Cornell, we have a TSM client on a Linux system backing up NFS 
> shares via NFS mounts and snapdiff differentials - and have been doing so for 
> years.
> 
>  First, the gory details:
> - For TSM
> TSM Client Version 7, Release 1, Level 6.0 (*red faced, thought I had 
> upgraded to SP 8.1.2.0 months ago*)
> Run

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-19 Thread Efim
Arnaud,

Can you explain why you are copying the .snapshot folder during incremental 
filesystem backup with snapdiff?
It contains snapshots created by netapp and SP for this FS. 
I believe that it should be excluded from copying in your backup job.

Efim


> 19 сент. 2018 г., в 18:28, PAC Brion Arnaud  
> написал(а):
> 
> Hi Robert,
> 
> Thanks a lot for appreciated feedback, unfortunately even when using TSM own 
> snapshots the problem still exists :
> 
> root@xx:~ # dsmc i /Airwarder -snapdiff -diffsnapshot=create 
> -snapdiffhttps -optfile=$OPTPATH >/tmp/snapshot_Airwarder.log
> 
> root@ xx:~ # more /tmp/snapshot_Airwarder.log
> IBM Spectrum Protect
> Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
>  Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0 
>  Client date/time: 09/19/2018 17:17:41
> (c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All Rights 
> Reserved. 
> 
> Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
> Session established with server xx: Linux/ppc64le
>  Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
>  Server date/time: 09/19/2018 17:17:42  Last access: 09/18/2018 12:12:17
> 
> 
> Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'
> 
> Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
>Management Filer Host/IP Address : xx
>Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr 04 
> 13:07:06
> UTC 2018
>Storage VM Name  : ch1ns100
>Storage VM Host/IP Address   : xx
>Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
>Login User   : tsm-backup-user
>Transport: HTTPS
> 
> Performing a Full Incremental Backup of volume '/Airwarder'
> Creating Base Snapshot.
> Using Base Snapshot 'TSM_CH135BA2689781857_AIRWARDER' with timestamp 
> 09/19/2018 
> 17:17:43
> ANS4007E Error processing 
> '/Airwarder/.snapshot/TSM_CH135BA2689781857_AIRWARDER/
> acrimport_ref/ch': access to the object is denied
> ANS4007E Error processing 
> '/Airwarder/.snapshot/TSM_CH135BA2689781857_AIRWARDER/
> acrimport_test/ch': access to the object is denied
> ANS1898I * Processed   500 files *
> ANS4007E Error processing 
> '/Airwarder/.snapshot/TSM_CH135BA2689781857_AIRWARDER/
> 
> I'm lost here ...
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Arnaud
> 
> 
> Backup and Recovery Systems Administrator
> Panalpina Management Ltd., Basle, Switzerland,
> CIT Department Viadukstrasse 42, P.O. Box 4002 Basel/CH
> Phone: +41 (61) 226 11 11, FAX: +41 (61) 226 17 01
> Direct: +41 (61) 226 19 78
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> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of 
> Robert Talda
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:48 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, 
> making use of NFS mounts
> 
> Brion:
>  Here at Cornell, we have a TSM client on a Linux system backing up NFS 
> shares via NFS mounts and snapdiff differentials - and have been doing so for 
> years.
> 
>  First, the gory details:
> - For TSM
> TSM Client Version 7, Release 1, Level 6.0 (*red faced, thought I had 
> upgraded to SP 8.1.2.0 months ago*)
> Running on CentOS Linux release 7.5.1804 (kernel 3.10.0-862.2.3.el7.x86_64)
> Accessing TSM Server for Linux Version 7, Release 1, Level 7.200
> - For NetApp
> Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P6
> 
>  We aren’t seeing your issue, and I suspect I know why.  We are telling the 
> TSM client to create its own snapshots - and not use the snapshots being 
> created hourly (or daily or weekly even) by the team managing the Netapp - 
> said snapshots being equivalent to the ones you are trying to take advantage 
> of in your backups.
> 
>  That is, the relevant part of the daily backup schedule looks like:
> Schedule Name: DAILY.INCR.NFS.SNAPDIFF
>   

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-19 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi Robert,

Thanks a lot for appreciated feedback, unfortunately even when using TSM own 
snapshots the problem still exists :

root@xx:~ # dsmc i /Airwarder -snapdiff -diffsnapshot=create -snapdiffhttps 
-optfile=$OPTPATH >/tmp/snapshot_Airwarder.log

root@ xx:~ # more /tmp/snapshot_Airwarder.log
IBM Spectrum Protect
Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
  Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0 
  Client date/time: 09/19/2018 17:17:41
(c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All Rights Reserved. 

Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
Session established with server xx: Linux/ppc64le
  Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
  Server date/time: 09/19/2018 17:17:42  Last access: 09/18/2018 12:12:17


Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'

Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
Management Filer Host/IP Address : xx
Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr 04 13:07:06
 UTC 2018
Storage VM Name  : ch1ns100
Storage VM Host/IP Address   : xx
Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
Login User   : tsm-backup-user
Transport: HTTPS

Performing a Full Incremental Backup of volume '/Airwarder'
Creating Base Snapshot.
Using Base Snapshot 'TSM_CH135BA2689781857_AIRWARDER' with timestamp 09/19/2018 
17:17:43
ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/TSM_CH135BA2689781857_AIRWARDER/
acrimport_ref/ch': access to the object is denied
ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/TSM_CH135BA2689781857_AIRWARDER/
acrimport_test/ch': access to the object is denied
ANS1898I * Processed   500 files *
ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/TSM_CH135BA2689781857_AIRWARDER/

I'm lost here ...

Cheers.

Arnaud


Backup and Recovery Systems Administrator
Panalpina Management Ltd., Basle, Switzerland,
CIT Department Viadukstrasse 42, P.O. Box 4002 Basel/CH
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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Robert 
Talda
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:48 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, 
making use of NFS mounts

Brion:
  Here at Cornell, we have a TSM client on a Linux system backing up NFS shares 
via NFS mounts and snapdiff differentials - and have been doing so for years.

  First, the gory details:
- For TSM
TSM Client Version 7, Release 1, Level 6.0 (*red faced, thought I had upgraded 
to SP 8.1.2.0 months ago*)
Running on CentOS Linux release 7.5.1804 (kernel 3.10.0-862.2.3.el7.x86_64)
Accessing TSM Server for Linux Version 7, Release 1, Level 7.200
- For NetApp
Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P6
 
  We aren’t seeing your issue, and I suspect I know why.  We are telling the 
TSM client to create its own snapshots - and not use the snapshots being 
created hourly (or daily or weekly even) by the team managing the Netapp - said 
snapshots being equivalent to the ones you are trying to take advantage of in 
your backups.

  That is, the relevant part of the daily backup schedule looks like:
 Schedule Name: DAILY.INCR.NFS.SNAPDIFF
   Description: Daily SnapDiff Incremental
Action: Incremental
 Subaction: 
   Options: -snapdiff -diffsnapshot=create -snapdiffhttps


  During a backup, then, the following type of information is written to the 
dsmsched.log:
09/13/2018 00:38:08 Incremental by snapshot difference of volume 
'/nas-backup/vol/cit-pea1-test'
09/13/2018 00:38:10 ANS2328I Using Snapshot Differential Change Log.
09/13/2018 00:38:10
Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
Management Filer Host/IP Address : ccc-cdot01.cit.cornell.edu
Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P6: Thu Jun 14 
20:21:25 UTC 2018
Storage VM Name  : cit-sfshared05
Storage VM Host/IP Address   : cit-sfshared05-backup.files.cornell.edu
Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
Login U

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-19 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Del,

Thanks for your clarifications which are perfectly making sense. 
The way we operate our shop (users are always using the machine's node name as 
user ID) just made me forget that any admin might be granted authority on some 
other node, in our case the datamover ...

Cheers.
Arnaud


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Del 
Hoobler
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:16 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, 
making use of NFS mounts

Hi Arnaud,

>> ... there's still the limitation that this GUI will be usable only once 
logged on the machine hosting the Spectrum Protect client


What do you mean by "that machine"? 

The Backup-Archive client is not in the data path for an NDMP backup or 
restore. The data path is between the NetApp filer and the server's tape 
library (or more generally speaking the storage pools).  The 
Backup-Archive client is reading metadata from the server to present 
information to the end user. 

This means that the user can log in to any machine (Windows/AIX/Solaris 
x86) that has a Backup-Archive client. When the user logs into the 
Spectrum Protect server (at launch of the Backup-Archive client) they are 
providing an admin id that is not tied to a specific machine.


Del





"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 09/18/2018 
07:57:56 AM:

> From: PAC Brion Arnaud 
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Date: 09/18/2018 07:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
> machine, making use of  NFS mounts
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> 
> Hi Del,
> 
> Thanks for the information, which I got as well thru other channels 
> (IBM support), but there's still the limitation that this GUI will 
> be usable only once logged on the machine hosting the Spectrum Protect 
client.
> This means that I will be forced to grant some of my colleagues 
> (which were previously doing the restores on their own)  specific 
> logging rights on that machine. Was not the case before ...
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Arnaud
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Del Hoobler
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:57 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
> machine, making use of NFS mounts
> 
> Hi Arnaud,
> 
> Not related to SnapDiff ... but just some info on NDMP and B/A Client...
> 
> In Spectrum Protect BA client 8.1.6 that GAs this coming Friday (21 
> September) you will be able to use the native Java GUI to handle NDMP 
> backups/restores.
> 
> 
> Del
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 09/18/2018 
> 06:20:52 AM:
> 
> > From: PAC Brion Arnaud 
> > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > Date: 09/18/2018 06:21 AM
> > Subject: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
> > machine, making use of  NFS mounts
> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > Following to IBM's decision to withdraw the web GUI in the latest 
> > versions of their clients (thus making NDMP hardly usable), as well 
> > as to the renewal of our NAS infrastructure (now using Netapp), I'm 
> > trying to implement netapp snapdiffs in our shop.
> > 
> > So far we succeeded in defining necessary user and roles on the 
> > Netapp, as well as to setup the TSM client in order to interact with
> > our filer, but I'm now facing an issue where some files cannot be 
> > backed up, apparently due to access rights.
> > 
> > Here an extract of our backup log :
> > 
> > IBM Spectrum Protect
> > Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
> >   Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0
> >   Client date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28
> > (c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All 
> RightsReserved.
> > 
> > Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
> > Session established with server XXX: Linux/ppc64le
> >   Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
> >   Server date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28  Last access: 09/18/2018 
> 10:00:37
> > 
> > 
> > Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'
> > 
> > Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
> > Management Filer Host/IP Address : 
> > Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr
> > 04 13:07:06 UTC 2018
> > Storage VM Name  : xxx
> > Storage VM Host/IP Address   :

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread Robert Talda
Brion:
  Here at Cornell, we have a TSM client on a Linux system backing up NFS shares 
via NFS mounts and snapdiff differentials - and have been doing so for years.

  First, the gory details:
- For TSM
TSM Client Version 7, Release 1, Level 6.0 (*red faced, thought I had upgraded 
to SP 8.1.2.0 months ago*)
Running on CentOS Linux release 7.5.1804 (kernel 3.10.0-862.2.3.el7.x86_64)
Accessing TSM Server for Linux Version 7, Release 1, Level 7.200
- For NetApp
Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P6
 
  We aren’t seeing your issue, and I suspect I know why.  We are telling the 
TSM client to create its own snapshots - and not use the snapshots being 
created hourly (or daily or weekly even) by the team managing the Netapp - said 
snapshots being equivalent to the ones you are trying to take advantage of in 
your backups.

  That is, the relevant part of the daily backup schedule looks like:
 Schedule Name: DAILY.INCR.NFS.SNAPDIFF
   Description: Daily SnapDiff Incremental
Action: Incremental
 Subaction: 
   Options: -snapdiff -diffsnapshot=create -snapdiffhttps


  During a backup, then, the following type of information is written to the 
dsmsched.log:
09/13/2018 00:38:08 Incremental by snapshot difference of volume 
'/nas-backup/vol/cit-pea1-test'
09/13/2018 00:38:10 ANS2328I Using Snapshot Differential Change Log.
09/13/2018 00:38:10
Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
Management Filer Host/IP Address : ccc-cdot01.cit.cornell.edu
Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P6: Thu Jun 14 
20:21:25 UTC 2018
Storage VM Name  : cit-sfshared05
Storage VM Host/IP Address   : cit-sfshared05-backup.files.cornell.edu
Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
Login User   : tsmbackup
Transport: HTTPS

09/13/2018 00:38:10 Performing a Snapshot Differential Backup of volume 
'/nas-backup/vol/cit-pea1-test'
09/13/2018 00:38:10 Creating Diff Snapshot.
09/13/2018 00:38:10 Using Base Snapshot 
'TSM_SANT5B9759FC1AB6_CIT_PEA1_TEST_VOL' with timestamp 09/11/2018 06:00:28
09/13/2018 00:38:10 Using Diff Snapshot 
'TSM_SANT5B99E9B24F814_CIT_PEA1_TEST_VOL' with timestamp 09/13/2018 04:38:10

Then, on the next backup (48 hours later thanks to a large amount of data to 
backup on 9/13), the Diff Snapshot becomes the base:
09/15/2018 01:29:22 ANS2328I Using Snapshot Differential Change Log.
09/15/2018 01:29:22 
Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
Management Filer Host/IP Address : ccc-cdot01.cit.cornell.edu
Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P6: Thu Jun 14 
20:21:25 UTC 2018
Storage VM Name  : cit-sfshared05
Storage VM Host/IP Address   : cit-sfshared05-backup.files.cornell.edu
Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
Login User   : tsmbackup
Transport: HTTPS

09/15/2018 01:29:22 Performing a Snapshot Differential Backup of volume 
'/nas-backup/vol/cit-pea1-test'
09/15/2018 01:29:22 Creating Diff Snapshot.
09/15/2018 01:29:22 Using Base Snapshot 
'TSM_SANT5B99E9B24F814_CIT_PEA1_TEST_VOL' with timestamp 09/13/2018 04:38:10
09/15/2018 01:29:22 Using Diff Snapshot 
'TSM_SANT5B9C98B1A15B2_CIT_PEA1_TEST_VOL' with timestamp 09/15/2018 05:29:21

I think that consistency is what is missing in your approach - I suspect that 
there are intervening snapshots with information about files that have been 
deleted or changed that are not part of what the TSM client is seeing.

I will add that our NetApp team is very happy with this approach.  The TSM 
client has been very efficient in its management of the snapshots, and in those 
rare cases when it doesn’t, the snapshots are easy to identify and clean up.

FWIW,
Bob


Robert Talda
EZ-Backup Systems Engineer
Cornell University
+1 607-255-8280
r...@cornell.edu


> On Sep 18, 2018, at 8:35 AM, PAC Brion Arnaud  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tommaso,
> 
> The backup command I'm using (dsmc i /Airwarder -snapdiff -snapdiffhttps  
> -diffsnapshotname="daily.*" -diffsnapshot=latest -useexistingbase 
> -optfile=dsm_netapp.opt)  includes the "useexistingbase" statement.
> Based on my understanding of the documentation, this means that the S.P. 
> client will not trigger the creation of a new snapshot on the Netapp device, 
> but instead, make use of a snapshot that had been created previously by some 
> internal mechanism of the Netapp. 
> Therefore, it seems very unlikely that any process still has a grip on any of 
> the files being part of this snapshot ...
> My humble opinion only of course, I'm waiting on others fellow members of 
> this list feedback !
> 
> In addition to this, I would like to avoid the use of any exclude statement 
> during the backup : I doubt that any of my customers would be very happy to 
> hear that I'm not able to restore some of his precious files 

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread Del Hoobler
Hi Arnaud,

>> ... there's still the limitation that this GUI will be usable only once 
logged on the machine hosting the Spectrum Protect client


What do you mean by "that machine"? 

The Backup-Archive client is not in the data path for an NDMP backup or 
restore. The data path is between the NetApp filer and the server's tape 
library (or more generally speaking the storage pools).  The 
Backup-Archive client is reading metadata from the server to present 
information to the end user. 

This means that the user can log in to any machine (Windows/AIX/Solaris 
x86) that has a Backup-Archive client. When the user logs into the 
Spectrum Protect server (at launch of the Backup-Archive client) they are 
providing an admin id that is not tied to a specific machine.


Del





"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 09/18/2018 
07:57:56 AM:

> From: PAC Brion Arnaud 
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Date: 09/18/2018 07:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
> machine, making use of  NFS mounts
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> 
> Hi Del,
> 
> Thanks for the information, which I got as well thru other channels 
> (IBM support), but there's still the limitation that this GUI will 
> be usable only once logged on the machine hosting the Spectrum Protect 
client.
> This means that I will be forced to grant some of my colleagues 
> (which were previously doing the restores on their own)  specific 
> logging rights on that machine. Was not the case before ...
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Arnaud
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Del Hoobler
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:57 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
> machine, making use of NFS mounts
> 
> Hi Arnaud,
> 
> Not related to SnapDiff ... but just some info on NDMP and B/A Client...
> 
> In Spectrum Protect BA client 8.1.6 that GAs this coming Friday (21 
> September) you will be able to use the native Java GUI to handle NDMP 
> backups/restores.
> 
> 
> Del
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 09/18/2018 
> 06:20:52 AM:
> 
> > From: PAC Brion Arnaud 
> > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > Date: 09/18/2018 06:21 AM
> > Subject: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
> > machine, making use of  NFS mounts
> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > Following to IBM's decision to withdraw the web GUI in the latest 
> > versions of their clients (thus making NDMP hardly usable), as well 
> > as to the renewal of our NAS infrastructure (now using Netapp), I'm 
> > trying to implement netapp snapdiffs in our shop.
> > 
> > So far we succeeded in defining necessary user and roles on the 
> > Netapp, as well as to setup the TSM client in order to interact with
> > our filer, but I'm now facing an issue where some files cannot be 
> > backed up, apparently due to access rights.
> > 
> > Here an extract of our backup log :
> > 
> > IBM Spectrum Protect
> > Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
> >   Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0
> >   Client date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28
> > (c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All 
> RightsReserved.
> > 
> > Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
> > Session established with server XXX: Linux/ppc64le
> >   Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
> >   Server date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28  Last access: 09/18/2018 
> 10:00:37
> > 
> > 
> > Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'
> > 
> > Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
> > Management Filer Host/IP Address : 
> > Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr
> > 04 13:07:06 UTC 2018
> > Storage VM Name  : xxx
> > Storage VM Host/IP Address   : XX
> > Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
> > Login User   : tsm-backup-user
> > Transport: HTTPS
> > 
> > Performing a Full Incremental Backup of volume '/Airwarder'
> > Using Base Snapshot 'vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-
> > bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500' with timestamp 09/18/2018 
10:25:02
> > ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.
> > 7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/
> > acrimport_

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi Tommaso,

The backup command I'm using (dsmc i /Airwarder -snapdiff -snapdiffhttps  
-diffsnapshotname="daily.*" -diffsnapshot=latest -useexistingbase 
-optfile=dsm_netapp.opt)  includes the "useexistingbase" statement.
Based on my understanding of the documentation, this means that the S.P. client 
will not trigger the creation of a new snapshot on the Netapp device, but 
instead, make use of a snapshot that had been created previously by some 
internal mechanism of the Netapp. 
Therefore, it seems very unlikely that any process still has a grip on any of 
the files being part of this snapshot ...
My humble opinion only of course, I'm waiting on others fellow members of this 
list feedback !

In addition to this, I would like to avoid the use of any exclude statement 
during the backup : I doubt that any of my customers would be very happy to 
hear that I'm not able to restore some of his precious files because the 
Spectrum Protect client had limitations ... Such issues never aroused with 
NDMP-based backups !

Cheers.

Arnaud 


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Tommaso Bollini
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:29 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: R: [ADSM-L] Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
machine, making use of NFS mounts

Hello Arnaud, maybe it would be: The NetApp snapshot indicates which files are 
modified on the LUN (for which their backup is triggered); but the 
Backup-Archive client cannot "take" them because they are locked by the 
application.
Perhaps you can solve by inserting the appropiate rules in incl.excl file to 
skip them.


-Messaggio originale-
Da: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] Per conto di PAC 
Brion Arnaud
Inviato: martedì 18 settembre 2018 12:21
A: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Oggetto: [ADSM-L] Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, 
making use of NFS mounts

Hi All,

Following to IBM's decision to withdraw the web GUI in the latest versions of 
their clients (thus making NDMP hardly usable), as well as to the renewal of 
our NAS infrastructure (now using Netapp), I'm trying to implement netapp 
snapdiffs in our shop.

So far we succeeded in defining necessary user and roles on the Netapp, as well 
as to setup the TSM client in order to interact with our filer, but I'm now 
facing an issue where some files cannot be backed up, apparently due to access 
rights.

Here an extract of our backup log :

IBM Spectrum Protect
Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
  Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0
  Client date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28
(c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All Rights Reserved.

Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
Session established with server XXX: Linux/ppc64le
  Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
  Server date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28  Last access: 09/18/2018 10:00:37


Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'

Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
Management Filer Host/IP Address : 
Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr 04 
13:07:06 UTC 2018
Storage VM Name  : xxx
Storage VM Host/IP Address   : XX
Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
Login User   : tsm-backup-user
Transport: HTTPS

Performing a Full Incremental Backup of volume '/Airwarder'
Using Base Snapshot 
'vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500' with 
timestamp 09/18/2018 10:25:02 ANS4007E Error processing 
'/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/acrimport_ref/ch':
 access to the object is denied ANS4007E Error processing 
'/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/acrimport_test/ch':
 access to the object is denied
ANS1898I * Processed   500 files *
Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/ [Sent]
Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/.etc [Sent]

(skipped some lines)

ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/log4j.conf' failed.
ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/log4j.conf': access 
to the object is denied
Normal File-->   309 
/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg  ** Unsuccessful **
ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg' 
failed.
ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg': 
access to the object is denied
Normal File-->   330 
/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak  ** Unsuccessful **
ANS1228E Sending of object 
'/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak' failed.
ANS4007E Error processing 
'/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak': access to the object is 
denied

(skipped some lines)

ANS1802E Incremental backup of '/Airwarder' finished with 90 

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi Del,

Thanks for the information, which I got as well thru other channels (IBM 
support), but there's still the limitation that this GUI will be usable only 
once logged on the machine hosting the Spectrum Protect client.
This means that I will be forced to grant some of my colleagues (which were 
previously doing the restores on their own)  specific logging rights on that 
machine. Was not the case before ...

Cheers.

Arnaud

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Del 
Hoobler
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:57 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, 
making use of NFS mounts

Hi Arnaud,

Not related to SnapDiff ... but just some info on NDMP and B/A Client...

In Spectrum Protect BA client 8.1.6 that GAs this coming Friday (21 
September) you will be able to use the native Java GUI to handle NDMP 
backups/restores.


Del






"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 09/18/2018 
06:20:52 AM:

> From: PAC Brion Arnaud 
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Date: 09/18/2018 06:21 AM
> Subject: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
> machine, making use of  NFS mounts
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Following to IBM's decision to withdraw the web GUI in the latest 
> versions of their clients (thus making NDMP hardly usable), as well 
> as to the renewal of our NAS infrastructure (now using Netapp), I'm 
> trying to implement netapp snapdiffs in our shop.
> 
> So far we succeeded in defining necessary user and roles on the 
> Netapp, as well as to setup the TSM client in order to interact with
> our filer, but I'm now facing an issue where some files cannot be 
> backed up, apparently due to access rights.
> 
> Here an extract of our backup log :
> 
> IBM Spectrum Protect
> Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
>   Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0
>   Client date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28
> (c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All 
RightsReserved.
> 
> Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
> Session established with server XXX: Linux/ppc64le
>   Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
>   Server date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28  Last access: 09/18/2018 
10:00:37
> 
> 
> Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'
> 
> Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
> Management Filer Host/IP Address : 
> Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr
> 04 13:07:06 UTC 2018
> Storage VM Name  : xxx
> Storage VM Host/IP Address   : XX
> Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
> Login User   : tsm-backup-user
> Transport: HTTPS
> 
> Performing a Full Incremental Backup of volume '/Airwarder'
> Using Base Snapshot 'vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-
> bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500' with timestamp 09/18/2018 10:25:02
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.
> 7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/
> acrimport_ref/ch': access to the object is denied
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.
> 7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/
> acrimport_test/ch': access to the object is denied
> ANS1898I * Processed   500 files *
> Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/ [Sent]
> Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/.etc [Sent]
> 
> (skipped some lines)
> 
> ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> log4j.conf' failed.
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> log4j.conf': access to the object is denied
> Normal File-->   309 /Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg  ** Unsuccessful **
> ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg' failed.
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg': access to the object is denied
> Normal File-->   330 /Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg.bak  ** Unsuccessful **
> ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg.bak' failed.
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg.bak': access to the object is denied
> 
> (skipped some lines)
> 
> ANS1802E Incremental backup of '/Airwarder' finished with 90 failure(s)
> 
> 
> Total number of objects inspected:5,881
> Total number of objects backed up:5,791
> Total number of objects updated:  0
> Total number of objects rebound: 

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread Del Hoobler
Hi Arnaud,

Not related to SnapDiff ... but just some info on NDMP and B/A Client...

In Spectrum Protect BA client 8.1.6 that GAs this coming Friday (21 
September) you will be able to use the native Java GUI to handle NDMP 
backups/restores.


Del






"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 09/18/2018 
06:20:52 AM:

> From: PAC Brion Arnaud 
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Date: 09/18/2018 06:21 AM
> Subject: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
> machine, making use of  NFS mounts
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Following to IBM's decision to withdraw the web GUI in the latest 
> versions of their clients (thus making NDMP hardly usable), as well 
> as to the renewal of our NAS infrastructure (now using Netapp), I'm 
> trying to implement netapp snapdiffs in our shop.
> 
> So far we succeeded in defining necessary user and roles on the 
> Netapp, as well as to setup the TSM client in order to interact with
> our filer, but I'm now facing an issue where some files cannot be 
> backed up, apparently due to access rights.
> 
> Here an extract of our backup log :
> 
> IBM Spectrum Protect
> Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
>   Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0
>   Client date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28
> (c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All 
RightsReserved.
> 
> Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
> Session established with server XXX: Linux/ppc64le
>   Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
>   Server date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28  Last access: 09/18/2018 
10:00:37
> 
> 
> Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'
> 
> Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
> Management Filer Host/IP Address : 
> Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr
> 04 13:07:06 UTC 2018
> Storage VM Name  : xxx
> Storage VM Host/IP Address   : XX
> Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
> Login User   : tsm-backup-user
> Transport: HTTPS
> 
> Performing a Full Incremental Backup of volume '/Airwarder'
> Using Base Snapshot 'vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-
> bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500' with timestamp 09/18/2018 10:25:02
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.
> 7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/
> acrimport_ref/ch': access to the object is denied
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.
> 7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/
> acrimport_test/ch': access to the object is denied
> ANS1898I * Processed   500 files *
> Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/ [Sent]
> Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/.etc [Sent]
> 
> (skipped some lines)
> 
> ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> log4j.conf' failed.
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> log4j.conf': access to the object is denied
> Normal File-->   309 /Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg  ** Unsuccessful **
> ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg' failed.
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg': access to the object is denied
> Normal File-->   330 /Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg.bak  ** Unsuccessful **
> ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg.bak' failed.
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg.bak': access to the object is denied
> 
> (skipped some lines)
> 
> ANS1802E Incremental backup of '/Airwarder' finished with 90 failure(s)
> 
> 
> Total number of objects inspected:5,881
> Total number of objects backed up:5,791
> Total number of objects updated:  0
> Total number of objects rebound:  0
> Total number of objects deleted:  0
> Total number of objects expired:  0
> Total number of objects failed:  90
> Total number of objects encrypted:0
> Total number of objects grew: 0
> Total number of retries: 15
> Total number of bytes inspected:   1.27 GB
> Total number of bytes transferred: 1.37 GB
> Data transfer time:   18.61 sec
> Network data transfer rate:   77,367.92 KB/sec
> Aggregate data transfer rate: 36,807.03 KB/sec
> Objects compressed by:0%
> Total data reduction ratio:0.00%
> Elapsed processing time:   00:00:39
> 
> 
> Here, a closer look at some of the files making problems  :
> 
> root@xx:~ # ls -al 
/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak
> -rw-r- 1 root root 330 May  6  2009 /Airwarder/acrimport_ref/
> config/sapConnector.cfg.bak
> 
> 
> root@xx:~ # ls -la