Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
Hi I'm not sure about the pricing but HP have good small libraries. I use an old DLT7000 system that works great. Maybe look at some libraries and then check the TSM site for compatibility. Lawrie -Original Message- From: Raghu S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2002 01:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Non IBM Libarary for TSM Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt
Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
Try comparing the IBM3583, with the same libraries from Dell (can't remember name) and Adic (Scalar100). I don't know, but there could be a few bucks to save. I believe that Adic have quit a few other libraries in their series. You also have Compaqs MSL5026 (very scalable - OEM'ed from Overland), StorageTek L20,L40,80,L180,L700(I have best experience with the larger ones - L180 and up). Back to what's good and not - check Tivolis site for Supported Devices http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/requirements.html and check the libraries/drives mentioned there. Rgds. Geirr Halvorsen -Original Message- From: Raghu S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18. december 2002 12:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Non IBM Libarary for TSM Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt
Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
This is one of the prides of TSM - support for many devices. Better approach (IMO) would be to find a reliable vendor in your area and check their appropriate and attractive products for (I)TSM support. Most of the time it will be supported and if is something brand new few months later it usually becomes also supported. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Raghu S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.12.2002 13:44 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Non IBM Libarary for TSM Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt
Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
IBM OEM's an HP library that IBM calls the 3600, that will use either DLT or LTO. They start at 2 drives/20 slots, and go up to 6 drives/60 slots. They are supported by TSM, but I have no personal experience with them. Regards, -Lloyd On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:14:47 +0530 Raghu S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt -- - Lloyd Dieter- Senior Technology Consultant Registered Linux User 285528 Synergy, Inc. http://www.synergyinc.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main:585-389-1260fax:585-389-1267 -
Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
This HP library sounds very similar to the SUN L20/40/60 Library (Re-badged HP KIT) We have one using DLT and it functions ok. It has also remote management card also so you can administer the library, for the most part, from a web type interface. ADIC Scalars are also supported I think. Lloyd Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18-Dec-2002 14:35 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L cc: Subject:Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM IBM OEM's an HP library that IBM calls the 3600, that will use either DLT or LTO. They start at 2 drives/20 slots, and go up to 6 drives/60 slots. They are supported by TSM, but I have no personal experience with them. Regards, -Lloyd On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:14:47 +0530 Raghu S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt -- - Lloyd Dieter- Senior Technology Consultant Registered Linux User 285528 Synergy, Inc. http://www.synergyinc.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main:585-389-1260fax:585-389-1267 -
Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
Find a reseller who carries Overland Data libraries. The primary source of Overland libraries used to be Compaq, but since the HP/Compaq merger they are obviously going to only selling HP libraries. Overland's libraries scale very well in the midrange and are extremely cost competitive compared to HP, IBM, Adic, StorageTek, etc. They have been selling libraries for a long time and have a good track record and a lot of reference customers who use Tivoli. Dell also sells the smaller Adic libraries for a better price than IBM does, so you might consider them as an alternative to IBM. Eric -Original Message- From: Raghu S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Non IBM Libarary for TSM Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt
Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM
Good idea.Many thanks to all. Regards Raghu. Halvorsen GeirrTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gulbrand cc: gehal@WMDATASubject: Re: Non IBM Libarary for TSM .COM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 12/18/2002 05:36 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Try comparing the IBM3583, with the same libraries from Dell (can't remember name) and Adic (Scalar100). I don't know, but there could be a few bucks to save. I believe that Adic have quit a few other libraries in their series. You also have Compaqs MSL5026 (very scalable - OEM'ed from Overland), StorageTek L20,L40,80,L180,L700(I have best experience with the larger ones - L180 and up). Back to what's good and not - check Tivolis site for Supported Devices http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/requirements.html and check the libraries/drives mentioned there. Rgds. Geirr Halvorsen -Original Message- From: Raghu S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18. december 2002 12:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Non IBM Libarary for TSM Hi I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with the price of 3583 LTO. ( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar 3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM libraries and corresponding URLs ( Should work with TSM as efficient as IBM libraries and cheaper). Thanks in advance Regards Raghu. Richard Foster Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYDRO.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: timeout value for processes Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 12/18/2002 04:20 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary drive(s). If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to become available. We just run a script which cancels all Reclaim processes, whether they are active, waiting for tape mounts or waiting for drives. Richard Foster Norsk Hydro mountwait parameter in devclass definition regds Raghu Hi all! Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process will be active? Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending for hours until two drive becomes available. Henrik.Wahlstedt
