Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-25 Thread Prather, Wanda
Hi Joe,

Thanks for your response.

You are right, the way the TSM server counts licenses has nothing to do with
what you are required to buy.  In TSM V2 and V3 it did, but in V4 and V5
they changed the buying requirements, but didn't much change the server
code.

I understand your frustration with not getting a straight answer on
licensing.  Last year when we tried to renew our maintenance agreeement, we
got 3 different quotes from 3 different people; lowest was 10K, highest was
30K, middle (the correct one) was 18K.

I work with an IBM Business partner, we sat down and STUDIED the doc
available on the Tivoli Business partner site.  The doc explaining what you
have to buy is there, but many BP's  don't bother to read it or don't
understand it; MANY give you incorrect quotes because they don't understand
that workstations and servers are licensed differently (and many of their
customers back up only servers, so I suspect the question never comes up).

Here is the actual deal for what you are required to buy:

There are 2 TSM server products:  TSM V5 and TSM V5 Extended Edition.  They
have different product numbers.

If you do NOT need DRM, HSM, or Server to Server, and your tape library has
at most 40 slots, you qualify for TSM V5; if not you must buy Extended
Edition.

There is NO charge for a TSM server; you can run as many as you like.  You
are charged based on the number of machines  you back up.  The charge is
higher per client under TSM V5 EE than TSM V5.  The TSM server counts as a
server being backed up.

A CLIENT/WORKSTATION is a computer that provides NO SERVICES to another
computer.  If you have a big machine with 4 processors that is used by an
engineer to do CAD drawings and DOESNT PROVIDE SERVICES to other machines
on your network, that is a WORKSTATION.

If you have a very tiny old machine with 1 processor that is used as a
firewall or print server, that machine is providing services to other
machines, so it counts as a SERVER.

You count the number of CLIENT/WORKSTATIONs you have; each one needs 1
CLIENT/WORKSTATION license.

For your SERVER machines, you count the number of physical processors in all
the machines to get the number of SERVER/PROCESSOR licenses you need.

SO if you have, say, 2 stand-alone graphics boxes and 5 desktop PC's to back
up, you would need 7 CLIENT/WORKSTATION licenses.  The number of processors
in those machines is irrelevant.

If you have 5 servers with 4 processors and 3 servers with 2 processors that
you back up, you would need to buy 26 SERVER/PROCESSOR licenses.  (5*4 +
3*2).

SERVER/PROCESSOR licenses cost more than CLIENT/WORKSTATION licenses; so
IT'S IMPORTANT to get your count correctly.  Many VARS will ask you how
many processors do you have, it's licensed by processor..., but that AIN'T
SO for workstations.  If you are backing up any workstaions, MAKE SURE your
VAR's bid breaks out those two numbers, or you'll be charged too much.

If you have more than 1 TSM node name registered for one of your servers,
that doesn't matter.  You don't have to buy more licenses.

The TDP's have their OWN product numbers.  They are also licensed by the
number of processors in the machines where the TDP is installed.  Each
machine must ALSO be counted in your SERVER/PROCESSOR count for the basic
TSM client, because you have to install the basic client along with the TDP
(to get the API code).

That's it, in terms of paying for client licenses.

And that has nothing to do with the number of client licenses you register
with the REGISTER LICENSE command.  You register one MGSYSLAN license for
each node name you will have defined to TSM.

And as you see from prevous discussions, in V4 IBM stated clearly that you
were not required to have licenses for machines that had not backed up in
over 30 days.  For V5, nobody seems to be sure what the cutoff date is...

Hope that was some help.

Wanda Prather
I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O  -(me)



-Original Message-
From: Joe Crnjanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 6:18 PM
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Subject: RE: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes



Hi Wanda,

I was always confused with whole licensing business. Nobody can give you
straight answer what is server and what is workstation. Even when you talk
to passport advantage you can get different answer which license you need to
buy.

On the top of that I don't understand how TSM counting licenses. In my case
it is different from number of registered nodes and it is different from
number of filespaces.
I ran your query and my oldest client on the list is from March/31/2003. So
maybe you are right. This is about year old. This is one more variable in
whole licensing stuff. Now is even more confusing.

My server: tsm on windows 5.1.8.2

Joe Crnjanski
Infinity Network Solutions Inc.
Phone: 416-235-0931 x26
Fax: 416-235-0265
Web:  www.infinitynetwork.com



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From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday

Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-25 Thread Nancy Reeves
Wanda, THANK YOU so much for that concise and thorough TSM licensing
lesson. We are going through a huge hassle right now. I think my manager
has made contact with someone (finally) who understands the maze of TSM
licensing, but I will definitely pass your email on to him.

Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/25/2004
01:35:04 PM:

 Hi Joe,

 Thanks for your response.

 You are right, the way the TSM server counts licenses has nothing to do
with
 what you are required to buy.  In TSM V2 and V3 it did, but in V4 and V5
 they changed the buying requirements, but didn't much change the server
 code.

 snip of some VERY GOOD STUFF!


Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-23 Thread Prather, Wanda
Sorry to bring this up again, but...

I KNOW that in TSM 4.1, the server behavior was to stop counting the
licenses after 30 days of non-use.  It was documented in the server README
(I think that's where it was), and I verified it on our running systems.

I have not seen it documented anywhere for 5.1 or 5.2; has anyone?

I sat down and checked mine;  I checked the data in the license_details
table against the output of q license, and it APPEARS that my license
manager (TSM  5.1.6.2)  is counting all the clients that have connected in
approx. the last YEAR.  But it's hard for me to be sure since this server
isn't much older than that.

Could some of you please check yours and let me know?  (also what server
version you have)

select license_name,node_name, date(last_used) from license_details order by
3


Thanks
Wanda Prather




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Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 11:04 AM
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Subject: Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes


Nancy,

Sorry to tell you that, but I'm facing the same problem as you, with
nodes being inactive since much more than 30 days, and still using
licenses. I already questioned the list without success :-(


Arnaud Brion

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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Nancy Reeves
Sent: Tuesday, 09 March, 2004 16:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes


So, are you saying that if I had no new node related activity in 30
days, that these 2 numbers would eventually match and be accurate?

That is quite a wrinkle!

Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/09/2004
09:44:48 AM:

 I ran the AUDIT LICENSE command first, then I ran the QUERY LICENSE
 command (and got the 108). I ran QUERY NODES and got 78.
 ...

 I believe that a wrinkle in this is the TSM behavior of maintaining a
 count of license use attempts, regardless of validity.  Query License
 will reflect a count, which may be artificially high.  Supposedly,
 invalid entries in the count will age out after 30 days.

   Richard Sims


Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-10 Thread William F. Colwell
David,

IBM still does charge by node if you say the node is not a server.

It is up to us, the customers, to characterize the machines to be backed up
and then buy the proper number and kind of licenses.

If you say a machine is a single user desktop, even if it has 2 processors and
has more raw power than some of your servers, you need just 1 desktop license which
is about a fifth of the price of a server license.

The TSM pricing model is now function based.  The license to backup a server is more
expensive because the value to you is greater than the value of an end user desktop 
backup.

Hope this helps,

Bill Colwell


At 08:04 AM 3/10/2004, you wrote:
Nancy,

As far as I can tell it no longer matters what the TSM software thinks
you have as far as number of nodes; just tell it you have enough to make
it shut up.

The reason it no longer matters is that IBM no longer charges you by
node but by processor and the TSM software auditing component does not
know about processors.  TSM software auditing is a relict of a simpler
day.

David

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/8/2004 5:30:52 PM 
We are in the process of ordering a TSM upgrade (from 4.1 to 5.1 or
5.2)
and are having pricing issues. I ran a license audit to see what we
are
using now and it showed 108 Managed System for LAN licenses in use
(of
200), but we only have 78 nodes registered. I do not understand the
discrepancy. Can anyone explain it to me?


Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860

--
Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge Ma.


Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-10 Thread David E Ehresman
And none of what you writes makes the TSM software audit of licenses
meaningful.  You have to know OUTSIDE of what TSM can tell who which
nodes are desktops and which are servers and how many processors are in
the server machines.  Then tell TSM uopir are licensed for enough nodes
to make it shut up because there is no longer a meaninful mapping
between what the software considers a license and what IBM marketing
considers a license.

david

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2004 10:23:01 AM 
David,

IBM still does charge by node if you say the node is not a server.

It is up to us, the customers, to characterize the machines to be
backed up
and then buy the proper number and kind of licenses.

If you say a machine is a single user desktop, even if it has 2
processors and
has more raw power than some of your servers, you need just 1 desktop
license which
is about a fifth of the price of a server license.

The TSM pricing model is now function based.  The license to backup a
server is more
expensive because the value to you is greater than the value of an end
user desktop backup.

Hope this helps,

Bill Colwell


At 08:04 AM 3/10/2004, you wrote:
Nancy,

As far as I can tell it no longer matters what the TSM software
thinks
you have as far as number of nodes; just tell it you have enough to
make
it shut up.

The reason it no longer matters is that IBM no longer charges you by
node but by processor and the TSM software auditing component does
not
know about processors.  TSM software auditing is a relict of a
simpler
day.

David

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/8/2004 5:30:52 PM 
We are in the process of ordering a TSM upgrade (from 4.1 to 5.1 or
5.2)
and are having pricing issues. I ran a license audit to see what we
are
using now and it showed 108 Managed System for LAN licenses in use
(of
200), but we only have 78 nodes registered. I do not understand the
discrepancy. Can anyone explain it to me?


Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860

--
Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge Ma.


Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-10 Thread William F. Colwell
David, a little of my history with tsm is in order.

I have been with it since v1 r1.  Back then there wasn't any audit license command or
any other tool to tell me what the usage was.  I asked the salesman how to figure it
out and he had no clue either.

I developed my own reports using db2 (tsm didn't have sql until v3) to get a count
of nodes in use and to license accordingly.

Consequently, I have never relied on the audit license table;  I set the mansyslan 
count to
 to keep it from whining at me.  I have always relied on outside info to order 
licenses.

Basically I agree with you; the audit license command does not give meaningful
information, especially since it can't tell which of the servers clients are themselves
servers and how many processors are in each.

- bill

At 12:25 PM 3/10/2004, you wrote:
And none of what you writes makes the TSM software audit of licenses
meaningful.  You have to know OUTSIDE of what TSM can tell who which
nodes are desktops and which are servers and how many processors are in
the server machines.  Then tell TSM uopir are licensed for enough nodes
to make it shut up because there is no longer a meaninful mapping
between what the software considers a license and what IBM marketing
considers a license.

david

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2004 10:23:01 AM 
David,

IBM still does charge by node if you say the node is not a server.

It is up to us, the customers, to characterize the machines to be
backed up
and then buy the proper number and kind of licenses.

If you say a machine is a single user desktop, even if it has 2
processors and
has more raw power than some of your servers, you need just 1 desktop
license which
is about a fifth of the price of a server license.

The TSM pricing model is now function based.  The license to backup a
server is more
expensive because the value to you is greater than the value of an end
user desktop backup.

Hope this helps,

Bill Colwell


At 08:04 AM 3/10/2004, you wrote:
Nancy,

As far as I can tell it no longer matters what the TSM software
thinks
you have as far as number of nodes; just tell it you have enough to
make
it shut up.

The reason it no longer matters is that IBM no longer charges you by
node but by processor and the TSM software auditing component does
not
know about processors.  TSM software auditing is a relict of a
simpler
day.

David

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/8/2004 5:30:52 PM 
We are in the process of ordering a TSM upgrade (from 4.1 to 5.1 or
5.2)
and are having pricing issues. I ran a license audit to see what we
are
using now and it showed 108 Managed System for LAN licenses in use
(of
200), but we only have 78 nodes registered. I do not understand the
discrepancy. Can anyone explain it to me?


Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860

--
Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge Ma.

--
Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge Ma.


Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-09 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Try running the AUDIT LICENSE command. After that completes, run QUERY
LICENSE again. See if that makes any difference.

Also run

   SELECT COUNT(*) FROM NODES WHERE PLATFORM_NAME'(?)'

just to confirm the number of nodes in use (if you haven't already done
that).

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.



Nancy Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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03/08/2004 15:53
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Re: TSM license audit  not equal number of nodes






That table name does not exist on my TSM server.

Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/08/2004
04:36:41 PM:

 Issue Select * from license_details to see which nodes are showing in
use.

 -Original Message-
 From: Nancy Reeves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: March 8, 2004 4:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

 We are in the process of ordering a TSM upgrade (from 4.1 to 5.1 or 5.2)
 and are having pricing issues. I ran a license audit to see what we are
 using now and it showed 108 Managed System for LAN licenses in use (of
 200), but we only have 78 nodes registered. I do not understand the
 discrepancy. Can anyone explain it to me?


 Nancy Reeves
 Technical Support, Wichita State University
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860


Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-09 Thread Richard Sims
I ran the AUDIT LICENSE command first, then I ran the QUERY LICENSE
command (and got the 108). I ran QUERY NODES and got 78.
...

I believe that a wrinkle in this is the TSM behavior of maintaining a
count of license use attempts, regardless of validity.  Query License
will reflect a count, which may be artificially high.  Supposedly,
invalid entries in the count will age out after 30 days.

  Richard Sims


Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-09 Thread Nancy Reeves
So, are you saying that if I had no new node related activity in 30 days,
that these 2 numbers would eventually match and be accurate?

That is quite a wrinkle!

Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/09/2004
09:44:48 AM:

 I ran the AUDIT LICENSE command first, then I ran the QUERY LICENSE
 command (and got the 108). I ran QUERY NODES and got 78.
 ...

 I believe that a wrinkle in this is the TSM behavior of maintaining a
 count of license use attempts, regardless of validity.  Query License
 will reflect a count, which may be artificially high.  Supposedly,
 invalid entries in the count will age out after 30 days.

   Richard Sims


Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-09 Thread Tony Morgan
One for the pot...

IBM are charging per processor  Surely TSM License auditing is now
totally unrealistic for most activities??

Just an observation!

-Original Message-
From: Nancy Reeves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 March 2004 15:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes


So, are you saying that if I had no new node related activity in 30 days,
that these 2 numbers would eventually match and be accurate?

That is quite a wrinkle!

Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/09/2004
09:44:48 AM:

 I ran the AUDIT LICENSE command first, then I ran the QUERY LICENSE
 command (and got the 108). I ran QUERY NODES and got 78.
 ...

 I believe that a wrinkle in this is the TSM behavior of maintaining a
 count of license use attempts, regardless of validity.  Query License
 will reflect a count, which may be artificially high.  Supposedly,
 invalid entries in the count will age out after 30 days.

   Richard Sims



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Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-09 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Nancy,

Sorry to tell you that, but I'm facing the same problem as you, with
nodes being inactive since much more than 30 days, and still using
licenses. I already questioned the list without success :-(


Arnaud Brion

***
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Viadukstrasse 42, P.O. Box 4002 Basel/CH
Phone:  +41 (61) 226 11 11, FAX: +41 (61) 226 17 01
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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Nancy Reeves
Sent: Tuesday, 09 March, 2004 16:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes


So, are you saying that if I had no new node related activity in 30
days, that these 2 numbers would eventually match and be accurate?

That is quite a wrinkle!

Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/09/2004
09:44:48 AM:

 I ran the AUDIT LICENSE command first, then I ran the QUERY LICENSE 
 command (and got the 108). I ran QUERY NODES and got 78.
 ...

 I believe that a wrinkle in this is the TSM behavior of maintaining a 
 count of license use attempts, regardless of validity.  Query License 
 will reflect a count, which may be artificially high.  Supposedly, 
 invalid entries in the count will age out after 30 days.

   Richard Sims


 


Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-09 Thread Richard Sims
So, are you saying that if I had no new node related activity in 30 days,
that these 2 numbers would eventually match and be accurate?

Nancy - I would like to believe that.  :-)

If memory serves me: as of a couple of years ago at least, the license
management was not done by TSM software, but by third-party software,
with TSM having only indirect control of it; so what we see may not be
exactly what we would like to see/need to see.

As you've no doubt seen in many postings about licenses, too much
surrounding it is like trying to read tea leaves... There isn't as
much computer science in this as we might expect.

  Richard Sims


Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-09 Thread Andrew Raibeck
OK... well, then I don't know what the discrepancy is. There could be some
problem in the code related to licensing; something is ringing a vague
bell in my head about nodes registered earlier that have since been
removed, but the license count was not decremented. But I can't say for
sure.

Talk to your sales rep. While 4.1 is no longer supported, the sales rep
might be able to engage support enough to at least answer the question.
Off the top of my head, I don't know/recall.

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.



Nancy Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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03/09/2004 08:26
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Re: TSM license audit  not equal number of nodes






I ran the AUDIT LICENSE command first, then I ran the QUERY LICENSE
command (and got the 108). I ran QUERY NODES and got 78.

The  SELECT COUNT(*) FROM NODES WHERE PLATFORM_NAME'(?)' command
returned 75. I have 3 nodes defined that have never contacted the server,
2 test definitions and 1 real brand new node, thus the difference of 3
there.

Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/09/2004
08:05:22 AM:

 OK, wait a second...

 When you say you ... ran a license audit ... to see what you are using
 now, do you mean that in the generic sense, i.e. I ran QUERY LICENSE
to
 audit my license usage? Or do you mean that you actually ran the AUDIT
 LICENSE command? If the former is the case, then go ahead and try the
 AUDIT LICENSE command.

 Andy Raibeck
 IBM Software Group
 Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development

 Subject
 Re: TSM license audit  not equal number of nodes

 Try running the AUDIT LICENSE command. After that completes, run QUERY
 LICENSE again. See if that makes any difference.

 Also run

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM NODES WHERE PLATFORM_NAME'(?)'

 just to confirm the number of nodes in use (if you haven't already done
 that).

 Regards,

 Andy

 Nancy Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject
 Re: TSM license audit  not equal number of nodes

 That table name does not exist on my TSM server.

 Nancy Reeves
 Technical Support, Wichita State University
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860

 ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/08/2004
 04:36:41 PM:

  Issue Select * from license_details to see which nodes are showing
in
 use.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Nancy Reeves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: March 8, 2004 4:31 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes
 
  We are in the process of ordering a TSM upgrade (from 4.1 to 5.1 or
5.2)
  and are having pricing issues. I ran a license audit to see what we
are
  using now and it showed 108 Managed System for LAN licenses in use
(of
  200), but we only have 78 nodes registered. I do not understand the
  discrepancy. Can anyone explain it to me?
 
  Nancy Reeves
  Technical Support, Wichita State University
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860


Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-08 Thread Rushforth, Tim
Issue Select * from license_details to see which nodes are showing in use.

-Original Message-
From: Nancy Reeves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 8, 2004 4:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

We are in the process of ordering a TSM upgrade (from 4.1 to 5.1 or 5.2)
and are having pricing issues. I ran a license audit to see what we are
using now and it showed 108 Managed System for LAN licenses in use (of
200), but we only have 78 nodes registered. I do not understand the
discrepancy. Can anyone explain it to me?


Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860


Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-08 Thread Nancy Reeves
That table name does not exist on my TSM server.

Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/08/2004
04:36:41 PM:

 Issue Select * from license_details to see which nodes are showing in
use.

 -Original Message-
 From: Nancy Reeves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: March 8, 2004 4:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

 We are in the process of ordering a TSM upgrade (from 4.1 to 5.1 or 5.2)
 and are having pricing issues. I ran a license audit to see what we are
 using now and it showed 108 Managed System for LAN licenses in use (of
 200), but we only have 78 nodes registered. I do not understand the
 discrepancy. Can anyone explain it to me?


 Nancy Reeves
 Technical Support, Wichita State University
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860


Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

2004-03-08 Thread Rushforth, Tim
Sorry that must be a 5.x table!

-Original Message-
From: Nancy Reeves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 8, 2004 4:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

That table name does not exist on my TSM server.

Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/08/2004
04:36:41 PM:

 Issue Select * from license_details to see which nodes are showing in
use.

 -Original Message-
 From: Nancy Reeves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: March 8, 2004 4:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: TSM license audit not equal number of nodes

 We are in the process of ordering a TSM upgrade (from 4.1 to 5.1 or 5.2)
 and are having pricing issues. I ran a license audit to see what we are
 using now and it showed 108 Managed System for LAN licenses in use (of
 200), but we only have 78 nodes registered. I do not understand the
 discrepancy. Can anyone explain it to me?


 Nancy Reeves
 Technical Support, Wichita State University
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  316-978-3860