Re: V5.3 client and Netware 6.0

2005-01-14 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Hi Flemming, Troy, and Zoltan, and other ADSM-Lers,

Briefly, when planning for TSM 5.3, we had to determine the benefits of 
continuing to support NW 6.0 in 5.3 versus the cost of development, test, 
and support. With end-of-life for NetWare 6.0 coming relatively soon (less 
than a year after TSM 5.3 release), we decided that we could continue to 
adequately support NW 6.0 at the TSM 5.2 client level.

Just to be clear: NetWare 6.0 is still supported, but at the TSM 5.2 
client level.

I realize that this may not be a satisfactory answer, but I hope you 
understand that this is not the forum for detailed discussions about how 
and why we choose to support various operating systems and OS versions. If 
you have additional questions or concerns, then I recommend you contact 
your IBM/Tivoli sales or account representatives.

Best regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
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ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 01/14/2005 
07:34:15:

 Netware 6 is scheduled for End of Life on 11/1/05.  Since it's still
 got almost a year left, I'm a little curious why it's not supported 
also.
 http://support.novell.com/lifecycle/forecast.html 
 
 
 Troy Frank
 Network Services
 University of Wisconsin Medical Foundation
 608.829.5384
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/14/2005 1:11:11 AM 
 Hi Andy
 
 How come? I mean... after all NetWare 6.0 is still fully supported by 
Novell!
 
 Regards
 Flemming
 
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 Fra: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af
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 Sendt: 12. januar 2005 22:18
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 Emne: Re: V5.3 client and Netware 6.0
 
 
 NetWare 6.0 is not supported with the TSM 5.3 client.
 
 Regards,
 
 Andy
 
 Andy Raibeck
 IBM Software Group
 Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
 Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
 The command line is your friend.
 Good enough is the enemy of excellence.
 
 ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU  wrote on 01/12/2005
 13:47:25:
 
  Does anyone know why Netware 6.0 is excluded from the list of 
Software
  Requirements for the V5.3 client ?
 
  After all, it includes 5.1.0:
 
  - Novell NetWare 5.10 and 6.50. These Novell NetWare server levels
  are required for Local and Remote TSM Operations.
 
  Anyone try it on NW 6.0 ?
 
 
 
 
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Re: V5.3 client and Netware 6.0

2005-01-14 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Thank you for the reply.

However, from the technical aspect, what is different enough between NW 
6.0 and NW 6.5 that makes the 5.3 client incompatible ?   I didn't think 
there was that much of a difference.  They both use the TSA modules for 
the backup process !  They both run NSS !

Are there going to be any further updates to 5.2.x ?




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Hi Flemming, Troy, and Zoltan, and other ADSM-Lers,

Briefly, when planning for TSM 5.3, we had to determine the benefits of 
continuing to support NW 6.0 in 5.3 versus the cost of development, test, 
and support. With end-of-life for NetWare 6.0 coming relatively soon (less 

than a year after TSM 5.3 release), we decided that we could continue to 
adequately support NW 6.0 at the TSM 5.2 client level.

Just to be clear: NetWare 6.0 is still supported, but at the TSM 5.2 
client level.

I realize that this may not be a satisfactory answer, but I hope you 
understand that this is not the forum for detailed discussions about how 
and why we choose to support various operating systems and OS versions. If 

you have additional questions or concerns, then I recommend you contact 
your IBM/Tivoli sales or account representatives.

Best regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 01/14/2005 
07:34:15:

 Netware 6 is scheduled for End of Life on 11/1/05.  Since it's still
 got almost a year left, I'm a little curious why it's not supported 
also.
 http://support.novell.com/lifecycle/forecast.html 
 
 
 Troy Frank
 Network Services
 University of Wisconsin Medical Foundation
 608.829.5384
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/14/2005 1:11:11 AM 
 Hi Andy
 
 How come? I mean... after all NetWare 6.0 is still fully supported by 
Novell!
 
 Regards
 Flemming
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af
 Andrew Raibeck
 Sendt: 12. januar 2005 22:18
 Til: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
 Emne: Re: V5.3 client and Netware 6.0
 
 
 NetWare 6.0 is not supported with the TSM 5.3 client.
 
 Regards,
 
 Andy
 
 Andy Raibeck
 IBM Software Group
 Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
 Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
 The command line is your friend.
 Good enough is the enemy of excellence.
 
 ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU  wrote on 01/12/2005
 13:47:25:
 
  Does anyone know why Netware 6.0 is excluded from the list of 
Software
  Requirements for the V5.3 client ?
 
  After all, it includes 5.1.0:
 
  - Novell NetWare 5.10 and 6.50. These Novell NetWare server levels
  are required for Local and Remote TSM Operations.
 
  Anyone try it on NW 6.0 ?
 
 
 
 
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Re: V5.3 client and Netware 6.0

2005-01-14 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Hi Zoltan,

In theory, you are probably correct (at least for the most part...). But 
we cannot simply assume that because it works on 6.5, it also works on 6.0 
and thus claim support.

Regarding version 5.2.x: we release interim fixes (formerly known as 
patches or fixtests) as necessary to fix major problems, and we are 
planning a formal fix pack (formerly known as PTF) for later this year.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 01/14/2005 
13:00:11:

 Thank you for the reply.
 
 However, from the technical aspect, what is different enough between NW 
 6.0 and NW 6.5 that makes the 5.3 client incompatible ?   I didn't think 

 there was that much of a difference.  They both use the TSA modules for 
 the backup process !  They both run NSS !
 
 Are there going to be any further updates to 5.2.x ?
 
 
 
 
 Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
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 Hi Flemming, Troy, and Zoltan, and other ADSM-Lers,
 
 Briefly, when planning for TSM 5.3, we had to determine the benefits of 
 continuing to support NW 6.0 in 5.3 versus the cost of development, 
test, 
 and support. With end-of-life for NetWare 6.0 coming relatively soon 
(less 
 
 than a year after TSM 5.3 release), we decided that we could continue to 

 adequately support NW 6.0 at the TSM 5.2 client level.
 
 Just to be clear: NetWare 6.0 is still supported, but at the TSM 5.2 
 client level.
 
 I realize that this may not be a satisfactory answer, but I hope you 
 understand that this is not the forum for detailed discussions about how 

 and why we choose to support various operating systems and OS versions. 
If 
 
 you have additional questions or concerns, then I recommend you contact 
 your IBM/Tivoli sales or account representatives.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Andy
 
 Andy Raibeck
 IBM Software Group
 Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
 Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
 The command line is your friend.
 Good enough is the enemy of excellence.
 
 ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 01/14/2005 
 07:34:15:
 
  Netware 6 is scheduled for End of Life on 11/1/05.  Since it's still
  got almost a year left, I'm a little curious why it's not supported 
 also.
  http://support.novell.com/lifecycle/forecast.html 
  
  
  Troy Frank
  Network Services
  University of Wisconsin Medical Foundation
  608.829.5384
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/14/2005 1:11:11 AM 
  Hi Andy
  
  How come? I mean... after all NetWare 6.0 is still fully supported by 
 Novell!
  
  Regards
  Flemming
  
  -Oprindelig meddelelse-
  Fra: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af
  Andrew Raibeck
  Sendt: 12. januar 2005 22:18
  Til: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
  Emne: Re: V5.3 client and Netware 6.0
  
  
  NetWare 6.0 is not supported with the TSM 5.3 client.
  
  Regards,
  
  Andy
  
  Andy Raibeck
  IBM Software Group
  Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
  Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
  The command line is your friend.
  Good enough is the enemy of excellence.
  
  ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU  wrote on 01/12/2005
  13:47:25:
  
   Does anyone know why Netware 6.0 is excluded from the list of 
 Software
   Requirements for the V5.3 client ?
  
   After all, it includes 5.1.0:
  
   - Novell NetWare 5.10 and 6.50. These Novell NetWare server levels
   are required for Local and Remote TSM Operations.
  
   Anyone try it on NW 6.0 ?
  
  
  
  
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 www.netborger.dk 
  
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  it. Thank you.
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  improve its service of the general public. 
  
  
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Re: V5.3 client and Netware 6.0

2005-01-12 Thread Andrew Raibeck
NetWare 6.0 is not supported with the TSM 5.3 client.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 01/12/2005
13:47:25:

 Does anyone know why Netware 6.0 is excluded from the list of Software
 Requirements for the V5.3 client ?

 After all, it includes 5.1.0:

 - Novell NetWare 5.10 and 6.50. These Novell NetWare server levels
   are required for Local and Remote TSM Operations.

 Anyone try it on NW 6.0 ?