Re: archiving questions

2003-01-23 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Hi Michelle,

You will need a management class with an archive copy group that retains
the data for 3 years. Therefore you will need to:

1) Create a new management class in the desired domain/policy set. (See
DEFINE MGMTCLASS in the Administrator's Reference.)

2) Create an archive copygroup in the new management class with the
desired retention. (See DEFINE COPYGROUP in the Administrator's
Reference.)

3) Activate the policy set. (See ACTIVATE POLICYSET in the Administrator's
Reference.)

If you are not the TSM server administrator, then you will need to have
that person perform these tasks. Once the new management class is
available, you can run the archive and bind the files to that new
management class.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

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Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




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Hi all,

A client of mine requests that 220GB of databases are being archived on
tape and kept for 3 years.
I've been looking for a way on how to do this but the manuals only speak
of
how the archive client command works. Not really on how things work on the
serverside. I assume I'll have to make another managementclaas which
defines
how long to keep trhe files etc. but I'm not sure how to go about this.
below are the specifics on our current mg classes; the domain I'm speaking
of is the one called progress.

Does anyone have some ideas on how to do this?

thnx a lot,
michelle

**
*** --- Q DOMAIN
**


Policy   ActivatedActivated Number ofDescription

Domain   Policy   Default  Registered
Name Set  Mgmt  Nodes
  Class
-----

BAKKERLA-BAK_POLI-BAK_MNGM- 4domain voor progress
 ND   CY   NTCLASS

STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD 34Installed default
policy
  domain.




**
*** --- Q MGMTCLASS
**


PolicyPolicyMgmt  Default   Description

DomainSet Name  Class Mgmt
NameName  Class ?
- - - -

BAKKERLA- ACTIVEBAK_MNGM- Yes   progress
managementcl-
 ND  NTCLASS ass

BAKKERLA- BAK_POLI- BAK_MNGM- Yes   progress
managementcl-
 NDCYNTCLASS ass

STANDARD  ACTIVESTANDARD  Yes   Installed default

 management class.

STANDARD  STANDARD  STANDARD  Yes   Installed default

 management class.




**
*** --- Q COPYGROUP * * * STANDARD TYPE=BACKUP
**


PolicyPolicyMgmt  Copy  Versions Versions   Retain  Retain
DomainSet Name  Class Group Data DataExtraOnly
NameName  NameExists  Deleted Versions Version
- - - -    ---
PROGRESS - ACTIVEBAK_MNGM- STANDARD 51   30 60
   NTCLASS
PROGRESS- PRO_POLI- BAK_MNGM- STANDARD 51   30  60
 CYNTCLASS
STANDARD  ACTIVESTANDARD  STANDARD 51   30  60
STANDARD  STANDARD  STANDARD  STANDARD 51   30  60



**
*** --- Q COPYGROUP * * * STANDARD TYPE=ARCHIVE
**


PolicyPolicyMgmt  CopyRetain
DomainSet Name  Class Group  Version
NameName  Name
- - - - 
PROGRESS- ACTIVEBAK_MNGM- STANDARD   365
NTCLASS
PROGRESS- BAK_POLI- BAK_MNGM- STANDARD   365
   CYNTCLASS
STANDARD  ACTIVESTANDARD  STANDARD   365
STANDARD  STANDARD  STANDARD  

Re: archiving questions

2003-01-23 Thread Cook, Dwight E
Also, how often will they perform the archives ???
how many files make up the data ???
etc...
You want to take such things into consideration because they will have an
impact on your environment in general (in the form of tsm server data base
growth, tsm db performance issues, tape library capacity issues, etc...).

Anymore I look at data that is to be kept for over 1 year as stagnant data
(that I don't want in the environments).
When long term retention is required, I generally register a node by the
name of existing node name_exp, have them push any data they require kept
to the tsm server using that node name, then I export to two sets of tapes
and send to offsite locations.

Also, the way you may use relative dates during an import, if they need to
extend the retention, all I do is extend the time I keep the tapes.

just some food for thought...

Dwight



-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: archiving questions


Hi Michelle,

You will need a management class with an archive copy group that retains
the data for 3 years. Therefore you will need to:

1) Create a new management class in the desired domain/policy set. (See
DEFINE MGMTCLASS in the Administrator's Reference.)

2) Create an archive copygroup in the new management class with the
desired retention. (See DEFINE COPYGROUP in the Administrator's
Reference.)

3) Activate the policy set. (See ACTIVATE POLICYSET in the Administrator's
Reference.)

If you are not the TSM server administrator, then you will need to have
that person perform these tasks. Once the new management class is
available, you can run the archive and bind the files to that new
management class.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




Michelle Wiedeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi all,

A client of mine requests that 220GB of databases are being archived on
tape and kept for 3 years.
I've been looking for a way on how to do this but the manuals only speak
of
how the archive client command works. Not really on how things work on the
serverside. I assume I'll have to make another managementclaas which
defines
how long to keep trhe files etc. but I'm not sure how to go about this.
below are the specifics on our current mg classes; the domain I'm speaking
of is the one called progress.

Does anyone have some ideas on how to do this?

thnx a lot,
michelle

**
*** --- Q DOMAIN
**


Policy   ActivatedActivated Number ofDescription

Domain   Policy   Default  Registered
Name Set  Mgmt  Nodes
  Class
-----

BAKKERLA-BAK_POLI-BAK_MNGM- 4domain voor progress
 ND   CY   NTCLASS

STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD 34Installed default
policy
  domain.




**
*** --- Q MGMTCLASS
**


PolicyPolicyMgmt  Default   Description

DomainSet Name  Class Mgmt
NameName  Class ?
- - - -

BAKKERLA- ACTIVEBAK_MNGM- Yes   progress
managementcl-
 ND  NTCLASS ass

BAKKERLA- BAK_POLI- BAK_MNGM- Yes   progress
managementcl-
 NDCYNTCLASS ass

STANDARD  ACTIVESTANDARD  Yes   Installed default

 management class.

STANDARD  STANDARD  STANDARD  Yes   Installed default

 management class.




**
*** --- Q COPYGROUP * * * STANDARD TYPE=BACKUP
**


PolicyPolicyMgmt  Copy  Versions Versions   Retain  Retain
DomainSet Name  Class Group Data DataExtraOnly
NameName  NameExists  Deleted Versions Version

Re: archiving questions

2003-01-23 Thread Michelle Wiedeman
hi dwight,

The archive will be performed once and then the tapes will be checked out
and put in vault.
it is only archived because it contains finacial data which  to legal
reasons is to be kept for a long period of time.

In this manner it will not have a great impact i guess, accept on the amount
of tapevolumes. but that is to be overcome by purchasing extra.

-Original Message-
From: Cook, Dwight E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: archiving questions


Also, how often will they perform the archives ???
how many files make up the data ???
etc...
You want to take such things into consideration because they will have an
impact on your environment in general (in the form of tsm server data base
growth, tsm db performance issues, tape library capacity issues, etc...).

Anymore I look at data that is to be kept for over 1 year as stagnant data
(that I don't want in the environments).
When long term retention is required, I generally register a node by the
name of existing node name_exp, have them push any data they require kept
to the tsm server using that node name, then I export to two sets of tapes
and send to offsite locations.

Also, the way you may use relative dates during an import, if they need to
extend the retention, all I do is extend the time I keep the tapes.

just some food for thought...

Dwight



-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: archiving questions


Hi Michelle,

You will need a management class with an archive copy group that retains
the data for 3 years. Therefore you will need to:

1) Create a new management class in the desired domain/policy set. (See
DEFINE MGMTCLASS in the Administrator's Reference.)

2) Create an archive copygroup in the new management class with the
desired retention. (See DEFINE COPYGROUP in the Administrator's
Reference.)

3) Activate the policy set. (See ACTIVATE POLICYSET in the Administrator's
Reference.)

If you are not the TSM server administrator, then you will need to have
that person perform these tasks. Once the new management class is
available, you can run the archive and bind the files to that new
management class.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




Michelle Wiedeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
01/23/2003 06:03
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Subject:archiving questions



Hi all,

A client of mine requests that 220GB of databases are being archived on
tape and kept for 3 years.
I've been looking for a way on how to do this but the manuals only speak
of
how the archive client command works. Not really on how things work on the
serverside. I assume I'll have to make another managementclaas which
defines
how long to keep trhe files etc. but I'm not sure how to go about this.
below are the specifics on our current mg classes; the domain I'm speaking
of is the one called progress.

Does anyone have some ideas on how to do this?

thnx a lot,
michelle

**
*** --- Q DOMAIN
**


Policy   ActivatedActivated Number ofDescription

Domain   Policy   Default  Registered
Name Set  Mgmt  Nodes
  Class
-----

BAKKERLA-BAK_POLI-BAK_MNGM- 4domain voor progress
 ND   CY   NTCLASS

STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD 34Installed default
policy
  domain.




**
*** --- Q MGMTCLASS
**


PolicyPolicyMgmt  Default   Description

DomainSet Name  Class Mgmt
NameName  Class ?
- - - -

BAKKERLA- ACTIVEBAK_MNGM- Yes   progress
managementcl-
 ND  NTCLASS ass

BAKKERLA- BAK_POLI- BAK_MNGM- Yes   progress
managementcl-
 NDCYNTCLASS ass

STANDARD  ACTIVESTANDARD  Yes   Installed default

 management class.

STANDARD  STANDARD  STANDARD  Yes   Installed

Re: archiving questions

2003-01-23 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.
 -Original Message-
 From: Michelle Wiedeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:04 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: archiving questions

 Hi all,

 A client of mine requests that 220GB of databases are being
 archived on tape and kept for 3 years.


Michelle,

All you have to do is define a management class with the proper retention
period, don't forget to activate the policy set. Then from the client run
dsmc archive -dirmc=thenameofthatmanagementclass (This binds the archive to
that specific management class) This is the key option you need. Use
-subdir=yes if you want subdirectories and then specify the folders to
archive. You can add -description=Whatevername you want to give

Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
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Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (877) 905-7154



Re: archiving questions

2003-01-23 Thread Sascha Braeuning
Hello Michelle,

if you did the tasks, Andrew expected in the mail before, you can perform
an archive operation with the option archmc=your_archive_managementclass.

For example you can use the following command to archive files in your
diectory d:\archive:

archive archmc=archclass d:\archive\*

If you use the option -deletefiles, files archived will be deleted on the
client!

I think, it's very comfortable to use. Also see your document how to use
your Backup/Archive Client. There you can get more information about
special options.


MfG/regards
Sascha Bräuning


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Hi Michelle,

You will need a management class with an archive copy group that retains
the data for 3 years. Therefore you will need to:

1) Create a new management class in the desired domain/policy set. (See
DEFINE MGMTCLASS in the Administrator's Reference.)

2) Create an archive copygroup in the new management class with the
desired retention. (See DEFINE COPYGROUP in the Administrator's
Reference.)

3) Activate the policy set. (See ACTIVATE POLICYSET in the Administrator's
Reference.)

If you are not the TSM server administrator, then you will need to have
that person perform these tasks. Once the new management class is
available, you can run the archive and bind the files to that new
management class.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




Michelle Wiedeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
01/23/2003 06:03
Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager


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Subject:archiving questions



Hi all,

A client of mine requests that 220GB of databases are being archived on
tape and kept for 3 years.
I've been looking for a way on how to do this but the manuals only speak
of
how the archive client command works. Not really on how things work on the
serverside. I assume I'll have to make another managementclaas which
defines
how long to keep trhe files etc. but I'm not sure how to go about this.
below are the specifics on our current mg classes; the domain I'm speaking
of is the one called progress.

Does anyone have some ideas on how to do this?

thnx a lot,
michelle

**
*** --- Q DOMAIN
**


Policy   ActivatedActivated Number ofDescription

Domain   Policy   Default  Registered
Name Set  Mgmt  Nodes
  Class
-----

BAKKERLA-BAK_POLI-BAK_MNGM- 4domain voor progress
 ND   CY   NTCLASS

STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD 34Installed default
policy
  domain.




**
*** --- Q MGMTCLASS
**


PolicyPolicyMgmt  Default   Description

DomainSet Name  Class Mgmt
NameName  Class ?
- - - -

BAKKERLA- ACTIVEBAK_MNGM- Yes   progress
managementcl-
 ND  NTCLASS ass

BAKKERLA- BAK_POLI- BAK_MNGM- Yes   progress
managementcl-
 NDCYNTCLASS ass

STANDARD  ACTIVESTANDARD  Yes   Installed default

 management class.

STANDARD  STANDARD  STANDARD  Yes   Installed default

 management class.




**
*** --- Q COPYGROUP * * * STANDARD TYPE=BACKUP
**


PolicyPolicyMgmt  Copy  Versions Versions   Retain  Retain
DomainSet Name  Class Group Data DataExtraOnly
NameName  NameExists  Deleted Versions Version