Re: archiving questions
Hi Michelle, You will need a management class with an archive copy group that retains the data for 3 years. Therefore you will need to: 1) Create a new management class in the desired domain/policy set. (See DEFINE MGMTCLASS in the Administrator's Reference.) 2) Create an archive copygroup in the new management class with the desired retention. (See DEFINE COPYGROUP in the Administrator's Reference.) 3) Activate the policy set. (See ACTIVATE POLICYSET in the Administrator's Reference.) If you are not the TSM server administrator, then you will need to have that person perform these tasks. Once the new management class is available, you can run the archive and bind the files to that new management class. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply) The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Michelle Wiedeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/23/2003 06:03 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:archiving questions Hi all, A client of mine requests that 220GB of databases are being archived on tape and kept for 3 years. I've been looking for a way on how to do this but the manuals only speak of how the archive client command works. Not really on how things work on the serverside. I assume I'll have to make another managementclaas which defines how long to keep trhe files etc. but I'm not sure how to go about this. below are the specifics on our current mg classes; the domain I'm speaking of is the one called progress. Does anyone have some ideas on how to do this? thnx a lot, michelle ** *** --- Q DOMAIN ** Policy ActivatedActivated Number ofDescription Domain Policy Default Registered Name Set Mgmt Nodes Class ----- BAKKERLA-BAK_POLI-BAK_MNGM- 4domain voor progress ND CY NTCLASS STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD 34Installed default policy domain. ** *** --- Q MGMTCLASS ** PolicyPolicyMgmt Default Description DomainSet Name Class Mgmt NameName Class ? - - - - BAKKERLA- ACTIVEBAK_MNGM- Yes progress managementcl- ND NTCLASS ass BAKKERLA- BAK_POLI- BAK_MNGM- Yes progress managementcl- NDCYNTCLASS ass STANDARD ACTIVESTANDARD Yes Installed default management class. STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD Yes Installed default management class. ** *** --- Q COPYGROUP * * * STANDARD TYPE=BACKUP ** PolicyPolicyMgmt Copy Versions Versions Retain Retain DomainSet Name Class Group Data DataExtraOnly NameName NameExists Deleted Versions Version - - - - --- PROGRESS - ACTIVEBAK_MNGM- STANDARD 51 30 60 NTCLASS PROGRESS- PRO_POLI- BAK_MNGM- STANDARD 51 30 60 CYNTCLASS STANDARD ACTIVESTANDARD STANDARD 51 30 60 STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD 51 30 60 ** *** --- Q COPYGROUP * * * STANDARD TYPE=ARCHIVE ** PolicyPolicyMgmt CopyRetain DomainSet Name Class Group Version NameName Name - - - - PROGRESS- ACTIVEBAK_MNGM- STANDARD 365 NTCLASS PROGRESS- BAK_POLI- BAK_MNGM- STANDARD 365 CYNTCLASS STANDARD ACTIVESTANDARD STANDARD 365 STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD
Re: archiving questions
Also, how often will they perform the archives ??? how many files make up the data ??? etc... You want to take such things into consideration because they will have an impact on your environment in general (in the form of tsm server data base growth, tsm db performance issues, tape library capacity issues, etc...). Anymore I look at data that is to be kept for over 1 year as stagnant data (that I don't want in the environments). When long term retention is required, I generally register a node by the name of existing node name_exp, have them push any data they require kept to the tsm server using that node name, then I export to two sets of tapes and send to offsite locations. Also, the way you may use relative dates during an import, if they need to extend the retention, all I do is extend the time I keep the tapes. just some food for thought... Dwight -Original Message- From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: archiving questions Hi Michelle, You will need a management class with an archive copy group that retains the data for 3 years. Therefore you will need to: 1) Create a new management class in the desired domain/policy set. (See DEFINE MGMTCLASS in the Administrator's Reference.) 2) Create an archive copygroup in the new management class with the desired retention. (See DEFINE COPYGROUP in the Administrator's Reference.) 3) Activate the policy set. (See ACTIVATE POLICYSET in the Administrator's Reference.) If you are not the TSM server administrator, then you will need to have that person perform these tasks. Once the new management class is available, you can run the archive and bind the files to that new management class. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply) The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Michelle Wiedeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/23/2003 06:03 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:archiving questions Hi all, A client of mine requests that 220GB of databases are being archived on tape and kept for 3 years. I've been looking for a way on how to do this but the manuals only speak of how the archive client command works. Not really on how things work on the serverside. I assume I'll have to make another managementclaas which defines how long to keep trhe files etc. but I'm not sure how to go about this. below are the specifics on our current mg classes; the domain I'm speaking of is the one called progress. Does anyone have some ideas on how to do this? thnx a lot, michelle ** *** --- Q DOMAIN ** Policy ActivatedActivated Number ofDescription Domain Policy Default Registered Name Set Mgmt Nodes Class ----- BAKKERLA-BAK_POLI-BAK_MNGM- 4domain voor progress ND CY NTCLASS STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD 34Installed default policy domain. ** *** --- Q MGMTCLASS ** PolicyPolicyMgmt Default Description DomainSet Name Class Mgmt NameName Class ? - - - - BAKKERLA- ACTIVEBAK_MNGM- Yes progress managementcl- ND NTCLASS ass BAKKERLA- BAK_POLI- BAK_MNGM- Yes progress managementcl- NDCYNTCLASS ass STANDARD ACTIVESTANDARD Yes Installed default management class. STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD Yes Installed default management class. ** *** --- Q COPYGROUP * * * STANDARD TYPE=BACKUP ** PolicyPolicyMgmt Copy Versions Versions Retain Retain DomainSet Name Class Group Data DataExtraOnly NameName NameExists Deleted Versions Version
Re: archiving questions
hi dwight, The archive will be performed once and then the tapes will be checked out and put in vault. it is only archived because it contains finacial data which to legal reasons is to be kept for a long period of time. In this manner it will not have a great impact i guess, accept on the amount of tapevolumes. but that is to be overcome by purchasing extra. -Original Message- From: Cook, Dwight E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: archiving questions Also, how often will they perform the archives ??? how many files make up the data ??? etc... You want to take such things into consideration because they will have an impact on your environment in general (in the form of tsm server data base growth, tsm db performance issues, tape library capacity issues, etc...). Anymore I look at data that is to be kept for over 1 year as stagnant data (that I don't want in the environments). When long term retention is required, I generally register a node by the name of existing node name_exp, have them push any data they require kept to the tsm server using that node name, then I export to two sets of tapes and send to offsite locations. Also, the way you may use relative dates during an import, if they need to extend the retention, all I do is extend the time I keep the tapes. just some food for thought... Dwight -Original Message- From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: archiving questions Hi Michelle, You will need a management class with an archive copy group that retains the data for 3 years. Therefore you will need to: 1) Create a new management class in the desired domain/policy set. (See DEFINE MGMTCLASS in the Administrator's Reference.) 2) Create an archive copygroup in the new management class with the desired retention. (See DEFINE COPYGROUP in the Administrator's Reference.) 3) Activate the policy set. (See ACTIVATE POLICYSET in the Administrator's Reference.) If you are not the TSM server administrator, then you will need to have that person perform these tasks. Once the new management class is available, you can run the archive and bind the files to that new management class. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply) The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Michelle Wiedeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/23/2003 06:03 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:archiving questions Hi all, A client of mine requests that 220GB of databases are being archived on tape and kept for 3 years. I've been looking for a way on how to do this but the manuals only speak of how the archive client command works. Not really on how things work on the serverside. I assume I'll have to make another managementclaas which defines how long to keep trhe files etc. but I'm not sure how to go about this. below are the specifics on our current mg classes; the domain I'm speaking of is the one called progress. Does anyone have some ideas on how to do this? thnx a lot, michelle ** *** --- Q DOMAIN ** Policy ActivatedActivated Number ofDescription Domain Policy Default Registered Name Set Mgmt Nodes Class ----- BAKKERLA-BAK_POLI-BAK_MNGM- 4domain voor progress ND CY NTCLASS STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD 34Installed default policy domain. ** *** --- Q MGMTCLASS ** PolicyPolicyMgmt Default Description DomainSet Name Class Mgmt NameName Class ? - - - - BAKKERLA- ACTIVEBAK_MNGM- Yes progress managementcl- ND NTCLASS ass BAKKERLA- BAK_POLI- BAK_MNGM- Yes progress managementcl- NDCYNTCLASS ass STANDARD ACTIVESTANDARD Yes Installed default management class. STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD Yes Installed
Re: archiving questions
-Original Message- From: Michelle Wiedeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: archiving questions Hi all, A client of mine requests that 220GB of databases are being archived on tape and kept for 3 years. Michelle, All you have to do is define a management class with the proper retention period, don't forget to activate the policy set. Then from the client run dsmc archive -dirmc=thenameofthatmanagementclass (This binds the archive to that specific management class) This is the key option you need. Use -subdir=yes if you want subdirectories and then specify the folders to archive. You can add -description=Whatevername you want to give Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154
Re: archiving questions
Hello Michelle, if you did the tasks, Andrew expected in the mail before, you can perform an archive operation with the option archmc=your_archive_managementclass. For example you can use the following command to archive files in your diectory d:\archive: archive archmc=archclass d:\archive\* If you use the option -deletefiles, files archived will be deleted on the client! I think, it's very comfortable to use. Also see your document how to use your Backup/Archive Client. There you can get more information about special options. MfG/regards Sascha Bräuning Sparkassen Informatik, Fellbach OrgEinheit: 6322 Wilhelm-Pfitzer Str. 1 70736 Fellbach Telefon: (0711) 5722-2144 Telefax: (0711) 5722-1634 Mailadr.: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Weitergeleitet von Sascha Bräuning/6322/FE/SI/DE on 24.01.2003 08:45 --- Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 23.01.2003 14:30:21 Bitte antworten an ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopie: Thema: Re: archiving questions Hi Michelle, You will need a management class with an archive copy group that retains the data for 3 years. Therefore you will need to: 1) Create a new management class in the desired domain/policy set. (See DEFINE MGMTCLASS in the Administrator's Reference.) 2) Create an archive copygroup in the new management class with the desired retention. (See DEFINE COPYGROUP in the Administrator's Reference.) 3) Activate the policy set. (See ACTIVATE POLICYSET in the Administrator's Reference.) If you are not the TSM server administrator, then you will need to have that person perform these tasks. Once the new management class is available, you can run the archive and bind the files to that new management class. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply) The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Michelle Wiedeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/23/2003 06:03 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:archiving questions Hi all, A client of mine requests that 220GB of databases are being archived on tape and kept for 3 years. I've been looking for a way on how to do this but the manuals only speak of how the archive client command works. Not really on how things work on the serverside. I assume I'll have to make another managementclaas which defines how long to keep trhe files etc. but I'm not sure how to go about this. below are the specifics on our current mg classes; the domain I'm speaking of is the one called progress. Does anyone have some ideas on how to do this? thnx a lot, michelle ** *** --- Q DOMAIN ** Policy ActivatedActivated Number ofDescription Domain Policy Default Registered Name Set Mgmt Nodes Class ----- BAKKERLA-BAK_POLI-BAK_MNGM- 4domain voor progress ND CY NTCLASS STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD 34Installed default policy domain. ** *** --- Q MGMTCLASS ** PolicyPolicyMgmt Default Description DomainSet Name Class Mgmt NameName Class ? - - - - BAKKERLA- ACTIVEBAK_MNGM- Yes progress managementcl- ND NTCLASS ass BAKKERLA- BAK_POLI- BAK_MNGM- Yes progress managementcl- NDCYNTCLASS ass STANDARD ACTIVESTANDARD Yes Installed default management class. STANDARD STANDARD STANDARD Yes Installed default management class. ** *** --- Q COPYGROUP * * * STANDARD TYPE=BACKUP ** PolicyPolicyMgmt Copy Versions Versions Retain Retain DomainSet Name Class Group Data DataExtraOnly NameName NameExists Deleted Versions Version