Re: syntax question
Thank you Mark, Andy, Wanda, Shawn, and Yudi. Your suggestions are doing the trick. Brett -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:37 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] syntax question I would only condone using this if a different node name is used to back up the .pst files than are used to back up the other files. Do not use INCLUDE/EXCLUDE to accomplish this for a given node. Otherwise when you run the incremental backup that includes the .pst files, they will be backed up (if changed). Then when you run the incremental backup that excludes the .pst files, the existing backup versions will be expired on the TSM server, subjecting them to VERDELETED and RETONLY settings. It is never a good idea to bounce back and forth between including and excluding files like this. If you really need to back the files up in this fashion, you can use separate options files as you describe, but make sure each uses a unique node name. This makes restore slightly more complicated in that you'll need to remember to run the restore for both nodes. A (perhaps) simpler approach would be to just let the other files backup also back up .pst files (if it can), then schedule a separate backup to run later that targets the *.pst files specifically. This type of play is called a punt. :-) Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/04/2009 11:36:45 AM: [image removed] Re: syntax question Mark Stapleton to: ADSM-L 02/04/2009 11:37 AM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Use two option files and point a different scheduler service at each of them. One option file should read: Exclude *:\...\* Include *:\...\*.pst The other should read: Exclude *:\...\*.pst -- Mark Stapleton (mark.staple...@cdw.com) System engineer, CDW Office 763.592.5963 7145 Boone Avenue North, Suite 140 Brooklyn Park MN 55428-1511 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Whitlock, Brett Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:30 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] syntax question Hi List, Server TSM 5.4 on Windows Client 5.5 on Windows Here's what I'm trying to do. Run 1 incremental on a file server with all .pst files excluded. Then, run a separate incremental with only the .pst files. I have c: e: and f: drives DescriptionONLY for backing up .PST's on file server ActionINCREMENTAL Options-subdir=yes -include *:\...\*.pst ObjectsC:\*.pst E:\*.pst F:\*.pst sched.log reports: 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1389W Invalid option (-INCLUDE) for the scheduled INCREMENTAL command 02/03/2009 23:51:27 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT BEGIN MMA_DAILY_PST_BACKUP 02/03/2009 23:00:00 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1149E No domain is available for incremental backup. The domain may be empty or all file systems in the domain are excluded. 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS5083E Drive specification contains wildcard character. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Brett No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1933 - Release Date: 03-Feb-09 5:48 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1933 - Release Date: 03-Feb-09 5:48 PM
Re: syntax question
Use two option files and point a different scheduler service at each of them. One option file should read: Exclude *:\...\* Include *:\...\*.pst The other should read: Exclude *:\...\*.pst -- Mark Stapleton (mark.staple...@cdw.com) System engineer, CDW Office 763.592.5963 7145 Boone Avenue North, Suite 140 Brooklyn Park MN 55428-1511 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Whitlock, Brett Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:30 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] syntax question Hi List, Server TSM 5.4 on Windows Client 5.5 on Windows Here's what I'm trying to do. Run 1 incremental on a file server with all .pst files excluded. Then, run a separate incremental with only the .pst files. I have c: e: and f: drives Description ONLY for backing up .PST's on file server Action INCREMENTAL Options -subdir=yes -include *:\...\*.pst Objects C:\*.pst E:\*.pst F:\*.pst sched.log reports: 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1389W Invalid option (-INCLUDE) for the scheduled INCREMENTAL command 02/03/2009 23:51:27 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT BEGIN MMA_DAILY_PST_BACKUP 02/03/2009 23:00:00 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1149E No domain is available for incremental backup. The domain may be empty or all file systems in the domain are excluded. 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS5083E Drive specification contains wildcard character. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Brett No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1933 - Release Date: 03-Feb-09 5:48 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1933 - Release Date: 03-Feb-09 5:48 PM
Re: syntax question
Create another dsm.opt file, (example dsm2.opt), state the include of *.pst files. I think at the objects you don't need to specify *.pst, just the drive, because the other files are already back up (on the first incremental backup). Action INCREMENTAL Options -subdir=yes -optfile=dsm2.opt Objects C:\ E:\ F:\ Best Regards, Yudi Darmadi PT Niagaprima Paramitra Jl. KH Ahmad Dahlan No.25 Kebayoran Baru, Jakarta Selatan 12130 Phone: 021-72799949; Fax: 021-72799950; Mobile: 081905530830 http://www.niagaprima.com - Original Message - From: Whitlock, Brett brett.whitl...@countryfinancial.com To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:29 PM Subject: [ADSM-L] syntax question Hi List, Server TSM 5.4 on Windows Client 5.5 on Windows Here's what I'm trying to do. Run 1 incremental on a file server with all .pst files excluded. Then, run a separate incremental with only the .pst files. I have c: e: and f: drives Description ONLY for backing up .PST's on file server Action INCREMENTAL Options -subdir=yes -include *:\...\*.pst Objects C:\*.pst E:\*.pst F:\*.pst sched.log reports: 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1389W Invalid option (-INCLUDE) for the scheduled INCREMENTAL command 02/03/2009 23:51:27 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT BEGIN MMA_DAILY_PST_BACKUP 02/03/2009 23:00:00 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1149E No domain is available for incremental backup. The domain may be empty or all file systems in the domain are excluded. 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS5083E Drive specification contains wildcard character. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Brett
Re: syntax question
Unfortunately, you can't use wildcards in the objects field. You need to specify exactly what you are backing up. For what you want, I would recommend using include/exclude options in separate .opt files Another option is to do some hacking in a preschedcmd script. Regards, Shawn Shawn Drew Internet brett.whitl...@countryfinancial.com Sent by: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/04/2009 11:29 AM Please respond to ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L cc Subject [ADSM-L] syntax question Hi List, Server TSM 5.4 on Windows Client 5.5 on Windows Here's what I'm trying to do. Run 1 incremental on a file server with all .pst files excluded. Then, run a separate incremental with only the .pst files. I have c: e: and f: drives Description ONLY for backing up .PST's on file server Action INCREMENTAL Options -subdir=yes -include *:\...\*.pst Objects C:\*.pst E:\*.pst F:\*.pst sched.log reports: 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1389W Invalid option (-INCLUDE) for the scheduled INCREMENTAL command 02/03/2009 23:51:27 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT BEGIN MMA_DAILY_PST_BACKUP 02/03/2009 23:00:00 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1149E No domain is available for incremental backup. The domain may be empty or all file systems in the domain are excluded. 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS5083E Drive specification contains wildcard character. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Brett This message and any attachments (the message) is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. BNP PARIBAS (and its subsidiaries) shall (will) not therefore be liable for the message if modified. Please note that certain functions and services for BNP Paribas may be performed by BNP Paribas RCC, Inc.
Re: syntax question
I would only condone using this if a different node name is used to back up the .pst files than are used to back up the other files. Do not use INCLUDE/EXCLUDE to accomplish this for a given node. Otherwise when you run the incremental backup that includes the .pst files, they will be backed up (if changed). Then when you run the incremental backup that excludes the .pst files, the existing backup versions will be expired on the TSM server, subjecting them to VERDELETED and RETONLY settings. It is never a good idea to bounce back and forth between including and excluding files like this. If you really need to back the files up in this fashion, you can use separate options files as you describe, but make sure each uses a unique node name. This makes restore slightly more complicated in that you'll need to remember to run the restore for both nodes. A (perhaps) simpler approach would be to just let the other files backup also back up .pst files (if it can), then schedule a separate backup to run later that targets the *.pst files specifically. This type of play is called a punt. :-) Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/04/2009 11:36:45 AM: [image removed] Re: syntax question Mark Stapleton to: ADSM-L 02/04/2009 11:37 AM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Use two option files and point a different scheduler service at each of them. One option file should read: Exclude *:\...\* Include *:\...\*.pst The other should read: Exclude *:\...\*.pst -- Mark Stapleton (mark.staple...@cdw.com) System engineer, CDW Office 763.592.5963 7145 Boone Avenue North, Suite 140 Brooklyn Park MN 55428-1511 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Whitlock, Brett Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:30 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] syntax question Hi List, Server TSM 5.4 on Windows Client 5.5 on Windows Here's what I'm trying to do. Run 1 incremental on a file server with all .pst files excluded. Then, run a separate incremental with only the .pst files. I have c: e: and f: drives DescriptionONLY for backing up .PST's on file server ActionINCREMENTAL Options-subdir=yes -include *:\...\*.pst ObjectsC:\*.pst E:\*.pst F:\*.pst sched.log reports: 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1389W Invalid option (-INCLUDE) for the scheduled INCREMENTAL command 02/03/2009 23:51:27 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT BEGIN MMA_DAILY_PST_BACKUP 02/03/2009 23:00:00 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1149E No domain is available for incremental backup. The domain may be empty or all file systems in the domain are excluded. 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS5083E Drive specification contains wildcard character. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Brett No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1933 - Release Date: 03-Feb-09 5:48 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1933 - Release Date: 03-Feb-09 5:48 PM
Re: syntax question
You not only need separate opt files, you need 2 node names. If one backup runs with an include for .pst and the next backup has an exclude for .pst, all the .pst files will be expired. On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Shawn Drew shawn.d...@americas.bnpparibas.com wrote: Unfortunately, you can't use wildcards in the objects field. You need to specify exactly what you are backing up. For what you want, I would recommend using include/exclude options in separate .opt files Another option is to do some hacking in a preschedcmd script. Regards, Shawn Shawn Drew Internet brett.whitl...@countryfinancial.com Sent by: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/04/2009 11:29 AM Please respond to ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L cc Subject [ADSM-L] syntax question Hi List, Server TSM 5.4 on Windows Client 5.5 on Windows Here's what I'm trying to do. Run 1 incremental on a file server with all .pst files excluded. Then, run a separate incremental with only the .pst files. I have c: e: and f: drives Description ONLY for backing up .PST's on file server Action INCREMENTAL Options -subdir=yes -include *:\...\*.pst Objects C:\*.pst E:\*.pst F:\*.pst sched.log reports: 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1389W Invalid option (-INCLUDE) for the scheduled INCREMENTAL command 02/03/2009 23:51:27 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT BEGIN MMA_DAILY_PST_BACKUP 02/03/2009 23:00:00 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1149E No domain is available for incremental backup. The domain may be empty or all file systems in the domain are excluded. 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS5083E Drive specification contains wildcard character. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Brett This message and any attachments (the message) is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. BNP PARIBAS (and its subsidiaries) shall (will) not therefore be liable for the message if modified. Please note that certain functions and services for BNP Paribas may be performed by BNP Paribas RCC, Inc.
