SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS)

2009-05-19 Thread Gennadiy Khramov
Hi,
I try configure HSM and SANergy on linux. And i couldn't install SANergy
MDC on CentOS.
First i tried install all on CentOS 4 (2.6.9-78). In IBM documentation i
found than MDC works with linux kernel 2.6 only if filesystem EXT3 type.
But HSM needs gpfs filesystem =(.
So I decided install another linux system CentOS 3 (it has kernel version
2.4.21-50.EL) and there install MDC. But installation writes that :
The SANergy MDC will not be installed.  This kernel is not supported.
Only the client will be installed.

what may it need else? or what is my mistake?
may be there are more simple ways to make HSM with SANergy?

Best Regards,
Khramov Gennadiy
gkhra...@computel.ru


Re: SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS)

2009-05-19 Thread Remco Post

Hi,

I think you'll learn that GPFS provides everything SANergy does, plus
reliability and some more neat features. I don't think you'll actually
need the SANergy MDC to do what you want to do. I have a very strong
opinion on SANergy, and that is that you don't want to use it, not
even if your life depended on it (and if your life does depend on
sanergy, boy, you're in trouble ;-)).

Anyway, we might be better able to help you if you'd tell us what your
final goal (in terms of functionality) is.

On 19 mei 2009, at 11:01, Gennadiy Khramov wrote:


Hi,
I try configure HSM and SANergy on linux. And i couldn't install
SANergy
MDC on CentOS.
First i tried install all on CentOS 4 (2.6.9-78). In IBM
documentation i
found than MDC works with linux kernel 2.6 only if filesystem EXT3
type.
But HSM needs gpfs filesystem =(.
So I decided install another linux system CentOS 3 (it has kernel
version
2.4.21-50.EL) and there install MDC. But installation writes that :
The SANergy MDC will not be installed.  This kernel is not supported.
Only the client will be installed.

what may it need else? or what is my mistake?
may be there are more simple ways to make HSM with SANergy?

Best Regards,
Khramov Gennadiy
gkhra...@computel.ru


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Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards

Remco Post
r.p...@plcs.nl
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Re: SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS)

2009-05-19 Thread Gennadiy Khramov
Hi,
I read about gpfs possibilities and would be happy use only it :)
But it's more complex.
I need make three-level storage system (fc disks-fata disks-tape). First
level (fc-disk pool) contains user's data. Obsolescent data must migrate
to second level (fata-disk pool), and then (if needed) to tapes.
All data must be transmitted over SAN. For all systems data-flow will be
transparent, and by user request data must return to first level stg pool.


How i see that solution.
HSM decides transparent data migration task.
TSM fo SAN can write only to libraries, so SANergy helps transfer data to
disks (from fc-disks to fata disks and backwards).
And at end TSM for SAN is responsible for transmitting data to tapes (if
need send it from client) and back.
But i don't know - will this work? :)

In fact, intend using AIX (HACMP) for TSM server and Client systems. As i
know SANergy may works well on AIX. :)
But now, I have only linux and windows systems on ESX preparing
demo-solution, and also all issues and problems connected with change of
platform :).

Best Regards,
Khramov Gennadiy
gkhra...@computel.ru



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Hi,

I think you'll learn that GPFS provides everything SANergy does, plus
reliability and some more neat features. I don't think you'll actually
need the SANergy MDC to do what you want to do. I have a very strong
opinion on SANergy, and that is that you don't want to use it, not
even if your life depended on it (and if your life does depend on
sanergy, boy, you're in trouble ;-)).

Anyway, we might be better able to help you if you'd tell us what your
final goal (in terms of functionality) is.

On 19 mei 2009, at 11:01, Gennadiy Khramov wrote:

 Hi,
 I try configure HSM and SANergy on linux. And i couldn't install
 SANergy
 MDC on CentOS.
 First i tried install all on CentOS 4 (2.6.9-78). In IBM
 documentation i
 found than MDC works with linux kernel 2.6 only if filesystem EXT3
 type.
 But HSM needs gpfs filesystem =(.
 So I decided install another linux system CentOS 3 (it has kernel
 version
 2.4.21-50.EL) and there install MDC. But installation writes that :
 The SANergy MDC will not be installed.  This kernel is not supported.
 Only the client will be installed.

 what may it need else? or what is my mistake?
 may be there are more simple ways to make HSM with SANergy?
 
 Best Regards,
 Khramov Gennadiy
 gkhra...@computel.ru

--
Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards

Remco Post
r.p...@plcs.nl
+31 6 24821 622


Re: SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS)

2009-05-19 Thread Remco Post

You are aware that with TSM version 6.1 Lan-free is also formally
supported on GPFS? There was no code-change, just a formal support
statement, so you can get this to work with 5.5 as well

As for HSM, I'd think that either requiests are so small that you
don't mind using TCP/IP or so large that you don't mind writing
directly to tape.

On 19 mei 2009, at 12:59, Gennadiy Khramov wrote:


Hi,
I read about gpfs possibilities and would be happy use only it :)
But it's more complex.
I need make three-level storage system (fc disks-fata disks-tape).
First
level (fc-disk pool) contains user's data. Obsolescent data must
migrate
to second level (fata-disk pool), and then (if needed) to tapes.
All data must be transmitted over SAN. For all systems data-flow
will be
transparent, and by user request data must return to first level stg
pool.


How i see that solution.
HSM decides transparent data migration task.
TSM fo SAN can write only to libraries, so SANergy helps transfer
data to
disks (from fc-disks to fata disks and backwards).
And at end TSM for SAN is responsible for transmitting data to tapes
(if
need send it from client) and back.
But i don't know - will this work? :)

In fact, intend using AIX (HACMP) for TSM server and Client systems.
As i
know SANergy may works well on AIX. :)
But now, I have only linux and windows systems on ESX preparing
demo-solution, and also all issues and problems connected with
change of
platform :).

Best Regards,
Khramov Gennadiy
gkhra...@computel.ru



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Hi,

I think you'll learn that GPFS provides everything SANergy does, plus
reliability and some more neat features. I don't think you'll actually
need the SANergy MDC to do what you want to do. I have a very strong
opinion on SANergy, and that is that you don't want to use it, not
even if your life depended on it (and if your life does depend on
sanergy, boy, you're in trouble ;-)).

Anyway, we might be better able to help you if you'd tell us what your
final goal (in terms of functionality) is.

On 19 mei 2009, at 11:01, Gennadiy Khramov wrote:


Hi,
I try configure HSM and SANergy on linux. And i couldn't install
SANergy
MDC on CentOS.
First i tried install all on CentOS 4 (2.6.9-78). In IBM
documentation i
found than MDC works with linux kernel 2.6 only if filesystem EXT3
type.
But HSM needs gpfs filesystem =(.
So I decided install another linux system CentOS 3 (it has kernel
version
2.4.21-50.EL) and there install MDC. But installation writes that :
The SANergy MDC will not be installed.  This kernel is not supported.
Only the client will be installed.

what may it need else? or what is my mistake?
may be there are more simple ways to make HSM with SANergy?

Best Regards,
Khramov Gennadiy
gkhra...@computel.ru


--
Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards

Remco Post
r.p...@plcs.nl
+31 6 24821 622


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Re: SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS)

2009-05-19 Thread Gennadiy Khramov
Yes i found that tsm lan-free 5.5 woks with gpfs. But in real model gpfs
wouldn't be used, that's why i looking for another ways.

Well, files not so small for transfering over TCP/IP, but consumer needs
fast access for recently migrated data. So he determined such conditions
and set task and I solve it.
Though decision of this problem interesting per se.
I've tested that SANergy works with TSM BA Client well (who would doubt :)
), but my chief dosen't sure that HSM will works also fine.
Do I correctly understand, that HSM uses TSM BA Client functions for
transfer migration data (all options for hsm declaring in clients
dsm.sys)?

Best Regards,
Khramov Gennadiy
gkhra...@computel.ru



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You are aware that with TSM version 6.1 Lan-free is also formally
supported on GPFS? There was no code-change, just a formal support
statement, so you can get this to work with 5.5 as well

As for HSM, I'd think that either requiests are so small that you
don't mind using TCP/IP or so large that you don't mind writing
directly to tape.

On 19 mei 2009, at 12:59, Gennadiy Khramov wrote:

 Hi,
 I read about gpfs possibilities and would be happy use only it :)
 But it's more complex.
 I need make three-level storage system (fc disks-fata disks-tape).
 First
 level (fc-disk pool) contains user's data. Obsolescent data must
 migrate
 to second level (fata-disk pool), and then (if needed) to tapes.
 All data must be transmitted over SAN. For all systems data-flow
 will be
 transparent, and by user request data must return to first level stg
 pool.


 How i see that solution.
 HSM decides transparent data migration task.
 TSM fo SAN can write only to libraries, so SANergy helps transfer
 data to
 disks (from fc-disks to fata disks and backwards).
 And at end TSM for SAN is responsible for transmitting data to tapes
 (if
 need send it from client) and back.
 But i don't know - will this work? :)

 In fact, intend using AIX (HACMP) for TSM server and Client systems.
 As i
 know SANergy may works well on AIX. :)
 But now, I have only linux and windows systems on ESX preparing
 demo-solution, and also all issues and problems connected with
 change of
 platform :).
 
 Best Regards,
 Khramov Gennadiy
 gkhra...@computel.ru



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 Hi,

 I think you'll learn that GPFS provides everything SANergy does, plus
 reliability and some more neat features. I don't think you'll actually
 need the SANergy MDC to do what you want to do. I have a very strong
 opinion on SANergy, and that is that you don't want to use it, not
 even if your life depended on it (and if your life does depend on
 sanergy, boy, you're in trouble ;-)).

 Anyway, we might be better able to help you if you'd tell us what your
 final goal (in terms of functionality) is.

 On 19 mei 2009, at 11:01, Gennadiy Khramov wrote:

 Hi,
 I try configure HSM and SANergy on linux. And i couldn't install
 SANergy
 MDC on CentOS.
 First i tried install all on CentOS 4 (2.6.9-78). In IBM
 documentation i
 found than MDC works with linux kernel 2.6 only if filesystem EXT3
 type.
 But HSM needs gpfs filesystem =(.
 So I decided install another linux system CentOS 3 (it has kernel
 version
 2.4.21-50.EL) and there install MDC. But installation writes that :
 The SANergy MDC will not be installed.  This kernel is not supported.
 Only the client will be installed.

 what may it need else? or what is my mistake?
 may be there are more simple ways to make HSM with SANergy?
 
 Best Regards,
 Khramov Gennadiy
 gkhra...@computel.ru

 --
 Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards

 Remco Post
 r.p...@plcs.nl
 +31 6 24821 622

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