deduplication status

2014-07-28 Thread Tyree, David
I've searched the archives but I can't really find the answer 
I'm looking for.
Running on version 6.3.1.0.
I have a primary storage pool running dedup. I run the ID 
DEDUP command, the reclamation command, and the expiration command throughout 
the daily cycle.

I run the Q STGP F=D command to check the Duplicate Data Not 
Stored numbers and I'm getting 39% right now. Which sounds pretty good, I 
guess.

My question is how to I tell if I'm running the dedup processes 
aggressively enough. Can I do something to increase that number?
I realize that the dedup processes are never really finished 
because of the new data that is constantly coming in and old data is getting 
expired.

Is there something I can look at to be able to tell if I need 
to adjust the ID DUP commands I'm running? More processes, less processes or 
change how long I run it...

Something that tells me how much data has not been deduped yet 
versus how much has been processed.

Is that kind of info accessible?

David Tyree
System Administrator
South Georgia Medical Center
229.333.1155


Re: deduplication status

2014-07-28 Thread Prather, Wanda
39 is actually not a great number; it means you are getting less than 2 for 1 
dedup.

Unless you have backups running hard 24 hours a day, those dedup processes 
should finish.
When you do Q PROC, if the processes have any work to do, they show as ACTIVE, 
if not they show IDLE.

I'd think that at some point during the day, you should have at least one of 
them go idle, then you know you have been as aggressive as you can be.  If not 
I'd add processes until you can see some idle time on at least one of them.

Just my 2cents.
W


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David
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Subject: [ADSM-L] deduplication status

I've searched the archives but I can't really find the answer 
I'm looking for.
Running on version 6.3.1.0.
I have a primary storage pool running dedup. I run the ID 
DEDUP command, the reclamation command, and the expiration command throughout 
the daily cycle.

I run the Q STGP F=D command to check the Duplicate Data Not 
Stored numbers and I'm getting 39% right now. Which sounds pretty good, I 
guess.

My question is how to I tell if I'm running the dedup processes 
aggressively enough. Can I do something to increase that number?
I realize that the dedup processes are never really finished 
because of the new data that is constantly coming in and old data is getting 
expired.

Is there something I can look at to be able to tell if I need 
to adjust the ID DUP commands I'm running? More processes, less processes or 
change how long I run it...

Something that tells me how much data has not been deduped yet 
versus how much has been processed.

Is that kind of info accessible?

David Tyree
System Administrator
South Georgia Medical Center
229.333.1155


Deduplication Status

2010-04-21 Thread Andrew Carlson
I have been looking through the commands and outputs of commands,
trying to find something to tell me how much deduplication has
occurred.  Is there one there I am missing?  Thanks.

--
Andy Carlson
---
Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month,
The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.


Re: Deduplication Status

2010-04-21 Thread Mark Yakushev
Hi Andy,

Are you doing server- or client-side deduplication? What are the versions
of your TSM Client and Server?

Regards,
Mark L. Yakushev




From: Andrew Carlson naclos...@gmail.com
To:   ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
Date: 04/21/2010 12:36 PM
Subject:[ADSM-L] Deduplication Status



I have been looking through the commands and outputs of commands,
trying to find something to tell me how much deduplication has
occurred.  Is there one there I am missing?  Thanks.

--
Andy Carlson
---
Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month,
The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.


Re: Deduplication Status

2010-04-21 Thread Andrew Carlson
Server side dedup, Server V6.2, client V6.2.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mark Yakushev bar...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 Hi Andy,

 Are you doing server- or client-side deduplication? What are the versions
 of your TSM Client and Server?

 Regards,
 Mark L. Yakushev




 From: Andrew Carlson naclos...@gmail.com
 To:   ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
 Date: 04/21/2010 12:36 PM
 Subject:    [ADSM-L] Deduplication Status



 I have been looking through the commands and outputs of commands,
 trying to find something to tell me how much deduplication has
 occurred.  Is there one there I am missing?  Thanks.

 --
 Andy Carlson
 ---
 Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month,
 The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.




-- 
Andy Carlson
---
Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month,
The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.


Re: Deduplication Status

2010-04-21 Thread Colwell, William F.
Hi Andy,

there are 2 sources for this information.  A column in the stgpools table has 
the MB saved -

tsm: select cast(stgpool_name as char(20)) as Name, -
 cast(space_saved_mb / 1024.0 / 1024.0 as decimal(6,2)) as T 
Saved from stgpools

Name  T Saved
- -
BKP_0
BKP_1A0.00
BKP_1B0.00
BKP_2 24.38


Or 'q stg f=d' will show it -

tsm: q stg bkp_2 f=d

   Storage Pool Name: BKP_2
   Storage Pool Type: Primary
   Device Class Name: VT01_50GB
  Estimated Capacity: 50,775 G
...
...
...
   Deduplicate Data?: Yes
Processes For Identifying Duplicates: 0
   Duplicate Data Not Stored: 24,972 G (56%)


Hope this helps,

Bill Colwell
Draper Lab


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew 
Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:13 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Deduplication Status

Server side dedup, Server V6.2, client V6.2.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mark Yakushev bar...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 Hi Andy,

 Are you doing server- or client-side deduplication? What are the versions
 of your TSM Client and Server?

 Regards,
 Mark L. Yakushev




 From: Andrew Carlson naclos...@gmail.com
 To:   ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
 Date: 04/21/2010 12:36 PM
 Subject:    [ADSM-L] Deduplication Status



 I have been looking through the commands and outputs of commands,
 trying to find something to tell me how much deduplication has
 occurred.  Is there one there I am missing?  Thanks.

 --
 Andy Carlson
 ---
 Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month,
 The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.




-- 
Andy Carlson
---
Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month,
The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.


Re: Deduplication Status

2010-04-21 Thread Andrew Carlson
Thanks for all the answers.  I finally figured out why I wasn't seeing
anything . . . it helps to read everything . . .

I didn't realize the the duplicate data is not released until
reclamation processing.

Thanks all.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Colwell, William F.
bcolw...@draper.com wrote:
 Hi Andy,

 there are 2 sources for this information.  A column in the stgpools table has 
 the MB saved -

 tsm: select cast(stgpool_name as char(20)) as Name, -
                 cast(space_saved_mb / 1024.0 / 1024.0 as decimal(6,2)) as T 
 Saved from stgpools

 Name                      T Saved
 -     -
 BKP_0
 BKP_1A                    0.00
 BKP_1B                    0.00
 BKP_2                     24.38


 Or 'q stg f=d' will show it -

 tsm: q stg bkp_2 f=d

                   Storage Pool Name: BKP_2
                   Storage Pool Type: Primary
                   Device Class Name: VT01_50GB
                  Estimated Capacity: 50,775 G
 ...
 ...
 ...
                   Deduplicate Data?: Yes
 Processes For Identifying Duplicates: 0
           Duplicate Data Not Stored: 24,972 G (56%)


 Hope this helps,

 Bill Colwell
 Draper Lab


 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of 
 Andrew Carlson
 Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:13 PM
 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: Re: Deduplication Status

 Server side dedup, Server V6.2, client V6.2.

 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mark Yakushev bar...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 Hi Andy,

 Are you doing server- or client-side deduplication? What are the versions
 of your TSM Client and Server?

 Regards,
 Mark L. Yakushev




 From: Andrew Carlson naclos...@gmail.com
 To:   ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
 Date: 04/21/2010 12:36 PM
 Subject:    [ADSM-L] Deduplication Status



 I have been looking through the commands and outputs of commands,
 trying to find something to tell me how much deduplication has
 occurred.  Is there one there I am missing?  Thanks.

 --
 Andy Carlson
 ---
 Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month,
 The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.




 --
 Andy Carlson
 ---
 Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month,
 The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.




-- 
Andy Carlson
---
Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month,
The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.