Useunicodnames YES or NO
Hi, we have directories with accented characters in our directories names and also in file names. What should be coded in the dsm.opt, using TSM client 4.2.1.20 for W2K and TSM server 4.2.1.7? Same question using TSM server 4.1.2.4 ? Is it USEUNICODNAME YES or NO ? What are the main reasons for using YES or NO, sorry but doc is not so clear for me ! Thanks a lot for helping René Lambelet Nestec S.A. / Central Support Center 55, av. Nestlé CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) *+41'21'924'35'43 7+41'21'924'28'88 * K4-117 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our site: http://www.nestle.com This message is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential.
Re: Netware 5.0 Critical Error
Jesse, Update Your TSA to TSAup8 availble by Novel at there website. And Don't use the base code client 4.2.1.0, check for the patch level 19 or higher. It works fine with me (nw 5.0 with sp6a) Regards Marco Sjerps UMG IT Benelux Universal International Music Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jesse Sanaseros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: zaterdag 9 maart 2002 0:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Netware 5.0 Critical Error Hello, I need help. I'm running TSM Client 4.2.1 on Netware 5.0, I get the following message when my backup starts both manually (incremental) and on a schedule. Starting the schedule does not cause the problem. It happens when the backup actually starts backing up. RIOGRANDE:DSMC Loading module DSMC.NLM Tivoli Storage Manager Version 4.02a August 22, 2001 Licensed Materials - Property of IBM (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1990, 2001. Auto-loading module ACPSAAS1.NLM TSM NetWare for SAA 1.3 Stub Version 4.02a August 22, 2001 Licensed Materials - Property of IBM (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1990, 2001. Auto-loading module ACPSAAS2.NLM TSM NetWare for SAA 2.0 Stub Version 4.02a August 22, 2001 Licensed Materials - Property of IBM (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1990, 2001. Auto-loading module CLIBAUX.NLM Novell NLM Auxiliary Shim Version 1.23b June 6, 2001 Copyright (c) 1996-2001 by Novell, Inc. All rights reserved. CLibAux.NLM is a library that normally exports symbols needed to shim more sup- port atop CLib.NLM. None of these symbols is needed at present. CLibAux.NLM has been unloaded as unnecessary. Loading module DSBACKER.NLM NetWare 5.0 Directory Services Backup Version 6.05a August 20, 1999 Copyright 1993-1998 Novell, Inc. All rights reserved. Patents Pending. Module DSBACKER.NLM unloaded The running process will be suspended. 3-08-2002 5:37:11 pm:SERVER-5.0-4631 [nmID=1001C] WARNING! Server RIOGRANDE experienced a critical error. The offending process was suspended or recovered. However, services hosted by this server may have been affected. Jesse Sanaseros Information Services Network Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FLASH - Configuring TSM/Win2K for fibre channel LTO
A FLASH has recently been published on configuring TSM/Windows 2000 for fibre channel attached LTO library and drives. The FLASH is accessible at the Technical Support website. The URL for this FLASH is: http://w3-1.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/PubAllNum/Flash10151 Sam Giallanza.
Tape Library comparisons...
Hi guys, Do you have documents or do you know any sites regarding the comparison in terms of remote management, connectivity(FC/SCSI/Gigabit), drives (LTO), capacity, speed (access, searching, inventory), durability availability, easy for future expansion, etc. about the following libraries. - HP SureStore TL20/700 - Quamtum ATL P4000 - IBM 3584-L32 - StorageTek L700 - QualStar LTO TL - Adic Scalar 1000 TL We're on the stage of evaluating Tape Library Solution for site exisitng backup software, your information regarding this is very valuable. thanks in advance. Zosi Noriega ADNOC-UAE
Re: Session limiitation
Virus software takes a lot of memory and can really slow things down if it is checking the system at the time of the backup. -Original Message- From: William Rosette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Session limiitation I recently tried to backup up a Netware box straight to disk. I did this manually and opened 12 sessions (6 seperate backups). We had MacAfee running and are thinking that the combination of the two caused the Netware Client to reboot. It has a 100 MB card and I was trying to backup as fast as possible for a restore to a different box. The total of 88 GB was need to be backed up so that it could restore. I thought I could open as many sessions as I wanted since I was going straight to disk and then I would have done the same on the restore. Is there a known limitation on the client for open sessions according to the size of the box or otherwise? Would the backup have caused even remotely the Netware client to reboot? And for future use is there anyway of telling how many sessions to open on any box? Some guidelines or other? Thank you in advance.
Re: shrdynamic still skips a file
Do you see messages in the log saying it retries 4 times? If not your CHANGINGRETRIES is not what you think it is. If you do see it, then they need to slow down how often they update the file or you need to put it on faster disk, faster network connection, etc so that you can save it faster. -Original Message- From: Brown, Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: shrdynamic still skips a file Current specs are: Server: RS/6000, TSM 4.1.4.1, AIX 4.3.3 Client: TSM 4.1.4, AIX 4.3.3 Our vendor that supports the application running on this box wanted shrdynamic for serialization to back a large comma delimited file. Even though the management class associated with the file has shrdynamic set, it continues to skip the file because it changes in the middle of backup. From what I have read and the definitions below the file should get backed up but the integrity wouldn't necessarily be intact. Is that a wrong assumption? Shrdynamic Specifies that if the file or directory is being modified during a backup attempt, Tivoli Storage Manager backs up the file or directory during the last attempt even though the file or directory is being modified. Tivoli Storage Manager attempts to perform a backup as many as four times, depending on the value specified for the CHANGINGRETRIES client option. Dynamic Specifies that a file or directory is backed up on the first attempt by Tivoli Storage Manager, regardless of whether the file or directory is being modified during backup processing. Does anyone know why the file would continue to skip? If I need to provide more information please let me know. Bud Brown Information Services Systems Administrator 303-436-5986
Re: Tape backup verification
Tivoli is going to deliver Check Sum support in a future release. But, you have no way to read the tape back to verify the tape is good based on my understanding of the solution provided. The checksum is verified during the restore process or a copy from one storage pool to another. So, if you create a primary tape and then perform a backup command against the storage pool it is in to create another copy I suspect the checksum will be checked. If you use a high end drive there is parity and checksum already built in. -Original Message- From: William SO Ng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tape backup verification I'm new to TSM, so please be patient with me. Let say I backup directly from clients to tape, so my primary pool is tape and I do not use a disk pool. Since I cannot find verify command in TSM, so I wonder how TSM do the verification ? Is the data already been verified when it writes to tape ? If yes, by whom e.g. tape driver, OS, TSM ? If it is by tape driver or OS, this mean that it is OS or tape driver dependent. So some of the OS or tape driver MAY NOT verify the writing process, so there is no guarentee the data that backup is good ? If the verification is done by TSM, then how does TSM do the verfication, is it by checksum or read after write ? Thanks, Regards William Tivoli Software, IBM Software Group, IBM China/Hong Kong Limited 11/F, PCCW Tower, Taikoo Place, 979 King's Road, Hong Kong Internet : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 2825-7613Fax: 2825-0022 Bill Mansfield WMansfield@SOLUTIONTECHN To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OLOGY.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: Re: Tape backup verification Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/08/02 07:29 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager When you backup the primary storage pool to the copy storage pool, it will read the primary pool tape. In the event the primary tape is bad, you'll get a bunch of errors in the activity log. _ William Mansfield Senior Consultant Solution Technology, Inc William SO Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/2002 03:14 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Tape backup verification Hello everyone, I have some questions about backup verification and would like to seek some advice. When I backup using TSM, how can I verify that the backup is good ? What I mean is when TSM write to tape, how do I verify that the write-to-tape process is good. I come from VMS backup. In VMS, it has a command: BACKUP /VERIFY, which will write the file to tape, rewind the tape and read the backup file. This will ensure that the file I wrote to the tape is good. The disadvantage is backup time is much longer. How does TSM do backup verification ? By checksum, by rewind and read ? Is it possible to specifiy the verification method ? Regards William Tivoli Software, IBM Software Group, IBM China/Hong Kong Limited 11/F, PCCW Tower, Taikoo Place, 979 King's Road, Hong Kong Internet : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 2825-7613Fax: 2825-0022
Re: LAN Free backups
It is not in the Storage Agent. It is in the dsm.opt of the backup archive client. -Original Message- From: Joe Cascanette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LAN Free backups Yes, the TSM Client (4.2.1.20 windows2000) has this in the dsm.opt file. I dont believe there is an option for the storage agent to indicate LANFREE usage though. -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 3/6/2002 3:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: LAN Free backups Do you have ENABLELANFREE YES turned on? -Original Message- From: Joe Cascanette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LAN Free backups I am having some problems with the LAN Free backups. Server is 4.2.1.12 (Windows 2000), client is 4.2.1.20, SAN client is installed and I guess setup. I see the node in question connecting to the TSM Server (under q ses I can see the node and its session type is server). When I launch the client it does not give me a LANFree path failed. Using LAN Path anymore. I have mapped all the drives to this server to use. Is there something missing?. When the backups start no tape is loaded, it goes to the storage pool (unless it is over 500Megs which goes directly to tape). This is also causing a problem when I try to restore to the original location for this SAN attached server - File is unavailable to the server. So I need to launch the client (login as this node) on another machine and save the files to a different location. TSM server is connected to the library via fibre switch. All nodes for LAN free backups are connected to this fibre switch and are able to see all the drives in the TSM admin GUI. The service TSM StorageAgent1 is created and is running. Thanks for any help Joe
Re: LAN Free backups
On 08-Mar-02 Joe Cascanette wrote: H...Another item I will have to purchase from Tivoli. im sure my company will love me now. I heard last week that SANergy will be part of TSM, starting with TSM 5.1, which will be announced April 9th. Cheers, Henk (who can't wait)
Include.systemobjects, which TSM version ?
Hello, please tell me which version supports the new include statement INCLUDE.SYSTEMOBJECTS class_name I tried using TSM server 4.2.1.7 (AIX) and TSM client 4.2.1.20 (W2K), unfortunately every system object remains bound to the DEFAULT management class ! Result: much too many inactive system objects... With my best sentiments, René Lambelet Nestec S.A. / Central Support Center 55, av. Nestlé CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) *+41'21'924'35'43 7+41'21'924'28'88 * K4-117 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our site: http://www.nestle.com This message is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential.
Re: Point in Time Backups
This may be totally unsuitable for your environment, but actually, I had been thinking about the properties of 'REUSEDELAY' and database backups recently, and I think maybe it could be used to create something to this effect for your customers at large; I wouldn't know how to drill it down to individual nodes, however. Also, because of the way it works, it would only really be useful for archival purposes, not for data you anticipate needing to restore on a regular basis. The actual restore would be a severe pain :) The idea goes something like this: 1. Assume you have the following pools -- DISKDATA, TAPEDATA, and COPYTAPE. 2. DISKDATA is obviously a disk pool, TAPEDATA is your primary tape media, and COPYTAPE is your backup storage pool for both DISKDATA and COPYTAPE. 3. Define a third storage pool, COPYPIT -- copy-point-in-time. Do your normal client backup/migration/stgpool backup with DISKDATA, TAPEDATA, COPYTAPE. Whenever you want to do a point in time backup, do _another_ backup of DISKDATA and TAPEDATA onto COPYPIT. Take a database snapshot. Send COPYPIT and the DBSNAPSHOT offsite, and leave them offsite forever (or out of library). Take note of which volumes and database snapshots correspond to which dates -- you might want to store these offsite too. In the future, if you need to restore from one of the point in time backups, recall the tapes and the snapshot you took from the appropriate day, and you should be able to restore to that point in time. Drawbacks: 1. You have to be very, VERY careful about reclamation. The TSM server is going to be expiring these files, and you'll likely have no real way of knowing which volumes to reclaim. More than likely, your best, safest bet is to write off the tapes, and never reclaim them. 2. Restoration is a HUGE, MASSIVE pain. You'll need to recall the tapes, restore the database, then restore the storage pool, etc, before you can even think about restoring the data. This is certainly no help if you need to be able to restore from these PIT backups on a moments notice. You'll also need lots of scratch tapes to do the restoration, and you'll have to take precautions to make sure that you don't accidentally restore over current data -- probably by removing all 'current' tapes from the library, or using a totally different machine and compatible library. 3. I don't think you can easily do this only for a subset of nodes. Advantages: 1. Easier to maintain than doing more than a certain amount of backupsets. Comments? I may need to do something like this in the future, and if anyone has any reasons why this is not really workable, it'd save me a headache having to find it out the hard way. And yes, I know this is a horrible kludge. :) Thanks, Kyle Sparger
Re: HSM + GPFS/HACMP
HiIf you mean running ordinary TSM HSM on a aix machine, all RS/6000 and P-Series servers supports this.However, I don't know the limitations when running HSM on a HACMP cluster environment.We're running HSM on two standalone clients, one P-Series 640, and one P-Series 610. This works very well.Best RegardsDaniel Sparrman---Daniel SparrmanExist i Stockholm ABBergkllavgen 31D192 79 SOLLENTUNAVxel: 08 - 754 98 00Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51Jan-Frode Myklebust [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]2002-03-08 20:49Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: bcc: Subject: HSM + GPFS/HACMP We had planned to run HSM on our GPFS/SSA/HACMP cluster of 3 p690s, andsuddenly IBM discovered that HSM is only supported on SP-nodes.We tried installing it, but the installation scripts bombed outbecause it couldn't find some SP tools. I'm suspecting that it's onlya matter of getting the software installed/configured correctly, andthen it should work, but this might be because I don't really know howSP systems differ from the p690 here.Does anybody have any insight to share? -jf
Re: LANFREE Backups - Feedback?: TDP for Solaris/EMC/Oracle, how it works
I do not know how this perception got going, but I will see if I can straighten it out. The TDP for Solaris/EMC for Oracle has nothing to do with the TSM Server OS. The TDP runs on the Solaris machine and uses either the LAN client to send the data over the network to the TSM server or the SAN Agent directly to the tape drives. Remember RMAN is what drives the backup here. It calls the module that communicates to TSM APIs. Of course the TSM Server can reside on the Solaris box. I think the confusion here is surrounding who is going to read the data that TimeFinder creates. Either the original Solaris machine or another Solaris machine has to read it. It cannot be an AIX machine. I hope this helps. If I am wrong, someone straighten me out. Maybe, these misconceptions are the reason why no one is buying the stuff. -Original Message- From: Denis L'Huillier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LANFREE Backups - Feedback? Jason, I completely agree with you. The majority of our databases are running on Solaris attached to EMC. But, I think that the percentage of TSM Servers running on Solaris versus running on AIX is a lot more for AIX. I would venture to say that AIX is the preferred operating system for TSM. This, I feel is the limitation. Not the fact that it's Solaris only, but the fact that TSM will not work with TDP for EMC if TSM is running on AIX. It has to be running on Solaris. Regards, Denis L. L'Huiller 973-360-7739 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enterprise Storage Forms - http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html J Bamford tsmtech@BLUEYONTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DER.CO.UK cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: LANFREE Backups - Feedback? Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 03/05/2002 10:18 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Yes I believe when Tivoli looked at the development of the Timefinder function they looked at the market first. It was concluded that an EMC/Sun solution represented the larger market share of what customer have installed. ie there are more EMC/Sun installed sites than there are EMC/Aix sites.Mainly because Aix sites tend to be IBM disk solutions. Therefore if you wnat to sell a product, develop for the majority first. If people like it and want it so make some more ! Vendors do make software for there own products, so hopefully I see you purchasing lots of ESS soon then !! There's little point in doing costly developing for a product that no one wants. Yes the TDP for EMC has a VERY limited scole for configuration, and no RS/6000 isn't in there I believe. Specific products like this tend to be demand driven. From what I understand the current TDP/EMC saw a very limited uptake by customers. There has also been little demand to expand is platform coverage in this space. The TDP for EMC was also on the market before the TDP for ESS/Flashcopy. Thinking back I believe that is because EMC had the timefinder on the market before IBM/ESS and flashcopy. It was a while after before Tivoli got it's hands on working Flashcopy to do any sort of development, and these thing take time. Back to the original point LAN-Free with TSM works backup and restore apart from the above, and I'm running a 2 day workshop in the UK next week to show it working and give hands on to those who want to know more. Jason PS. These are my personal views and not that of IBM or Tivoli Corp. - Original Message - From: Denis L'Huillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:37 PM Subject: Re: LANFREE Backups - Feedback? Also, as an fyi... Tivoli also informed us that TDP for oracle on EMC is not supported when TSM is running on an AIX RS/6000.. Kinda funny huh? It's actually only supported for Oracle databases running on a Solaris system and TSM ALSO must be running on Solaris. Don't vendors usually make things work for their products first then make it compatible with other systems? I think IBM/Tivoli forgot to get together on this one. And, from what I understand, which may not be accurate... The TDP for EMC Oracle is used only for backing up a BCV (Business Continuity Volume - like a ESS flash copy). So, to use the TDP you can do online backups of a copied volume... h... no thanks. Regards, Denis L. L'Huiller 973-360-7739 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enterprise Storage Forms - http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html J Bamford tsmtech@BLUEYONTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DER.CO.UK cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: LANFREE
Re: Select Stmts. in TSM: Manuals
We are going to submit a requirement to Tivoli to provide a SQL Statements Manual solution. -Original Message- From: ARhoads [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Select Stmts. in TSM Holly, I use the DB2 SQL docs from the IBM software site. Between the TSM online help (that shows you available verbs/syntax) the DB2 docs I can generally figure out whatever I need. Please remember that TSM is not the best SQL engine should not be overused during otherwise busy periods. Steffan - Original Message - From: Peppers, Holly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: Select Stmts. in TSM Has anybody tried to do a join in the TSM tables? I went looking thru the help utility and the manuals, but did not see the syntax of how to do this. Let me know please. Thanks. Holly L. Peppers Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc., and its subsidiary and affiliate companies are not responsible for errors or omissions in this e-mail message. Any personal comments made in this e-mail do not reflect the views of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc.
TDP for Lotus Notes
Hi i am searching for the TDP Client for Lotus Notes. I have the lic file but i need the program. where can i download the latest update? Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is
Scheduled archive shell script returns no error, but archive script failed !
Hi Gurus ! I noticed a strange behaviour of our TSM server (v 4.1.3.0, on AIX 4.3.3) : I defined a client schedule loking like this Policy Domain Name: SP Schedule Name: SERVER_MIGRATION Description: server move 4 og. to 1 ug. Action: Command Options: Objects: /home/tsm/dsmc_archive.sh Priority: 5 Start Date/Time: 10.03.2002 00:00:00 Duration: 10 Hour(s) Period: 1 Day(s) Day of Week: Saturday Expiration: 18.03.2002 23:59:59 Last Update by (administrator): SAX021 Last Update Date/Time: 11.03.2002 09:43:18 Managing profile: Querying events this morning showed me this schedule as : Scheduled Start Actual Start Schedule Name Node Name Status - - - 10.03.2002 00:00:00 10.03.2002 00:00:07 SERVER_MIGRA- PACRS170 Completed TION But I found there was an error in our /home/tsm/dsmc_archive.sh shell script, that caused it to fail. The script looks like : dsmc archive -archmc=migartion_archive -subdir=yes -quiet -archsyml=no /sapmnt/T21/ dsmc archive -archmc=migration_archive -subdir=yes -quiet -archsyml=no /usr/sap/put/ In the first line of the script, I made a typo, specifiying an inexistant management class, therefore the script failed ! How is it possible that TSM returns me completed, as this script failed ? Is it a bug ? Is there any way checkin the real status of the schedule, without logging on the node to verify dsmsched.err ? Thanks in advance ! Arnaud =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Arnaud Brion, Panalpina Management Ltd., IT Group | | Viaduktstrasse 42, P.O. Box, 4002 Basel - Switzerland | | Phone: +41 61 226 19 78 / Fax: +41 61 226 17 01 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Inspecting over 200,000 objects with WinNT2000 client ( takes 8 ho urs)
Hi, we had the same problem in our WinNT (file-server Intel Pentium pro 2*200MHz) environment, but the problem was located in the LAN. In the end the switches to our HOST (OS/390) were to slow for the traffic. Since we use the OSA-channel to store to our TSM-Servers in OS/390, the aggregate network rate is at 650kb/s - 1,6MB/s! -- regards / Mit freundlichen Gruessen Joachim Stumpf Datev eG Nuremberg - Germany Alex Paschal [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Freitag, 8. März 2002, 19:48:41, CET): Demetrius, you beat me to it. To be exact, we've found that having Scan Outbound Files checked in McAfee really slowed down the scan. Letting McAfee stay up with Scan Outbound Files disabled resolved our problem. Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -Original Message- From: Malbrough, Demetrius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Inspecting over 200,000 objects with WinNT2000 client ( takes 8 ho urs) Make sure you are not running your ANTI-VIRUS Software (McAfee) during the nightly incrementals -Demetrius -Original Message- From: PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Inspecting over 200,000 objects with WinNT2000 client (takes 8 ho urs) Total time taken 7hrs does not mean to xfer 818mb it took 7hrs with 11mb/sec. Was this in que.I have NT,hp,aix clients WITH MORE THAN THESE objects in 3.7.3 But all is ok . I think it was in que or ur n/w packets are dropped. Look for these.This is what my thought says. Balanand -Original Message- From: Poetzsch,Robert E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Inspecting over 200,000 objects with WinNT2000 client (takes 8 ho urs) Here is my recent sched.log file showing almost 8 hours to process 279,057 objects. I'm thinking that someone has some insight on how to Optimize a Windows client for more efficient nightly backups. Also, there is an error message about TCP/IP connection failure; which I believe is related to our dsm.opt configuration due to a time-out condition. The FS4500 Client is using Windows 2000 Server OS and TSM 3.7.1 Client, but we will soon upgrade to TSM version 4.2.1 to see if this helps. Thanks, -Bob Poetzsch Tivoli Storage Manager - System Administrator UCONN Health Center Farmington, CT 06030-5205 ___ 03/08/2002 05:34:46 Successful incremental backup of '\\fs4500\e$' 03/08/2002 05:34:47 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS BEGIN 03/08/2002 05:34:47 Session established with server TSM: AIX-RS/6000 03/08/2002 05:34:47 Server Version 3, Release 7, Level 1.0 03/08/2002 05:34:47 Data compression forced off by the server 03/08/2002 05:34:47 Server date/time: 03/08/2002 05:32:23 Last access: 03/07/2002 21:41:48 03/08/2002 05:34:47 Total number of objects inspected: 279,057 03/08/2002 05:34:47 Total number of objects backed up:1,805 03/08/2002 05:34:47 Total number of objects updated: 1 03/08/2002 05:34:47 Total number of objects rebound: 0 03/08/2002 05:34:47 Total number of objects deleted: 37,519 03/08/2002 05:34:47 Total number of objects failed: 0 03/08/2002 05:34:47 Total number of bytes transferred: 818.24 MB 03/08/2002 05:34:47 Data transfer time: 73.79 sec 03/08/2002 05:34:47 Network data transfer rate:11,353.75 KB/sec 03/08/2002 05:34:48 Aggregate data transfer rate: 29.56 KB/sec 03/08/2002 05:34:48 Objects compressed by:0% 03/08/2002 05:34:48 Elapsed processing time: 07:52:15 03/08/2002 05:34:48 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS END 03/08/2002 05:34:48 ANS1017E Session rejected: TCP/IP connection failure
Re: Useunicodnames YES or NO
Hi René, with both the server and the client on 4.2 level, it seems that unicode gets always used (at least with new nodes). That's fine as all problems we had with national characters should be fixed now. There's a problem with displaying the filespace names in dsmadmc (q files resulted in ... being displayed instead of the filespace name). This problem is fixed in 4.2.1.8 and later. When not using 4.2 on both server and client, I think the old rules for USEUNICODE are still effective, but I haven't found much on this in Tivoli documentation. Best regards, Michael -- Michael Bartl, Dipl. Inform. (FH) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Backup Services, IT Germany/Austria Tel: +49-89-92699-806 Cable Wireless Deutschland GmbH. Fax: +49-89-92699-302 Landsberger Str. 155, D-80687 Muenchen http://www.cw.com/de Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-IS/CIS wrote: Hi, we have directories with accented characters in our directories names and also in file names. What should be coded in the dsm.opt, using TSM client 4.2.1.20 for W2K and TSM server 4.2.1.7? Same question using TSM server 4.1.2.4 ? Is it USEUNICODNAME YES or NO ? What are the main reasons for using YES or NO, sorry but doc is not so clear for me ! Thanks a lot for helping René Lambelet Nestec S.A. / Central Support Center 55, av. Nestlé CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) *+41'21'924'35'43 7+41'21'924'28'88 * K4-117 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our site: http://www.nestle.com This message is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential.
Jeroen Cromsigt/D268525/IS/DLVG is niet op zijn/haar kantoor.
Ik ben niet op kantoor vanaf 09-03-2002 tot 03-04-2002. Ik zal uw bericht doornemen wanneer ik terug ben. Voor ADSM, TSM, ESS, LTO, HSM of andere storage zaken, benader mijn collega's Luuk Kleibrink tst 020-594 2043 of Sierk Andela 020-594 2472.
Tape Library Capacity Requirement.
Please help me to calculate the require capacity of the tape library. I have 3.7 TB of data and 4 versions of Archive (with 30 days retention period) and 1 version of backup (full backup) will be implemented. How can i calculate the required capacity? Thanks for your help in advance. Zosi Noriega ADNOC-UAE.
Re: Select Stmts. in TSM: Manuals
On the 3rd ADSM Workshop in Karlsruhe 1998 there was a fine lecture on the SQL interface by Andy Raibeck. All handouts from this Workshop are available at http://www.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/Uni/RZ/Dienste/ADSM/WORKSHOPS/3rd/handouts/ Andys handouts: http://www.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/Uni/RZ/Dienste/ADSM/WORKSHOPS/3rd/handouts/raibeck/index.htm and http://www.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/Uni/RZ/Dienste/ADSM/WORKSHOPS/3rd/handouts/raibeck.ps As TSM developed since then, getting an update would be fine, but the old document is still very helpful. Regards, Michael -- Michael Bartl, Dipl. Inform. (FH) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Backup Services, IT Germany/Austria Tel: +49-89-92699-806 Cable Wireless Deutschland GmbH. Fax: +49-89-92699-302 Landsberger Str. 155, D-80687 Muenchen http://www.cw.com/de Seay, Paul wrote: We are going to submit a requirement to Tivoli to provide a SQL Statements Manual solution. -Original Message- From: ARhoads [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Select Stmts. in TSM Holly, I use the DB2 SQL docs from the IBM software site. Between the TSM online help (that shows you available verbs/syntax) the DB2 docs I can generally figure out whatever I need. Please remember that TSM is not the best SQL engine should not be overused during otherwise busy periods. Steffan - Original Message - From: Peppers, Holly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: Select Stmts. in TSM Has anybody tried to do a join in the TSM tables? I went looking thru the help utility and the manuals, but did not see the syntax of how to do this. Let me know please. Thanks. Holly L. Peppers Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc., and its subsidiary and affiliate companies are not responsible for errors or omissions in this e-mail message. Any personal comments made in this e-mail do not reflect the views of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc.
Re: AS/400 TSM
I wrote: Does anyone has experience, i.e. right now, in using TSM for AS/400 backup's? Is there a simple way to do that and what is the performance? Last week I heard there will be a AS/400 backupclient in TSM 5.1. Is that true Tivoli guru's? Cheers, Henk ten Have.
Re: Sybase TSM
Hello Henk, We have dozens of Sybase, Oracle and MSSQL servers. We incorporated a solution utilizing a second server with a large amount of diskspace. Then performed scheduled native SYBASE dumps and moved the dumps and transaction logs to this DB store server and performed our archives/backups from there. The DB store server has directories on it indicating the retention period. (i.e.. 1_year, 3_year, 5_year ...). Our Database Administrators preferred this method mainly because they have full control over the dumps and do not have to be fully reliant on a second software product to be able to recover the Database. The other advantage is reduced licensing costs, instead of 28 different TDP licenses we are able to use just one NT client license. Duane Ochs Systems Administration Quad/Graphics Inc. 414.566.2375 -Original Message- From: Henk ten Have [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 7:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sybase TSM Does anyone has experience with Sybase and TSM? I know there exists SQL-BackTrack for Sybase, but that seems to me quite expensive. Cheers, Henk ten Have
Re: Session limitation
Hi William, Apart from the normal - memory/Cpu constraints that you must stay aware of - remember that your Tsm client makes use of a netware userid to do the backups - make sure this ID can open enough sessions to support what you want from the client - so yes there IS a session limitation linked to the userid being used - but this can be set by the netware administrators. Cheers Christo I recently tried to backup up a Netware box straight to disk. I did this manually and opened 12 sessions (6 seperate backups). We had MacAfee running and are thinking that the combination of the two caused the Netware Client to reboot. It has a 100 MB card and I was trying to backup as fast as possible for a restore to a different box. The total of 88 GB was need to be backed up so that it could restore. I thought I could open as many sessions as I wanted since I was going straight to disk and then I would have done the same on the restore. Is there a known limitation on the client for open sessions according to the size of the box or otherwise? Would the backup have caused even remotely the Netware client to reboot? And for future use is there anyway of telling how many sessions to open on any box? Some guidelines or other? Thank you in advance. __ The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Absa is neither liable for the proper, complete transmission of the information contained in this communication, any delay in its receipt or that the mail is virus-free.
Sybase TSM
Does anyone has experience with Sybase and TSM? I know there exists SQL-BackTrack for Sybase, but that seems to me quite expensive. Cheers, Henk ten Have
Re: Point in Time Backups
Hi Only difference between Tivoli and Legato/Veritas in this case is that you don't want to have to remove tapes from the library every day. It is fully possible to make, as you put it, full backups so that you can create a point-in-time backup. If you would like to be able to restore any file, any time within 12 months, you'd probably have versions exist 365, keep extra version 365, keep only version 30. This would give you the same function(or problem as I would describe it) as veritas/legato, and you would be forced to remove tapes from your library. Also, this would force you to transfer all information on a nightly basis over the LAN, something that is probably impossible if you have enough information. Who would like to transfer +4TB of data every night over the LAN? You can also do as Legato/veritas; full backups every night, and then set the tapes off-site, put in new tapes, and do the next full backup. However, this is not to solve the policy problem. The easy way is to do as Legato/veritas, and do full backups. The hard way, which works better when you have gotten it in place, is to, instead of keeping tapes off-site, try to figure out what FUNCTION you're organisation requires. If you could get your users to tell you, what their requirements are, it would probably be easier to set up the policy. Another solution to you're problem would be to use backupsets. You could create backupsets on a weekly- monthly and yearly basis, and make it possible to do point-in-time backups, in this case point-in-time backupsets. A backupset is a snapshot image of all active versions of data from a specific server(which not includes extra versions). This is just like a full backup. However, TSM can create this full backup from data already stored in the library. This means you don't have to transfer data over the LAN. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Bergkällavägen 31D 192 79 SOLLENTUNA Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Cheri Howard Cheri_Howard@AALTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .ORGcc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: Point in Time Backups Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 2002-03-11 15:13 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager I appreciate all of the ideas that were posted on the list, and will send an update out to the group when we make our final decision on how to handle this. For those on this who think PIT restores are the answer While I certainly see the value in PIT restores and in fact use them myself, I disagree with the anecdotal statement that PIT restores can completely eliminate the need for point in time backups. However, if I'm missing something here I'd be happy to listen to anyone who can give me a DETAILED layout of how to EASILY set up MANAGEABLE policies so that I can ensure my customer that I can get his directory back for
Re: Point in Time Backups
I appreciate all of the ideas that were posted on the list, and will send an update out to the group when we make our final decision on how to handle this. For those on this who think PIT restores are the answer While I certainly see the value in PIT restores and in fact use them myself, I disagree with the anecdotal statement that PIT restores can completely eliminate the need for point in time backups. However, if I'm missing something here I'd be happy to listen to anyone who can give me a DETAILED layout of how to EASILY set up MANAGEABLE policies so that I can ensure my customer that I can get his directory back for him as it looked 1, 3, 12 or 15 months ago. Tivoli - this is definitely an ISSUE with your customers. Is this ever going to be addressed? Thanks, Cheri Howard Lead Storage Analyst Aid Association for Lutherans/Lutheran Brotherhood 4321 N. Ballard Road, Appleton, WI 54919-0001 http://www.aal.org Thomas A. La Porte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WORKS.COM cc: (bcc: Cheri Howard/AAL) Sent by: ADSM: Dist Subject: Re: Point in Time Backups Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] U 03/07/2002 03:42 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager If you manage your RETVER and VEREXISTS and RETONLY parameters properly, this can be accomplished with point in time *restores*, rather than point in time backups. -- Tom Thomas A. La Porte DreamWorks SKG [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Cheri Howard wrote: I have numerous customers who are requesting that, in addition to their TSM daily incremental backups, I also provide them with point in time backups of their data on significant days like month end, quarter end, etc. I would guess there are numerous ways this can be accomplished with TSM. I'm looking for input from those who are doing this successfully and would be willing to share what method they're using to accomplish this and the pros and cons of their chosen method. Thanks in advance for your input! Cheri Howard Lead Storage Analyst Aid Association for Lutherans/Lutheran Brotherhood 4321 N. Ballard Road, Appleton, WI 54919-0001 http://www.aal.org
Re: Scheduled archive shell script returns no error, but archive script failed !
[Material deleted] But I found there was an error in our /home/tsm/dsmc_archive.sh shell script, that caused it to fail. The script looks like : dsmc archive -archmc=migartion_archive -subdir=yes -quiet -archsyml=no \ /sapmnt/T21/ dsmc archive -archmc=migration_archive -subdir=yes -quiet -archsyml=no \ /usr/sap/put/ In the first line of the script, I made a typo, specifiying an inexistant management class, therefore the script failed ! How is it possible that TSM returns me completed, as this script failed? Is it a bug ? Is there any way checkin the real status of the schedule, without logging on the node to verify dsmsched.err ? In the absence of an exit statement, the exit status of a shell script is the exit status of the last command executed. Since the second and last dsmc command in your script ended with a zero exit status, the script ended with a zero exit status. TSM quite reasonably reported this as successful completion. If you want failures reported reliably you will need to add some explicit error checking to the script.
Re: HSM + GPFS/HACMP
jf , We run HSM on a 53 SP node, 3 attached S7A(s) and 2 S80(s), 2 6H1(s) environment with GPFS .. + HACMP... The code is different between GPFS JFS ... If and when you decide what you want to do, I will give you this advice, when you are configuring HSM give your clients/nodes the hsm suffix .. It can get to be really annoying when you see 3 or 4 sessions running and your thinking backups aren't done yet?? Gabriel C. Wiley ADSM/TSM Administrator AIX Support Phone 1-614-308-6709 Pager 1-877-489-2867 Fax 1-614-308-6637 Cell 1-740-972-6441 Siempre Hay Esperanza Daniel Sparrman daniel.sparrman@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EXIST.SEcc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: HSM + GPFS/HACMP Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 03/09/2002 03:39 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi If you mean running ordinary TSM HSM on a aix machine, all RS/6000 and P-Series servers supports this. However, I don't know the limitations when running HSM on a HACMP cluster environment. We're running HSM on two standalone clients, one P-Series 640, and one P-Series 610. This works very well. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Bergkällavägen 31D 192 79 SOLLENTUNA Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Jan-Frode Myklebust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-03-08 20:49 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: bcc: Subject: HSM + GPFS/HACMP We had planned to run HSM on our GPFS/SSA/HACMP cluster of 3 p690s, and suddenly IBM discovered that HSM is only supported on SP-nodes. We tried installing it, but the installation scripts bombed out because it couldn't find some SP tools. I'm suspecting that it's only a matter of getting the software installed/configured correctly, and then it should work, but this might be because I don't really know how SP systems differ from the p690 here. Does anybody have any insight to share? -jf
Re: HSM + GPFS/HACMP
Hi I also use prefixes, even for TDP:s such as NODENAME_SQL and so on. This to keep track of filespaces, which nodes that are running backups and so on. Also use _HSM for prefix for HSM clients. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Bergkällavägen 31D 192 79 SOLLENTUNA Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Gabriel Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: HSM + GPFS/HACMP Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 2002-03-11 16:14 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager jf , We run HSM on a 53 SP node, 3 attached S7A(s) and 2 S80(s), 2 6H1(s) environment with GPFS .. + HACMP... The code is different between GPFS JFS ... If and when you decide what you want to do, I will give you this advice, when you are configuring HSM give your clients/nodes the hsm suffix .. It can get to be really annoying when you see 3 or 4 sessions running and your thinking backups aren't done yet?? Gabriel C. Wiley ADSM/TSM Administrator AIX Support Phone 1-614-308-6709 Pager 1-877-489-2867 Fax 1-614-308-6637 Cell 1-740-972-6441 Siempre Hay Esperanza Daniel Sparrman daniel.sparrman@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EXIST.SEcc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: HSM + GPFS/HACMP Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 03/09/2002 03:39 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi If you mean running ordinary TSM HSM on a aix machine, all RS/6000 and P-Series servers supports this. However, I don't know the limitations when running HSM on a HACMP cluster environment. We're running HSM on two standalone clients, one P-Series 640, and one P-Series 610. This works very well. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Bergkällavägen 31D 192 79 SOLLENTUNA Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Jan-Frode Myklebust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-03-08 20:49 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: bcc: Subject: HSM + GPFS/HACMP We had planned to run HSM on our GPFS/SSA/HACMP cluster of 3 p690s, and suddenly IBM discovered that HSM is only supported on SP-nodes. We tried installing it, but the installation scripts bombed out because it couldn't find some SP tools. I'm suspecting that it's only a matter of getting the software installed/configured correctly, and then it should work, but this might be because I don't really know how SP systems differ
Re: HSM + GPFS/HACMP
We run HSM on a 53 SP node, 3 attached S7A(s) and 2 S80(s), 2 6H1(s) environment with GPFS .. + HACMP... The special thing about our configuration is that we run GPFS with HACMP instead of GPFS with PSSP. The installation scripts for the HSM client for GPFS expects some PSSP tools (and maybe other PSSP services) which isn't installed in our environment. I suspect you run GPFS with PSSP? IBM is saying HSM with GPFS/HACMP should be available in 6 months time.. If and when you decide what you want to do, I will give you this advice, when you are configuring HSM give your clients/nodes the hsm suffix .. I would appreciate your advice even though we haven't decided wat to do yet (install PSSP, wait 6 months, ???). -jf
Re: AS/400 TSM
Does anyone has experience, i.e. right now, in using TSM for AS/400 backup's? Is there a simple way to do that and what is the performance? Last week I heard there will be a AS/400 backupclient in TSM 5.1. Is that true Tivoli guru's? This is not true. We are planning for a 4.2.1 level of the TSM API for OS/400 to be available in the near future but not a client. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Leave everything a little better than you found it. - Smile a lot: it costs nothing and is beyond price.
Re: MVS SMF Records
I have received responses and help from various list members. They have pointed me in the correct directions for SMF analysis. Thank you all for your time. - Forwarded by Keene R. Hallenbeck/BHNSM/ISHSG/DIVADMIN/DOH on 03/11/02 11:00 AM - Keene R. Hallenbeck To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 03/07/02 02:33 Subject: MVS SMF Records PM I work for the New York State Dept. of Health. We just starting to look at the OS/390 MVS SMF records for Tivoli/ADSM accounting. I am not sure which fields, we will be asked about. I am reading and learning about MXG to extract data from the records. I was wondering if anybody had shareable SAS programs for analyzing the data fields. Any help would be greatly appreciated? Thank you for your time and consideration.
Re: Include.systemobjects, which TSM version ?
Hello Rene, with your level of server client, you should be fine. However, the syntax of the include statement needs to be corrected. You are missing the all keyword, i.e, INCLUDE.SYSTEMOBJECTS ALL class_name That should work. Regards, - Rejean Larivee IBM TSM/ADSM Level 2 Support Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY ,GL-IS/CIS To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rene.Lambelet@NESTLcc: E.COM Subject: Include.systemobjects, which TSM version ? Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] U 03/10/2002 03:22 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hello, please tell me which version supports the new include statement INCLUDE.SYSTEMOBJECTS class_name I tried using TSM server 4.2.1.7 (AIX) and TSM client 4.2.1.20 (W2K), unfortunately every system object remains bound to the DEFAULT management class ! Result: much too many inactive system objects... With my best sentiments, René Lambelet Nestec S.A. / Central Support Center 55, av. Nestlé CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) *+41'21'924'35'43 7+41'21'924'28'88 * K4-117 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our site: http://www.nestle.com This message is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential.
Re: Sybase TSM
Hi,
Having used both flat files for dumps and SQL-back track, I prefer to use files. What
I mean is I dump the database to files first, then backup the files to TSM.
This is what I do:
DUMPTIME=`date +%d%b%Y.%H:%M`
DUMPNAME=$DEVNAME/$SERVER.$DATABASE.$DUMPTIME
$SYBASE/$SYBASE_OCS/bin/isql -X -U$SQLUSER -P`cat $PASSFILE` -S$SERVER -e ! | tee
$WORK_DIR/$FILENAME.$DATABASE.out.$$
use master
go
dump database $DATABASE
to ${DUMPNAME}.1
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.2
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.3
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.4
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.5
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.6
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.7
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.8
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.9
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.10
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.11
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.12
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.13
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.14
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.15
stripe on ${DUMPNAME}.16
with file=$FILENAME, retaindays = 8, init
go
!
Then just do a 'dsmc inc' to backup the files.
The performance of this method can be very good.
I also got a letter from BMC saying the Sybase support is going up some ridiculous
amount like 30%.
miles
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Does anyone has experience with Sybase and TSM?
I know there exists SQL-BackTrack for Sybase, but that seems to me
quite expensive.
Cheers,
Henk ten Have
Re: HSM + GPFS/HACMP
Yep, PSSP 3.2 Gabriel C. Wiley ADSM/TSM Administrator AIX Support Phone 1-614-308-6709 Pager 1-877-489-2867 Fax 1-614-308-6637 Cell 1-740-972-6441 Siempre Hay Esperanza Jan-Frode MyklebustTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] janfrode@PARALLAcc: B.UIB.NOSubject: Re: HSM + GPFS/HACMP Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 03/11/2002 10:38 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager We run HSM on a 53 SP node, 3 attached S7A(s) and 2 S80(s), 2 6H1(s) environment with GPFS .. + HACMP... The special thing about our configuration is that we run GPFS with HACMP instead of GPFS with PSSP. The installation scripts for the HSM client for GPFS expects some PSSP tools (and maybe other PSSP services) which isn't installed in our environment. I suspect you run GPFS with PSSP? IBM is saying HSM with GPFS/HACMP should be available in 6 months time.. If and when you decide what you want to do, I will give you this advice, when you are configuring HSM give your clients/nodes the hsm suffix .. I would appreciate your advice even though we haven't decided wat to do yet (install PSSP, wait 6 months, ???). -jf
Re: AS/400 TSM
THERE IS a TSM client for AS/400! You can configure BRMS/400 to backup to TSM server instead to drive the tape. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: AS/400 TSM I wrote: Does anyone has experience, i.e. right now, in using TSM for AS/400 backup's? Is there a simple way to do that and what is the performance? Last week I heard there will be a AS/400 backupclient in TSM 5.1. Is that true Tivoli guru's? Cheers, Henk ten Have.
Re: TDP for Lotus Notes
Hi i am searching for the TDP Client for Lotus Notes. I have the lic file but i need the program. where can i download the latest update? Petur, I assume you are asking about TDP for Lotus Notes and not TDP for Lotus Domino... (TDP for Lotus Notes works with Domino R4 and TDP for Lotus Domino works with Domino R5.) There are no fixes for TDP for Lotus Notes. You must install it from the original media you received when you ordered the product. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Leave everything a little better than you found it. - Smile a lot: it costs nothing and is beyond price.
Re: AS/400 TSM
Hank, I don't know what TSM 5.1 will bring but for now you have to either use Robot/Save (3rd party) or BRMS. Robot/Save will require enough local disk space to backup the system to disk before it send it to TSM (you might be able to do some break-down but we couldn't see a way on the particular system we installed it on). BRMS will only backup the data not the system. Performance in either case was not very good. Steffan - Original Message - From: Henk ten Have [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:31 AM Subject: Re: AS/400 TSM I wrote: Does anyone has experience, i.e. right now, in using TSM for AS/400 backup's? Is there a simple way to do that and what is the performance? Last week I heard there will be a AS/400 backupclient in TSM 5.1. Is that true Tivoli guru's? Cheers, Henk ten Have.
Slow Reclamation from disk
I have old TSM server 3.7.4.0 on AIX 4.3.3 with 3575-L32 library with C-XL drives. New server is TSM 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3 ML09 and IBM 3584-L32 library with 8 FC-AL drives. Having the 3584 running for about 6 weeks now, I see what some of the talk about slownes in the last year actually is. On BOTH TSM systems there is slowness in offsite tape reclamation WHEN some of the files being reclaimed are still on the Disk stgpool. When tape reclamation starts, it figures out which tapes to reclaim and where the data is - understand. Then when it actually starts it will copy files that are STILL in disk stgpool first before files that are only on tape - makes sense. Then move to files that are only on tape. However, when it is copying files from disk it is MUCH slower than when copying from tape - I would say 10 times slower. But when doing a MIGRATION disk to tape or BACKUP STGPOOL fromdisk to tape on either system, it's like going from idle to 4th gear! This slownes can happen on thses system when there is NO OTHER ACTIVITY but this single reclamation. Having two different systems to compare at the same time seems to indicate that this is NOT a disk problem or a tape problem (except that the 3584 may not handle it quite as well). Also our old system tended to have disk pool emptier when reclaimation started and this wasn't really noticed on that system until I started paying close attention. I again point out that my 3584 really smokes when doing everything else BUT reclamation from disk to tape. So does the 3575 - relatively speaking. (My 3584 library is library F/W 2360 and drives are 18N2 as delivered, I don't think this is problem but included for completeness). It seems that this is some inherent Tivoli design flaw/feature in the RECLAMATION process. Anyone with detail knowledge of Reclamation can provide some insite? Andy Raibeck? Thanks, David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 03/11/02 11:37:16 -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Re: AS/400 TSM
Here is a little information that I had sent to someone else. As far as the AS400 to TSM backups, I feel that it works if you can through the hardware (from the AS/400 side) at it. Attached is timings from last night. This will give you an idea of how long transfer times are. All of the timings in the list are backups through BRMS directly to TSM and the times are from TSM. There usually is a couple of minutes on the AS400 side before the data transfer is started. No matter how you group the libraries in the BRMS groups, every library is considered a separate object to TSM (that is why your see so many). These timings represent 186GB of data. The last entry is a backup that we run that totals 71GB but because it requires the users to be down, we backup to a save file and then let BRMS transfer that save file. Our config is close. The AS400 is an 830 with GB network card and the TSM server is a dual processor Win2000 machine (cluster but running Active/Passive) with 2GB of memory and GB network card. All backups go directly to diskpool and move to tapepool later in the morning. -Original Message- From: Henk ten Have [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AS/400 TSM Does anyone has experience, i.e. right now, in using TSM for AS/400 backup's? Is there a simple way to do that and what is the performance? Cheers, Henk ten Have (heard bad stories about BMRS and ADSM V3 API) START_TIME END_TIMEBYTES 2/14/02 7:01 PM2/14/02 7:34 PM16,985,715,451 2/14/02 7:34 PM2/14/02 7:42 PM3,989,351,339 2/14/02 7:42 PM2/14/02 7:52 PM5,453,819,899 2/14/02 7:53 PM2/14/02 7:53 PM20,415,371 2/14/02 7:53 PM2/14/02 7:53 PM5,981,643 2/14/02 7:53 PM2/14/02 7:54 PM30,416,139 2/14/02 7:55 PM2/14/02 7:55 PM150,191,947 2/14/02 7:57 PM2/14/02 7:57 PM174,999,275 2/14/02 7:59 PM2/14/02 7:59 PM186,946,123 2/14/02 7:59 PM2/14/02 7:59 PM225,355 2/14/02 7:59 PM2/14/02 7:59 PM8,219 2/14/02 7:59 PM2/14/02 8:03 PM2,158,463,499 2/14/02 8:04 PM2/14/02 8:04 PM4,187,147 2/14/02 8:04 PM2/14/02 8:05 PM647,326,011 2/14/02 8:05 PM2/14/02 8:10 PM2,659,125,099 2/14/02 8:10 PM2/14/02 8:10 PM7,366,427 2/14/02 8:11 PM2/14/02 8:11 PM57,181,851 2/14/02 8:11 PM2/14/02 8:11 PM2,450,027 2/14/02 10:55 PM2/14/02 10:56 PM219,668,875 2/14/02 10:56 PM2/14/02 10:57 PM54,785,099 2/14/02 10:57 PM2/14/02 10:57 PM17,510,603 2/14/02 10:57 PM2/14/02 11:05 PM2,578,627,243 2/14/02 11:05 PM2/14/02 11:06 PM167,743,483 2/14/02 11:06 PM2/14/02 11:18 PM3,435,457,435 2/14/02 11:18 PM2/14/02 11:18 PM44,218,939 2/14/02 11:20 PM2/14/02 11:25 PM2,027,498,795 2/14/02 11:27 PM2/14/02 11:27 PM56,264,123 2/14/02 11:28 PM2/14/02 11:28 PM78,465,755 2/14/02 11:28 PM2/14/02 11:28 PM303,195 2/14/02 11:29 PM2/14/02 11:29 PM30,977,435 2/14/02 11:30 PM2/14/02 11:50 PM4,518,020,027 2/15/02 12:04 AM2/15/02 12:10 AM2,538,460,251 2/15/02 12:11 AM2/15/02 12:12 AM645,445,499 2/15/02 12:13 AM2/15/02 12:13 AM108,148,523 2/15/02 12:14 AM2/15/02 12:15 AM212,015,675 2/15/02 12:15 AM2/15/02 12:16 AM158,725,995 2/15/02 12:16 AM2/15/02 12:17 AM393,520,971 2/15/02 12:18 AM2/15/02 12:18 AM66,039,563 2/15/02 12:19 AM2/15/02 12:19 AM182,459,915 2/15/02 12:20 AM2/15/02 12:20 AM24,102,667 2/15/02 12:20 AM2/15/02 12:21 AM186,728,987 2/15/02 12:21 AM2/15/02 12:22 AM79,801,387 2/15/02 12:22 AM2/15/02 12:23 AM515,558,299 2/15/02 12:24 AM2/15/02 12:25 AM674,181,851 2/15/02 12:26 AM2/15/02 12:27 AM497,666,699 2/15/02 12:28 AM2/15/02 12:29 AM238,846,923 2/15/02 12:29 AM2/15/02 12:37 AM3,432,999,227 2/15/02 12:38 AM2/15/02 12:38 AM177,207,563 2/15/02 12:40 AM2/15/02 12:40 AM168,407,211 2/15/02 12:42 AM2/15/02 12:45 AM1,205,644,699 2/15/02 12:47 AM2/15/02 12:51 AM1,381,119,211 2/15/02 12:53 AM2/15/02 12:54 AM790,245,771 2/15/02 12:56 AM2/15/02 1:05 AM4,059,123,259 2/15/02 1:07 AM2/15/02 1:19 AM5,250,809,451 2/15/02 1:21 AM2/15/02 1:46 AM9,320,322,683 2/15/02 1:47 AM2/15/02 2:15 AM9,264,398,619 2/15/02 2:17 AM2/15/02 2:37 AM4,828,752,891 2/15/02 2:38 AM2/15/02 2:43 AM
IBM Director TSM
Anyone backing up IBM Director. We are getting the following files in use during backup. IBM support isn't any help what these are used for and if they can be excluded from the backup... esntevt.dat netdom.ini netnodes.ini wayne This message and any included attachments are from NOVANT HEALTH INC. and are intended only for the addressee(s). The information contained herein may include trade secrets or privileged or otherwise confidential information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, printing, copying, distributing, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you received this message in error, or have reason to believe you are not authorized to receive it, please promptly delete this message and notify the sender by e-mail. Thank you.
Re: Slow Reclamation from disk
Hi How is your diskpool configured? Is it placed locally on the machine, or is it SAN attached? Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Bergkällavägen 31D 192 79 SOLLENTUNA Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 David Longo David.Longo@HEALTHTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -FIRST.ORGcc: Sent by: ADSM:Subject: Slow Reclamation from disk Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] DU 2002-03-11 17:23 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager I have old TSM server 3.7.4.0 on AIX 4.3.3 with 3575-L32 library with C-XL drives. New server is TSM 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3 ML09 and IBM 3584-L32 library with 8 FC-AL drives. Having the 3584 running for about 6 weeks now, I see what some of the talk about slownes in the last year actually is. On BOTH TSM systems there is slowness in offsite tape reclamation WHEN some of the files being reclaimed are still on the Disk stgpool. When tape reclamation starts, it figures out which tapes to reclaim and where the data is - understand. Then when it actually starts it will copy files that are STILL in disk stgpool first before files that are only on tape - makes sense. Then move to files that are only on tape. However, when it is copying files from disk it is MUCH slower than when copying from tape - I would say 10 times slower. But when doing a MIGRATION disk to tape or BACKUP STGPOOL fromdisk to tape on either system, it's like going from idle to 4th gear! This slownes can happen on thses system when there is NO OTHER ACTIVITY but this single reclamation. Having two different systems to compare at the same time seems to indicate that this is NOT a disk problem or a tape problem (except that the 3584 may not handle it quite as well). Also our old system tended to have disk pool emptier when reclaimation started and this wasn't really noticed on that system until I started paying close attention. I again point out that my 3584 really smokes when doing everything else BUT reclamation from disk to tape. So does the 3575 - relatively speaking. (My 3584 library is library F/W 2360 and drives are 18N2 as delivered, I don't think this is problem but included for completeness). It seems that this is some inherent Tivoli design flaw/feature in the RECLAMATION process. Anyone with detail knowledge of Reclamation can provide some insite? Andy Raibeck? Thanks, David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 03/11/02 11:37:16 -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete
Re: Slow Reclamation from disk
Yep, it is a design flaw! Apar IC15925 describes this issue. ERROR DESCRIPTION During an offsite reclamation process; where files are being transfered from disk to tape. ADSM fails to group the files together into transaction groups. Instead the files are processed sequentially. Hence a file will be reclaimed and committed before the next file will be process. ADSM needs to honor the movebatchsize and movesizethresh options in the server options file, so that the files will be grouped together properly for reclimation. As a note, this problem will only be seen where off-site reclamation is occuring from disk to tape. COMMENTS: After taking a very close look at the solution for this APAR, it was determined that the code needed for this performance enhancement is significant because it requires a restructure in the offsite reclamation transaction processing. A requirement can be taken to include this performance improvement in the next release or version. I have submitted a design request - and actually had a TSM developer call me asking for details on this last September. I haven't heard anything since so I'm thinking they are not persuing it! Please submit your reqests for a design change - perhaps if enough people ask ... Tim Rushforth City of Winnipeg -Original Message- From: David Longo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Slow Reclamation from disk I have old TSM server 3.7.4.0 on AIX 4.3.3 with 3575-L32 library with C-XL drives. New server is TSM 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3 ML09 and IBM 3584-L32 library with 8 FC-AL drives. Having the 3584 running for about 6 weeks now, I see what some of the talk about slownes in the last year actually is. On BOTH TSM systems there is slowness in offsite tape reclamation WHEN some of the files being reclaimed are still on the Disk stgpool. When tape reclamation starts, it figures out which tapes to reclaim and where the data is - understand. Then when it actually starts it will copy files that are STILL in disk stgpool first before files that are only on tape - makes sense. Then move to files that are only on tape. However, when it is copying files from disk it is MUCH slower than when copying from tape - I would say 10 times slower. But when doing a MIGRATION disk to tape or BACKUP STGPOOL fromdisk to tape on either system, it's like going from idle to 4th gear! This slownes can happen on thses system when there is NO OTHER ACTIVITY but this single reclamation. Having two different systems to compare at the same time seems to indicate that this is NOT a disk problem or a tape problem (except that the 3584 may not handle it quite as well). Also our old system tended to have disk pool emptier when reclaimation started and this wasn't really noticed on that system until I started paying close attention. I again point out that my 3584 really smokes when doing everything else BUT reclamation from disk to tape. So does the 3575 - relatively speaking. (My 3584 library is library F/W 2360 and drives are 18N2 as delivered, I don't think this is problem but included for completeness). It seems that this is some inherent Tivoli design flaw/feature in the RECLAMATION process. Anyone with detail knowledge of Reclamation can provide some insite? Andy Raibeck? Thanks, David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 03/11/02 11:37:16 -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Re: Slow Reclamation from disk
That's it, alright! That APAR was from ADSM 2.1 closed in July 1997!! I guess the fix is on the back burner. David Longo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/02 11:33AM Yep, it is a design flaw! Apar IC15925 describes this issue. ERROR DESCRIPTION During an offsite reclamation process; where files are being transfered from disk to tape. ADSM fails to group the files together into transaction groups. Instead the files are processed sequentially. Hence a file will be reclaimed and committed before the next file will be process. ADSM needs to honor the movebatchsize and movesizethresh options in the server options file, so that the files will be grouped together properly for reclimation. As a note, this problem will only be seen where off-site reclamation is occuring from disk to tape. COMMENTS: After taking a very close look at the solution for this APAR, it was determined that the code needed for this performance enhancement is significant because it requires a restructure in the offsite reclamation transaction processing. A requirement can be taken to include this performance improvement in the next release or version. I have submitted a design request - and actually had a TSM developer call me asking for details on this last September. I haven't heard anything since so I'm thinking they are not persuing it! Please submit your reqests for a design change - perhaps if enough people ask ... Tim Rushforth City of Winnipeg -Original Message- From: David Longo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Slow Reclamation from disk I have old TSM server 3.7.4.0 on AIX 4.3.3 with 3575-L32 library with C-XL drives. New server is TSM 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3 ML09 and IBM 3584-L32 library with 8 FC-AL drives. Having the 3584 running for about 6 weeks now, I see what some of the talk about slownes in the last year actually is. On BOTH TSM systems there is slowness in offsite tape reclamation WHEN some of the files being reclaimed are still on the Disk stgpool. When tape reclamation starts, it figures out which tapes to reclaim and where the data is - understand. Then when it actually starts it will copy files that are STILL in disk stgpool first before files that are only on tape - makes sense. Then move to files that are only on tape. However, when it is copying files from disk it is MUCH slower than when copying from tape - I would say 10 times slower. But when doing a MIGRATION disk to tape or BACKUP STGPOOL fromdisk to tape on either system, it's like going from idle to 4th gear! This slownes can happen on thses system when there is NO OTHER ACTIVITY but this single reclamation. Having two different systems to compare at the same time seems to indicate that this is NOT a disk problem or a tape problem (except that the 3584 may not handle it quite as well). Also our old system tended to have disk pool emptier when reclaimation started and this wasn't really noticed on that system until I started paying close attention. I again point out that my 3584 really smokes when doing everything else BUT reclamation from disk to tape. So does the 3575 - relatively speaking. (My 3584 library is library F/W 2360 and drives are 18N2 as delivered, I don't think this is problem but included for completeness). It seems that this is some inherent Tivoli design flaw/feature in the RECLAMATION process. Anyone with detail knowledge of Reclamation can provide some insite? Andy Raibeck? Thanks, David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 03/11/02 11:37:16 -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. == MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on
Question about include.exclude.
If an include/exclude file points to a management class that does not exisit and the file uses the default management class, what happens when the correct management class is put in the include/exclude file ? Does the file get rebound to the new management class ? Thanks in advance. Jason
Re: Slow Reclamation from disk
We went round-and-round with Tivoli on this issue. They say it's working as designed. Here's what's happening... When the location of a file is on DISK which is RANDOM access, then TSM processes the files ONE AT A TIME instead of batching them together like on SEQuential media. We first discovered this with the DIRMC...our policy put the directories into a DISK storage pool and then copied them to offsite each day. Then the reclamation ran forever. Tivoli says that RANDOM DISK is processed 1 file at a time and they have no plans to change this. SO you can imaging how many 1 at a times there are reclaiming your DIRMC pool. Now we configure up with a first-level DISK pool that we migrate for a FILE devclass. The FILE is a SEQuential media and reclamation runs OK. So, if you can migrate the data before you start the reclamation you should get better response times. HTH, Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Sparrman Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slow Reclamation from disk Hi How is your diskpool configured? Is it placed locally on the machine, or is it SAN attached? Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Bergkällavägen 31D 192 79 SOLLENTUNA Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 David Longo David.Longo@HEALTHTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -FIRST.ORGcc: Sent by: ADSM:Subject: Slow Reclamation from disk Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] DU 2002-03-11 17:23 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager I have old TSM server 3.7.4.0 on AIX 4.3.3 with 3575-L32 library with C-XL drives. New server is TSM 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3 ML09 and IBM 3584-L32 library with 8 FC-AL drives. Having the 3584 running for about 6 weeks now, I see what some of the talk about slownes in the last year actually is. On BOTH TSM systems there is slowness in offsite tape reclamation WHEN some of the files being reclaimed are still on the Disk stgpool. When tape reclamation starts, it figures out which tapes to reclaim and where the data is - understand. Then when it actually starts it will copy files that are STILL in disk stgpool first before files that are only on tape - makes sense. Then move to files that are only on tape. However, when it is copying files from disk it is MUCH slower than when copying from tape - I would say 10 times slower. But when doing a MIGRATION disk to tape or BACKUP STGPOOL fromdisk to tape on either system, it's like going from idle to 4th gear! This slownes can happen on thses system when there is NO OTHER ACTIVITY but this single reclamation. Having two different systems to compare at the same time seems to indicate that this is NOT a disk problem or a tape problem (except that the 3584 may not handle it quite as well). Also our old system tended to have disk pool emptier when reclaimation started and this wasn't really noticed on that system until I started paying close attention. I again point out that my 3584 really smokes when doing everything else BUT reclamation from disk to tape. So does the 3575 - relatively speaking. (My 3584 library is library F/W 2360 and drives are 18N2 as delivered, I don't think this is problem but included for completeness). It seems that this is some inherent Tivoli design flaw/feature in the RECLAMATION process. Anyone with detail knowledge of Reclamation can provide some insite? Andy Raibeck? Thanks, David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 03/11/02 11:37:16 -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or
Re: Sybase TSM
Yes, I have SQL-BT 4.2.00 with OBSI 2.5.00 on an AIX client with Sybase ASE 12.0. Have nearly 15GB database and growing. Have had SQL-BT for about one year. Backups work fine, haven't had to do a restore yet. Had some minor problems initially setting it up, lot's of config steps. But when you get it setup, it works smoothly. David Longo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/02 08:33AM Does anyone has experience with Sybase and TSM? I know there exists SQL-BackTrack for Sybase, but that seems to me quite expensive. Cheers, Henk ten Have MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 03/11/02 12:34:50 -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Re: AIX client fails direct to tape backup
I think it was introduced in the 3.7 server. Depends on server level, not client level though; I've still got some WinNT clients running 3.1.0.6, and they have MAXNUMMP set (although as I recall there was an issue when I first moved to that server level, that clients which had NEVER had their MAXNUMMP set, would not behave as they should by default, until I set it explicitly; or clients that had MAXNUMMP that defaulted to 0 didn't behave the same as ones that were explicitly set to 0, or something like that. Anyway, I can't check now, because I remember I did a global update node * maxnummp=1 to clean it all up. But that was a long time and several sever version ago. Just thought I would mention it... -Original Message- From: Tab Trepagnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AIX client fails direct to tape backup Wanda, My clients are set to their defaults. Also, wasn't that feature introduced after V 3.1? Thanks. Tab
Retrieving archives from directory that became to be a mount point.
Hello List - I have problem with retrieving archives from directory that became to be a mount point. I can see my files when I use QUERY ARCHIVE command like this: tsmq archive /opt/*/IMAGUI-100*.tar.Z Size Archive Date - TimeFile - Expires on - Description ------ 695,41710/15/2001 18:36:45/opt/support/IMAGUI-100101.tar.Z 10/15/2003 Archive Date: 10/15/2001 6,736,152 10/15/2001 18:37:45/opt/support/IMAGUI-100201.tar.Z 10/15/2003 Archive Date: 10/15/2001 7,376,512 10/15/2001 18:38:45/opt/support/IMAGUI-100301.tar.Z 10/15/2003 Archive Date: 10/15/2001 6,724,730 10/15/2001 18:39:46/opt/support/IMAGUI-100401.tar.Z 10/15/2003 Archive Date: 10/15/2001 6,850,248 10/15/2001 18:39:55/opt/support/IMAGUI-100501.tar.Z 10/15/2003 Archive Date: 10/15/2001 6,394,005 10/15/2001 18:40:05/opt/support/IMAGUI-100601.tar.Z 10/15/2003 Archive Date: 10/15/2001 1,108,578 10/15/2001 18:40:39/opt/support/IMAGUI-100701.tar.Z 10/15/2003 Archive Date: 10/15/2001 635,78310/15/2001 18:41:26/opt/support/IMAGUI-100801.tar.Z 10/15/2003 Archive Date: 10/15/2001 7,438,028 10/15/2001 18:42:11/opt/support/IMAGUI-100901.tar.Z 10/15/2003 Archive Date: 10/15/2001 But If I try to restore any files form this list I got ANS1092E No files matching search criteria were found: tsm retrieve /opt/support/IMAGUI-100901.tar.Z ANS1092E No files matching search criteria were found tsm retrieve /opt/*/IMAGUI-100901.tar.Z ANS1081E Invalid search file specification '/opt/*/IMAGUI-100901.tar.Z' entered tsm Any suggestion would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance. Serge Dubrovsky.
TSM to backup windows
Hello there, Can anyone give me advice on which command to use to logout active users from Windows or W2K ? Some users left their Windows application connected, so backup job fail. I would like to issue a command to force a logout of these users before a backup job. Don't need to worry about application integrity. Once user logoff, application will be closed without problem. Regards William Tivoli Software, IBM Software Group, IBM China/Hong Kong Limited 11/F, PCCW Tower, Taikoo Place, 979 King's Road, Hong Kong Internet : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 2825-7613Fax: 2825-0022
Performance problems when upgrading AIX 4.3.3
Hi, We are runnning TSM version 4.1.3.0 on AIX 4.3.3. When we upgraded AIX to maintenance level 9, we started experiencing severe performance problems when running the normal TSM backups. We then applied the following additional upgrades to AIX, but it did not help. If anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. I did read the recent posts regarding this maintenance level but was unable to solve our problem. We have had to back off the AIX maintenance but need to apply it soon! Kathy Faella [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenGL.OpenGL_X.rte.base4.3.3.76 bos.acct4.3.3.76 devices.common.IBM.ethernet 4.3.3.76 bos.net.tcp.client 4.3.3.78 bos.net.nfs.server 4.3.3.11 bos.adt.include 4.3.3.78 bos.net.ppp 4.3.3.27 bos.net.tcp.server 4.3.3.78 devices.common.IBM.atm.rte 4.3.3.77 bos.net.nfs.client 4.3.3.78 bos.sysmgt.serv_aid 4.3.3.78 bos.mp 4.3.3.79 bos.up 4.3.3.79 rsct.basic.rte 1.2.0.11 rsct.basic.hacmp1.2.0.7 rsct.basic.sp 1.2.0.5 rsct.clients.rte1.2.0.1 ssp.basic 3.2.0.16 ssp.st 3.2.0.6 ssp.css 3.2.0.16 ssp.clients 3.2.0.13 ssp.sysman 3.2.0.8 ssp.sysctl 3.2.0.7 rsct.core.utils 1.2.0.1 bos.rte.libpthreads 4.3.3.77 bos.rte.libc4.3.3.81 bos.adt.prof4.3.3.80 Katherine M. Faella Senior Technical Programmer University of Rhode Island (401) 874-4469
TDP for Domino
Yesterday, I converted one of my Domino server from an NT 4.0 to a Windows 2000 Advanced server. I have 3 schedules setup for doing a log backup, incremental back, and inactivate log files. These three schedules are setup in the services to automatically start when Windows starts. I notice that I can't have all the services started at the same time. If start one of the services and then try to start the second service, the first one stops. I never had any problem like this in my NT server. Are there any problems running TDP for Domino on a Windows 2000 server? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Radha
SAN , fibre drives
Hi Can someone pls tell me , how this works first and foremost If I have 2 fibre drives connected to SAN via fibre switch does this mean, these fibre drives will be recognized as local drives to the client server? Please let me know Thanks This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. Ce courriel est confidentiel et protege. L'expediteur ne renonce pas aux droits et obligations qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce message ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le (les) destinataire(s) designe(s) est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez m'en aviser immediatement, par retour de courriel ou par un autre moyen.
Re: Slow Reclamation from disk
That's it, alright! That APAR was from ADSM 2.1 closed in July 1997!! I guess the fix is on the back burner. I know it's not Friday, but this is even funnier then all the I'm not here in about 8 languages;-) Cheers, Henk.
Re: AS/400 TSM
Steffan, I don't know what TSM 5.1 will bring but for now you have to either use Robot/Save (3rd party) or BRMS. Robot/Save will require enough local disk space to backup the system to disk before it send it to TSM (you might be able to do some break-down but we couldn't see a way on the particular system we installed it on). BRMS will only backup the data not the system. Performance in either case was not very good. Thanks. More people told me the performance isn't very good. Not to say poor/bad. Cheers, Henk (aka Hank)
Re: Sybase TSM
At 07:42 PM 3/11/2002 +0100, you wrote: I also got a letter from BMC saying the Sybase support is going up some ridiculous amount like 30%. Well, that's good knews too, I mean, good to know. Another reason not to start with SQL-back track Thanks! Cheers, Henk. On the other hand, we found that using SBT to ADSM (as it was then) was faster than dumping from SYBASE to tape. As this application continues to grow, SBT to TSM still keeps the performance advantage. In addition, SBT also keeps track of intermediate log dumps and will do incremental dumps of the system. And version control is also very good. But installation and configuration may be daunting: none of our ORACLE users have gotten very far with SBT for ORACLE.
Clientoption Sets not binding proberly to a management class
Hello, I'm having trouble using client option sets. I want to bind all files in the /web/prod/web_logs directory on a unix server to a specific management class called 8YR_CLASS. When I do a backup all Directories are binding to this 8YR_CLASS but the files are going to the default mgm class. I must be missing something here... This is my clientopt... Option Sequence Override Option Value number - INCLEXCL 10 Yes include /web/prod/web_logs/.../* 8YR_CLASS INCLEXCL 11No include /web/prod/web_logs/* 8YR_CLASS This is the output from ls -lR for the /web directory just to give you an idea of what files I'm testing with.. # ls -lR /web total 0 drwxrwxrwx 3 root sys 96 Feb 28 10:01 prod /web/prod: total 0 drwxrwxrwx 5 root sys 96 Feb 28 10:02 web_logs /web/prod/web_logs: total 0 drwxrwxrwx 2 root sys 96 Feb 28 10:03 anotherdir drwxrwxrwx 2 root sys 96 Feb 28 10:03 denis drwxrwxrwx 2 root sys 96 Feb 28 10:03 testing /web/prod/web_logs/anotherdir: total 2 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys107 Feb 28 10:03 node1 /web/prod/web_logs/denis: total 2 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 39 Feb 28 10:03 node1 /web/prod/web_logs/testing: total 2 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys105 Feb 28 10:03 testingfileforTSMbackup # This is the result of a q backup from the client... tsm q backup /web/* -subdir=yes Size Backup DateMgmt Class A/I File ----- --- 96 02/28/02 10:28:018YR_CLASS A /web/prod 96 02/28/02 10:28:018YR_CLASS A /web/prod/web_logs 96 02/28/02 10:28:018YR_CLASS A /web/prod/web_logs/anotherdir 96 02/28/02 10:28:018YR_CLASS A /web/prod/web_logs/denis 96 02/28/02 10:28:018YR_CLASS A /web/prod/web_logs/testing 107 02/28/02 10:28:01DEFAULT A /web/prod/web_logs/anotherdir/node1 39 02/28/02 10:28:01DEFAULT A /web/prod/web_logs/denis/node1 105 02/28/02 10:28:01DEFAULT A /web/prod/web_logs/testing/testingfileforTSMbackup tsm Only the directories are binding to the 8YR_CLASS... I want the files to bind, not the directories.. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Regards, Denis L. L'Huiller 973-360-7739 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enterprise Storage Forms - http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html
Re: TSM server buffering client IP address ?
Arnaud, Yes, the server does remember the last address the client accessed it from. After you change the client address, and reboot the client to make sure the new address is firm, you want to run some query like dsmc q sched or dsmc q ses to make the most recent contact come from the new address. - Kai. Date:Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:49:09 +0100 From:PAC Brion Arnaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM server buffering client IP address ? Hi gurus ! I'm facing the following problem : we have a client node which IP = address has been modified yesterday morning, the machine has then been = rebooted, and of course, TSM client restarted. But this morning TSM = showed me the scheduled nightly backup for this node as missed.=20 I have a test schedule, that can be started manually, to test a = connection between TSM and client node. After having been restarting = client once again, I tried to execute this schedule, and this time = obtained missed. Ping between client and sever works in both directions, so there is no = connection issue. Dsmsched log and error files don't show any problem. After several retries, I decided with our network admin to trace IP = exchanges between the two machines, and we found that after having been = restarting the scheduler, systems where using the new node IP address = for some transactions, but at a certain point, TSM tried to use the OLD = ip address of the node ! Thus our test schedule fails ! Could anybody tell me if there is any kind of buffer in TSM, that = needs a certain time to be flushed before attributing new ip addresses = to nodes, or something like this ? How does exactly works TSM node - server relation when starting a = schedule, is there any kind of explanation ? Please help me, I absolutely have no idea of what happens. The picture : TSM server v 4.1.3 on aix 4.3.3 TSM node v 3.1.0.7 on aix 4.3.3 , in a DNZ (firewall = ports and IP addresses have been verified and are opened) Thanks in advance ! Arnaud
Re: Point in Time Backups
Dave, I am puzzled, but willing to learn--Why do you say that backupsets and archiving are not viable ways of doing PIT backups? Backupsets are more oriented to a PIT restore, but they do provide a snapshot of what the active files are at a given time. And archives seem like the arch-typical PIT snapshot to me. - Kai Date:Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:06:20 - From:Frost, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Point in Time Backups Cheri This is our biggest headache with TSM which has NO suitable facility to provide what you want. Backupsets and archiving are not viable ways of doing it. snip
Re: with AIX TSM 4.1 can you reset maxsessions without bouncing t sm
From admin command line: setopt maxsession #_of_sessions No server cycle needed! :-) Check with 'q opt' - Tom Walker Technical Supprt Analyst EMI Recorded Music, NA -Original Message- From: Cook, Dwight E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: with AIX TSM 4.1 can you reset maxsessions without bouncing tsm On the slight chance someone has figured out a trick to get TSM to reprocess its dsmserv.opt file and I missed hearing about it... I've bumped up the # in my dsmserv.opt but getting a quiet moment on this TSM server is like asking the sun to not shine for a while. Dwight This e-mail including any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you have received it in error please advise the sender immediately by return email and then delete it from your system. The unauthorized use, distribution, copying or alteration of this email is strictly forbidden. This email is from a unit or subsidiary of EMI Recorded Music, North America
Re: SAN , fibre drives
so basically, any other backup tool, besides TSM agent will attempt a backup on the client server? -Original Message- From: Daniel Sparrman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SAN , fibre drives Hi Yes, running any UNIX dialect these drives will be recognized as local SCSI drives. All fibre attachments normally just looks like SCSI attachments. This is because the WWN is converted to SCSI ID's. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Bergkällavägen 31D 192 79 SOLLENTUNA Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 -ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Selva, Perpetua [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/11/2002 06:52PM Subject: SAN , fibre drives Hi Can someone pls tell me , how this works first and foremost If I have 2 fibre drives connected to SAN via fibre switch does this mean, these fibre drives will be recognized as local drives to the client server? Please let me know Thanks This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. Ce courriel est confidentiel et protege. L'expediteur ne renonce pas aux droits et obligations qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce message ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le (les) destinataire(s) designe(s) est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez m'en aviser immediatement, par retour de courriel ou par un autre moyen. font face=Times New Roman size=3 p--/p p This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately./p p Ce courriel est confidentiel et protégé. L'expéditeur ne renonce pas aux droits et obligations qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce message ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le (les) destinataire(s) désigné(s) est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez m'en aviser immédiatement, par retour de courriel ou par un autre moyen./p p/p /font
Re: IBM Director TSM
I don't know about esntevt.dat, but netdom.ini and netnodes.ini contain the groups and systems you have defined. How easily you can recreate these definitions would determine your need to back them up. John Johnson IBM Global Services - WMI Spearman, Wayne wmspearman@NOVANTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HEALTH.ORG cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: IBM Director TSM Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] EDU 03/11/2002 08:34 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Anyone backing up IBM Director. We are getting the following files in use during backup. IBM support isn't any help what these are used for and if they can be excluded from the backup... esntevt.dat netdom.ini netnodes.ini wayne This message and any included attachments are from NOVANT HEALTH INC. and are intended only for the addressee(s). The information contained herein may include trade secrets or privileged or otherwise confidential information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, printing, copying, distributing, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you received this message in error, or have reason to believe you are not authorized to receive it, please promptly delete this message and notify the sender by e-mail. Thank you.
RESOURCEUTILIZATION - NT client 4.1.2.12
Has anyone experienced greater backup throughput by setting the RESOURCUTILIZATION parameter greater than the default value on an NT CLIENT? When you increase the resourceutilization on a client, are there any server settings that need changed as well? TSM Environment information: AIX SERVER - 4.2.1.9 AIX CLIENTS - 4.1.3 NT CLIENTS - 4.1.2.12 I have set the resourceutilization to 5 in my dsm.opt file on one of our large file/print servers, and I was only able to decrease the backup runtime by an average of 35 minutes. Please reply with any experiences you may of had with adjusting this parameter above the default value. Thank You, Monte
Re: LAN Free backups
I do not believe that is the case... -- Joshua S. Bassi Sr. Solutions Architect @ rs-unix.com IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM Cell (415) 215-0326 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Henk ten Have Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LAN Free backups On 08-Mar-02 Joe Cascanette wrote: H...Another item I will have to purchase from Tivoli. im sure my company will love me now. I heard last week that SANergy will be part of TSM, starting with TSM 5.1, which will be announced April 9th. Cheers, Henk (who can't wait)
Re: check the tape integrity
Check the audit volume command. I do audit volumes on any tape volume that hasn't been mounted in 60 days, unless of course it is offsite. Andy Carlson |\ _,,,---,,_ [EMAIL PROTECTED]ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ BJC Health System |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' St. Louis, Missouri'---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat Pics: http://andyc.dyndns.org/animal.html On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Luciano Ariceto wrote: Hi I would like to know if is possible to check periodically a tape integrity. That means a procedure read a little bit of the tape without use commands like restore, retrieve, or movedata. TIA !
Re: Point in Time Backups
How about month-end exports? You can keep them for as long as you need, but there is the extra step of re-importing them to be able to restore from them. When I'm confronted by someone trying to do a traditional full-incremental-incremental scheme with TSM, explain how TSM works, starting out with, Unlike every other backup program you've ever used, TSM... (And I seem to have to use that speech a lot...) Nick Cassimatis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today is the tomorrow of yesterday.
Re: how does TSM / sql backtrack use management classes?
We have a management class called SQLBACKTRACK and the copy class has the following attributes: vere=nolimit verd=0 rete=nolim reto=0 In the include/exclude file we point the SQL Backtrack backup to the management class: include /BACKTRACK:*/.../* sqlbacktrack In the SQL Backtrack control file you indicate how many versions of the backups to keep. If the database is deleted off the server make sure to delete the backups off the TSM server before deleting the control file (indicate 0 versions to be kept). If not you will end up keeping all the backups for that server. We currently have 30 TB of data backed up by SQL Backtrack. Any questions feel free to call. Frank Mauro Backup and Recovery Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone Number: 603.245.3207 Beeper Number: 888.797.0806 -Original Message- From: Steve Argersinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how does TSM / sql backtrack use management classes? I asked this question of BMC at least 6-12 months ago and officially got the answer of this is unsupported . We are getting around it by creating a separate profile in a different location and move it back and forth between the temporary area, and the real area before starting the backup. Seemed like a reasonable request to have 2 different mgmtclasses for backups, and archives, but they said no. Steve Argersinger Ruan Transportation -Original Message- From: Rolf Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how does TSM / sql backtrack use management classes? Hello, using SQL BackTrack, all retention management is done by SQL-BT acording to definitions in the so called Oracatalog. Every backup object is unique, because the name includes a timestamp. Versioning from TSM sight cannot be established. In the inst. guide of SQLBT-interface mode to TSM, called obsi.adsm, you find the nessessary defs for the backup or archive copy groups. Greetings Rolf Meyer On Monday, 4. March 2002 22:20, you wrote: We're using SQL backtrack to backup our oracle database. If two backtrack backup scripts are run using two different management classes against the same database, (ie.. management class one has 3 version, 30 days and management class two has 6 versions 60 days) how does TSM handle the backup? Will it in effect use the shortest management class. Or will it keep two sets of the database, one for 3/30 and the other for 6/60?
Re: Point in Time Backups
Duane, I have a similar year end problem. Here's how I handle it. I have a dedicated data path through my system consisting of a little HP 418 DLT autoloader. I have a special year-end management class that points to it. When the end-of-year files are ready for backup, I archive them to the primary pool defined on the little HP. That gets me the first copy. My copypool is a four-drive HP 4/40 DLT library. At any given time, I have four DLTs within it that are filling. I set all four to access=RO. Then I backup the primary pool on the HP 418 to the copypool. Because all the filling tapes are RO, TSM will pull in a scratch tape and copy the primary tape to it. That gets me the second copy. I check out both tapes, and flag both tapes as unavailable. That keeps them out of the reclamation processes. I put one copy on the shelf in our office for immediate access. The other copy goes to the vault. Then I set the RO filling DLTs back to RW. Then TSM continues its daily activities as if nothing happened. Hope this helps. Tab Trepagnier TSM Administrator Laitram Corporation Ochs, Duane [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 03/11/2002 02:35:50 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Point in Time Backups In my experience a backupset is more for server recovery than file restoration and does not offer the ability to restore individual files, plus the entire server would be included on the backupset, there is no way to exclude certain directories from it unless there was a complex method they were backed up. (i.e. different server names for specific data types or directories) Archiving presents a similar problem and has it's own deficiencies when running backups and archives at the same time. I have been in touch with Tivoli on a number of occasions trying to figure out a way to get a monthend. Yes there are many ways to do it, but my main concern is the data already resides in the jukebox it would be ideal to be able to copy all data for a specific server to a tape, based on a date and time, that can be retained for X days, months or years and have the data on that tape restorable on an individual file level. Two answers I have received, That functionality has been requested many times and is be reviewed for a future release or That functionality is not what TSM was ever intended to do and it is unlikely to be developed. The ability to do so would be more of a marriage between standard backups daily, weekly, monthly and incremental always. If anybody knows of any development in this area or has figured out a way to do this I would like to know. I have some engineering servers that are in the 300 - 400 GB range and a full backup is unfeasible, but would be ideal to have. These servers have not been migrated from Veritas to TSM yet, specifically due to the inability to provide this type of support. Just my 2 cents worth. Duane Ochs Quad/Graphics Inc. 414.566.2375 -Original Message- From: Kai Hintze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Point in Time Backups Dave, I am puzzled, but willing to learn--Why do you say that backupsets and archiving are not viable ways of doing PIT backups? Backupsets are more oriented to a PIT restore, but they do provide a snapshot of what the active files are at a given time. And archives seem like the arch-typical PIT snapshot to me. - Kai Date:Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:06:20 - From:Frost, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Point in Time Backups Cheri This is our biggest headache with TSM which has NO suitable facility to provide what you want. Backupsets and archiving are not viable ways of doing it. snip
Re: Point in Time Backups
Here's a thought. What if evey month you were to rename the filespaces of a node to a name containing the month? e.g /data becomes /Feb02_data on 1 Feb. Then, the next incremental would be a full on the /data filespace. Delete the renamed filespace whenever the appropriate retention period has expired. Then to get a true point in time snapshot facility we'd need a clone filespace command, or could you do that with export/import? Steve Harris AIX and TSM Admin Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia Nicholas Cassimatis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/2002 7:40:38 How about month-end exports? You can keep them for as long as you need, but there is the extra step of re-importing them to be able to restore from them. When I'm confronted by someone trying to do a traditional full-incremental-incremental scheme with TSM, explain how TSM works, starting out with, Unlike every other backup program you've ever used, TSM... (And I seem to have to use that speech a lot...) Nick Cassimatis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today is the tomorrow of yesterday. ** This e-mail, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this e-mail is prohibited. It may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this e-mail in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone or by return e-mail. You should also delete this e-mail message and destroy any hard copies produced. **
Re: Useunicodnames YES or NO
Hi Michael and Rene, USEUNICODEFILENAMES, while aptly named for what it does internally, is not very well named for what it is intended for. Perhaps a better name would have been ENABLEMACFILESUPPORT, or something like that... :-) From DOC APAR IC30744, which better describes the purpose of this option: - Mac file support is available only for files with U.S. English characters in their names (i.e. names that do not contain accents, umlauts, Japanese characters, Chinese characters, etc) - In order to back up Mac files, the following client options must be in effect: USEUNICODEFILENAMES YES If you are not backing up Mac files, then the following option must be in effect: USEUNICODEFILENAMES NO Note that the default value is NO for all languages except English. The Unicode client (4.2 and up) eliminates the need for this option, and TSM ignores it. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Michael Bartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/2002 05:44 Please respond to michael.bartl To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Useunicodnames YES or NO Hi René, with both the server and the client on 4.2 level, it seems that unicode gets always used (at least with new nodes). That's fine as all problems we had with national characters should be fixed now. There's a problem with displaying the filespace names in dsmadmc (q files resulted in ... being displayed instead of the filespace name). This problem is fixed in 4.2.1.8 and later. When not using 4.2 on both server and client, I think the old rules for USEUNICODE are still effective, but I haven't found much on this in Tivoli documentation. Best regards, Michael -- Michael Bartl, Dipl. Inform. (FH) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Backup Services, IT Germany/Austria Tel: +49-89-92699-806 Cable Wireless Deutschland GmbH. Fax: +49-89-92699-302 Landsberger Str. 155, D-80687 Muenchen http://www.cw.com/de Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-IS/CIS wrote: Hi, we have directories with accented characters in our directories names and also in file names. What should be coded in the dsm.opt, using TSM client 4.2.1.20 for W2K and TSM server 4.2.1.7? Same question using TSM server 4.1.2.4 ? Is it USEUNICODNAME YES or NO ? What are the main reasons for using YES or NO, sorry but doc is not so clear for me ! Thanks a lot for helping René Lambelet Nestec S.A. / Central Support Center 55, av. Nestlé CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) *+41'21'924'35'43 7+41'21'924'28'88 * K4-117 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our site: http://www.nestle.com This message is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential.
Informix API 3.7.1
Hi all *SM's, I need some help please. We are running TSM Server 4.2.1.6 with TSM Client 4.2.1.0 and API 3.7.1.0 on aix 4.3.3.0. We have successfully been backup up the Informix Database (Informix Dynamic Server Version 7.30.UC7) until last Sunday when I received the message 10-03-2002 16:12:41 ANR0424W Session 3130 for node WW-DATAW-MONTHLY (AIX) refused - invalid password submitted. this backup is a monthly Level 0 backup of the database and is a separate node on the machine (I run 2 nodes on the same machine, 1 for monthly 1 for daily), On Monday night the Level 1 backup failed with this message from the bar.act.log 2002-03-11 18:37:26 255704 225818 /informix/bin/onbar_d -b -L 1 -f /tmp/dwd485p.dbslist.250184.out 2002-03-11 18:38:04 255704 225818 Begin level 1 backup rootdbs. 2002-03-11 18:38:07 255704 225818 XBSA Error (BSAInit): Attempt to authorize root failed. 2002-03-11 18:38:10 255704 225818 Begin level 1 backup rootdbs. 2002-03-11 18:38:11 255704 225818 XBSA Error (BSAInit): Attempt to authorize root failed. 2002-03-11 18:38:14 255704 225818 Begin level 1 backup rootdbs. 2002-03-11 18:38:15 255704 225818 XBSA Error (BSAInit): Attempt to authorize root failed. and in the dsm error log I had the following messages 11-03-2002 18:38:07 sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication. 11-03-2002 18:38:11 sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication. 11-03-2002 18:38:15 sessOpen: Error 137 from signon authentication. I have reset the password on both nodes and now I receive the following errors 2002-03-12 15:55:27 275680 259688 /informix/bin/onbar_d -b -L0 rootdbs 2002-03-12 15:55:29 275680 259688 Begin level 0 backup rootdbs. 2002-03-12 15:55:30 275680 259688 XBSA Error (BSAInit): An unspecified XBSA error has occurred: 96 2002-03-12 15:55:35 275680 259688 Begin backup logical log 1432. 2002-03-12 15:55:35 275680 259688 XBSA Error (BSAInit): An unspecified XBSA error has occurred: 96 2002-03-12 15:55:40 275680 259688 Begin backup logical log 1432. 2002-03-12 15:55:41 275680 259688 XBSA Error (BSAInit): An unspecified XBSA error has occurred: 96 2002-03-12 15:55:46 275680 259688 Begin backup logical log 1432. 2002-03-12 15:55:46 275680 259688 XBSA Error (BSAInit): An unspecified XBSA error has occurred: 96 12-03-2002 15:55:30 sessOpen: Error 168 from signon authentication. 12-03-2002 15:55:35 sessOpen: Error 168 from signon authentication. 12-03-2002 15:55:41 sessOpen: Error 168 from signon authentication. 12-03-2002 15:55:46 sessOpen: Error 168 from signon authentication. What does a Error 168 mean, and where do I go to find those error's, and also does any know why my backups are failing. Thanks Doug McLauchlan DISCLAIMER: The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the addressee(s). If this email is not intended for you, you must not use, read, distribute or copy it. If you have received this email by mistake please call the sender immediately on 64-9-2620772 and erase the email and any attachments, and any copies of the same. Internet communications are not secure and therefore Woolworths (NZ) Ltd does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Woolworths (NZ) Ltd unless specifically stated.
Re: Tape Library Capacity Requirement.
hi daniel, currently we're using ADSM 3.1 and IBM 3494 TL, we're planning to upgrade or change the backup tape library solution, so, we're still evaluating the solution. we selected 3 backup solutions from the list (TSM, LEGATO, VERITAS)with there own proposed tape library. Since, we have that disk spaces available (3.7TB) with 80% utilised, we want to calculate the required TL capacity. If we selected TSM what is the required capacity for TL if we implemented 4 versions of archive 3 versions of incremental backups. reagrds, -Original Message- From: Daniel Sparrman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tape Library Capacity Requirement. Hi It sounds like you're going to use a full backup software such as Legato. However, I will do my estimates based on TSM, which uses incremental backups, and version management to be able to do point-in-time restores of files(older version of a file than the latest) and applications. I'd probably propose a IBM 3584 Anaconda with at least 3 drives, preferable fibre attached. I guess that you are going to use TSM with this library. Therefore, you will probably not use full backups, but incremental. And, on fileservers, I recommend using more than 3 versions(which is standard within TSM). This will grow your total storage by the number of versions you want to use. It' very hard to calculate total storage requirements, when you don't tell us what kind of data that is going to be kept in the library(SQL databases, fileservers and so on). However, you can count with about 10% change every night on a fileserver, and, if not to large, use full backups of databases. I'd say you'll be storing about 10TB total, and preferable, have media protection using copypools, which means another 10TB. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Bergkällavägen 31D 192 79 SOLLENTUNA Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Zosimo Noriega [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Tape Library Capacity Requirement. Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 2002-03-11 10:52 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Please help me to calculate the require capacity of the tape library. I have 3.7 TB of data and 4 versions of Archive (with 30 days retention period) and 1 version of backup (full backup) will be implemented. How can i calculate the required capacity? Thanks for your help in advance. Zosi Noriega ADNOC-UAE.
Re: SAN , fibre drives
Yes, if they have a zone configuration that allows them to be seen by the client server. -Original Message- From: Selva, Perpetua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SAN , fibre drives Hi Can someone pls tell me , how this works first and foremost If I have 2 fibre drives connected to SAN via fibre switch does this mean, these fibre drives will be recognized as local drives to the client server? Please let me know Thanks This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. Ce courriel est confidentiel et protege. L'expediteur ne renonce pas aux droits et obligations qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce message ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le (les) destinataire(s) designe(s) est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez m'en aviser immediatement, par retour de courriel ou par un autre moyen.
Re: LAN Free backups
This was not what was presented at Share. I believe Joshua is correct. -Original Message- From: Joshua S. Bassi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LAN Free backups I do not believe that is the case... -- Joshua S. Bassi Sr. Solutions Architect @ rs-unix.com IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM Cell (415) 215-0326 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Henk ten Have Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LAN Free backups On 08-Mar-02 Joe Cascanette wrote: H...Another item I will have to purchase from Tivoli. im sure my company will love me now. I heard last week that SANergy will be part of TSM, starting with TSM 5.1, which will be announced April 9th. Cheers, Henk (who can't wait)
Re: Useunicodnames YES or NO
Andy, I am not so sure about MAC only use of the parameter. Under TSM server 4.1, we had serious problem restoring NT directories with accented letters in their names. Problem was solved coding USEUNICODEFILENAMES NO in the dsm.opt's ! Thanks for your explanation anyway. René Lambelet Nestec S.A. / Central Support Center 55, av. Nestlé CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) *+41'21'924'35'43 7+41'21'924'28'88 * K4-117 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our site: http://www.nestle.com This message is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. -Original Message- From: Andrew Raibeck [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: mardi, 12. mars 2002 03:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Useunicodnames YES or NO Hi Michael and Rene, USEUNICODEFILENAMES, while aptly named for what it does internally, is not very well named for what it is intended for. Perhaps a better name would have been ENABLEMACFILESUPPORT, or something like that... :-) From DOC APAR IC30744, which better describes the purpose of this option: - Mac file support is available only for files with U.S. English characters in their names (i.e. names that do not contain accents, umlauts, Japanese characters, Chinese characters, etc) - In order to back up Mac files, the following client options must be in effect: USEUNICODEFILENAMES YES If you are not backing up Mac files, then the following option must be in effect: USEUNICODEFILENAMES NO Note that the default value is NO for all languages except English. The Unicode client (4.2 and up) eliminates the need for this option, and TSM ignores it. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Michael Bartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/2002 05:44 Please respond to michael.bartl To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Useunicodnames YES or NO Hi René, with both the server and the client on 4.2 level, it seems that unicode gets always used (at least with new nodes). That's fine as all problems we had with national characters should be fixed now. There's a problem with displaying the filespace names in dsmadmc (q files resulted in ... being displayed instead of the filespace name). This problem is fixed in 4.2.1.8 and later. When not using 4.2 on both server and client, I think the old rules for USEUNICODE are still effective, but I haven't found much on this in Tivoli documentation. Best regards, Michael -- Michael Bartl, Dipl. Inform. (FH) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Backup Services, IT Germany/Austria Tel: +49-89-92699-806 Cable Wireless Deutschland GmbH. Fax: +49-89-92699-302 Landsberger Str. 155, D-80687 Muenchen http://www.cw.com/de Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-IS/CIS wrote: Hi, we have directories with accented characters in our directories names and also in file names. What should be coded in the dsm.opt, using TSM client 4.2.1.20 for W2K and TSM server 4.2.1.7? Same question using TSM server 4.1.2.4 ? Is it USEUNICODNAME YES or NO ? What are the main reasons for using YES or NO, sorry but doc is not so clear for me ! Thanks a lot for helping René Lambelet Nestec S.A. / Central Support Center 55, av. Nestlé CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) *+41'21'924'35'43 7+41'21'924'28'88 * K4-117 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our site: http://www.nestle.com This message is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential.
Re: Question about include.exclude.
Yes, if it is still an active file (both active and inactive versions will be rebound). Inactive (deleted) files do not get rebound. -Original Message- From: Jason Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Question about include.exclude. If an include/exclude file points to a management class that does not exisit and the file uses the default management class, what happens when the correct management class is put in the include/exclude file ? Does the file get rebound to the new management class ? Thanks in advance. Jason
