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2004-12-21 Thread rainer . john

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RE: making the Press Release

2004-12-21 Thread Tom Gazzini
 On Fri, 2004-12-17 at 23:25 +, Tom Gazzini wrote:
  The reason I say this is that, when I first started researching
 mod_perl,
  about 1.5 short years ago, search engines often led me to very helpful
  articles on how to install/configure mod_perl, but these were frequently
  emblazoned with the alarming qualifier DO NOT USE MOD_PERL 2 IN A
  PRODUCTION ENVIRONMENT or words to that effect.
 
 Those were necessary warnings, in my opinion, since Red Hat was shipping
 alpha code as their only mod_perl offering.
 
 They also all say that it's not released yet, so all we have to do is
 make sure people hear that it's released.


Yes that's right. You have to make sure they hear it.


  IMHO, these qualifiers play a fairly significant role in the decline in
  mod_perl usage stats we've been seeing in the last few months.
 
 I don't really think so.  PHP has all the same qualifiers about use with
 Apache 2.
 

I know very little about what the PHP crowd do, or how PHP know-how is
propagated.

I was really talking from personal experience. That of recently trying to
convince a team of developers at work (who have been raised mostly on
Microsoft tools) that a particularly large and high profile project would be
better and more quickly accomplished using apache and mod_perl. It didn't
take them long to do a google search and come up with the Do not use
mod_perl in production articles (as these seem to come somewhere the top of
the search listings if you start researching Mason or Embperl with
mod_perl). This then became ammo against mod_perl. Mod_perl lost the battle.





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Re: slashdot php article

2004-12-21 Thread Stas Bekman
also, i don't know if this true, but i like the idea of mod_perl being 
an Apache module more than a perl module. And i like the idea of 
mod_perl versions following Apache versions. So when Apache releases 
Apache 3.0 [which surely will be a major release], mod_perl3 will follow 
in the footsteps. it sort of gives the impression that mod_perl is a 
official professional partner
I don't think we will have another choice.
though if Apache 2.2 will be made possible to work with the current mp2, 
there is no reason to release mp2.2, unless it'll require Apache 2.2 to work.

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