Re: PR release for mp2.0.0?

2004-12-13 Thread allan juul
Stas Bekman wrote:
For those who haven't noticed mp2-RC1 was released and we should get 2.0 
really soon now (my guess another 3-4 weeks, but could happen earlier 
too). So it's time to start thinking about preparing a PR that was 
discussed here before. Any takers to lead this effort?


hi
not taking the lead, but here a few thoughts to what could help the PR:
* news flash on frontpage on perl.apache.org
one thing (and a thing which constantly annoys me from a PR point of 
view) is the fact that the mod_perl website's frontpage doesn't have a 
news section. it's no-one's fault but even that it's updated frequently, 
there aren't really any news on the frontpage. on that note i like the 
idea the way they do it on perl.org - probably some rss feeds (?)

i think we should at least do a news flash somwhere on the slightly too 
informative (IMO) frontpage.


* bullet list of perhaps 5 major reasons to upgrade
can someone tell joe public in very few sentences what i gain by 
upgrading to mod_perl 2?


* faq
this is such a web thing for both developers and project managers and 
directors. couldn't we write a perl program that scans the total mail on 
the mailing list extract the 50 most used words. seriously, it would be 
great to have someone to write a faq - someone with the time to do it.

* what does a banner ad cost on perl.com, could we get one cheapish ?
a banner on perl.com should in theory really be free since they run 
mod_perl themselves and get articles i belive by the mod_perl community. 
banners elsewhere - dont we know people uses this great software who may 
want to support it back by other means that mouth to mouth ?

* timing - is 3-4 weeks a good date or does the news drown in 
forgetfulness (xmas and new years hollidays). maybe it's even better to 
wait to january ?

proper PR is probaly always well-planned. to me it looks like a very bad 
idea to release in the middle of xmas fever (altought it's a very nice 
christmas gift of course). it should also co-incide with the above 
suggest of a possible banner of course


* merchandise - geek.com ?
does mod_perl_1 merchandise even exists ?
we might wanna ask people if they can help on the mod_perl list
* how about a good slogan competition ?
not kidding. the slogan should probably preferably reflect above wanted 
bullet list.


* how about a possible list of comany users of mod_perl2 [if any
notable]

* lastly, don't know if this has been discused before, i really think 
that we should appoint 1-2 people responsible for the pr of this 
software. [people who can afford the time envolved]

./allan

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Re: posting news on perl.apache.org

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 16:29 -0500, Stas Bekman wrote:
No news is better than stale news. So I'm really -0 on starting any news 
sections. We tried this before, it never worked.

Really?  I don't remember that.  On the old site?  Updates were kind of
difficult back then.
Correct, the old site.
The only way I can see 
this working if someone volunteers to keep it up2date and really does the 
work, and not for the first week.

I volunteered for this, and I will keep it going.
perrin++. I guess in the worst case if things stale down, we can always 
remove it later.

perl.apache.org is really a documentation site, it's not a news site. 
Perhaps someone could start /.org style modperl news site, in which case 
it should be much easier to keep it alive, by just letting others post 
stories. perl.apache.org could link to it and have RSS feed to it.
I will work on providing an RSS feed later, but I think it's important
to have news on the front page, like php.net and most others do.
But RSS feed to what? Or do you mean RSS feed of perl.apache.org to other 
sites? I was thinking to have something like modperl.use.perl.org or 
elsewhere where there will be news posted and just have perl.apache.org 
include RSS to that site. So one doesn't change anything on perl.apache.org.

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Re: PR release for mp2.0.0?

2004-12-13 Thread Jayce^
On Monday 13 December 2004 09:05 am, Stas Bekman wrote:
 For those who haven't noticed mp2-RC1 was released and we should get 2.0
 really soon now (my guess another 3-4 weeks, but could happen earlier
 too). So it's time to start thinking about preparing a PR that was
 discussed here before. Any takers to lead this effort?

Anybody Submitted this to slashdot yet?  Seems like a good place to get the 
word out to geeks.  Especially those that have been fretting about not using 
mp2 until it's 'released'.

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