Re: Still want to use AdWords v201802

[Prashant Pandey]

Just to follow up, would like to use v201802 API of AdWords.

On Tuesday, 12 February 2019 17:11:51 UTC+5:30, Prashant Pandey wrote:
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> Hi Guys,
> Due to some reasons/circumstances, I would still like to use v201802. Is 
> this possible? 
> Prashant
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Still want to use AdWords v201802

[Prashant Pandey]

Hi Guys,
Due to some reasons/circumstances, I would still like to use v201802. Is 
this possible? 
Prashant

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Re: Adding Audiences to AdGroups or already existing audience.

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*You will be able to add members to an existing list that is serving ads.
However, please note that it takes 6 to 12 hours for a list to be populated
with members and will see the "In Progress" status in the UI. If you're
removing/adding users simultaneously, please ensure that your list contains
at least 5000 email addresses to ensure that ads are served. Please refer
to the caveats section in this guide

for
more information.*
Consider this scenario, I have an audience list associated with an AD which
is serving AD to the people on the audience list.  You are suggesting that
I can append emails/phone to this list and the AD will continue to serve AD
to people even if its in 'In Progress' status. But the condition is it has
to be above 5000 entries. Am I correct?

Ex - I have 6234 (> 5000 ) people already in the list seeing the AD and if
I have 1000 more people to add it to the list, then will the old people
still be able to see the list or will the AD stop serving the list entirely
, unless all the new people are added?

Sorry for the confusion

On 23 May 2018 at 00:47, 'Bharani Cherukuri (AdWords API Team)' via AdWords
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> Hi Prashant,
>
> Please find my response below:
>
> *1.To an already existing audience list which is not associated with any
> adGroup? (I think yes)*
> You could use the AdWordsUserListService.mutateMembers
> 
>  to
> either add or remove the members from the list. You will need to use ADD or
> REMOVE operators to add or remove members to the user list. Please note
> that it might take a few hours for the list to be populated with the
> members.
>
> *2. To an already existing audience list which is associated to any of the
> adGroup and which is actually serving ad's?*
> * In this case I want to understand will the adGroup stop serving ad's
> and I have make some changes again for it to serve, or things will run
> smoothly?*
> You will be able to add members to an existing list that is serving ads.
> However, please note that it takes 6 to 12 hours for a list to be populated
> with members and will see the "In Progress" status in the UI. If you're
> removing/adding users simultaneously, please ensure that your list contains
> at least 5000 email addresses to ensure that ads are served. Please refer
> to the caveats section in this guide
> 
>  for
> more information.
>
> *3. Or do I have to always create a new audience List if I have new
> emailID/Phone numbers to retarget? *
> It is not required that you create a new audience list. You could update
> your list or create a new list depending on your use case.
>
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Re: OfflineCredentials generateCredential() limits and best practices

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Hi Peter,
Thanks for the reply. I am confused by your reply. If I am making 1
request (with 2000 emails each) and I am calling the above snippet 1
times , generateCredential() will be called 1 times.  I saw the code
and it makes HTTP calls.

*In the examples in the client library such as this one
,
you no longer need to modify the current implementation as it already
automatically does this for you. It retrieves your credentials from your
properties file and refreshes your accessTokens

for
each call that you make.*
What exactly do you mean by properties file? Do you mean that after the
first call to generateCredential() you are storing it in some cache and
retrieving it (to instantiate the session object) for all subsequent
calls?
And also it will only refresh for the access token only after an hour
correct?

Please bear with me. Thanks

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>
> What the paragraph implies is that each request you make should make use
> of your already thread-safe credentials by simply instantiating the
> sessions object. In the examples in the client library such as this one
> ,
> you no longer need to modify the current implementation as it already
> automatically does this for you. It retrieves your credentials from your
> properties file and refreshes your accessTokens
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Re: Rate Limit / Best Practices for Remarketing

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No I am not having any trouble in adding 1Million users in a single 
request, just that I have never thought of uploading more that 10k emails 
per request. But allow me sometime to get back after trying this. Thanks. 

On Thursday, 24 May 2018 03:11:41 UTC+5:30, Bharani Cherukuri (AdWords API 
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> Hello Prashant, 
>
> You will be able to add up to 1Million users in a single request. This 
> will be calculated as one operation towards the daily limit. You will be 
> able to verify this through the Operations count in the response header. 
> Please check this guide 
>  on 
> how operations are counted towards the account limits. 
>
> This said, ideally uploading 1Million users in a single request should 
> work. If you're having any trouble, please share the request Id and the 
> error you're receiving, so I can take a look.
>
> Let me know if you have any other questions. 
>
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OfflineCredentials generateCredential() limits and best practices

[Prashant Pandey]

Here 

 its 
mentioned, 

"The client libraries make sharing a credential across threads 
straightforward. Each client library has a session (or user) object with a 
credential that it reuses throughout its lifetime. To share the credential 
across threads, simply construct each session using the same credential. In 
all client libraries, the credential is a thread-safe object that refreshes 
itself synchronously when its access token expires."

My use case - Using this 

 I 
am uploading emails/phone numbers to my customers adWords account.
I am using the following code to generate credentials 

Credential oAuth2Credential = new OfflineCredentials.Builder()
 .forApi(OfflineCredentials.Api.ADWORDS)
 .withClientSecrets(GOOGLE_ADWORDS_CLIENT_ID, GOOGLE_ADWORDS_CLIENT_SECRET)
 .withRefreshToken(refreshToken).build().generateCredential();

// Construct an AdWordsSession.
AdWordsSession session = new 
AdWordsSession.Builder().withClientCustomerId(clientCustomerId)
 .withDeveloperToken(GOOGLE_ADWORDS_DEVELOPER_TOKEN)
 .withOAuth2Credential(oAuth2Credential)
 .withUserAgent("test_user").build();

AdWordsServicesInterface adWordsServices = AdWordsServices.getInstance();
userListService = adWordsServices.get(session, 
AdwordsUserListServiceInterface.class);

I am batching 20k emails from my end and for every 20k emails I am firing the 
above code. But according to the above quote

(which is a bit confusing), this is not a best practice? If I understand the 
above paragraph correctly, do you guys suggest that the 

oAuth2Credential variable be made into Thread-Safe object and then it should be 
used to create session persistently? 


Or If I am mistaken can you guys please help me in explaining this?


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Re: Is it possible to dynamically update a Customer Match audience?

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*There is a limit depending on the highest amount accounts together spent
in a month, from the last 12 months the maximum account limit varies from a
limit of 50 accounts for less than $10,000 and 2,500 accounts for a spent
between $10,000 to $500,000. The limit is 85,000 accounts for spent greater
than $500,000. You could refer this guide
 to know more about
account limits for a manager account.*I am sorry but I think I have framed
my question wrong.
Scenario - A customer using this
 gives
my firm the access to upload emails on their behalf to their adWords
account (to create audiences). I want to understand, in what way does my
adWords account (the account with which the developer token , used to make
API calls, is associated) gets related/connected to my customers adWords
account (which gives me refresh-token via the above method). Do I become
their Manager account? Or do I remain unconnected?



PS: sorry for the duplicity, It took 2/3 days for my question to be posted
here so I thought it was rejected, hence made a new one.

On 23 May 2018 at 00:38, 'Teja Makani' via AdWords API and Google Ads API
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> Hello Prashant,
>
> I see that you already posted the first two questions on a new thread and
> Bharani has answered those on that thread
> .
> Please try to avoid posting duplicates to help us keep a better track of
> the issues. Please find my response for questions 3 to 5 below:
>
>1. *The use case is - I am providing my customers (around 1
>customers)  the capability to upload emails to "their" adwords account. I
>have created a developer token (for test-account) for now for development
>purpose. I want to know , Am I acting as a manager account for my
>customers? If yes! then is there any limit on number of customers a manager
>account can have? if No! then is it fine for me to give my large customer
>base the capability to connect their adwords account with my dashboard and
>upload emails to their adwords account?*
>There is a limit depending on the highest amount accounts together
>spent in a month, from the last 12 months the maximum account limit varies
>from a limit of 50 accounts for less than $10,000 and 2,500 accounts for a
>spent between $10,000 to $500,000. The limit is 85,000 accounts for spent
>greater than $500,000. You could refer this guide
> to know more about
>account limits for a manager account.
>
>2. *Also is there any internal documentation only on Customer Match
>API? I have followed this
>
> 
>  and
>there is no hint of RateLimiting and best pratices here.*
>You can refer this guide
>
> 
>  to
>know more about customer match user lists. You could also refer to details
>about rate limit here
> and
>best practices from this guide
>.
>
>3. *I am ready to go live in production with my code , but before that
>I have to get standard access developer token correct? How many days does
>it take to approve that code? *
>It is not necessary to have a standard access to go live in
>production, you can also use a developer token with basic access. In case
>you are doing more than 10,000 API operations per day or more than 1,000
>report downloads in a day then you can request for standard access
>
> .
>Most of the times our API compliance team will get back to you within a
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Re: Rate Limit / Best Practices for Remarketing

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*You will be able to add/remove up to 100 members to a member list.
Please check this guide

for
more information. Batch Job Processing is currently not supported for the
AdWordsUserListService.*
 I am confused, sorry. You mean I can add 1Million members to a member list
in one request or overall?

*With a Basic access developer token, you will be able to execute 10,000
operations and download up to 1000 reports per day. So on this scale, if
you're looking to upload up to 50M emails, it would be counted as 50
operations towards the daily limits. *
I will be able to achieve 50 operations only if I send 1Million members per
request correct? I want to understand how are "Operations" defined. If I am
sending 50M emails in 25000 request ( calling mutateMembers 25000 times )
will it still be counted as 50 operations or 25000 operations.

Also what do you suggest the batch size should be? 1 Million or a more
frugal 2k?

Please bear with me.

Thanks


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> Hi Prashant,
>
> Please find my response below:
>
> *I want to upload 50 million emails using the above example. I want to
> understand what are the best practices to do it.*
> *As far as I understand, you can give 1 emails in one request per user
> list, correct? That means I have to make 50M/1 = 5,000 request? Or even
> worse, as there is no support for Batch Operation for MutateOperation in
> above example, I am batching actually 2000 emails per request so that makes
> 25000 request. At what point would I be get RateLimit exceeded error. *
> You will be able to add/remove up to 100 members to a member list.
> Please check this guide
> 
>  for
> more information. Batch Job Processing is currently not supported for the
> AdWordsUserListService.
>
> *Also is it even possible with basic developer token to make 25000
> request. What is the upper limit for basic developer token? *
> With a Basic access developer token, you will be able to execute 10,000
> operations and download up to 1000 reports per day. So on this scale, if
> you're looking to upload up to 50M emails, it would be counted as 50
> operations towards the daily limits. For each upload, you will be able to
> check the operations
> 
>  count
> in the response header which will be calculated towards the daily limit.
>
> Let me know if you have any other questions.
>
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Rate Limit / Best Practices for Remarketing

[Prashant Pandey]

Hi I have few question regarding the rate-limiting for Remarketing.
I have used 
your 
https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/samples/java/remarketing#add-crm-based-user-list
  
example for my work.
I want to upload 50 million emails using the above example. I want to 
understand what are the best practices to do it.
As far as I understand, you can give 1 emails in one request per user 
list, correct? That means I have to make 50M/1 = 5,000 request? Or even 
worse, as there is no support for Batch Operation for MutateOperation in 
above example, I am batching actually 2000 emails per request so that makes 
25000 request. At what point would I be get RateLimit exceeded error. 

Also is it even possible with basic developer token to make 25000 request. 
What is the upper limit for basic developer token? 

This is a story of one of our big customers. We have plenty of Customers 
looking to upload emails at this scale. 

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Adding Audiences to AdGroups or already existing audience.

[Prashant Pandey]

Hi, 
I want to know if I can append more email/phone number
1. To an already existing audience list which is not associated with any 
adGroup? (I think yes)
2. To an already existing audience list which is associated to any of the 
adGroup and which is actually serving ad's?
 In this case I want to understand will the adGroup stop serving ad's 
and I have make some changes again for it to serve, or things will run 
smoothly?
3. Or do I have to always create a new audience List if I have new 
emailID/Phone numbers to retarget? 


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Re: Is it possible to dynamically update a Customer Match audience?

[Prashant Pandey]

Hi Sai,
Thanks for the above solution from Shweta, it worked. I have few queries 
regarding the best practices only for customer match and few issues 
regarding the structure of your adWords accounts.

1. In what all cases will I get rateLimit errors. There are examples 
related to it but not related to customer match. Can you please help me in 
this?
Consider a scenario where I have to upload 50million emails. What 
should be the number of request and number of threads? As far as I have 
understood , 
I can do this is 50million/1 = 50,000 mutateOperation calls. How 
frequently can I make these calls? In what case will I get rateLimit?
2. If BatchJob is not supporting MutateOperation then its expected that I 
have to create my own batch service?  (I have done it but just asking)
3. The use case is - I am providing my customers (around 1 customers)  
the capability to upload emails to "their" adwords account. I have created 
a developer token (for test-account) for now for development purpose. I 
want to know , Am I acting as a manager account for my customers? 
If yes! then is there any limit on number of customers a manager 
account can have?
if No! then is it fine for me to give my large customer base the 
capability to connect their adwords account with my dashboard and upload 
emails to their adwords account?
4. Also is there any internal documentation only on Customer Match API? I 
have followed this 

 and 
there is no hint of RateLimiting and best pratices here. 
5. I am ready to go live in production with my code , but before that I 
have to get standard access developer token correct? How many days does it 
take to approve that code? 

Thanks for all the help here man! 
Much appreciated



On Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:43:52 UTC+5:30, Teja Makani wrote:
>
> Hello Prashant,
>
> I am from AdWords API Team. If you are facing any issues while following 
> the solution mentioned earlier by Shwetha, could you please elaborate your 
> question and also share the logs for us to investigate further? You could 
> reply privately to author while sharing the logs.
>
> Regards,
> Sai Teja, AdWords API Team.
>
>

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Re: Is it possible to dynamically update a Customer Match audience?

[Prashant Pandey]

Hi Jeremie,
Can you help me know if the solution mentioned by Shwetha has worked for 
you or not? 
Thanks for the help.

On Friday, 13 May 2016 21:53:38 UTC+5:30, Jeremie wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot, I'll try this
>
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 4:34:27 PM UTC-3, Shwetha Vastrad (AdWords 
> API Team) wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeremie,
>>
>> To add new emails to a CrmBasedUserList, use a selector 
>> 
>>  like 
>> the one below to get the Id of the User List you want to update.
>>
>> 
>> Id
>> Name
>> ListType
>> 
>> Name
>> EQUALS
>> ListName
>> 
>>  
>>
>> Once you have the Id, you can add emails to the user list using the Id 
>> retrieved above using a Mutate operation 
>> 
>>  as 
>> described below:
>>
>>
>> 
>> ADD
>> 
>> UserListId
>> EMAIL_SHA256
>> HashedEmailAddress1
>> HashedEmailAddress2
>> HashedEmailAddress3
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> This is how the SOAP request should look like. You can use the client 
>> libraries 
>>  to 
>> achieve the same result.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shwetha, AdWords API Team.
>>
>>

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