Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program


Mark,

Damn, didn't even think about web archive.  That's why your known as the smarter Mark.
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Friday, March 12, 2021, 6:08:46 PM, you wrote:





For what it’s worth I said:

"Details of all service offerings are available at https://www.amplex.net/residential-wireless and https://www.amplex.net/residential-fiber.   For historical information please see the Web Achive at: http://web.archive.org/web/20200406144022/https://www.amplex.net/.   Service plans and pricing available on December 1, 2020 are unchanged as of the date of this letter. “

and

"Please see our prior and current FCC form 477 filings for verification of our service areas and product offerings.  Our most recent filing covering 12/31/2020 was entered on 2/19/2021.”

I scanned a copy of our trifold brochure(s) with the service plans and attached those to the letter.

Approval came back an hour after I submitted it.

Mark
    





On Mar 12, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:

That's something I dont like about the government using subscription data. Its dumb because it's not realistic, the customer defines that. If you offer a cheap 1Mbps plan, and a customer came from dialup, they're happier than a pig in shit with it, but does that mean its underserved?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 11:47 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies  wrote:




USAC  wants "Evidence that the provider had the same service offerings
available  on December 1, 2020".  I'm not sure what type of evidence I
can  give  them.   Pointer to website wouldn't help.  I don't think we
have ever filed any FCC or USAC paperwork that shows our pricing.  Was
thinking  about  printing out a December invoice from random customers
for each plan and blanking out the customer info.

Thoughts?


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RC> Still waiting for more clarity on the verification stuff. I can't seem to
RC> find straight answers yet and I believe that's because nobody really knows
RC> yet. I've heard from some that the customer prequalifies themselves. I've
RC> also read that we will have access to the "national verifier" but I'm not
RC> certain that is the "catchall" way to qualify people. I'm nervous that we'll
RC> have a bunch of different systems to deal with (national verifier, school
RC> lunch program, local school districts, state unemployment, etc.)  We shall
RC> see. 




RC> -Original Message-
RC> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
RC> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:50 AM
RC> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
RC> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

RC> Randy,

RC> We  got  our  FCC  approval  yesterday.   Going  to  do the USAC stuff
RC> tomorrow.  Going to be some overhead for us, but we have to do it.

RC> I think I can put it into our billing system (PLAT) fairly easy.

RC> Big  thing  for  me is what we are allowed to do for non-payers on our
RC> higher  tier  plans.  I know we are going to have to write up a fairly
RC> detailed  sign-up  sheet  explaining  everything  about the plan.  I'm
RC> thinking  part  of  that  write up sheet will have some verbiage about
RC> automatically  downgrading to lowest tier if account is past due by 10 days.

RC> Have you looked at any of the verification stuff yet?


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RC> Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 11:15:04 AM, you wrote:

RC>> We are.  Just got through the first application/approval.

RC>> Randy Cosby
RC>> InfoWest



RC>> -Original Message-
RC>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka 
RC>> Technologies
RC>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:09 AM
RC>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
RC>> Subject: [AFMUG] EBB program

RC>> Just curious, who out there is looking at doing this?


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

[Jan-GAMs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jDcmDAUdnQ 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jDcmDAUdnQ>


On 3/12/21 3:14 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Knew it.   You've been probed

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 1:32 PM Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:


I saw one of those on a UFO once.  Bad memory.
*From:* Nate Burke
*Sent:* Friday, March 12, 2021 12:51 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says
you can't.
From https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/
<https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/>

BERLIN -- German authorities on Friday banned the sale and use of
a New Age '˜water vitalizer' device amid concerns that it is
interfering with amateur radio signals.

The Federal Network Agency said it had received numerous reports
that the device, sold by Swiss company Wassermatrix AG as a way to
'activate' the body's self-healing powers, was transmitting on the
frequencies allocated for ham radio users.

The agency said owners of the 8,000-euro ($9,540) device, which
has been sold more than 2,400 times in Germany, are allowed to
keep but not use it.

Wassermatrix AG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.


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Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program


James,

There is no pricing info on a 477.  I just printed out a december invoice for each plan from a random customer.  I redacted the customers private information.  I sent it in today, We'll see how it goes.


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Friday, March 12, 2021, 2:25:12 PM, you wrote:






I thought they said that your most recent 477 filing was that evidence.
 
 
From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 11:46 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program
 
USAC wants "Evidence that the provider had the same service offerings
available on December 1, 2020". I'm not sure what type of evidence I
can give them. Pointer to website wouldn't help. I don't think we
have ever filed any FCC or USAC paperwork that shows our pricing. Was
thinking about printing out a December invoice from random customers
for each plan and blanking out the customer info.

Thoughts?


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Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 1:21:48 PM, you wrote:

RC> Still waiting for more clarity on the verification stuff. I can't seem to
RC> find straight answers yet and I believe that's because nobody really knows
RC> yet. I've heard from some that the customer prequalifies themselves. I've
RC> also read that we will have access to the "national verifier" but I'm not
RC> certain that is the "catchall" way to qualify people. I'm nervous that we'll
RC> have a bunch of different systems to deal with (national verifier, school
RC> lunch program, local school districts, state unemployment, etc.) We shall
RC> see. 




RC> -Original Message-
RC> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
RC> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:50 AM
RC> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
RC> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

RC> Randy,

RC> We got our FCC approval yesterday. Going to do the USAC stuff
RC> tomorrow. Going to be some overhead for us, but we have to do it.

RC> I think I can put it into our billing system (PLAT) fairly easy.

RC> Big thing for me is what we are allowed to do for non-payers on our
RC> higher tier plans. I know we are going to have to write up a fairly
RC> detailed sign-up sheet explaining everything about the plan. I'm
RC> thinking part of that write up sheet will have some verbiage about
RC> automatically downgrading to lowest tier if account is past due by 10 days.

RC> Have you looked at any of the verification stuff yet?


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RC> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com

RC> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
RC> www.Myakka.com

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RC> Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 11:15:04 AM, you wrote:

RC>> We are. Just got through the first application/approval.

RC>> Randy Cosby
RC>> InfoWest



RC>> -Original Message-
RC>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka 
RC>> Technologies
RC>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:09 AM
RC>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
RC>> Subject: [AFMUG] EBB program

RC>> Just curious, who out there is looking at doing this?


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RC>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com

RC>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
RC>> www.Myakka.com


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy

[Jan-GAMs]

sorry!

On 3/12/21 10:28 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


Two days early?


bp

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

[Jaime Solorza]

Knew it.   You've been probed

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 1:32 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I saw one of those on a UFO once.  Bad memory.
>
> *From:* Nate Burke
> *Sent:* Friday, March 12, 2021 12:51 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you
> can't.
>
> From https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/
>
> BERLIN -- German authorities on Friday banned the sale and use of a New
> Age '˜water vitalizer' device amid concerns that it is interfering with
> amateur radio signals.
>
> The Federal Network Agency said it had received numerous reports that the
> device, sold by Swiss company Wassermatrix AG as a way to 'activate' the
> body's self-healing powers, was transmitting on the frequencies allocated
> for ham radio users.
>
> The agency said owners of the 8,000-euro ($9,540) device, which has been
> sold more than 2,400 times in Germany, are allowed to keep but not use it.
>
> Wassermatrix AG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.
> [image:
> https://www.dailyherald.com/storyimage/DA/20210312/news/303129896/AR/0/AR-303129896.jpg=202103121430=900=900=80]
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Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

[Mark Radabaugh]

For what it’s worth I said:

"Details of all service offerings are available at 
https://www.amplex.net/residential-wireless 
 and 
https://www.amplex.net/residential-fiber 
.   For historical information please 
see the Web Achive at: 
http://web.archive.org/web/20200406144022/https://www.amplex.net/ 
.   Service 
plans and pricing available on December 1, 2020 are unchanged as of the date of 
this letter. “

and

"Please see our prior and current FCC form 477 filings for verification of our 
service areas and product offerings.  Our most recent filing covering 
12/31/2020 was entered on 2/19/2021.”

I scanned a copy of our trifold brochure(s) with the service plans and attached 
those to the letter.

Approval came back an hour after I submitted it.

Mark


> On Mar 12, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> That's something I dont like about the government using subscription data. 
> Its dumb because it's not realistic, the customer defines that. If you offer 
> a cheap 1Mbps plan, and a customer came from dialup, they're happier than a 
> pig in shit with it, but does that mean its underserved?
> 
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 11:47 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies  > wrote:
> USAC  wants "Evidence that the provider had the same service offerings
> available  on December 1, 2020".  I'm not sure what type of evidence I
> can  give  them.   Pointer to website wouldn't help.  I don't think we
> have ever filed any FCC or USAC paperwork that shows our pricing.  Was
> thinking  about  printing out a December invoice from random customers
> for each plan and blanking out the customer info.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> --
> Best regards,
>  Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
> 
> 
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com 
> 
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> Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 1:21:48 PM, you wrote:
> 
> RC> Still waiting for more clarity on the verification stuff. I can't seem to
> RC> find straight answers yet and I believe that's because nobody really knows
> RC> yet. I've heard from some that the customer prequalifies themselves. I've
> RC> also read that we will have access to the "national verifier" but I'm not
> RC> certain that is the "catchall" way to qualify people. I'm nervous that 
> we'll
> RC> have a bunch of different systems to deal with (national verifier, school
> RC> lunch program, local school districts, state unemployment, etc.)  We shall
> RC> see. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> RC> -Original Message-
> RC> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
> Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
> RC> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:50 AM
> RC> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  >
> RC> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program
> 
> RC> Randy,
> 
> RC> We  got  our  FCC  approval  yesterday.   Going  to  do the USAC stuff
> RC> tomorrow.  Going to be some overhead for us, but we have to do it.
> 
> RC> I think I can put it into our billing system (PLAT) fairly easy.
> 
> RC> Big  thing  for  me is what we are allowed to do for non-payers on our
> RC> higher  tier  plans.  I know we are going to have to write up a fairly
> RC> detailed  sign-up  sheet  explaining  everything  about the plan.  I'm
> RC> thinking  part  of  that  write up sheet will have some verbiage about
> RC> automatically  downgrading to lowest tier if account is past due by 10 
> days.
> 
> RC> Have you looked at any of the verification stuff yet?
> 
> 
> RC> --
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> RC>  Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
> 
> 
> RC> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> RC> www.Myakka.com 
> 
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> RC> Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 11:15:04 AM, you wrote:
> 
> RC>> We are.  Just got through the first application/approval.
> 
> RC>> Randy Cosby
> RC>> InfoWest
> 
> 
> 
> RC>> -Original Message-
> RC>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
> Behalf Of Mark - Myakka 
> RC>> Technologies
> RC>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:09 AM
> RC>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  >
> RC>> Subject: [AFMUG] EBB program
> 
> RC>> Just curious, who out there is looking at doing this?
> 
> 
> RC>> --
> 
> RC>> Thanks,
> RC>>  Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com 
> 
> 
> RC>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> RC>> www.Myakka.com 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, but there's probably a thousand different people selling those
shirts... most of them in China

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 3:13 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> they say theres like 23 million Q believers, almost everyone of those
> bought at least one 14 dollar Q shirt - over 300 million bucks
> stupid people tend to be the loosest with their cash
> dont believe me? ask Tim Cook, he knows.
> Imagine a half eaten fruit logo put on that $10k water dildo
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 2:39 PM castarritt  wrote:
>
>> I'm not even mad, I'm impressed.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 2:34 PM Cassidy B. Larson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like it’s actually 2,400 times. That’s $22.8 million. Dang.
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>>
>>> So 240 different people each paid $9540 for a magic wand that shoots
>>> radio waves into their water.
>>>
>>> $2.2 million gross and only 240 customers to support.  I am doing this
>>> all wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/12/2021 2:51 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>>
>>> From https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/
>>>
>>> BERLIN -- German authorities on Friday banned the sale and use of a New
>>> Age '˜water vitalizer' device amid concerns that it is interfering with
>>> amateur radio signals.
>>>
>>> The Federal Network Agency said it had received numerous reports that
>>> the device, sold by Swiss company Wassermatrix AG as a way to 'activate'
>>> the body's self-healing powers, was transmitting on the frequencies
>>> allocated for ham radio users.
>>>
>>>
>>> The agency said owners of the 8,000-euro ($9,540) device, which has been
>>> sold more than 2,400 times in Germany, are allowed to keep but not use it.
>>>
>>> Wassermatrix AG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig

[Jaime Solorza]

I agree...I do radio mobile path analysis and have been dead on with
licensed 900MHz links...
When I worked for ESS and first starting working on  EPWU projects back in
2005-6, I suggested using 4.9GHz for their PTP backhauls.
Now they are going to start phasing out 900MHz in some locations and use
4.9..
They are not aware that right across the border, Cd. Juarez now has tons of
Radwin 4.9GHz linksshould be interesting...


On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 2:59 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> And a whole lot easier and faster.
>
> *From:* Brian Webster
> *Sent:* Friday, March 12, 2021 2:07 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig
>
>
> For much less than 65 grand I could do path studies using the LIDAR data.
> That stuff is accurate to about 2 feet.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Friday, March 12, 2021 3:45 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig
>
>
>
> They are doing path studies at 4.9GHz
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 1:36 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> is that for bringing up temporary telemetry data or something?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 2:27 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Yep a $70k cow with trailer and all..65ft
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 12:08 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> is that a COW?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:00 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Our water utilities just got this!
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Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig

[Chuck McCown via AF]

And a whole lot easier and faster.  

From: Brian Webster 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 2:07 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig

For much less than 65 grand I could do path studies using the LIDAR data. That 
stuff is accurate to about 2 feet.

 

Thank you,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 3:45 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig

 

They are doing path studies at 4.9GHz 

 

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 1:36 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

  is that for bringing up temporary telemetry data or something?

   

  On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 2:27 PM Jaime Solorza  
wrote:

Yep a $70k cow with trailer and all..65ft

 

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 12:08 PM Steve Jones  
wrote:

  is that a COW?

   

  On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:00 PM Jaime Solorza 
 wrote:

Our water utilities just got this! 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Damn. I paid over $20 for my Q shirt.


bp

On 3/12/2021 1:07 PM, Steve Jones
  wrote:


  
  they say theres like 23 million Q believers, almost
everyone of those bought at least one 14 dollar Q shirt - over
300 million bucks
stupid people tend to be the loosest with their cash
dont believe me? ask Tim Cook, he knows.
Imagine a half eaten fruit logo put on that $10k water
  dildo
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 2:39
  PM castarritt <castarr...@gmail.com> wrote:


  I'm not even mad, I'm impressed.
  
  
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at
  2:34 PM Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com> wrote:


  Looks like it’s actually 2,400 times. That’s $22.8
million. Dang. 

  
On Mar 12, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
  wrote:


  
So 240 different people each paid $9540 for a
  magic wand that shoots radio waves into their
  water.
$2.2 million gross and only 240 customers to
  support.  I am doing this all wrong.  



On 3/12/2021 2:51 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

 From https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/
  
  BERLIN -- German authorities on Friday banned
  the sale and use of a New Age '˜water
  vitalizer' device amid concerns that it is
  interfering with amateur radio signals.
  The Federal Network Agency said it had
received numerous reports that the device,
sold by Swiss company Wassermatrix AG as a
way to 'activate' the body's self-healing
powers, was transmitting on the frequencies
allocated for ham radio users.
  
 

   

 
  
  The agency said owners of the 8,000-euro
($9,540) device, which has been sold more
than 2,400 times in Germany, are allowed to
keep but not use it.
  Wassermatrix AG didn't immediately respond
to a request for comment.
  
  
  

  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

[Steve Jones]

they say theres like 23 million Q believers, almost everyone of those
bought at least one 14 dollar Q shirt - over 300 million bucks
stupid people tend to be the loosest with their cash
dont believe me? ask Tim Cook, he knows.
Imagine a half eaten fruit logo put on that $10k water dildo



On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 2:39 PM castarritt  wrote:

> I'm not even mad, I'm impressed.
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 2:34 PM Cassidy B. Larson 
> wrote:
>
>> Looks like it’s actually 2,400 times. That’s $22.8 million. Dang.
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>
>> So 240 different people each paid $9540 for a magic wand that shoots
>> radio waves into their water.
>>
>> $2.2 million gross and only 240 customers to support.  I am doing this
>> all wrong.
>>
>>
>> On 3/12/2021 2:51 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>
>> From https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/
>>
>> BERLIN -- German authorities on Friday banned the sale and use of a New
>> Age '˜water vitalizer' device amid concerns that it is interfering with
>> amateur radio signals.
>>
>> The Federal Network Agency said it had received numerous reports that the
>> device, sold by Swiss company Wassermatrix AG as a way to 'activate' the
>> body's self-healing powers, was transmitting on the frequencies allocated
>> for ham radio users.
>>
>>
>> The agency said owners of the 8,000-euro ($9,540) device, which has been
>> sold more than 2,400 times in Germany, are allowed to keep but not use it.
>>
>> Wassermatrix AG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig

[Brian Webster]

For much less than 65 grand I could do path studies using the LIDAR data. That 
stuff is accurate to about 2 feet.

 

Thank you,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 3:45 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig

 

They are doing path studies at 4.9GHz 

 

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 1:36 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

is that for bringing up temporary telemetry data or something?

 

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 2:27 PM Jaime Solorza  wrote:

Yep a $70k cow with trailer and all..65ft

 

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 12:08 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

is that a COW?

 

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:00 PM Jaime Solorza  
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Our water utilities just got this! 

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Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig

[Jaime Solorza]

They are doing path studies at 4.9GHz

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 1:36 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> is that for bringing up temporary telemetry data or something?
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 2:27 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Yep a $70k cow with trailer and all..65ft
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 12:08 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> is that a COW?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:00 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Our water utilities just got this!
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

[castarritt]

I'm not even mad, I'm impressed.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 2:34 PM Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:

> Looks like it’s actually 2,400 times. That’s $22.8 million. Dang.
>
> On Mar 12, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
> So 240 different people each paid $9540 for a magic wand that shoots radio
> waves into their water.
>
> $2.2 million gross and only 240 customers to support.  I am doing this all
> wrong.
>
>
> On 3/12/2021 2:51 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>
> From https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/
>
> BERLIN -- German authorities on Friday banned the sale and use of a New
> Age '˜water vitalizer' device amid concerns that it is interfering with
> amateur radio signals.
>
> The Federal Network Agency said it had received numerous reports that the
> device, sold by Swiss company Wassermatrix AG as a way to 'activate' the
> body's self-healing powers, was transmitting on the frequencies allocated
> for ham radio users.
>
>
> The agency said owners of the 8,000-euro ($9,540) device, which has been
> sold more than 2,400 times in Germany, are allowed to keep but not use it.
>
> Wassermatrix AG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.
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Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig

[Adam Moffett]

fishducky, finally!: DON'T HAVE A COW, MAN!

On 3/12/2021 2:28 PM, James Howard wrote:


I thought you said you’d quit drinking (or was that if Ken came 
back?).   I know you’re not from America’s Dairyland but everybody 
should know that a cow has 4 legs and moos……


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is that a COW?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:00 PM Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Our water utilities just got this!

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

[Adam Moffett]

Yeah I missed a zero.  That's freakin bananas.  They must have made a 
really convincing You Tube video to promote that crap.



On 3/12/2021 3:27 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

2,400 times in Germany alone  That's $22.9M

On 3/12/2021 2:21 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:


So 240 different people each paid $9540 for a magic wand that shoots 
radio waves into their water.


$2.2 million gross and only 240 customers to support.  I am doing 
this all wrong.



On 3/12/2021 2:51 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

From https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/

BERLIN -- German authorities on Friday banned the sale and use of a 
New Age '˜water vitalizer' device amid concerns that it is 
interfering with amateur radio signals.


The Federal Network Agency said it had received numerous reports 
that the device, sold by Swiss company Wassermatrix AG as a way to 
'activate'� the body's self-healing powers, was transmitting on the 
frequencies allocated for ham radio users.


The agency said owners of the 8,000-euro ($9,540) device, which has 
been sold more than 2,400 times in Germany, are allowed to keep but 
not use it.


Wassermatrix AG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

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Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig

[Steve Jones]

is that for bringing up temporary telemetry data or something?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 2:27 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Yep a $70k cow with trailer and all..65ft
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 12:08 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> is that a COW?
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:00 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Our water utilities just got this!
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

[Cassidy B. Larson]

Looks like it’s actually 2,400 times. That’s $22.8 million. Dang. 

> On Mar 12, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> So 240 different people each paid $9540 for a magic wand that shoots radio 
> waves into their water.
> 
> $2.2 million gross and only 240 customers to support.  I am doing this all 
> wrong.  
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/12/2021 2:51 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>> From https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/ 
>> <https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/>
>> 
>> BERLIN -- German authorities on Friday banned the sale and use of a New Age 
>> '˜water vitalizer' device amid concerns that it is interfering with amateur 
>> radio signals.
>> The Federal Network Agency said it had received numerous reports that the 
>> device, sold by Swiss company Wassermatrix AG as a way to 'activate' the 
>> body's self-healing powers, was transmitting on the frequencies allocated 
>> for ham radio users.
>> 
>>  
>> The agency said owners of the 8,000-euro ($9,540) device, which has been 
>> sold more than 2,400 times in Germany, are allowed to keep but not use it.
>> 
>> Wassermatrix AG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy

[Chuck McCown via AF]

I still use 3 digits for almost everything.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 1:13 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy

My freshman physics professor always told me that 3 digits of resolution is all 
that's really needed. Of course, we were doing all of our calculations on slide 
rules, so 3 digits is all that you can resonably get, unless you want to make 
stuff up.



bp
On 3/12/2021 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  Well, we are celebrating it today.  Plus, I am sure at some time in history, 
PI was defined as 3.12
  My dad taught me it was 22/7

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 11:28 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy

  Two days early?



bp
On 3/12/2021 10:19 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Pi Day  

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

[Nate Burke]

2,400 times in Germany alone  That's $22.9M

On 3/12/2021 2:21 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:


So 240 different people each paid $9540 for a magic wand that shoots 
radio waves into their water.


$2.2 million gross and only 240 customers to support.  I am doing this 
all wrong.



On 3/12/2021 2:51 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

From https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/

BERLIN -- German authorities on Friday banned the sale and use of a 
New Age '˜water vitalizer' device amid concerns that it is 
interfering with amateur radio signals.


The Federal Network Agency said it had received numerous reports that 
the device, sold by Swiss company Wassermatrix AG as a way to 
'activate'� the body's self-healing powers, was transmitting on the 
frequencies allocated for ham radio users.


The agency said owners of the 8,000-euro ($9,540) device, which has 
been sold more than 2,400 times in Germany, are allowed to keep but 
not use it.


Wassermatrix AG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

[Chuck McCown via AF]

I saw one of those on a UFO once.  Bad memory.  

From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 12:51 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

>From https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/

BERLIN -- German authorities on Friday banned the sale and use of a New Age 
'˜water vitalizer' device amid concerns that it is interfering with amateur 
radio signals. 
The Federal Network Agency said it had received numerous reports that the 
device, sold by Swiss company Wassermatrix AG as a way to 'activate' the 
body's self-healing powers, was transmitting on the frequencies allocated for 
ham radio users.


The agency said owners of the 8,000-euro ($9,540) device, which has been sold 
more than 2,400 times in Germany, are allowed to keep but not use it.

Wassermatrix AG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

 



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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

[Steve Jones]

are these available from adam and eve dot com?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 1:52 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> From https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/
>
> BERLIN -- German authorities on Friday banned the sale and use of a New
> Age '˜water vitalizer' device amid concerns that it is interfering with
> amateur radio signals.
>
> The Federal Network Agency said it had received numerous reports that the
> device, sold by Swiss company Wassermatrix AG as a way to 'activate' the
> body's self-healing powers, was transmitting on the frequencies allocated
> for ham radio users.
>
>
> The agency said owners of the 8,000-euro ($9,540) device, which has been
> sold more than 2,400 times in Germany, are allowed to keep but not use it.
>
> Wassermatrix AG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Yeah and they freak out if you ask for a napkin to wipe your mouth.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 12:08 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy

europe calls cookies biscuits, we dont talk about europe

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:57 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

  Does that mean July 22nd is Pi day in Europe?


  On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:39 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

Well, we are celebrating it today.  Plus, I am sure at some time in 
history, PI was defined as 3.12
My dad taught me it was 22/7

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 11:28 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy

Two days early?



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On 3/12/2021 10:19 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  Pi Day  

   


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Re: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector

[Chuck McCown via AF]

High gain parabolics really don’t let stuff off the main beam focus on the 
feedhorn.  It does focus but not in an area that will channel it down the feed. 
 On a smaller antenna the beam width might be 5 or 10 degrees.  So if the 
energy in in that area it will be into the feed and cause cancellation and 
fading. 

Patch antennas and yagis can get reflections from almost any direction.  But 
not parabolics.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 12:07 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector

reflected power?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:20 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  No, if the signal is off boresight it will miss the feedhorn.  It has to be 
pretty well aligned with the main beam.  

  From: Steve Jones 
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 3:34 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector

  id considered something like this but to make it a functional thing it would 
have to monitor the two radios and turn up or down a port based on better 
performing system. the guy with the two radios doesnt complain, prefers to not 
have to wait on us to come move it up to the roof or down to the post. its 
cheaper than a truck roll twice a year. 

  but to the original question, a ground reflected wavelength to a parabolic 
antenna, is that reflected off the top half of the dish into the feedhorn?

  On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 4:23 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

Since none of the PMP vendors have a space diversity option, I wonder about 
just putting up two radios and bonding them at the ethernet level.  If it is 
multipath fading, both radios should not be faded at the same time.  Would OSPF 
or RSTP or EIGRP be able to deal with this scenario?

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 2:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector

this is one that was part of a group of similar issues. We had one that is 
white paper level multipath. I can tell you the day and time they start the 
harvest across the street and the time they finish it. that one we ended up 
just installing 2 radios and they swap power supplies twice a year. 

this one is facing west and looking at it the dips begin sharply around 4pm 
the last week, around noon the week before. thats about the time it starts to 
cool back down, not that its all that warm. its muddy fields so the surface is 
soggier in the day, firms up more when it cools. yesterday was super windy and 
it didnt do it, probably the soil is dryer.

IIRC i have her radio right now peaking over the ridge of the roof from her 
tower.

Im planning on going out and putting it on a 12 foot post to halve the 
fresnel, sable marginal is better than unstable marginal.

the first guy i mentioned here is actually a pretty cool case. this general 
region is super high iron content in the soil, we have another area this is 
really common and their soil samples are really high as well, i dont know if 
iron oxide is more reflective han dirt dirt or if certain circumstances make it 
that way. or could be whatever causes the soil to be more iron rich causes it. 
or soil content could have nothing to do with it. I had gotten the sample 
results from a soil testing joint thats a customer, thought i could figure it 
out but its one of those things somebody smarter than me could probably figure 
out.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 3:23 PM Brian Webster  
wrote:

  Doe this customer have the issue at a certain time of the day? Maybe 
around sunrise or sunset. It may be possible that it’s not multipath but at 
certain times of the year the antenna has a good path to picking up noise from 
the sun and that could be stronger than your AP signal? This usually is 
exhibited on paths that have an East/West orientation. Depending on the gain of 
the antenna it can be worse than others. Think of the sun either just above the 
horizon at sunrise or sunset and the focal beam on the antenna is such that it 
picks up that noise enough to be stronger than the AP. Depending on the time of 
year, tilt angle of the Earth etc., it looks like a seasonal issue.



  Thank you,

  Brian Webster

  www.wirelessmapping.com



  From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 1:36 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  Subject: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector



  our APs sit between 90 and 110 feet on average in flat terrain so we deal 
with alot of seasonal ground reflectivity issues. We have this one customer 
presenting again with whats probably multipath fading, I had tried putting a 
shield on the bottom half of the reflector once out of curiosity. It didnt do 
much

  what im wondering though is how the ground reflected multipath feeds into 
the feedhorn.

  is it reflecting off the top half of the dish and into the feedhorn 

Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep a $70k cow with trailer and all..65ft

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 12:08 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> is that a COW?
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:00 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Our water utilities just got this!
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

[Adam Moffett]

So 240 different people each paid $9540 for a magic wand that shoots 
radio waves into their water.


$2.2 million gross and only 240 customers to support.  I am doing this 
all wrong.



On 3/12/2021 2:51 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

From https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/

BERLIN -- German authorities on Friday banned the sale and use of a 
New Age '˜water vitalizer' device amid concerns that it is interfering 
with amateur radio signals.


The Federal Network Agency said it had received numerous reports that 
the device, sold by Swiss company Wassermatrix AG as a way to 
'activate' the body's self-healing powers, was transmitting on the 
frequencies allocated for ham radio users.


The agency said owners of the 8,000-euro ($9,540) device, which has 
been sold more than 2,400 times in Germany, are allowed to keep but 
not use it.


Wassermatrix AG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy

[Bill Prince]

  
  
My freshman physics professor always told me that 3 digits of
  resolution is all that's really needed. Of course, we were doing
  all of our calculations on slide rules, so 3 digits is all that
  you can resonably get, unless you want to make stuff up.


bp

On 3/12/2021 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown via
  AF wrote:


  
  

  Well, we are celebrating it today.  Plus, I am sure at
some time in history, PI was defined as 3.12
  My dad taught me it was 22/7
  

   
  
From: Bill
Prince 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 11:28 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy
  

 
  
  
Two days early?
 
bp

On 3/12/2021 10:19 AM, Chuck
  McCown via AF wrote:


  

  Pi Day  

  
  
  




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[AFMUG] OT: Need to vitalize your water? Germany says you can't.

[Nate Burke]

From https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20210312/news/303129896/

BERLIN -- German authorities on Friday banned the sale and use of a New 
Age '˜water vitalizer' device amid concerns that it is interfering with 
amateur radio signals.


The Federal Network Agency said it had received numerous reports that 
the device, sold by Swiss company Wassermatrix AG as a way to 
'activate' the body's self-healing powers, was transmitting on the 
frequencies allocated for ham radio users.


The agency said owners of the 8,000-euro ($9,540) device, which has been 
sold more than 2,400 times in Germany, are allowed to keep but not use it.


Wassermatrix AG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

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Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

[Steve Jones]

That's something I dont like about the government using subscription data.
Its dumb because it's not realistic, the customer defines that. If you
offer a cheap 1Mbps plan, and a customer came from dialup, they're happier
than a pig in shit with it, but does that mean its underserved?

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wrote:

> USAC  wants "Evidence that the provider had the same service offerings
> available  on December 1, 2020".  I'm not sure what type of evidence I
> can  give  them.   Pointer to website wouldn't help.  I don't think we
> have ever filed any FCC or USAC paperwork that shows our pricing.  Was
> thinking  about  printing out a December invoice from random customers
> for each plan and blanking out the customer info.
>
> Thoughts?
>
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> Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 1:21:48 PM, you wrote:
>
> RC> Still waiting for more clarity on the verification stuff. I can't seem
> to
> RC> find straight answers yet and I believe that's because nobody really
> knows
> RC> yet. I've heard from some that the customer prequalifies themselves.
> I've
> RC> also read that we will have access to the "national verifier" but I'm
> not
> RC> certain that is the "catchall" way to qualify people. I'm nervous that
> we'll
> RC> have a bunch of different systems to deal with (national verifier,
> school
> RC> lunch program, local school districts, state unemployment, etc.)  We
> shall
> RC> see.
>
>
>
>
> RC> -Original Message-
> RC> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka
> Technologies
> RC> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:50 AM
> RC> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> RC> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program
>
> RC> Randy,
>
> RC> We  got  our  FCC  approval  yesterday.   Going  to  do the USAC stuff
> RC> tomorrow.  Going to be some overhead for us, but we have to do it.
>
> RC> I think I can put it into our billing system (PLAT) fairly easy.
>
> RC> Big  thing  for  me is what we are allowed to do for non-payers on our
> RC> higher  tier  plans.  I know we are going to have to write up a fairly
> RC> detailed  sign-up  sheet  explaining  everything  about the plan.  I'm
> RC> thinking  part  of  that  write up sheet will have some verbiage about
> RC> automatically  downgrading to lowest tier if account is past due by 10
> days.
>
> RC> Have you looked at any of the verification stuff yet?
>
>
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> RC>  Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
> RC> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> RC> www.Myakka.com
>
> RC> --
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> RC> Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 11:15:04 AM, you wrote:
>
> RC>> We are.  Just got through the first application/approval.
>
> RC>> Randy Cosby
> RC>> InfoWest
>
>
>
> RC>> -Original Message-
> RC>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka
> RC>> Technologies
> RC>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:09 AM
> RC>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> RC>> Subject: [AFMUG] EBB program
>
> RC>> Just curious, who out there is looking at doing this?
>
>
> RC>> --
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>
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Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig

[James Howard]

I thought you said you'd quit drinking (or was that if Ken came back?).   I 
know you're not from America's Dairyland but everybody should know that a cow 
has 4 legs and moos..

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 1:07 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig

is that a COW?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:00 PM Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Our water utilities just got this!
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Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

[James Howard]

I thought they said that your most recent 477 filing was that evidence.


From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 11:46 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

USAC wants "Evidence that the provider had the same service offerings
available on December 1, 2020". I'm not sure what type of evidence I
can give them. Pointer to website wouldn't help. I don't think we
have ever filed any FCC or USAC paperwork that shows our pricing. Was
thinking about printing out a December invoice from random customers
for each plan and blanking out the customer info.

Thoughts?


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RC> Still waiting for more clarity on the verification stuff. I can't seem to
RC> find straight answers yet and I believe that's because nobody really knows
RC> yet. I've heard from some that the customer prequalifies themselves. I've
RC> also read that we will have access to the "national verifier" but I'm not
RC> certain that is the "catchall" way to qualify people. I'm nervous that we'll
RC> have a bunch of different systems to deal with (national verifier, school
RC> lunch program, local school districts, state unemployment, etc.) We shall
RC> see.




RC> -Original Message-
RC> From: AF  On 
Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
RC> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:50 AM
RC> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

RC> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

RC> Randy,

RC> We got our FCC approval yesterday. Going to do the USAC stuff
RC> tomorrow. Going to be some overhead for us, but we have to do it.

RC> I think I can put it into our billing system (PLAT) fairly easy.

RC> Big thing for me is what we are allowed to do for non-payers on our
RC> higher tier plans. I know we are going to have to write up a fairly
RC> detailed sign-up sheet explaining everything about the plan. I'm
RC> thinking part of that write up sheet will have some verbiage about
RC> automatically downgrading to lowest tier if account is past due by 10 days.

RC> Have you looked at any of the verification stuff yet?


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RC> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com

RC> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
RC> www.Myakka.com

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RC>> We are. Just got through the first application/approval.

RC>> Randy Cosby
RC>> InfoWest



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RC>> Subject: [AFMUG] EBB program

RC>> Just curious, who out there is looking at doing this?


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy

[Steve Jones]

europe calls cookies biscuits, we dont talk about europe

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:57 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Does that mean July 22nd is Pi day in Europe?
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:39 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, we are celebrating it today.  Plus, I am sure at some time in
>> history, PI was defined as 3.12
>> My dad taught me it was 22/7
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 12, 2021 11:28 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy
>>
>>
>> Two days early?
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>> On 3/12/2021 10:19 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>
>> Pi Day
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector

[Steve Jones]

reflected power?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:20 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
wrote:

> No, if the signal is off boresight it will miss the feedhorn.  It has to
> be pretty well aligned with the main beam.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 11, 2021 3:34 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector
>
> id considered something like this but to make it a functional thing it
> would have to monitor the two radios and turn up or down a port based on
> better performing system. the guy with the two radios doesnt complain,
> prefers to not have to wait on us to come move it up to the roof or down to
> the post. its cheaper than a truck roll twice a year.
>
> but to the original question, a ground reflected wavelength to a parabolic
> antenna, is that reflected off the top half of the dish into the feedhorn?
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 4:23 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> Since none of the PMP vendors have a space diversity option, I wonder
>> about just putting up two radios and bonding them at the ethernet level.
>> If it is multipath fading, both radios should not be faded at the same
>> time.  Would OSPF or RSTP or EIGRP be able to deal with this scenario?
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 11, 2021 2:44 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector
>>
>> this is one that was part of a group of similar issues. We had one that
>> is white paper level multipath. I can tell you the day and time they start
>> the harvest across the street and the time they finish it. that one we
>> ended up just installing 2 radios and they swap power supplies twice a
>> year.
>>
>> this one is facing west and looking at it the dips begin sharply around
>> 4pm the last week, around noon the week before. thats about the time it
>> starts to cool back down, not that its all that warm. its muddy fields so
>> the surface is soggier in the day, firms up more when it cools. yesterday
>> was super windy and it didnt do it, probably the soil is dryer.
>>
>> IIRC i have her radio right now peaking over the ridge of the roof from
>> her tower.
>>
>> Im planning on going out and putting it on a 12 foot post to halve the
>> fresnel, sable marginal is better than unstable marginal.
>>
>> the first guy i mentioned here is actually a pretty cool case. this
>> general region is super high iron content in the soil, we have another area
>> this is really common and their soil samples are really high as well, i
>> dont know if iron oxide is more reflective han dirt dirt or if certain
>> circumstances make it that way. or could be whatever causes the soil to be
>> more iron rich causes it. or soil content could have nothing to do with it.
>> I had gotten the sample results from a soil testing joint thats a customer,
>> thought i could figure it out but its one of those things somebody smarter
>> than me could probably figure out.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 3:23 PM Brian Webster 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Doe this customer have the issue at a certain time of the day? Maybe
>>> around sunrise or sunset. It may be possible that it’s not multipath but at
>>> certain times of the year the antenna has a good path to picking up noise
>>> from the sun and that could be stronger than your AP signal? This usually
>>> is exhibited on paths that have an East/West orientation. Depending on the
>>> gain of the antenna it can be worse than others. Think of the sun either
>>> just above the horizon at sunrise or sunset and the focal beam on the
>>> antenna is such that it picks up that noise enough to be stronger than the
>>> AP. Depending on the time of year, tilt angle of the Earth etc., it looks
>>> like a seasonal issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Brian Webster
>>>
>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 11, 2021 1:36 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> our APs sit between 90 and 110 feet on average in flat terrain so we
>>> deal with alot of seasonal ground reflectivity issues. We have this one
>>> customer presenting again with whats probably multipath fading, I had tried
>>> putting a shield on the bottom half of the reflector once out of curiosity.
>>> It didnt do much
>>>
>>> what im wondering though is how the ground reflected multipath feeds
>>> into the feedhorn.
>>>
>>> is it reflecting off the top half of the dish and into the feedhorn like
>>> a mirror?
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Re: [AFMUG] Nice rig

[Steve Jones]

is that a COW?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:00 PM Jaime Solorza 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy

[Mathew Howard]

Does that mean July 22nd is Pi day in Europe?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:39 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
wrote:

> Well, we are celebrating it today.  Plus, I am sure at some time in
> history, PI was defined as 3.12
> My dad taught me it was 22/7
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Friday, March 12, 2021 11:28 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy
>
>
> Two days early?
>
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 3/12/2021 10:19 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> Pi Day
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Well, we are celebrating it today.  Plus, I am sure at some time in history, PI 
was defined as 3.12
My dad taught me it was 22/7

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 11:28 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy

Two days early?



bp
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  Pi Day  

   



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Re: [AFMUG] Wanted: Blank Calix 844 (GigaCenter) Branded Covers

[cgray]

Josh, 

 

You can get batches of them branded. I’m hoping to find someone who got a batch 
branded, and kept the blank ones they replaced. I have a bunch without covers 
and would like to fill them in. 

 

Thank you, Chris

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 10:04 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanted: Blank Calix 844 (GigaCenter) Branded Covers

 

I have NIB 844G, but I'm not willing to part with simply the cover.


I wasn't aware you could get those branded.


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:29 AM mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com> > wrote:

Anyone have a pile of blank/unbranded “branded fiber covers” from the Calix 
GigaCenter line?

 

I’m looking for 30-100 or so. 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Two days early?


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Re: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector

[Chuck McCown via AF]

No, if the signal is off boresight it will miss the feedhorn.  It has to be 
pretty well aligned with the main beam.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 3:34 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector

id considered something like this but to make it a functional thing it would 
have to monitor the two radios and turn up or down a port based on better 
performing system. the guy with the two radios doesnt complain, prefers to not 
have to wait on us to come move it up to the roof or down to the post. its 
cheaper than a truck roll twice a year. 

but to the original question, a ground reflected wavelength to a parabolic 
antenna, is that reflected off the top half of the dish into the feedhorn?

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 4:23 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  Since none of the PMP vendors have a space diversity option, I wonder about 
just putting up two radios and bonding them at the ethernet level.  If it is 
multipath fading, both radios should not be faded at the same time.  Would OSPF 
or RSTP or EIGRP be able to deal with this scenario?

  From: Steve Jones 
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 2:44 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector

  this is one that was part of a group of similar issues. We had one that is 
white paper level multipath. I can tell you the day and time they start the 
harvest across the street and the time they finish it. that one we ended up 
just installing 2 radios and they swap power supplies twice a year. 

  this one is facing west and looking at it the dips begin sharply around 4pm 
the last week, around noon the week before. thats about the time it starts to 
cool back down, not that its all that warm. its muddy fields so the surface is 
soggier in the day, firms up more when it cools. yesterday was super windy and 
it didnt do it, probably the soil is dryer.

  IIRC i have her radio right now peaking over the ridge of the roof from her 
tower.

  Im planning on going out and putting it on a 12 foot post to halve the 
fresnel, sable marginal is better than unstable marginal.

  the first guy i mentioned here is actually a pretty cool case. this general 
region is super high iron content in the soil, we have another area this is 
really common and their soil samples are really high as well, i dont know if 
iron oxide is more reflective han dirt dirt or if certain circumstances make it 
that way. or could be whatever causes the soil to be more iron rich causes it. 
or soil content could have nothing to do with it. I had gotten the sample 
results from a soil testing joint thats a customer, thought i could figure it 
out but its one of those things somebody smarter than me could probably figure 
out.

  On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 3:23 PM Brian Webster  
wrote:

Doe this customer have the issue at a certain time of the day? Maybe around 
sunrise or sunset. It may be possible that it’s not multipath but at certain 
times of the year the antenna has a good path to picking up noise from the sun 
and that could be stronger than your AP signal? This usually is exhibited on 
paths that have an East/West orientation. Depending on the gain of the antenna 
it can be worse than others. Think of the sun either just above the horizon at 
sunrise or sunset and the focal beam on the antenna is such that it picks up 
that noise enough to be stronger than the AP. Depending on the time of year, 
tilt angle of the Earth etc., it looks like a seasonal issue.



Thank you,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com



From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 1:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector



our APs sit between 90 and 110 feet on average in flat terrain so we deal 
with alot of seasonal ground reflectivity issues. We have this one customer 
presenting again with whats probably multipath fading, I had tried putting a 
shield on the bottom half of the reflector once out of curiosity. It didnt do 
much

what im wondering though is how the ground reflected multipath feeds into 
the feedhorn.

is it reflecting off the top half of the dish and into the feedhorn like a 
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Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

USAC  wants "Evidence that the provider had the same service offerings
available  on December 1, 2020".  I'm not sure what type of evidence I
can  give  them.   Pointer to website wouldn't help.  I don't think we
have ever filed any FCC or USAC paperwork that shows our pricing.  Was
thinking  about  printing out a December invoice from random customers
for each plan and blanking out the customer info.

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Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 1:21:48 PM, you wrote:

RC> Still waiting for more clarity on the verification stuff. I can't seem to
RC> find straight answers yet and I believe that's because nobody really knows
RC> yet. I've heard from some that the customer prequalifies themselves. I've
RC> also read that we will have access to the "national verifier" but I'm not
RC> certain that is the "catchall" way to qualify people. I'm nervous that we'll
RC> have a bunch of different systems to deal with (national verifier, school
RC> lunch program, local school districts, state unemployment, etc.)  We shall
RC> see. 




RC> -Original Message-
RC> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
RC> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:50 AM
RC> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
RC> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

RC> Randy,

RC> We  got  our  FCC  approval  yesterday.   Going  to  do the USAC stuff
RC> tomorrow.  Going to be some overhead for us, but we have to do it.

RC> I think I can put it into our billing system (PLAT) fairly easy.

RC> Big  thing  for  me is what we are allowed to do for non-payers on our
RC> higher  tier  plans.  I know we are going to have to write up a fairly
RC> detailed  sign-up  sheet  explaining  everything  about the plan.  I'm
RC> thinking  part  of  that  write up sheet will have some verbiage about
RC> automatically  downgrading to lowest tier if account is past due by 10 days.

RC> Have you looked at any of the verification stuff yet?


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RC>> We are.  Just got through the first application/approval.

RC>> Randy Cosby
RC>> InfoWest



RC>> -Original Message-
RC>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka 
RC>> Technologies
RC>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:09 AM
RC>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
RC>> Subject: [AFMUG] EBB program

RC>> Just curious, who out there is looking at doing this?


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Re: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector

[Jaime Solorza]

We did a link from Corpus Cristi to Freeport, Tx  with Tsunami radios using
4 ft dishesHorizontal polarity ended up working better in the long run..
So long ago
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 8:48 AM Steven Kenney  wrote:

> Speaking of multipath... we've had customers 250ft up on the point reach
> across the lake to all the homes along the store for 14 years.  Depending
> on the conditions of the water there is no fade margin large enough to stop
> it from multipath issues.  We even had a couple feeds to grain elevators
> back there that would cut out.  You get fog or calm waters ...
>
> I used to always joke with customers that the UFO base under Lake Erie
> must be broadcasting again.   This has been our more difficult challenge to
> get internet to. Finally we gave up and are now in progress to fiber them
> up.
>
>
>
> [image: logo] 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> * STEVEN KENNEY *
> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N |
> Leamington ON
> E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283
> W: www.wavedirect.net
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> *To: *"af" 
> *Sent: *Thursday, March 11, 2021 1:36:11 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] multipath on a reflector
>
> our APs sit between 90 and 110 feet on average in flat terrain so we deal
> with alot of seasonal ground reflectivity issues. We have this one customer
> presenting again with whats probably multipath fading, I had tried putting
> a shield on the bottom half of the reflector once out of curiosity. It
> didnt do much
> what im wondering though is how the ground reflected multipath feeds into
> the feedhorn.
> is it reflecting off the top half of the dish and into the feedhorn like a
> mirror?
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Re: [AFMUG] utility outage notifications

[Adam Moffett]

NYSEG and National Grid both ask for an account number, but once I get a 
person on the phone I say "Can you look up the location by the meter 
number" and they *sigh* and say "well I have to look in a different 
system, but yes."  And then they go do it.   Then it's always, "nobody 
else reported an outage, are you /sure/ it's not a breaker?"  And like 
yeah, I can see your popped fuse at the bottom of the access Rd, I may 
be the only one out, but it's definitely out.


If you compare runtime to cost and space, DC rectifier actually looks 
pretty good compared to a UPS with external battery battery packs.  But 
we still sometimes have UPS's because that's what made sense financially 
at that site.  and I can't deny that any helper monkey can plug in 
an AC outlet whereas DC seems to fry people's brains.



On 3/12/2021 10:44 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

Its irritating,comed requires account number to even make a report.

We are working on that runtime, but with APC it's just too much 
physical space


On Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 11:17 PM Adam Moffett > wrote:


My philosophy now is that I should have 12+ hours of battery
power, and enough smarts on the network to know that the AC power
is off or on.  Then when I start to get alerts I have lots of time
to figure out what's going on and plenty of time to deal with it.

I wish I had a more direct answer to the original question, but I
don't think there is one.  As a tenant at a site, I do like to
make note of the meter number so I can call the elec co and ask if
there's a known outage, and/or report an outage if I know about it.


On 3/11/2021 9:03 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:

For quick and easy monitoring of lower-priority sites (e.g.
relatives' homes) I recommend putting a static IP on their CPE
and allowing pings, and making a free account on a site such as
https://uptimerobot.com/pricing/
 . If either the internet or
power goes out, you get an email within 5 minutes. You can also
setup additional monitoring to differentiate those causes by
putting the CPE on a UPS and putting a simple NATed web server
behind it (not on UPS).

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 7:42 PM Andrew Haninger
mailto:ahan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

My electric company installed a smart meter on my house a few
years ago. I get an email when the power is out and another
when it comes back on. Not terribly useful when I'm home all
the time, but I've been wishing I could get the same email
when my parents' power goes out, too. We live in the same
city, but different areas.

Maybe a battery-powered Pi that you can also plug in to mains
and it will send the email when it switches to battery.
Probably also want an LTE modem in case the internet goes out
at the same time.

Andy


On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 13:48 Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

If you have your own meter you might get a notification. 
Not sure I'd depend on it.

We have meters with both providers that have our area in
multiple locations. Sometimes we get a heads up, most of
the time we don't (referring to planned events, outages I
get a call many hours after it gets fixed).

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 12:23 PM Steve Jones
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

We dont run our own meters, power is built in to
leases so we dont have account numbers with the power
utilities. Is there a place we can register for
alerts on regional outages?
an example is right now one of our sites that has a
bad UPS thats replacement is on order. It went down a
bit ago and looking on the providers outage map, its
a planned outage for tree trimming. We could have
planned around that.

I have notifications for my home account with ComEd
and its nice, I know when my power goes out and get
the ETA notices as they update them
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Re: [AFMUG] utility outage notifications

[Steve Jones]

Its irritating,comed requires account number to even make a report.

We are working on that runtime, but with APC it's just too much physical
space

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 11:17 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> My philosophy now is that I should have 12+ hours of battery power, and
> enough smarts on the network to know that the AC power is off or on.  Then
> when I start to get alerts I have lots of time to figure out what's going
> on and plenty of time to deal with it.
>
> I wish I had a more direct answer to the original question, but I don't
> think there is one.  As a tenant at a site, I do like to make note of the
> meter number so I can call the elec co and ask if there's a known outage,
> and/or report an outage if I know about it.
>
>
> On 3/11/2021 9:03 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>
> For quick and easy monitoring of lower-priority sites (e.g. relatives'
> homes) I recommend putting a static IP on their CPE and allowing pings, and
> making a free account on a site such as https://uptimerobot.com/pricing/
> . If either the internet or power goes out, you get an email within 5
> minutes. You can also setup additional monitoring to differentiate those
> causes by putting the CPE on a UPS and putting a simple NATed web server
> behind it (not on UPS).
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 7:42 PM Andrew Haninger  wrote:
>
>> My electric company installed a smart meter on my house a few years ago.
>> I get an email when the power is out and another when it comes back on. Not
>> terribly useful when I'm home all the time, but I've been wishing I could
>> get the same email when my parents' power goes out, too. We live in the
>> same city, but different areas.
>>
>> Maybe a battery-powered Pi that you can also plug in to mains and it will
>> send the email when it switches to battery. Probably also want an LTE modem
>> in case the internet goes out at the same time.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 13:48 Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you have your own meter you might get a notification.  Not sure I'd
>>> depend on it.
>>>
>>> We have meters with both providers that have our area in multiple
>>> locations.  Sometimes we get a heads up, most of the time we don't
>>> (referring to planned events, outages I get a call many hours after it gets
>>> fixed).
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 12:23 PM Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 We dont run our own meters, power is built in to leases so we dont have
 account numbers with the power utilities. Is there a place we can register
 for alerts on regional outages?
 an example is right now one of our sites that has a bad UPS thats
 replacement is on order. It went down a bit ago and looking on the
 providers outage map, its a planned outage for tree trimming. We could have
 planned around that.

 I have notifications for my home account with ComEd and its nice, I
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Re: [AFMUG] Wanted: Blank Calix 844 (GigaCenter) Branded Covers

[Josh Luthman]

I have NIB 844G, but I'm not willing to part with simply the cover.

I wasn't aware you could get those branded.

Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:29 AM  wrote:

> Anyone have a pile of blank/unbranded “branded fiber covers” from the
> Calix GigaCenter line?
>
>
>
> I’m looking for 30-100 or so.
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] DC Surge for Medusa ?

[Josh Baird]

I think it's probably fine. We use the Transector 1101-1110 and 1101-1127
over the ones that Cambium sells.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 8:55 AM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

> Hi guys
>
>
>
> I have over 40 of the attached DC Surge Supressor, are they good? Would
> they work with the CBRS Medusa?
>
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