Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper
If you don't get it from a Juniper Authorized reseller or it hasn't been re-certified by Juniper and you ever want to update the software or need support from Juniper, they will make you get it re-certified by Juniper which costs about as much as just purchasing a new unit to start with. And on top of that, you have to do without the actual hardware while that re-certification takes place as you have to send the hardware to Juniper. Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer Total Highspeed Internet Solutions +1 417-851-1107 ext 9002 ch...@totalhighspeed.net [cid:e40b5ce5-e5a6-4983-b489-d5a27056185d]<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> Book time to meet with me<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. From: AF on behalf of Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 8:53 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Used Juniper Is this worth looking at or is it too problematic from a support / update perspective? New Juniper is not in my budget. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue
As for UPS's, we've been using "upgraded" APC UPS's and they tend to die, get bypassed, and never replaced. lol We have some parasitics, some basics, syncboxes, some syncinjectors, some UGPS. A little sprinkle of anything and everything across the network. Consistency is something that we consistently do not have. That would make things too easy. lol. We got to most of them remotely, but some stragglers just didn't seem to want to work and required truck rolls. Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer Total Highspeed Internet Solutions +1 417-851-1107 ext 9002 ch...@totalhighspeed.net [cid:7d5a39f3-dcad-448c-9777-5e0c02bc60b9]<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> Book time to meet with me<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. From: AF on behalf of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Monday, January 1, 2024 6:29 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue We had several sites with the aux port units, and I was successful on all of those sites in opening a tab to the page with the reboot button on each ap and then quickly rebooting them all at once. We found one site where the syncbox was apparently not powered through any device which is remotely rebootable. I'm guessing that some enterprising employee plugged it into something not attached to the UPS. We had a second site where the the remote management is simply inaccessible. Frustratingly, the management device wasn't being monitored so we had no idea it wasn't responding. All of the modern syncboxes (post mid-2020) and the earlier GPS-only units continued to operate. Plus, any connected to a rackinjector or base 3 managed injector didn't have any issues at all. On Mon, Jan 1, 2024, 4:44 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote: Are these Syncpipe Parasitics? Or parasitically powered Syncboxes? Those should be the only ones that require power cycling the AP. I did not have to reboot any APs. It's actually the GPS receiver that needs to be power cycled. Original Message From: "Colin Stanners" Sent: 1/1/2024 12:12:17 AM To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue You can't command the UPSes to reboot the sites? Which UPS models are they? Sorry to hear that. On Mon, Jan 1, 2024, 12:07?a.m. Christopher Tyler mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote: Well that was fun. 8 hours of power cycling AP's. Just rebooting the AP's didn't fix it. Thankfully not every 450 radio seems to have freaked out. Weird that it really only affected some of our 900 Mhz 450i radios. But to top it all off we still have some sites that are on stand-alone syncpipes with no way to reboot them. So we'll have to roll tucks to about 20 sites overnight. Yay. Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer Total Highspeed Internet Solutions +1 417-851-1107 ext 9002 ch...@totalhighspeed.net<mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net> [X]<https://protect-usb.mimecast.com/s/BfMiCrgWqET8g3AC7rFsf?domain=outlook.office.com> Book time to meet with me<https://protect-usb.mimecast.com/s/BfMiCrgWqET8g3AC7rFsf?domain=outlook.office.com> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Forrest Christian (List Account) mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 6:14 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue Plus, if a rackinjector was previously upgraded to a reasonably-recent version (and the default settings weren't changed), it shouldn't have seen the issue at all, as the firmware in the rackinjector defaults to disabling GLONASS. (This is my plea for everyone to upgrade to the latest version as it isn't just this issue that version resolves). On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 4:54?PM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote: Rackinjectors there is a button in the GUI to disable GPS power then turn it back on. Very easy and can be done remotely. Original Message From: "Cassidy B. Larson" Sent: 12/31/2023 5:47:42 PM To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue It’s the GPS you’re using. You’ll want to power cycle the radio, if it’s powering the GPS unit itself, or power cycle the CMM5/rackinjector if it’s providing GPS for your radios. https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/support/
Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue
Well that was fun. 8 hours of power cycling AP's. Just rebooting the AP's didn't fix it. Thankfully not every 450 radio seems to have freaked out. Weird that it really only affected some of our 900 Mhz 450i radios. But to top it all off we still have some sites that are on stand-alone syncpipes with no way to reboot them. So we'll have to roll tucks to about 20 sites overnight. Yay. Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer Total Highspeed Internet Solutions +1 417-851-1107 ext 9002 ch...@totalhighspeed.net [cid:d89547f6-377f-43f3-820b-74d110de0a05]<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> Book time to meet with me<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. From: AF on behalf of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 6:14 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue Plus, if a rackinjector was previously upgraded to a reasonably-recent version (and the default settings weren't changed), it shouldn't have seen the issue at all, as the firmware in the rackinjector defaults to disabling GLONASS. (This is my plea for everyone to upgrade to the latest version as it isn't just this issue that version resolves). On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 4:54 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote: Rackinjectors there is a button in the GUI to disable GPS power then turn it back on. Very easy and can be done remotely. Original Message From: "Cassidy B. Larson" Sent: 12/31/2023 5:47:42 PM To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue It’s the GPS you’re using. You’ll want to power cycle the radio, if it’s powering the GPS unit itself, or power cycle the CMM5/rackinjector if it’s providing GPS for your radios. https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/support/field-service-bulletins/fsb9079/<https://protect-usb.mimecast.com/s/rm1lC8XrzoH6oW7In-HH2?domain=cambiumnetworks.com/> For us, we’re just visiting a few of the sites that have CMM5/rackinjectors impacted GPS units for now and unplugging/plugging the GPS to avoid rebooting.. and mopping up with reboots one by one for those that have their own GPS late tonight. On Dec 31, 2023, at 16:42, Christopher Tyler mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote: A couple of hours ago all of our PMP450i radios started losing sync, reaquire, then lose again. Is anyone else seeing similar issues? All other 450 AP's seem to be working fine. Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer Total Highspeed Internet Solutions +1 417-851-1107 ext 9002 ch...@totalhighspeed.net<mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net> <https://protect-usb.mimecast.com/s/i16mC93vApIkGA5UEXaT-?domain=outlook.office.com> Book time to meet with me<https://protect-usb.mimecast.com/s/i16mC93vApIkGA5UEXaT-?domain=outlook.office.com> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com<https://protect-usb.mimecast.com/s/NcGUC0Ajo2SG1QRU2ZHze?domain=af.afmug.com> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com<https://protect-usb.mimecast.com/s/NcGUC0Ajo2SG1QRU2ZHze?domain=af.afmug.com> -- - Forrest -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue
Thanks for the info. We literally just figured out that rebooting the UGPS works. Now to get to all of them on our network. Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer Total Highspeed Internet Solutions +1 417-851-1107 ext 9002 ch...@totalhighspeed.net [cid:dd8ee3ed-e07c-4f0a-9aa3-6405ebfa68ca]<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> Book time to meet with me<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. From: AF on behalf of castarritt Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 5:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue GLONASS date rollover issue. Reboot. https://packetflux.info/glonassrollover/<https://protect-usb.mimecast.com/s/HZ7MCGwNXYs1v2zfKS-yx?domain=packetflux.info/> On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 5:43 PM Christopher Tyler mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote: A couple of hours ago all of our PMP450i radios started losing sync, reaquire, then lose again. Is anyone else seeing similar issues? All other 450 AP's seem to be working fine. Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer Total Highspeed Internet Solutions +1 417-851-1107 ext 9002 ch...@totalhighspeed.net<mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net> [cid:ii_18cc242e72885de93151]<https://protect-usb.mimecast.com/s/taMLCJEkKYuqNgjfGvVHF?domain=outlook.office.com> Book time to meet with me<https://protect-usb.mimecast.com/s/taMLCJEkKYuqNgjfGvVHF?domain=outlook.office.com> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com<https://protect-usb.mimecast.com/s/dcPuCKAl7YS2VZRC3ezjv?domain=af.afmug.com> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue
A couple of hours ago all of our PMP450i radios started losing sync, reaquire, then lose again. Is anyone else seeing similar issues? All other 450 AP's seem to be working fine. Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer Total Highspeed Internet Solutions +1 417-851-1107 ext 9002 ch...@totalhighspeed.net [cid:19787118-f240-4575-918d-4b61cb5ae683]<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> Book time to meet with me<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question
What routers are you using? Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer Total Highspeed Internet Solutions +1 417-851-1107 ext 9002 ch...@totalhighspeed.net [cid:d5754205-542b-4ad8-9fa2-09231e802d33]<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> Book time to meet with me<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. From: AF on behalf of Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:47 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] BGP Question We have two circuits coming into our NOC. We peer with 3 different providers on each circuit. If a circuit fails, BGP will do it's magic and traffic will start flowing though the surviving circuit. However, we seemed to get about 5 - 10 minutes of unstable Internet while this is happening. Is this normal? If not, what can I do to speed up the process? Is it a function of my routers having to rebuild routes? Will new faster routers help? Is it a function of timers? Keep-Alive is 30s and hold is at 90s. Should I investigate BFD? How fast could I expect to get this fail-over to work under best conditions? Thanks, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Communications www.Myakka.com<http://www.Myakka.com> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Tik 1072 watchdog reboot bug
We had this same issue. Replacing it with a CCR2216 didn't fix the problem. We ended up going to Juniper MX204's and A10 CGNAT boxes for NAT. Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer Total Highspeed Internet Solutions +1 417-851-1107 ext 9002 ch...@totalhighspeed.net [cid:29915cb0-80fd-4b95-9b62-b3dc6976535b]<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> Book time to meet with me<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/1f29ddb141b647f08b33d9cf03835...@totalhighspeed.net?anonymous=signature> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. From: AF on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2023 11:41 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tik 1072 watchdog reboot bug Then why did mine have a kernel panic when there is no connection tracking? Why is it solved with significantly more traffic and only changing the firewall? On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 11:46 AM Trey Scarborough mailto:t...@3dsc.co>> wrote: Its a known hardware issue with connection tracking enabled and hardware offload. It has a hard limit to the number of connections it supports that is pretty low. Its high enough you won't notice till you get significant traffic, but low enough it is a common issue. The fix is to turn off connection tracking I know this isn't the best solution, but its the only one that works. This and the hardware availability of the processor are the reason they are discontinued. The good news is that moving over to the newer generation seems to resolve this, but comes with a handful of version 7 quirks. On 4/11/2023 5:55 PM, Alex Kessler wrote: Been experiencing this bug for years while running NAT and connection tracking. Rebooting every few months while running v6 latest. Does v7 have any known fixes to resolve these watchdog reboots? --- From: "Colin Stanners" < cstanners at gmail.com<http://gmail.com> > To: "af" < af at af.afmug.com<http://af.afmug.com> > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 12:59:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations This last year, I've seen a MikroTik CCR1072 switch from long being rock-solid to now having occasional random reboots (from watchdog) or 100% CPU usage, which strangles the BGP process. In the latter case, tools->profile would show the firewall taking 100% of CPU, even after temporarily disabling all firewall filter and NAT rules and connection tracking. Not fun. MT tech support did not seem super helpful or interested, mostly recommending to disable watchdog (unacceptable on a production router) or to upgrade firmware (without specifying the suspected cause of the problem or nature of the fix). Tried 1 update, that didn't seem to help, have now tried another... On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 11:38 PM Steven Kenney < steve at wavedirect.org<http://wavedirect.org> > wrote: MIkrotik has been rock solid for me for years. Until this year and the 1072's. Random reboots set off by watchdog timer on all of my 1072's. Some more than others. Threads in the forum all discuss the same problem exactly. Its a connection tracking issue.. however I need connection tracking on one particular router. I've adjusted everything I could. Firmware and board firmware all up to date etc. Happens randomly with low levels of traffic, high levels of traffic, sometimes a couple times a day, sometimes weeks. No DDOS evidence at all from upstream routers. Configs checked and rechecked by third party experts. I graph everything about the Mikrotik and there are no clues or anything abnormal happening before the crash. Plenty of memory, disk space, CPU etc. Replaces all the trannies, power cables and such. Not running BGP only OSPF on the one that is giving me the most trouble. Even have a serial console cable plugged into them to my opengear and set it to log pretty much everything to console including the kernel and nothing. A hard freeze. Then there is Mikrotik support... I've never needed their support before until now. So I put a ticket in and the shitty attitude I'm getting from them seems like they KNOW there is something wrong with the hardware and they are intentionally not being helpful. It is pretty clear to see with all the people reporting this issue that there IS an issue. If this is any indication of how things are going to go with Mikrotik on the newer hardware going forware I think its time to jump to an enterprise level system. Juniper most likely. Shame because they are just about keeping up with the demands with their hardware. Getting closer to 100Gbps etc and ROS7 ... but at their current pace I think we've outgrew them.
Re: [AFMUG] Business password managers
We use keepassxc and just put the password file into Dropbox and share that with the individual accounts that need it. We have the Dropbox business plan so we can delete the files from remote devices if we need to revoke access to the file. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. - Original Message - > From: "Nate Burke" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 4:38:52 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] Business password managers > I'm bringing on some more employees, so some sort of password manager > would be nice to have, other than my personal one, and all the passwords > I keep up in the old noggin. This might be like opening up a apple/PC > debate, but just curious what others are using. > > I've looked at Dashlane, 1password, and bitwarden. And there's always > Keepass, but I think that requires access to the central password file > at all times, might be hard to share between users. > > It would be nice to be able to only share certain passwords with certain > users. Like Tech 1 can have Radios and Mikrotiks, but not VMWare. > Tech2 has Mikrotik and Vmware, but not radios. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
Love that movie. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. - Original Message - > From: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Cc: "Chuck McCown" > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 6:09:31 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz > All you need to know: https://youtu.be/egUdn7skq4k > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Prince > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 4:45 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz > > I can say that I saw and heard things there that I should not talk about. > > > bp > > > On 1/16/2023 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> Pretty sure this whole are Bill and Robert are talking about can be called >> Area 51. I know that is not technically correct as they have had other >> area numbers out there but most folks would just say Area 51. I was >> warned to never stray into their airspace, but I think I got a clearance >> to fly through it once. We had tactical call signs assigned by the >> military and we got to fly through other R areas before. Telephone One >> was a M-20 and Telephone Two was a C-150. Once they cleared me through at >> 150 agl or below. I accepted the clearance. That was a fun afternoon. I >> think they were bluffing. >> >> -Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs >> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 2:20 PM >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz >> >> Isn't that the same flight that stops at area 51? >> >> On 1/16/23 12:11, Bill Prince wrote: >>> When I was there, they had a daily "shuttle" that flew a couple dozen >>> employees between there are Las Vegas. The gig I was on got me there on a >>> weekly shuttle between Livermore CA and the private airport on site. >>> Because I finished my part of the gig 4 days early, I was looking at no >>> way to get back to the Bay Area for (maybe) 4 days until the weekly >>> shuttle came around again. >>> >>> There were zero commercial flights out of Tonopah, and their little >>> airport, so I asked the proprietor at the motel if I could rent a car at >>> the Tonopah airport. She replied that yes, I could rent a car at the >>> airport. I said "Great! I want to rent a one-way to the Bay Area." She >>> answered back, "Oh Joe (don't remember the real name) wouldn't let you do >>> that with his car." Whoops. >>> >>> In the end, one of the seats on the daily shuttle became "available", and >>> I got out of there and to Las Vegas where I hopped a flight from there to >>> SFO. >>> >>> >>> bp >>> >>> >>> On 1/16/2023 11:46 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: >>>> Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which >>>> is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: >>>>> The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, >>>>> which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little >>>>> water". That was an understatement. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >>>>>> I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think >>>>>> on the edge of the restricted area. >>>>>> I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. >>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince >>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM >>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central >>>>>> Office.kmz >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and >>>>>> escort) to be there. >>>>>> >>>>>> bp >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >>>>>>> Looks like a place to get prob
Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site
We opted for 24v out as well and went with Meanwell RSD-200C-24. Input voltage range is 33.6v to 62.4v, it's isolated as well, and has reverse polarity protection. So if the wires are backward it just doesn't output anything instead of letting out the magic smoke, which is nice. I think we paid about $117/ea for them. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. - Original Message - > From: "Trey Scarborough" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 2:02:16 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site > I use the Tycon TP-VRHP-4824 its isolated and I found more mikrotiks > accept 24v than anything else. > > Also they make a PW48V-12V85W powersupply for most the rack mount tiks. > > On 5/2/2022 4:37 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote: >> Thanks for all the information. We've opted to get some Mwanwell DC-DC >> converters just to be on the safe side. >> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue
Confirmed that firewall is not the issue, disabled the rules, no change. I don't know why, but I didn't even think of torch/packet capture, brain-fart I guess. If the downgrade doesn't fix it I'll look at that next. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. - Original Message - > From: "castarritt" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 3:51:18 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue > If it's not something obvious with routing or firewall, my next step would be > to > look at torch and/or packet captures to narrow it down. > > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 3:34 PM < [ mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com | > dmmoff...@gmail.com ] > wrote: > > > Fair enough, but traffic through the router would be forward chain. Input > chain > only affects traffic destined for the router itself. > I agree it's an easy thing to check. > > -Original Message- > From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > On > Behalf Of Larry Smith > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2022 4:17 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | > af@af.afmug.com ] > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue > > > Yes, but it ends with an INPUT "drop all" entry. > Agree it does not "appear" to be anything in the firewall, but only takes a > few > seconds to test and prove one way or the other. > > -- > Larry Smith > [ mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net | lesm...@ecsis.net ] > > On Wed May 4 2022 14:58, Christopher Tyler wrote: >> That is the export of the entire firewall on that router, there are no >> forward, nat or mangle rules, therefore there shouldn't be anything >> keeping the data from getting to/from anything, let alone blocking all >> but one IP address in the IP range. >> >> It's a /29 block, ip is x.x.x.x/29 on the router interface to the >> switch, >> /29 in OSPF network as well. >> >> This is why I'm completely stumped, everything looks fine. We're going >> to roll that router back tonight to 7.1.5 the "long term" version to >> see if that does anything. >> >> -- >> Christopher Tyler >> Senior Network Engineer >> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE >> >> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions >> 1091 W. Kathryn Street >> Nixa, MO 65714 >> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 >> [ http://www.totalhighspeed.com/ | www.totalhighspeed.com ] >> >> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. >> Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de >> oportunidades. >> >> - Original Message - >> >> > From: "Josh Luthman" < [ mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com | >> > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ] > >> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | >> > af@af.afmug.com ] > >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 11:39:22 AM >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue >> > >> > Input/output aren't relevant for forward traffic. >> > >> > Are your subnets right everywhere? >> > >> > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:20 PM Christopher Tyler < [ >> > mailto: [ mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] | [ >> > mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] ] > wrote: >> > >> > >> > Very minimal, really just basic input rules, nothing that would >> > block the IP addresses from getting through. No NAT or Mangle rules on this >> > router. >> > >> > /ip firewall filter >> > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ESTABLISHED/RELATED" \ >> > connection-state=established,related >> > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT OSPF" protocol=ospf >> > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ICMP (ping)" >> > protocol=icmp add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT SNMP" >> > dst-port=160-161 protocol=\ udp add action=accept chain=input >> > comment="ACCEPT DHCP" dst-port=67 protocol=udp add action=accept >> > chain=input comment="Allow MTIK Bandwidth Test" dst-port=\ 2000-3000 >> > protocol=tcp add action=accept chain=input comment="Allow MTIK >> > Bandwidth Test" >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue
When I connected my laptop, I had internet, which is also weird since it was unreachable by ping. But yes I statically assigned the IP to the laptop with the correct IP, gateway and subnet. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. - Original Message - > From: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Cc: "David Sovereen" > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 3:04:42 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue > Does the server without connectivity have a working default gateway? > > Dave > >> On May 4, 2022, at 4:00 PM, Christopher Tyler >> wrote: >> >> Rebooted both the router and the switch, no joy, issue persists. >> >> -- >> Christopher Tyler >> Senior Network Engineer >> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE >> >> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions >> 1091 W. Kathryn Street >> Nixa, MO 65714 >> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 >> www.totalhighspeed.com >> >> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. >> Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: "Adam Moffett" >>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 2:50:13 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue >> >>> If this is a Mikrotik switch, reboot it before you waste a lot of time. >>> >>> I've seen weird stuff too many times. I had a CRS317 the other day where >>> we >>> got 98% packet loss to one specific host. Watching the switch hosts table >>> it >>> seemed like it kept changing it's mind as to which interface that MAC >>> address >>> was on. Reboot cleared it right up. >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: AF On Behalf Of Larry Smith >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2022 12:50 PM >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue >>> >>> >>> To verify that, drop the firewall and then test again. >>> If its firewall related it will start working. >>> >>> -- >>> Larry Smith >>> lesm...@ecsis.net >>> >>> On Wed May 4 2022 11:18, Christopher Tyler wrote: >>>> Very minimal, really just basic input rules, nothing that would block >>>> the IP addresses from getting through. No NAT or Mangle rules on this >>>> router. >>>> >>>> /ip firewall filter >>>> add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ESTABLISHED/RELATED" \ >>>>connection-state=established,related >>>> add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT OSPF" protocol=ospf add >>>> action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ICMP (ping)" protocol=icmp >>>> add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT SNMP" dst-port=160-161 >>>> protocol=\ udp add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT DHCP" >>>> dst-port=67 protocol=udp add action=accept chain=input comment="Allow >>>> MTIK Bandwidth Test" dst-port=\ 2000-3000 protocol=tcp add >>>> action=accept chain=input comment="Allow MTIK Bandwidth Test" >>>> dst-port=\ 2000-3000 protocol=udp >>>> add action=accept chain=input dst-port=5678 protocol=tcp add >>>> action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT THIS Mgmt" src-address-list=\ >>>>THIS_ADMIN >>>> add action=accept chain=output comment="ACCEPT ALL OUTBOUND" >>>> add action=drop chain=input comment="DROP ALL OTHER INPUT" >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Christopher Tyler >>>> Senior Network Engineer >>>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE >>>> >>>> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions >>>> 1091 W. Kathryn Street >>>> Nixa, MO 65714 >>>> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 >>>> www.totalhighspeed.com >>>> >>>> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. >>>> Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de >>>> oportunidades. >>>> >>>> - O
Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue
Yup, x.x.x.x/29 in the same range. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 3:01:47 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue >>It's a /29 block, ip is x.x.x.x/29 on the router interface to the switch, /29 >>in >>OSPF network as well. > > And the servers/laptop? > > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 4:00 PM Christopher Tyler < [ > mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] > wrote: > > > That is the export of the entire firewall on that router, there are no > forward, > nat or mangle rules, therefore there shouldn't be anything keeping the data > from getting to/from anything, let alone blocking all but one IP address in > the > IP range. > > It's a /29 block, ip is x.x.x.x/29 on the router interface to the switch, /29 > in > OSPF network as well. > > This is why I'm completely stumped, everything looks fine. We're going to roll > that router back tonight to 7.1.5 the "long term" version to see if that does > anything. > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > [ http://www.totalhighspeed.com/ | www.totalhighspeed.com ] > > This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. > Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. > > - Original Message - >> From: "Josh Luthman" < [ mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com | >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ] > >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | >> af@af.afmug.com ] > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 11:39:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue > >> Input/output aren't relevant for forward traffic. >> >> Are your subnets right everywhere? >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:20 PM Christopher Tyler < [ >> mailto: [ mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] | [ >> mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] ] > wrote: >> >> >> Very minimal, really just basic input rules, nothing that would block the IP >> addresses from getting through. No NAT or Mangle rules on this router. >> >> /ip firewall filter >> add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ESTABLISHED/RELATED" \ >> connection-state=established,related >> add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT OSPF" protocol=ospf >> add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ICMP (ping)" protocol=icmp >> add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT SNMP" dst-port=160-161 >> protocol=\ >> udp >> add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT DHCP" dst-port=67 protocol=udp >> add action=accept chain=input comment="Allow MTIK Bandwidth Test" dst-port=\ >> 2000-3000 protocol=tcp >> add action=accept chain=input comment="Allow MTIK Bandwidth Test" dst-port=\ >> 2000-3000 protocol=udp >> add action=accept chain=input dst-port=5678 protocol=tcp >> add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT THIS Mgmt" src-address-list=\ >> THIS_ADMIN >> add action=accept chain=output comment="ACCEPT ALL OUTBOUND" >> add action=drop chain=input comment="DROP ALL OTHER INPUT" >> >> >> -- >> Christopher Tyler >> Senior Network Engineer >> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE >> >> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions >> 1091 W. Kathryn Street >> Nixa, MO 65714 >> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 >> [ [ http://www.totalhighspeed.com/ | http://www.totalhighspeed.com/ ] | [ >> http://www.totalhighspeed.com/ | www.totalhighspeed.com ] ] >> >> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. >> Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: "Josh Luthman" < [ mailto: [ mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com | >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ] | >>> [ mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com | j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ] ] > >>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [ mailto: [ mailto:af@af.a
Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue
Rebooted both the router and the switch, no joy, issue persists. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. - Original Message - > From: "Adam Moffett" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 2:50:13 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue > If this is a Mikrotik switch, reboot it before you waste a lot of time. > > I've seen weird stuff too many times. I had a CRS317 the other day where we > got 98% packet loss to one specific host. Watching the switch hosts table it > seemed like it kept changing it's mind as to which interface that MAC address > was on. Reboot cleared it right up. > > -Adam > > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Larry Smith > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2022 12:50 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue > > > To verify that, drop the firewall and then test again. > If its firewall related it will start working. > > -- > Larry Smith > lesm...@ecsis.net > > On Wed May 4 2022 11:18, Christopher Tyler wrote: >> Very minimal, really just basic input rules, nothing that would block >> the IP addresses from getting through. No NAT or Mangle rules on this router. >> >> /ip firewall filter >> add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ESTABLISHED/RELATED" \ >> connection-state=established,related >> add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT OSPF" protocol=ospf add >> action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ICMP (ping)" protocol=icmp >> add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT SNMP" dst-port=160-161 >> protocol=\ udp add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT DHCP" >> dst-port=67 protocol=udp add action=accept chain=input comment="Allow >> MTIK Bandwidth Test" dst-port=\ 2000-3000 protocol=tcp add >> action=accept chain=input comment="Allow MTIK Bandwidth Test" >> dst-port=\ 2000-3000 protocol=udp >> add action=accept chain=input dst-port=5678 protocol=tcp add >> action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT THIS Mgmt" src-address-list=\ >> THIS_ADMIN >> add action=accept chain=output comment="ACCEPT ALL OUTBOUND" >> add action=drop chain=input comment="DROP ALL OTHER INPUT" >> >> >> -- >> Christopher Tyler >> Senior Network Engineer >> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE >> >> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions >> 1091 W. Kathryn Street >> Nixa, MO 65714 >> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 >> www.totalhighspeed.com >> >> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. >> Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de >> oportunidades. >> >> - Original Message - >> >> > From: "Josh Luthman" >> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 11:12:55 AM >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue >> > >> > Firewall filter rules? >> > >> > Double check the gateway and subnet on the server. >> > >> > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 11:17 AM Christopher Tyler < [ >> > mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] > wrote: >> > >> > >> > We have one of the new Mikrotik CCR2216-1G-12XS-2XQ routers running >> > RouterOS 7.2.1 with a Mikrotik switch (running 6.44.3) hanging off of it. >> > I have two servers on that switch both in the the same public IP >> > block. I can ping both servers from the router, and they can ping >> > each other. One server is globally reachable and the other is not >> > reachable other than from the router or switch itself. I plugged in >> > my laptop and assigned it an IP in that same range and cannot reach >> > it extrenally either. The router is using OSPF and I can see the >> > route for that IP block from both sides of the router, but >> > traceroutes/pings to anything other than the server that is working >> > stop at the router. No vlans or special configuration between the >> > router and the switch, just basic IP, all ports on the switch are >> > bridged. Forwarded ports (dstnat) don't appear to work from the router >> > either. >> > >> > I'm stumped, so I figured I would ask if anyone el
Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue
That is the export of the entire firewall on that router, there are no forward, nat or mangle rules, therefore there shouldn't be anything keeping the data from getting to/from anything, let alone blocking all but one IP address in the IP range. It's a /29 block, ip is x.x.x.x/29 on the router interface to the switch, /29 in OSPF network as well. This is why I'm completely stumped, everything looks fine. We're going to roll that router back tonight to 7.1.5 the "long term" version to see if that does anything. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 11:39:22 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue > Input/output aren't relevant for forward traffic. > > Are your subnets right everywhere? > > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:20 PM Christopher Tyler < [ > mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] > wrote: > > > Very minimal, really just basic input rules, nothing that would block the IP > addresses from getting through. No NAT or Mangle rules on this router. > > /ip firewall filter > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ESTABLISHED/RELATED" \ > connection-state=established,related > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT OSPF" protocol=ospf > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ICMP (ping)" protocol=icmp > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT SNMP" dst-port=160-161 > protocol=\ > udp > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT DHCP" dst-port=67 protocol=udp > add action=accept chain=input comment="Allow MTIK Bandwidth Test" dst-port=\ > 2000-3000 protocol=tcp > add action=accept chain=input comment="Allow MTIK Bandwidth Test" dst-port=\ > 2000-3000 protocol=udp > add action=accept chain=input dst-port=5678 protocol=tcp > add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT THIS Mgmt" src-address-list=\ > THIS_ADMIN > add action=accept chain=output comment="ACCEPT ALL OUTBOUND" > add action=drop chain=input comment="DROP ALL OTHER INPUT" > > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > [ http://www.totalhighspeed.com/ | www.totalhighspeed.com ] > > This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. > Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. > > - Original Message - >> From: "Josh Luthman" < [ mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com | >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ] > >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | >> af@af.afmug.com ] > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 11:12:55 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue > >> Firewall filter rules? >> >> Double check the gateway and subnet on the server. >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 11:17 AM Christopher Tyler < [ >> mailto: [ mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] | [ >> mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] ] > wrote: >> >> >> We have one of the new Mikrotik CCR2216-1G-12XS-2XQ routers running RouterOS >> 7.2.1 with a Mikrotik switch (running 6.44.3) hanging off of it. I have two >> servers on that switch both in the the same public IP block. I can ping both >> servers from the router, and they can ping each other. One server is globally >> reachable and the other is not reachable other than from the router or switch >> itself. I plugged in my laptop and assigned it an IP in that same range and >> cannot reach it extrenally either. The router is using OSPF and I can see the >> route for that IP block from both sides of the router, but traceroutes/pings >> to >> anything other than the server that is working stop at the router. No vlans >> or >> special configuration between the router and the switch, just basic IP, all >> ports on the switch are bridged. Forwarded ports (dstnat) don't appear to >> work >> from the router either. >> >> I'm stumped, so I figured I would ask if anyone else has seen anything like >> this >> and have a solution, or am I looking at a possible RouterOS 7 issue
Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue
Very minimal, really just basic input rules, nothing that would block the IP addresses from getting through. No NAT or Mangle rules on this router. /ip firewall filter add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ESTABLISHED/RELATED" \ connection-state=established,related add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT OSPF" protocol=ospf add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT ICMP (ping)" protocol=icmp add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT SNMP" dst-port=160-161 protocol=\ udp add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT DHCP" dst-port=67 protocol=udp add action=accept chain=input comment="Allow MTIK Bandwidth Test" dst-port=\ 2000-3000 protocol=tcp add action=accept chain=input comment="Allow MTIK Bandwidth Test" dst-port=\ 2000-3000 protocol=udp add action=accept chain=input dst-port=5678 protocol=tcp add action=accept chain=input comment="ACCEPT THIS Mgmt" src-address-list=\ THIS_ADMIN add action=accept chain=output comment="ACCEPT ALL OUTBOUND" add action=drop chain=input comment="DROP ALL OTHER INPUT" -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 11:12:55 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird IP issue > Firewall filter rules? > > Double check the gateway and subnet on the server. > > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 11:17 AM Christopher Tyler < [ > mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] > wrote: > > > We have one of the new Mikrotik CCR2216-1G-12XS-2XQ routers running RouterOS > 7.2.1 with a Mikrotik switch (running 6.44.3) hanging off of it. I have two > servers on that switch both in the the same public IP block. I can ping both > servers from the router, and they can ping each other. One server is globally > reachable and the other is not reachable other than from the router or switch > itself. I plugged in my laptop and assigned it an IP in that same range and > cannot reach it extrenally either. The router is using OSPF and I can see the > route for that IP block from both sides of the router, but traceroutes/pings > to > anything other than the server that is working stop at the router. No vlans or > special configuration between the router and the switch, just basic IP, all > ports on the switch are bridged. Forwarded ports (dstnat) don't appear to work > from the router either. > > I'm stumped, so I figured I would ask if anyone else has seen anything like > this > and have a solution, or am I looking at a possible RouterOS 7 issue? > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > [ http://www.totalhighspeed.com/ | www.totalhighspeed.com ] > > This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. > Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. > > -- > AF mailing list > [ mailto:AF@af.afmug.com | AF@af.afmug.com ] > [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] Weird IP issue
We have one of the new Mikrotik CCR2216-1G-12XS-2XQ routers running RouterOS 7.2.1 with a Mikrotik switch (running 6.44.3) hanging off of it. I have two servers on that switch both in the the same public IP block. I can ping both servers from the router, and they can ping each other. One server is globally reachable and the other is not reachable other than from the router or switch itself. I plugged in my laptop and assigned it an IP in that same range and cannot reach it extrenally either. The router is using OSPF and I can see the route for that IP block from both sides of the router, but traceroutes/pings to anything other than the server that is working stop at the router. No vlans or special configuration between the router and the switch, just basic IP, all ports on the switch are bridged. Forwarded ports (dstnat) don't appear to work from the router either. I'm stumped, so I figured I would ask if anyone else has seen anything like this and have a solution, or am I looking at a possible RouterOS 7 issue? -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site
Thanks for all the information. We've opted to get some Mwanwell DC-DC converters just to be on the safe side. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. - Original Message - > From: "TJ Trout" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 4:15:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site > many devices now are isolated, you can check the router case to each terminal > +/- on the input and see if any are referenced, if not it will work on -48 or > +48. For example the ccr1072 and now ccr2116,2216, etc have a '-48v' power > supply, but it's actually isolated and worked on either. > > 48v is 48v, as chuck said the only difference is which side +/- is grounded to > the rack, tower, etc > > > > On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 1:32 PM < [ mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com | > dmmoff...@gmail.com ] > wrote: > > > > > > I keep Meanwell RSD-150C-48 in stock. I’d strongly suggest the RSD rather than > the SD model. SD is slightly cheaper, but RSD handles faults better. > > > > The important part is C-48, that’s 48 in and 48 out. > > 150 is max wattage. > > > > The dimensions are such that you can bolt it to the back of a 1U blank panel > and > it will occupy 1RU without a shelf. > > > > > > > From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > On > Behalf Of castarritt > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2022 2:59 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | > af@af.afmug.com ] > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site > > > > > > I asked this list the same thing a while back and the answer was Meanwell > RSD-500C-48. You can probably get away with a lower power rating than the 500 > watt I chose if you are only powering a 'tik and not a pile of Cambium radios > like I was. > > > > > > On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 1:48 PM Christopher Tyler < [ > mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] > wrote: > > > > > Need some help from the smarter than me electrical engineers here on the > list... > > What is the best way to power a Mikrotik router that takes +18-56vdc from > -48vdc > source? Providing part numbers or model numbers would be greatly appreciated. > > We tried the redneck engineering approach of just reversing the polarity and > it > popped the fuse, nice little light show, but ultimately unproductive. > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > [ http://www.totalhighspeed.com/ | www.totalhighspeed.com ] > > This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. > Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. > > -- > AF mailing list > [ mailto:AF@af.afmug.com | AF@af.afmug.com ] > [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] > -- > AF mailing list > [ mailto:AF@af.afmug.com | AF@af.afmug.com ] > [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site
Nevermind, I see that there is a + ad - and a GND. Nice. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. - Original Message - > From: "Chris Tyler" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 2:08:21 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site > So when I hook that up to -48vdc, do I just give it -48 or do the leads need > to > be reversed? > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > www.totalhighspeed.com > > This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. > Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. > > - Original Message - >> From: "castarritt" >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 1:58:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site > >> I asked this list the same thing a while back and the answer was Meanwell >> RSD-500C-48. You can probably get away with a lower power rating than the 500 >> watt I chose if you are only powering a 'tik and not a pile of Cambium radios >> like I was. >> >> On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 1:48 PM Christopher Tyler < [ >> mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] > wrote: >> >> >> Need some help from the smarter than me electrical engineers here on the >> list... >> >> What is the best way to power a Mikrotik router that takes +18-56vdc from >> -48vdc >> source? Providing part numbers or model numbers would be greatly appreciated. >> >> We tried the redneck engineering approach of just reversing the polarity and >> it >> popped the fuse, nice little light show, but ultimately unproductive. >> >> -- >> Christopher Tyler >> Senior Network Engineer >> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE >> >> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions >> 1091 W. Kathryn Street >> Nixa, MO 65714 >> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 >> [ http://www.totalhighspeed.com/ | www.totalhighspeed.com ] >> >> This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. >> Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [ mailto:AF@af.afmug.com | AF@af.afmug.com ] >> [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site
So when I hook that up to -48vdc, do I just give it -48 or do the leads need to be reversed? -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. - Original Message - > From: "castarritt" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 1:58:47 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48vdc site > I asked this list the same thing a while back and the answer was Meanwell > RSD-500C-48. You can probably get away with a lower power rating than the 500 > watt I chose if you are only powering a 'tik and not a pile of Cambium radios > like I was. > > On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 1:48 PM Christopher Tyler < [ > mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | ch...@totalhighspeed.net ] > wrote: > > > Need some help from the smarter than me electrical engineers here on the > list... > > What is the best way to power a Mikrotik router that takes +18-56vdc from > -48vdc > source? Providing part numbers or model numbers would be greatly appreciated. > > We tried the redneck engineering approach of just reversing the polarity and > it > popped the fuse, nice little light show, but ultimately unproductive. > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > [ http://www.totalhighspeed.com/ | www.totalhighspeed.com ] > > This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. > Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. > > -- > AF mailing list > [ mailto:AF@af.afmug.com | AF@af.afmug.com ] > [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] -48vdc site
Need some help from the smarter than me electrical engineers here on the list... What is the best way to power a Mikrotik router that takes +18-56vdc from -48vdc source? Providing part numbers or model numbers would be greatly appreciated. We tried the redneck engineering approach of just reversing the polarity and it popped the fuse, nice little light show, but ultimately unproductive. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] big COD download Nov. 13
There are a LOT of games coming out in November as well as the new consoles. Expect to see a lot of gaming-related traffic soon. Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer Total Highspeed Internet Solutions +1 417-851-1107 ext 9001 ch...@totalhighspeed.net From: AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:47 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] big COD download Nov. 13 https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/4/21549814/call-of-duty-cod-black-ops-cold-war-file-size-ps5-xbox-series-x -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google
Pretty sure that we traced it back to DiviNetworks. They are supposed to use spare bandwidth to pseudonymously originate web requests. They use our IP addresses and in theory they are supposed to do this without disturbing our customers and only access web sites whose owners have contracted them to do so, generally to test connectivity. We are currently in communication with them to get it fixed. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "Chris Tyler" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 12:23:22 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > No we are not pre-defining blocks at this time, I will look at implementing > that, thank you. > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > www.totalhighspeed.com > > - Original Message - >> From: "afmug" >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 12:12:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > >> Are you pre-defining blocks, though? >> >> Inside IPOutside IP/Port range >> 100.64.1.1 2.2.2.2:2000-2099 >> 100.64.1.2 2.2.2.2:2100-2199 >> 100.64.1.3 2.2.2.2:2200-2299 >> I'd do more than 100 ports, but table is just meant to express the concept. >> >> Then you ALWAYS know IP:port to internal IP matching, without having to track >> anything. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> [ http://www.ics-il.com/ | Intelligent Computing Solutions ] >> [ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL ] [ >> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb ] [ >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions ] [ >> https://twitter.com/ICSIL ] >> [ http://www.midwest-ix.com/ | Midwest Internet Exchange ] >> [ https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix ] [ >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange ] [ >> https://twitter.com/mdwestix ] >> [ http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ | The Brothers WISP ] >> [ https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp ] [ >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg ] >> >> From: "Christopher Tyler" >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 12:07:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google >> >> That is how we are doing it for the most part. We still have a lot of old >> 172.16.0.0/12 addresses that need to be converted to 100.64.0.0/10. We have >> been and still are steadily working towards that goal though. >> >> -- >> Christopher Tyler >> Senior Network Engineer >> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE >> >> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions >> 1091 W. Kathryn Street >> Nixa, MO 65714 >> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 >> www.totalhighspeed.com >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: "afmug" >>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 12:00:18 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google >> >>> If you're NATing multiple customers behind a single IP address, do it this >>> way: >>> >>> >>> [ >>> https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Firewall/NAT#Carrier-Grade_NAT_.28CGNAT.29_or_NAT444 >>> | >>> https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Firewall/NAT#Carrier-Grade_NAT_.28CGNAT.29_or_NAT444 >>> ] >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> [ http://www.ics-il.com/ | Intelligent Computing Solutions ] >>> [ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL ] [ >>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb ] [ >>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions ] [ >>> https://twitter.com/ICSIL ] >>> [ http://www.midwest-ix.com/ | Midwest Internet Exchange ] >>> [ https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix ] [ >>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange ] [ >>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix ] >>> [ http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ | The Brothers WISP ] >>> [ https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp ] [ >>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg ] >>> >>> From: "Christopher Tyler" >>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google
No we are not pre-defining blocks at this time, I will look at implementing that, thank you. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "afmug" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 12:12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > Are you pre-defining blocks, though? > > Inside IP Outside IP/Port range > 100.64.1.12.2.2.2:2000-2099 > 100.64.1.22.2.2.2:2100-2199 > 100.64.1.32.2.2.2:2200-2299 > I'd do more than 100 ports, but table is just meant to express the concept. > > Then you ALWAYS know IP:port to internal IP matching, without having to track > anything. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > [ http://www.ics-il.com/ | Intelligent Computing Solutions ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL ] [ > https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb ] [ > https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions ] [ > https://twitter.com/ICSIL ] > [ http://www.midwest-ix.com/ | Midwest Internet Exchange ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix ] [ > https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange ] [ > https://twitter.com/mdwestix ] > [ http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ | The Brothers WISP ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp ] [ > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg ] > > From: "Christopher Tyler" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 12:07:55 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > > That is how we are doing it for the most part. We still have a lot of old > 172.16.0.0/12 addresses that need to be converted to 100.64.0.0/10. We have > been and still are steadily working towards that goal though. > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > www.totalhighspeed.com > > - Original Message - >> From: "afmug" >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 12:00:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > >> If you're NATing multiple customers behind a single IP address, do it this >> way: >> >> >> [ >> https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Firewall/NAT#Carrier-Grade_NAT_.28CGNAT.29_or_NAT444 >> | >> https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Firewall/NAT#Carrier-Grade_NAT_.28CGNAT.29_or_NAT444 >> ] >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> [ http://www.ics-il.com/ | Intelligent Computing Solutions ] >> [ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL ] [ >> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb ] [ >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions ] [ >> https://twitter.com/ICSIL ] >> [ http://www.midwest-ix.com/ | Midwest Internet Exchange ] >> [ https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix ] [ >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange ] [ >> https://twitter.com/mdwestix ] >> [ http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ | The Brothers WISP ] >> [ https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp ] [ >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg ] >> >> From: "Christopher Tyler" >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 11:46:07 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google >> >> Yes, NAT is in play here, I just now increased the NAT pool to 128 addresses >> based on TJ's theory that the NAT pool might be too small. >> >> The source IP's seem to be spoofed or proxied somehow as the first IP >> address in >> the list from Google is our ARIN /20 Network address (x.x.0.0) and I find it >> hard to believe that our gateway router is scraping Google for content. >> >> -- >> Christopher Tyler >> Senior Network Engineer >> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE >> >> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions >> 1091 W. Kathryn Street >> Nixa, MO 65714 >> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 >> www.totalhighspeed.com >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: "afmug" >>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 11:37:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google >> >>> You have the source IP, port, and time. What more do you need to determine >>> who's >>> doin
Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google
It is a Mikrotik router. Nothing appears to be out of the ordinary. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "Ken Hohhof" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 11:53:21 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > Normally you can't spoof source addresses for TCP connections, the return > traffic would go to the real IP, unless there's some exotic BCP hijack > involved. > > Are you sure that your router has not been compromised and a proxy server > installed? Like SOCKS if it's a Mikrotik? > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 11:46 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > > Yes, NAT is in play here, I just now increased the NAT pool to 128 addresses > based on TJ's theory that the NAT pool might be too small. > > The source IP's seem to be spoofed or proxied somehow as the first IP > address in the list from Google is our ARIN /20 Network address (x.x.0.0) > and I find it hard to believe that our gateway router is scraping Google for > content. > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > www.totalhighspeed.com > > - Original Message - >> From: "afmug" >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 11:37:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > >> You have the source IP, port, and time. What more do you need to >> determine who's doing it? >> >> I'm assuming you're NATing customers at the router in question. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> [ http://www.ics-il.com/ | Intelligent Computing Solutions ] [ >> https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL ] [ >> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb ] [ >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions ] [ >> https://twitter.com/ICSIL ] [ http://www.midwest-ix.com/ | Midwest >> Internet Exchange ] [ https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix ] [ >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange ] [ >> https://twitter.com/mdwestix ] [ http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ | The >> Brothers WISP ] [ https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp ] [ >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg ] >> >> From: "Christopher Tyler" >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 10:59:30 AM >> Subject: [AFMUG] Issue with Google >> >> So the other day we got an email (excerpt below) from Google's automated > tool... >> >> We are seeing automated scraping of Google Web Search from a large >> number of your IPs. Automated scraping violates our /robots.txt file >> and also our Terms of Service. We request that you terminate this >> traffic immediately. Failure to do so may cause your network to be >> blocked by our abuse systems. >> >> To allow you to identify the traffic, we are providing a list of your >> IPs they used today (Source field), as well as the most common >> destination (Google) IP and port and a timestamp of a recent request >> (in UTC) to aid in your identification. Note that this list may not be >> exhaustive, and we request that you terminate all such traffic, not >> just traffic from IPs in this list. >> >> All of the destination ports (to Google) are either 80 or 443, so they >> at least appear to be legit web traffic on the surface. They are >> obviously spoofed IP address as there are network addresses in the >> list and the IP belongs to a router that doesn't appear to be >> compromised in any way. The initial letter included 700+ IP addresses from > our network. >> >> It's now affecting our customers as they are now getting Captcha's for >> every couple of Google searches that they perform. >> >> Does anyone know of a good way to track the perpetrator(s) down and/or >> know of a way to mitigate this? >> >> -- >> Christopher Tyler >> Senior Network Engineer >> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE >> >> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions >> 1091 W. Kathryn Street >> Nixa, MO 65714 >> (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 >> www.totalhighspeed.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google
That is how we are doing it for the most part. We still have a lot of old 172.16.0.0/12 addresses that need to be converted to 100.64.0.0/10. We have been and still are steadily working towards that goal though. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "afmug" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 12:00:18 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > If you're NATing multiple customers behind a single IP address, do it this > way: > > > [ > https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Firewall/NAT#Carrier-Grade_NAT_.28CGNAT.29_or_NAT444 > | > https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Firewall/NAT#Carrier-Grade_NAT_.28CGNAT.29_or_NAT444 > ] > > > > - > Mike Hammett > [ http://www.ics-il.com/ | Intelligent Computing Solutions ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL ] [ > https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb ] [ > https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions ] [ > https://twitter.com/ICSIL ] > [ http://www.midwest-ix.com/ | Midwest Internet Exchange ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix ] [ > https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange ] [ > https://twitter.com/mdwestix ] > [ http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ | The Brothers WISP ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp ] [ > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg ] > > From: "Christopher Tyler" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 11:46:07 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > > Yes, NAT is in play here, I just now increased the NAT pool to 128 addresses > based on TJ's theory that the NAT pool might be too small. > > The source IP's seem to be spoofed or proxied somehow as the first IP address > in > the list from Google is our ARIN /20 Network address (x.x.0.0) and I find it > hard to believe that our gateway router is scraping Google for content. > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > www.totalhighspeed.com > > - Original Message - >> From: "afmug" >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 11:37:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > >> You have the source IP, port, and time. What more do you need to determine >> who's >> doing it? >> >> I'm assuming you're NATing customers at the router in question. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> [ http://www.ics-il.com/ | Intelligent Computing Solutions ] >> [ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL ] [ >> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb ] [ >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions ] [ >> https://twitter.com/ICSIL ] >> [ http://www.midwest-ix.com/ | Midwest Internet Exchange ] >> [ https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix ] [ >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange ] [ >> https://twitter.com/mdwestix ] >> [ http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ | The Brothers WISP ] >> [ https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp ] [ >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg ] >> >> From: "Christopher Tyler" >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 10:59:30 AM >> Subject: [AFMUG] Issue with Google >> >> So the other day we got an email (excerpt below) from Google's automated >> tool... >> >> We are seeing automated scraping of Google Web Search from a large >> number of your IPs. Automated scraping violates our /robots.txt file >> and also our Terms of Service. We request that you terminate this >> traffic immediately. Failure to do so may cause your network to be >> blocked by our abuse systems. >> >> To allow you to identify the traffic, we are providing a list of >> your IPs they used today (Source field), as well as the most common >> destination (Google) IP and port and a timestamp of a recent request >> (in UTC) to aid in your identification. Note that this list may not >> be exhaustive, and we request that you terminate all such traffic, not >> just traffic from IPs in this list. >> >> All of the destination ports (to Google) are either 80 or 443, so they at >> least >> appear to be legit web traffic
Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google
The ratio was about half that, about to 218:1 NAT, just decreased to about 55:1. And no, we are not recording sessions. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "Robert" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 11:44:45 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > He has an IP address that translates to 700 addresses in his customer base. He > doesn't record sessions. He doesn't have what's needed to track and individual > customer down. Probably wouldn't matter if he only had 27 customers behind the > IP address. > > On 6/19/20 9:37 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > > You have the source IP, port, and time. What more do you need to determine > who's > doing it? > > I'm assuming you're NATing customers at the router in question. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > [ http://www.ics-il.com/ | Intelligent > Computing Solutions ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL ] [ > https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb ] [ > https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions ] [ > https://twitter.com/ICSIL ] > [ http://www.midwest-ix.com/ | Midwest > Internet Exchange ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix ] [ > https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange ] [ > https://twitter.com/mdwestix ] > [ http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ | The > Brothers WISP ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp ] [ > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg | > > > ] > > From: "Christopher Tyler" [ mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net | > ] > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | > ] > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 10:59:30 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > > So the other day we got an email (excerpt below) from Google's automated > tool... > > We are seeing automated scraping of Google Web Search from a large > number of your IPs. Automated scraping violates our /robots.txt file > and also our Terms of Service. We request that you terminate this > traffic immediately. Failure to do so may cause your network to be > blocked by our abuse systems. > > To allow you to identify the traffic, we are providing a list of > your IPs they used today (Source field), as well as the most common > destination (Google) IP and port and a timestamp of a recent request > (in UTC) to aid in your identification. Note that this list may not > be exhaustive, and we request that you terminate all such traffic, not > just traffic from IPs in this list. > > All of the destination ports (to Google) are either 80 or 443, so they at > least > appear to be legit web traffic on the surface. They are obviously spoofed IP > address as there are network addresses in the list and the IP belongs to a > router that doesn't appear to be compromised in any way. The initial letter > included 700+ IP addresses from our network. > > It's now affecting our customers as they are now getting Captcha's for every > couple of Google searches that they perform. > > Does anyone know of a good way to track the perpetrator(s) down and/or know > of a > way to mitigate this? > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > [ http://www.totalhighspeed.com/ | www.totalhighspeed.com ] > > -- > AF mailing list > [ mailto:AF@af.afmug.com | AF@af.afmug.com ] > [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google
Yes, NAT is in play here, I just now increased the NAT pool to 128 addresses based on TJ's theory that the NAT pool might be too small. The source IP's seem to be spoofed or proxied somehow as the first IP address in the list from Google is our ARIN /20 Network address (x.x.0.0) and I find it hard to believe that our gateway router is scraping Google for content. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "afmug" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 11:37:58 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > You have the source IP, port, and time. What more do you need to determine > who's > doing it? > > I'm assuming you're NATing customers at the router in question. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > [ http://www.ics-il.com/ | Intelligent Computing Solutions ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL ] [ > https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb ] [ > https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions ] [ > https://twitter.com/ICSIL ] > [ http://www.midwest-ix.com/ | Midwest Internet Exchange ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix ] [ > https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange ] [ > https://twitter.com/mdwestix ] > [ http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ | The Brothers WISP ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp ] [ > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg ] > > From: "Christopher Tyler" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 10:59:30 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] Issue with Google > > So the other day we got an email (excerpt below) from Google's automated > tool... > > We are seeing automated scraping of Google Web Search from a large > number of your IPs. Automated scraping violates our /robots.txt file > and also our Terms of Service. We request that you terminate this > traffic immediately. Failure to do so may cause your network to be > blocked by our abuse systems. > > To allow you to identify the traffic, we are providing a list of > your IPs they used today (Source field), as well as the most common > destination (Google) IP and port and a timestamp of a recent request > (in UTC) to aid in your identification. Note that this list may not > be exhaustive, and we request that you terminate all such traffic, not > just traffic from IPs in this list. > > All of the destination ports (to Google) are either 80 or 443, so they at > least > appear to be legit web traffic on the surface. They are obviously spoofed IP > address as there are network addresses in the list and the IP belongs to a > router that doesn't appear to be compromised in any way. The initial letter > included 700+ IP addresses from our network. > > It's now affecting our customers as they are now getting Captcha's for every > couple of Google searches that they perform. > > Does anyone know of a good way to track the perpetrator(s) down and/or know > of a > way to mitigate this? > > -- > Christopher Tyler > Senior Network Engineer > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > 1091 W. Kathryn Street > Nixa, MO 65714 > (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 > www.totalhighspeed.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] Issue with Google
So the other day we got an email (excerpt below) from Google's automated tool... We are seeing automated scraping of Google Web Search from a large number of your IPs. Automated scraping violates our /robots.txt file and also our Terms of Service. We request that you terminate this traffic immediately. Failure to do so may cause your network to be blocked by our abuse systems. To allow you to identify the traffic, we are providing a list of your IPs they used today (Source field), as well as the most common destination (Google) IP and port and a timestamp of a recent request (in UTC) to aid in your identification. Note that this list may not be exhaustive, and we request that you terminate all such traffic, not just traffic from IPs in this list. All of the destination ports (to Google) are either 80 or 443, so they at least appear to be legit web traffic on the surface. They are obviously spoofed IP address as there are network addresses in the list and the IP belongs to a router that doesn't appear to be compromised in any way. The initial letter included 700+ IP addresses from our network. It's now affecting our customers as they are now getting Captcha's for every couple of Google searches that they perform. Does anyone know of a good way to track the perpetrator(s) down and/or know of a way to mitigate this? -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a tower building crew for a quote
Craig House at cr...@diybroadband.com not sure how busy they are right now, but I'm sure he can at least get you a quote and tell you what their timeframe looks like. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "Sam Lambie" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:17:01 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for a tower building crew for a quote > I am proposing to build an 80' say, a rohn 25-45 type tower for a school in > New > Mexico and am looking for someone to quote and build it if the school says > yes. > Is there anyone here that can help? > > -- > -- > Sam Lambie > Taosnet Wireless Tech. > 575-758-7598 Office > [ http://www.newmex.com/ | www.Taosnet.com ] > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT movie suggestions
"Breeders" is pretty funny with some dark humor in it, on Hulu I think. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "Gilbert Gutierrez" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:02:28 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT movie suggestions > Longmire on Netflix was good until the last season or two when it became > predictable. > > Gilbert > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 9:43 PM CBB - Jay Fuller < [ > mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net | par...@cyberbroadband.net ] > wrote: > > > > > Go watch "the last ship" on Hulu. Was on TNT... > > Sent from my smartphone > > - Reply message - > From: [ mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com | ch...@wbmfg.com ] > To: < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | af@af.afmug.com ] > > Subject: [AFMUG] OT movie suggestions > Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 7:41 PM > > Anyone have anything to recommend? > I saw the Ronda Rousey documentary last night. It was well worth watching. > Death of Stalin was good. > Starting to watch Killing Eve. > Devs just got weird. Meh > Westworld is getting weird too. > Billions starts up again soon... that is one of my favs. > Little fires was interesting in the beginning but became too much of a chick > flick for me at the end. > I like High Maintenance. > Better call Saul is coming to and end... sob... > Homeland is ending this week ... sob ... > BlackAF is interesting. Especially if you read up on the creator. He did > Blackish. I think I will tire of it soon. > -- > AF mailing list > [ mailto:AF@af.afmug.com | AF@af.afmug.com ] > [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT masks
It seems like a convenient way to make some people you don't like to disappear. Gather up those that speak out or don't fit into the perfect society, put them all together in close proximity and let nature take care of the rest. Added bonus, you save money on bullets and can blame the virus if it ever leaks out. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "Bill Prince" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 11:35:32 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT masks > Either way, I would not use them as an example of anything in particular. > > > bp > > On 4/9/2020 9:07 AM, Robert wrote: > > > What ever the result they were the first country outside of China to actually > publicize documents on social distancing, testing and isolation. Who knows if > they followed it, had good results or if they are piling bodies like > cordwood... > > On 4/9/20 7:43 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > > Yes, let's use North Korea as an example of how we should be doing things... > > > > - > Mike Hammett > [ http://www.ics-il.com/ | Intelligent Computing Solutions ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL ] [ > https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb ] [ > https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions ] [ > https://twitter.com/ICSIL ] > [ http://www.midwest-ix.com/ | Midwest Internet Exchange ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix ] [ > https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange ] [ > https://twitter.com/mdwestix ] > [ http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ | The Brothers WISP ] > [ https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp ] [ > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg | > > > ] > > From: "Robert" [ mailto:i...@avantwireless.com | ] > To: [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | af@af.afmug.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 6:54:43 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT masks > > But the whole world hasn't miffed this thing.. S. Korea, N. Korea, New > Zealand, > Arab States, partially Japan, some of the russian federation states, all > managed to deal with it up front. IF you got out in front of it, it was > manageable.. > > On 4/8/20 3:39 PM, [ mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com | ch...@wbmfg.com ] wrote: > > > > Jaime, > At the risk of breaking Lent, you gotta steel yourself man. > Just like learning a dear friend or relative has a terminal illness, you have > to > mentally prepare for 4 more years of a “very stable genius” with the “best > words”. > Sorry dude... I am a Romney man... > (But to address the link you sent, I don’t think we have done any worse than > Italy, France or Iran... the whole world has muffed this thing). > From: Jaime Solorza > Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:30 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT masks > [ > https://kvia.com/your-voice-your-vote/politics/2020/04/08/cnn-poll-majority-of-americans-now-say-the-federal-government-has-done-a-poor-job-of-preventing-coronavirus-spread/?fbclid=IwAR0UNYN4lz7YUfj1mKlgKXQk1_7ETsC6jQwsLNIJ3-Qto3ZnT1cJb_uh_Eg > | > https://kvia.com/your-voice-your-vote/politics/2020/04/08/cnn-poll-majority-of-americans-now-say-the-federal-government-has-done-a-poor-job-of-preventing-coronavirus-spread/?fbclid=IwAR0UNYN4lz7YUfj1mKlgKXQk1_7ETsC6jQwsLNIJ3-Qto3ZnT1cJb_uh_Eg > ] > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 7:44 PM wrote: > > > > Put on gloves and a mask to pick up a few things at the grocery store. Walked > in > and there was a construction worker in a mask, then a soccer mom then a > skinny redneck, with his skinny redneck wife. Started clucking like a chicken > when he saw me and his wife was taking a video. Was not quite calling me a > chicken loud enough that I could clearly make out exactly what he was doing, > but was grandstanding for his skanky woman > Funny how fast my natural pugilistic nature of my youth sprung into action. I > literally had to stop myself from backing him into a display of pork and beans > with some comments of “you got a problem with me”. Visions of a throat punch > were clear in my head... > But I calmed myself, reminded myself that going to jail or the ER or a dentist > would not be fun this evening, and moved alone. Ran into a handful of other > chickens on the way out the store. > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [ mailto
Re: [AFMUG] OT COVID-19 Key
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV1TEssH7k -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Cc: "dave" > Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 1:29:20 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT COVID-19 Key > Way too much time on our hands lol! > I think a productive way to devote our time is to come up with a radiated > laser > system that would target Covid in the body > and ZAP it! > > > On 4/6/20 2:24 PM, [ mailto:can...@believewireless.net | > can...@believewireless.net ] wrote: > > > > > > What's the key to COVID-19? How about this door opener that allows you to open > different types of doors without physically touching them. > > Want a "Corona Key" for your very own? STL file is attached. > > I didn't invent this. Saw an ad on Facebook, designed it myself and printed > it. > > Looking for a 3D printer? RUN, don't walk, and get a Prusa. Mine arrived the > other day after my other one died and it is nothing less than amazing. MUCH > easier to use. I pretty much press print and prints work nearly every time. > Auto bed leveling so I'm not wasting several minutes trying to level the bed > before each print. > [ > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156875270210974=pcb.10156875290840974=3=55973=AfY2h7zsGL4UwPowUCwrPWk0H_5kWG3_YxEEPxP9aJUYP4_welOE-q7CJgmpx3-qYK4&__tn__=HH-R-R=ARBf-Hr-yxspE_BPkYZ3xZY5PdiuBzmltwcEKdtmB2lcXfiDuLi8BKxJ1KQRCK5m7U85vuvjAryNkxy0 > | > ] > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Porn for Chuck
Who want's to bet he ends up with "extra" screws when it goes back together? -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "chuck" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:40:36 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Porn for Chuck > Some serious filtering going on. I counted 32 cavities. 8 per filter. Might > have > needed so many due to using ceramic resonators rather than helical or quarter > wave cavities. They could have probably made do with half that number but the > case would have been twice that deep, > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Mar 31, 2020, at 7:30 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > wrote: > > > > > [ https://youtu.be/eIcLvF2C8eM?t=833 | https://youtu.be/eIcLvF2C8eM?t=833 ] > > (Link to start of undressing part) > > -- > - Forrest > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Covid19 bandwidth
We're seeing traffic at about 9-10am go up considerably and then stay there until the evening rush starts, but the overall nightly peak is about the same as before. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 8:58:40 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Covid19 bandwidth > Looks like winter break to me. > > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 2:01 PM Ken Hohhof < [ mailto:af...@kwisp.com | > af...@kwisp.com ] > wrote: > > > > > > Businesses with no people at the office but “the server” and “the shared > drive” > are still there may find they are not set up for their entire workforce to > work > from home. The office could become the bottleneck. > > > > I often get frustrated with everything going “to the cloud”, but this might > be a > situation where that is a good thing. > > > > > > From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > On > Behalf Of Mathew Howard > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 12:43 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | > af@af.afmug.com ] > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Covid19 bandwidth > > > > > Yeah, it makes sense that would mainly be an increase in daytime usage, and > that's mostly what we're seeing as well. > > > > > > I do expect the upload thing to be a problem though... > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:21 PM Ken Hohhof < [ mailto:af...@kwisp.com | > af...@kwisp.com ] > wrote: > > > > > Kind of the same here, peaks not that much higher, but heavy usage all day. > Companies are still sending more people to work from home, and I'm starting to > get calls from people trying to save big files to the shared drive at the > office (over a VPN which adds overhead) and saying something must be wrong > because it's taking 5 minutes to save a file. > > I don't think upstream bandwidth is an issue for the kids watching Disney+ or > even the ones actually doing schoolwork. But a lot of people working from home > seem to have a workflow that involves download a huge file, edit it, upload > the > changed file, and given that the Internet is pretty much built to deliver > Netflix, they are running out of upload bandwidth. > > I'm not sure that is something we can dramatically change. I mean, we've got > upstream bandwidth sitting unused on our licensed backhauls and our upstream > provider connections, but not on the last mile connections. And it's not just > WISPs. The Internet is built for downloading. > > I would probably work on another task while the previous one was uploading, > but > that apparently doesn't work for most people. I could also wish for IT > departments to use more of an edit-it-in-the-cloud approach like Google > Sheets, > but a lot of these people literally got told to pack up their work computers > in > their cars and take them home. And everything was set up for an office LAN > environment. > > > -Original Message- > From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > On > Behalf Of Adam Moffett > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:58 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | > af@af.afmug.com ] > > Subject: [AFMUG] Covid19 bandwidth > > From where I'm sitting it looks like peak time usage has only gone up maybe > 10% > if at all, but the ramp up towards peak starts at noon instead of at 6pm. I'm > comparing late February to mid March. > > A lot of people were concerned about bandwidth, but I'm honestly not seeing a > difference in a way that actually matters. I'm sure consumption in terms of GB > will be higher, but I don't think we actually have to care. > > > -- > AF mailing list > [ mailto:AF@af.afmug.com | AF@af.afmug.com ] > [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [ mailto:AF@af.afmug.com | AF@af.afmug.com ] > [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] > -- > AF mailing list > [ mailto:AF@af.afmug.com | AF@af.afmug.com ] > [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica
This... This is why I love you guys. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "Adam Moffett" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 8:33:20 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica > Well you don't need any other supplies if you have enough ammo. If you run out > of something you just go shoot your neighbor and take his stuff. Ten thousand > rounds sounds like a lot, but it's not when you have 300,000,000 neighbors. > > > > > On 3/13/2020 8:57 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > > > I wonder, does buying an AR count as moronic behavior? I get the more ammo > thing, 10,000 rounds seems a bit much but to each his own. Don't get me wrong, > I have a few guns around and maybe a couple thousand rounds. > > I just think back to when I was a machine gunner in the Marine Corps. We had > a 3 > man crew for the 50 cal M2. The one guy carrying the receiver carried no ammo > as he was already carrying 60 pounds of metal in addition to everything else > he > had. The other two carried 100 rounds each. 200 rounds for a fully automaitc > machine gun tasked with the a major part of the fire power on a company level > for either defense or attack. In addition, the rifle platoons each carried 1 > box (100 rounds) per squad (13 guys) 3 squads per platoon so a total of 300 > rounds per platoon. 3 platoons per company. so an additional 900 rounds for a > total of 1100 rounds standard. The company commander might throw in a couple > of > extra boxes per platoon if we didn't have to move more than 15 miles or so. So > call it 2100 rounds on the outside. That is for a known or intenional > engagement. Nothing works out like you expect so sometimes you go to kill > someone and nobodies home. Sometimes they aren't where you expect. Whatever. > The point is that you are looking for a fight and you are carrying at most > 2100 > rounds. Now, if we were lucky enough to drive around in a humvee we carried > about the same amount of ammo, but with us instead of spread around. Closer to > 1800 to 2000 rounds. > > Of course there is a supply chain and if the battle is protracted you can > count > on resupply unless everything really goes South. I know you are counting on no > supply chain. But man, you are either the worst shot ever, or don't plan on > doing a lot of aiming or maybe a lot of warning shots. In my experience, once > the first guy gets shot, a lot less ammo gets used by everyone after the > initial panic. Seeing someone get shot seems to really encourage people to > hide > more. > > That makes me think, it wasn't that long ago, but I would imagine with all the > drones equipped with heat signature equipment and the like, the fog of war > aint > what it used to be. We used to count on finding the enemy by sending people > out > to look for them. When you heard a bunch of gunfire, you ran towards it > because > that meant somebody found what you were lookiing for. Seems really low tech > now. > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:05 PM Steve Jones < [ > mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com | thatoneguyst...@gmail.com ] > wrote: > > > > I went to walmart. Morons everywhere. This is a frenzy. People acting dumb, > means people will shortly do dumb things. I went and bought an AR and more > ammo > tonite. I just hope these morons stay calm at least till Monday when God > government let's me pick up the rifle. Wife shut me down on grabbing a 20 > gauge > with a pistol grip for the kids. What I buy tomorrow and dont tell her about > is > a different story. > Was talking to the lady at walmart. The truck was outside unloading into the > warehouse more TP and ramen noodles. It will be wash rinse and repeat every > day > as morons moron. They're frantic. The media has people so worked up, it's like > the world is ending tomorrow. > I have kids, so I get a fat gubmint check every tax time and fill my pantry > with > nonperishable goods on your dime. It was nice to see that the canned foods we > picked pretty clean, at least some people do have some common sense. But doing > an annual shop in the middle of this nonsense is grueling. I had to cut out > halfway through. These people are crazy. > I do have my camper ready to quarantine myself. By that, I mean I'm planning > on > sitting in my camper drinking Miller lite, Jameson, and shitposting for 2 > weeks > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:54 PM Robert < [ mailto:i...@avantwireless.com | > i...@avantwireless.com ] > wrote: > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers
I can answer that question. Don't do it. Grey market gear will end up costing you almost as much as getting it used (possibly new) from a dealer. And the hoops you have to jump through to get software updates on grey market is obscene. You have pay several thousand to get it re-certified by Juniper to get into a service contract and then you have to pay for the service contract. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "Josh Baird" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 4:06:56 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers > In some ways, Juniper isn't any better than Cisco in terms of licensed > software > features and it seems to only be getting worse. Some features (on *some* > platforms) are honor based, but lots are not and require a license. You can > purchase licenses from any Juniper reseller. I'm not sure what the process is > for getting J-Care on used/grey-market gear, as I have never tried to do that. > > You need an active support contract in order to download software from their > website, although it's not as restrictive as Cisco's which now requires you to > have a contract on a specific device to get firmware for that device iirc. > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 4:45 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < [ > mailto:li...@packetflux.com | li...@packetflux.com ] > wrote: > > > > Seems like a good question to ask the burning question I've had about juniper > and specifically how juniper deals with license/firmware updates, etc. > > We've been a cisco shop since day one. Over the years they've gotten more and > more aggressive with their licensing requirements and controlled access to > firmware updates. At this point they seem to care less about selling hardware > and are more about extracting as much license and support revenue as possible > which makes picking up a used router a much riskier proposition. > > How does juniper handle this type of stuff, especially in relation to used > gear? > And in the context of getting the right software features (bgp, reasonable > number of ospf routes, etc) enabled. And so on. > > On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 7:39 PM Mark Radabaugh < [ mailto:m...@amplex.net | > m...@amplex.net ] > wrote: > > > > Not necessarily. Depending on model many have redundant routing engines, > multiple power supplies, fan trays, etc. You may want to have spare cards and > possibly a empty chassis in the really odd event of a backplane issue. All > depends on you risk tolerance. > > Mark > > Mark Radabaugh > Amplex > 22690 Pemberville Rd > Luckey, OH 43443 > 419-261-5996 > > > > On Dec 31, 2019, at 9:18 PM, Jon Langeler < [ > mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net | > jon-ispli...@michwave.net ] > wrote: > > > > > Does one have to buy two of these for redundancy as we do with our current but > smaller routers? > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > > > On Dec 31, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Gino A. Villarini < [ mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com > | > g...@aeronetpr.com ] > wrote: > > > > > > > Can go wrong with juniper.. I’ll vouch for the MX204’s great units. Our Core > is > MX480 soon to be upgraded to MX10003 > > > > Gino Villarini > Founder/President > @gvillarini > t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 > m: > [ http://www.aeronetpr.com/ ] [ https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet ] > [ > https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr/ ] [ > https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/?hl=en ] [ > https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp ] [ > https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor > ] [ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA ][ > http://www.aeronetpr.com/ | www.aeronetpr.com ] | Metro Office Park #18 Suite > 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 > > > > > From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > on > behalf of Josh Baird < [ mailto:joshba...@gmail.com | joshba...@gmail.com ] > > Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | > af@af.afmug.com ] > > Date: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 at 11:41 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | > af@af.afmug.com ] > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers > > > > > > Overall, the JunOS syntax is far more powerful and nicer to use (once you > learn > it) than IOS in my opinion. > > > > > > On Tue
Re: [AFMUG] traffic often spikes up at 8pm
Looks about the same here... -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "Kurt Fankhauser" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:06:45 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] traffic often spikes up at 8pm > This is typical 24-hour cycle for us > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 10:49 AM Adam Moffett < [ mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com | > dmmoff...@gmail.com ] > wrote: > > > > > > Orconsidering the short time frame, maybe a popular device distributed a > software update at that time. 8pm would be the worst time to do that, but 8pm > in the midwest must be 3am somewhere in the world. > On 11/21/2019 10:45 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > > > > Looking at two 10gig pipes, the one with more load has a smooth curve. The > other > has a little under a gig of traffic, but does have a pretty pronounced > spike.in this case at 9pm rather than 8pm (which interestingly would be > the > same real time as you since I'm EST and I believe you're central). > > My guess is the one with more load has a larger "sample size" of users so it's > more difficult for the normal curve to be altered by outliers.maybe > there's > that a cluster of people like at 9 eastern / 8 central. > > > Just a guess. I'm not going to burn any more time dwelling on it. > > > > On 11/20/2019 10:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > > > > > We still see a step up around 4pm when the kids get home from school. The dip > at > 6pm seems to have gone away, I guess people stream video during dinner now. > > > > But I’m puzzled by a spike we usually see at 8pm. Is this just a fluke? Or is > there some 5 minute TV show people are all watching at exactly 8pm? > > > > I’m used to a sustained period of high traffic from around 7pm to 10pm. But > what’s the deal with 8pm? Must be kids turning in their homework? > > -- > AF mailing list > [ mailto:AF@af.afmug.com | AF@af.afmug.com ] > [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down?
+1 -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:58:36 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AFMUG.com website seems down? [ http://www.afmug.com/ | www.afmug.com ] doesn't work for me On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:35 PM < [ mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com | ch...@wbmfg.com ] > wrote: There seems to be normal amounts of traffic to me. From: Colin Stanners Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 6:23 PM To: Chuck McCown Subject: AFMUG.com website seems down? -- AF mailing list [ mailto:AF@af.afmug.com | AF@af.afmug.com ] [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Sangoma buying Voip Innovations
They also bought Digium and FreePBX so I'd say they are doing something right. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 3:37:33 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Sangoma buying Voip Innovations Just got the notice today about Sangoma buying Voip Innovations. Anybody have experience with them? Looks like they're a Canadian hardware company that does a little in the cloud PBX Area? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] RB4011iGS+5HacQ2Hnd
115200 by default -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 ext 9002 - Original Message - From: "Joe Novak" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 3:12:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RB4011iGS+5HacQ2Hnd I've seen the garbled console output when the baud rate doesn't match between clients, I'm not sure of the default setting of the RB4011 though. I am also using the non-wifi version at my house. Very happy with it. It's a workhorse. Another thing I would try is swapping the power supply, if you have a spare one available. On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 3:05 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies < m...@mailmt.com > wrote: Ken, Yeah indoors, top shelf, I'm sure the stale air up there gets a bit toasty. May have to invest in a tiny fan to keep the air moving around the new router. -- Best regards, Mark mailto: m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.Myakka.com -- Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 3:59:03 PM, you wrote: KH> Only the non WiFi version. I worry a little about the thermal management KH> compared to something like an 1100AHx4, the packaging is a little ... KH> different. I assume yours is indoors though? KH> -Original Message- KH> From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies KH> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 2:50 PM KH> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > KH> Subject: [AFMUG] RB4011iGS+5HacQ2Hnd KH> Is anyone using these? Have you had any issues? I purchased two KH> of these a few months back. KH> They work real nice. However, one of them went south today. Get just the KH> power & SFP+ light. Never get any LAN lights. Tried several things with the KH> reset button with no luck. Tried a few console cables, but just get KH> garbage with one of the cables. Looking at the docs, it looks like it uses KH> the cisco type of cable. Just ordered one that will be here on Friday. KH> Looking like something got scrambled on the boot code. KH> -- KH> Thanks, KH> Mark mailto: m...@mailmt.com KH> Myakka Technologies, Inc. KH> www.Myakka.com KH> -- KH> AF mailing list KH> AF@af.afmug.com KH> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Today’s quiz
or 106 10% -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 ext 9002 - Original Message - From: "Christopher Tyler" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:22:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Today’s quiz 906 1% -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 ext 9002 - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:15:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Today’s quiz No. Ken was closer. 802 something. From: dave Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 2:10 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Today’s quiz looks like 102 ohms @ 2% but closer to 100 ohms On 6/19/19 2:55 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Nope but closer... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:40 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Today’s quiz Is that first band grey or white? Makes more sense that it’s grey. 806 ohms 1%. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Albert J Rachide Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:37 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Today’s quiz 4060 ohms? Al Rachide Pink Hill, NC Virus-free. www.avast.com On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 2:16 PM Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: What should the resistance be? Sent from my iPhone-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Today’s quiz
906 1% -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 ext 9002 - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:15:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Today’s quiz No. Ken was closer. 802 something. From: dave Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 2:10 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Today’s quiz looks like 102 ohms @ 2% but closer to 100 ohms On 6/19/19 2:55 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Nope but closer... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:40 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Today’s quiz Is that first band grey or white? Makes more sense that it’s grey. 806 ohms 1%. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Albert J Rachide Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:37 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Today’s quiz 4060 ohms? Al Rachide Pink Hill, NC Virus-free. www.avast.com On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 2:16 PM Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: What should the resistance be? Sent from my iPhone-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Hulu proxy errors
No, we have not taken the plunge into IPv6 yet, hopefully this year. But from what I read, they aren't using IPv6 either. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 ext 9002 - Original Message - From: "Matt" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 2:44:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hulu proxy errors Can you get to Hulu on IPv6? On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 11:12 AM Christopher Tyler wrote: > > Anyone else getting customers complaining that Hulu has blocked their access? > We're using NAT for a large portion of our customers, and over the past few > days we've been getting a lot of customers calling is because Hulu has > blocked our range of NAT IP's. Does anyone know of a fix for this other than > changing the NAT IP block? Is there a way to let Hulu know that we are an ISP > and not a VPN company so that they can whitelist us? > > -- > Christopher Tyler > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > Total Highspeed Internet Services > 417.851.1107 ext 9002 > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] Hulu proxy errors
Anyone else getting customers complaining that Hulu has blocked their access? We're using NAT for a large portion of our customers, and over the past few days we've been getting a lot of customers calling is because Hulu has blocked our range of NAT IP's. Does anyone know of a fix for this other than changing the NAT IP block? Is there a way to let Hulu know that we are an ISP and not a VPN company so that they can whitelist us? -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 ext 9002 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question
Turns out the whole shelter's bus was wired backwards when we got it. Red is negative and black is positive. Not sure what the ground is relative to, not sure it really matters at this point but I'll check that out when I go out there later myself. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 ext 9002 - Original Message - From: "Robert" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 2:25:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question What Polarity do they apply to pipelines to get iron to stick to them instead of eroding away? On 4/8/19 12:08 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > I still have a hard time grasping the -/+ thing, im half moron and 50 > percent idiot though. But am I correct that -v keeps devices from > corroding as much? > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 1:53 PM Bill Prince <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > +1. > > Just had a discussion with someone talking 12V power in RVs, and he > insisted that red was negative and black was "hot". I walked away from > the discussion before we resorted to fisticuffs. > > > bp > > > On 4/8/2019 10:35 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > Never trust colors. > > > > -Original Message- From: Christopher Tyler > > Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 11:23 AM > > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question > > > > That was what I thought, thank you all for confirming. > > However, with it connected red+/black-, when our tech flipped the > > breaker it blew out the DC/DC converter. In fantastic order, I > was told. > > So I'm going to have them put a voltmeter to the wires and see > what we > > are getting from the power supply, maybe the output wiring is wrong. > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question
That was what I thought, thank you all for confirming. However, with it connected red+/black-, when our tech flipped the breaker it blew out the DC/DC converter. In fantastic order, I was told. So I'm going to have them put a voltmeter to the wires and see what we are getting from the power supply, maybe the output wiring is wrong. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 ext 9002 - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 11:59:47 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question What Ken said. Positive is always positive. Neg is always neg. 48 volts is 48 volts. If someone wants to say a load or source is -48 or +48 it just means the opposite polarity is tied to earth or chassis ground. If they say a load needs -48, it could mean that the load has the positive power wire also connected to the case. If a source says it is a -48 source, it could mean that the source has the positive lead connected to ground. You can always test a source. Ground to the wire. If you measure 48 volts between ground and one of the power wires, then it is referenced to ground. If you are on the positive wire to ground and you see 48 volts, then it is a neg ground system. If you are on the neg wire to ground and you see 48 volts then you are on a positive ground system. Positive Ground System == -48 or whatever volt system Neg Ground System == +48 or whatever BUT many sources and loads are floating where neither power lead is connected to chassis/earth/ground Sometimes they will call those 48 VDC system. But sometimes they will call them a +48 VDC system when really it is simply a 48 VDC system. Anytime -48 is printed on something, time to take it seriously. They probably mean it. -Original Message----- From: Christopher Tyler Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 9:54 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question I have a Meanwell SD-350C-24 DC/DC converter for +48v in to +24v out. I just learned that our DC plant at this site is -48vdc. I'm assuming that I can't just plug it in backwards. But we've never had to deal with -48vdc before, am I wrong in this assumption? -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 ext 9002 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] DC/DC converter question
I have a Meanwell SD-350C-24 DC/DC converter for +48v in to +24v out. I just learned that our DC plant at this site is -48vdc. I'm assuming that I can't just plug it in backwards. But we've never had to deal with -48vdc before, am I wrong in this assumption? -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 ext 9002 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Battery testers?
I recently purchased a load tester from Powerwerx https://powerwerx.com/cba-iv-4-pro-computerized-battery-analyzer-commercial ($199) works pretty well. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 11:31:38 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Battery testers? That’s what I’m talkin’ ‘bout. Either use one of these on the battery itself or do it in the circuit with the live load. From: Brian Sullivan Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 10:27 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Battery testers? Our TrippLite units have a self test feature and report when the bank of backup cells are beginning to fail. To identify which cell it is we use a basic load tester. BAD cells get recycled and 'not-so-bad' cells get reused on non-critical devices. https://www.harborfreight.com/100-amp-612v-battery-load-tester-61747.html On 8/2/2018 11:18 AM, Darren Shea wrote: We have UPS systems at pretty much every site, and we know that our 12V AGM batteries will need to be replaced at regular intervals, but we'd like to be able to test the batteries to make sure we prioritize the ones which are in the worst shape. I checked on Amazon, and there are dozens of different battery testers of this type, ranging in price from under $20 to $150, but it's hard to sift through all these devices to find the ones that would work best for our purpose. Do any of you use any portable battery testers to check the health of your batteries in the field? Which features or units did you find are worthwhile/necessary, and which units and features are useless or worse? Thank you, Darren -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
