Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

[Darren Shea]

I poll my PacketFlux gear using Nagios and SNMP, and Nagios is already 
configured to alert me using an email-to-SMS gateway, so I can get temperature 
or voltage alerts pretty easily, and add new items to monitor without much 
hassle..

 

Darren

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 2:41 PM
To: TJ Trout; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

 

So how do Forrest’s products let you know of an issue?  Traps?

 

\Would love to NOT have to have NMS just for this.  

 

 

From: TJ Trout 

Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1:35 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Cc: Chuck McCown 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

 

Packet flux can do it all too, the base unit can monitor two voltages and temp 
and a few contact closures, if you need more volt inputs or closures you add a 
expansion unit. No email that I'm aware of

 

On Wed, May 8, 2024, 12:23 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

No, we have fuse alarms, rectifier, inverter, and other comm equipment alarm 
contacts.  Circuit breaker alarms.  That is why historically I liked the 
netguardian product.  It eats everything.  Monitors DC voltages etc.  Temps

 

 

 

From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1:13 PM

To: af@af.afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

 

I think if your installed equipment all came from one vendor, there might be 
some way to do their proprietary monitoring solution.

However, SNMP as flawed as it might be, is the only standard that is nearly 
universal (because some implementations are better than others).

 

bp


On 5/8/2024 11:30 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

We are needing to add some monitoring of old fashioned alarm contacts in one of 
our sites.  In the past I used Netguardians.  Not sure what Forrest has.  

 

Is SNMP still the defacto NMS comm method or are there better more modern stuff 
out there we should be looking at?

 

 

Best Regards,
Chuck McCown

McCown Technology Corporation 
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Win 11

[Darren Shea]

Agreed! I thought the old “odd ones are lame” rule was in reference to Star 
Trek movies, anyway…

 

Thank you,

Darren

ECPI/Western Broadband

(512) 257-1077

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 7:13 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Win 11

 

and some might argue Windows 7 was the best.

 

bp


On 11/3/2022 5:03 PM, Daniel Pautz via AF wrote:

Nahhh ’97 rocked

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 5:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group   
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Win 11

 

All the odd Windows suck.

 

On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 6:00 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

and??

 

bp


On 11/3/2022 1:08 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

You realize 11 is an odd number...right?

 

On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 4:07 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

New computer.  No desktop icons.  Second day of trying fixes.  Can live without 
desktop icons if I have to but this is nuts.  Hundreds of articles on the 
interwebs suggesting fixes.  So far none have worked for me.  

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Re: [AFMUG] BDC service

[Darren Shea]

Trey, 

  That’s the part that annoys me – I have found homes where the Fabric says 
they’re in a different census block than they ought to be in, and a LOT of 
addresses which just don’t appear in the Fabric at all. Since the location IDs 
can only be derived from the Fabric, those errors and omissions will make the 
BDC data less useful than it ought to be.

 

Thank you,

Darren

ECPI/Western Broadband

(512) 257-1077

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Trey Scarborough
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 11:22 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC service

 

Yeah, but this is kind of unheard of they didn't even require this type of 
information back when they were doing all of this for phone lines. Its too late 
now but if as a whole everyone would have said no we are not doing this. If a 
majority of small ISPs didn't they would have a hard time enforcing the 15k 
fines. That would leave a spoltlight on VZ, ATT, Windstream, etc and there is 
no way their information is going to be accurate either. Then it would have 
been made more apparent that the data they are providing is garbage. When the 
underlying element of address fabric is flawwed and not accurate especially in 
rural areas. I really don't understand how they can expect the RF propagation 
and everything else to be accurate.

 

On 8/25/22 2:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Not filing is a bad decision.

 

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 2:55 PM Cameron Crum  wrote:

cheat has a special section for this . Look at the bottom left. You have to 
build your speed tier to signal strength mappings so they can export polygons 
for your speed tiers. It's a bit different from just the regular runs. If you 
have cheat polygons, we can prep your stuff pretty quickly as we don't have to 
do all the analysis. It's basically your contact info, what services you are 
filing for and then your polygon and fabric uploads. 

 

Cameron

 

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 1:45 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

The companies doing the BDC filings 

What data, specifically are they going to need from us to do the filing?

Im trying to get the export out of CnHeat, but I still need to get more sites 
into it and I havent even started the whole subscription side

Anybody just not filing?

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Re: [AFMUG] VMWare

[Darren Shea]

Mark,
  VMWare doesn't include any decent backup software, but there are a lot
of third-party backup programs which work great with VMWare. We use Nakivo,
and it talks to our vCenter server in control of the whole cluster so we can
easily back up our systems live. I have heard good things about Veeam, as
well. 

I like having the vCenter Server, which is included in the Essentials Plus
kit - not only does it make backups easier, but it also makes it
ridiculously easy to spin up new VMs or clones, and you can monitor the
whole cluster's health in one view.

Thank you,
    Darren
    ECPI/Western Broadband
    (512) 257-1077

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Technologies
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 1:42 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] VMWare

We  had  a  slight  electric  issue  yesterday.  Messed up some of our
VM  servers.   I  got things rigged back together, but I need to build a
more
robust VM system.

I'm  look  to  move  into  the  VMWare  world.  I think Vmware Vsphere
Essentials Plus is the route I need to go.  I may be able to get away
with just Essentials, but the extra tools may help.

Any  thoughts  on  setup.  Currently we run RAID10 on each VM Host and
backup to a NAS.  I'm thinking I'll keep that setup for the VMWare.

If  I  get Essentials Plus will I be able to to HOT backups of running
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Re: [AFMUG] I Quit

[Darren Shea]

I have three, although I don’t always choose to use the third:

 

SCARE

POUND

LIGHT

 

I was shocked recently, when my first word was the actual word for the day

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 1:12 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Quit

 

OK, I’ll show you mine if you show me yours:

Start words

ADIEU

SNORT

 

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:54 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Quit

 

Wordle was about to escalate to violence between me and my son so we have 
refrained. 

 

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My wife and I go toe to toe each morning with Wordle.  She is the only one that 
I care about beating/sharing/bragging/gloating.  

 

From: Robert 

Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 9:55 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Quit

 

Or brags about wordle

On 6/1/22 8:19 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:

Facebook is a nice way to keep in touch with people from my past.

 

I block or snooze anyone who uses it as a soapbox.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

[Darren Shea]

Steve, even for someone with a well-deserved reputation as an inveterate 
shit-stirrer and troll, this is beneath you. Seriously… 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 12:50 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

 

 

You folks are only upset because some white kids may have been shot. You dont 
care that more kids of color are killed annually in here and there shootings. 
Get off the big ticket outrage bandwagon, its dispicable.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Passenger van Rentals

[Darren Shea]

My experiences with a commercial van rental company (can't remember the name
of the company, as it was over 20 years ago) was that my first wife booked
it, and didn't properly read the contract, so after our 2000 mile long
vacation, she got stuck with a ridiculous mileage rate for everything over
1000 miles. Since this was a trip from Austin to Leadville, Colorado, with
lots of sightseeing, that ended up being about 1000-1200 miles over.

 

Your trip looks to be about 900 miles per direction, so you definitely need
to read the fine print!!

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 3:16 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Passenger van Rentals

 

We need to rent vans in Chicago and drive to the South Carolina area.  

On 2/16/2022 3:13 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Look for lakes around the area you intend to go like Lake Powell. Many of
the local houseboat rental firms have links to vehicle rentals in the area
on their websites since much of their customer base flys in

 

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 2:58 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

I'm looking to rent a couple passenger vans to take the church kids on a 
trip this summer.  Enterprise has no Vans, since they have a contract 
with Fedex/Amazon who's depleted their van fleet, and they can't get new 
vehicles like everyone else.  They claim to not even have mini-vans 
available for rental right now.  I supposedly have a reservation for 1 
15 passenger Van, but we've been burned by Enterprise in past years when 
we go to pick it up, they'll not actually have a van and try to 
substitute 2 5 passenger SUV's instead.

Hertz want's you to use their online booking site, which is setup for 
single vehicle rentals, not multiples, and they only have Minivans.  
Using the website Chat seems like they just look at the same webpage you 
do.

Am I missing any obvious places for commercial passenger van rental?  
There was a movie shoot around here over the summer, they probably 
brought in 50 or 60 12 passenger vans to haul people from parking to the 
set, but no rental companies label them anymore to see where they were 
from.

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Re: [AFMUG] Never seen this before

[Darren Shea]

Over near Austin, we saw several of our PMP450 APs on DFS frequencies going 
nuts on 10/20, as well. 

 

Sunspots? Aliens? I have no idea…

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 6:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Never seen this before

 

So i installed one AP and three remote Ubiquti radios for small SCADA system in 
Fort Hancock, Texas a few months ago.  

Used a DFS channel to avoid all the noise from three wireless ISPs in area.  No 
issues until yesterday when all three remote sites lost connection.   Lasted 
about 15 minutes and everything came back fine...this morning same thing...i 
was in Tornillo so close enough for me to drive to Fort Hancock quickly...told 
them not to touch anything or reboot AP.

When i got there links had been up for a few minuteslogged in and was 
watching all sites...

Then boom, AP lost connection with radios ..saw this DFS Radar message on 
dashboardhad never seen one...nearest airport is small one in Fabens...

Then i asked if they had seen any Border Patrol trucks nearby...they said , yes 
by water ...marked and unmarked ...the latter has a telescoping system with 
long range thermal cameras and other goodies .

I switched to 5160 MHz with 10MHz wide channel and monitored it for severa 
hours...no issues...

Has anyone see this before?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

[Darren Shea]

I know there’s supposedly no such thing as a stupid question, so please be kind 
if this actually is one, but… 

 

Might there be a way to increase the distance between the cable jack and the 
bottom of the box? I don’t really have an issue when I’m cutting and crimping a 
new fitting on a cable, but if I want to use a premade cable with 
strain-relief, that’s when my mumbled curses start flying. Even a 
half-centimeter more of a gap might help…

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

 

There is not enough room to make a hole large enough for a grommet that will 
allow a cat5 plug to pass.  We have about .735” to work with.  You need a 
minimum of .750 hole and the grommet itself is 1” dia.  

 

I could do a split grommet that would just fit the CAT5 but then you will have 
to install the  grommet with cable filling it and that will be a big pain 
forcing it in.  The other seal that is already there slides out so you are not 
having to force a round grommet into the hole.  

 

It is easy if the grommet doesn’t have anything going through the center when 
you install it.  

 

I doubt no one wants to feed the wire through then install the plug.  

 

From: Jason McKemie 

Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 11:56 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

 

I've drilled holes in the bottom of the DC SS enclosures, directly below the 
connectors.  Works well enough for those, it would be a bit more of a pain with 
the RJ45 connector though since you'd have to install the end afterwards.

 

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 11:51 AM Carl Peterson  
wrote:

We have recently seen similar issues when using Chuck's surge suppressors.  Not 
sure what changed, the RJ 45s, The jack Chuck uses, or my techs but we figured 
out that it was caused by the cable getting pulled sideways in the surge 
enclosure and the tolerance stack on the RJ/RJ jack just not working in our 
favor.  Now we add a zip tie in the little enclosure to force a bend/cross in 
the in/out cable.   

 

P.S. If you are reading this Chuck we would really really like an enclosure 
with a separate in/out feed similar to the 600SS or something like that so the 
cable can go straight up into the jack and not get pulled sideways.  

 

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:44 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

I've put up alot of the F300, haven't seen any problems.  Bad cable or Radio?  
Did you try a different POE?  9/10 times Ethernet seems to be a problem with 
the termination and/or cable.  I've done 1000's of ends, but just the other day 
I did one with one blue and green wire switched, I think that caused weird 
Ethernet problems.  Of course it was the end at the radio and not the 
easy-to-get-to inside connection.  

On 7/15/2021 9:32 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Installed a PTP  link with great signal but Ethernet port will not lock at 
1000FDX...only 100FDx...if i force it it loses connection or 10mbps hex... 

Latest firmware...

Any ideas?

I even put a Trendnet Ethernet switch between Poe and Edgeswitch...

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Re: [AFMUG] Jaime, look

[Darren Shea]

There was a neighborhood lady selling smoked brisket tamales at $15 per dozen a 
few years back – they were incredible!

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 3:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jaime, look

 

Some lady my neighbor works with. She was selling a dozen for 10 bucks but 
couldnt keep up so she raised it to 13. Around here a dozen real tamales goes 
for 18 to 20

 

On Mon, May 17, 2021, 3:24 PM Jaime Solorza  wrote:

Where are they from? 

 

On Mon, May 17, 2021, 12:44 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

Just look at this

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political

[Darren Shea]

I just figured it was pronounced like Latina or Latino – so I say it 
“la-TEEN-ecks”

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 11:55 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political

 

Honest question: How is LatinX pronounced?  Am I supposed to say "Latin Ex" or 
"Latinks"?

 

On 2/12/2021 12:47 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/oregon-math-course-racism-white-supremacy-teachers

https://www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-education-math-white-supremacy

 

From: Carl Peterson 

Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 10:18 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political

 

Not sure of your source but I think you misunderstand.   

 

https://www.mathnasium.com/littleton-news-when-one-correct-math-answer-is-not-enough

 

"Reframing the above problem to encourage divergent thinking might look 
something like this:

“Find the sum of 32 + 5 and then create more equations that have the same sum.”

Theoretically, someone could keep thinking about this problem forever and 
generate infinite correct answers."

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:32 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

Just read of a push to teach a “new math” the encourages multiple “correct 
answers” to math problems and eliminates “show your work”.  Supposedly cleanses 
math teaching from institutional racism.

 

OK, irrespective of your genetics, heritage, cultural backgropund and gender 
choices, if I tell an employee to go read the sequentials off of a reel of 
cable and tell me how much is left, they better get one frigging answer, the 
one and only correct answer.  

 

So I am an old fat entitled unwoke white guy.  By some accounts automatically 
racist.  I don’t feel that way, but again I am unwoke (whatever in the hell 
that means)  so I wouldn’t know.  

 

I simply don’t get how getting the one and only right answer in math class is 
institutional racism.  Can you imagine someone that came up through schools 
that allow this trying to get into an engineering program?  Now who is 
suppressing whom...

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Re: [AFMUG] OT old timer question

[Darren Shea]

I think I had some of the toys based on him as a kid!

http://www.plaidstallions.com/ideal/jj.html

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 7:45 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT old timer question

 

You should read up on our local celebrity true life detective Jay J. 
Armes...his hands were blown off by those left by railroad tracks...

He rescued Marlon Brando's son who was kidnapped using Cheater Bella , a 
Vietnam era helicopter pilot I believe from Baja California...he also started 
as an assassin on Hawaii Five 0...

He was a pretty good county commissioner...

 

 

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 4:59 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

When I was young they had posters at grade school showing us what blasting caps 
looked like and to tell a grup if we saw any.  I think there may have been tv 
commercials too.  Just piqued my interest.  Maybe it was due to growing up in 
logging country in Oregon.  Did they do this in other places too?

 

I found the lock open on an explosives locker at the county gravel pit and 
played with caps and sticks of dynamite.  I never had the guts to actually try 
to set it off but I took them out and messed with them.

 

Couple of farm kids in the area got into their dads caps and it killed one of 
them and blinded the other.  

 

I wonder when this ceased to be a thing?  

 

The big display boards they brought into JR High showing all the different 
kinds of drugs piqued my interest too...

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Re: [AFMUG] 8-12 SFP port non-MT switch?

[Darren Shea]

We've had pretty good luck with the Dell X4012 switch - 12 SFP+ ports, decent 
GUI, easy to set up with VLANs, but they aren't fanless.

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To: AF@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 8-12 SFP port non-MT switch?

I have a friend looking for a fanless 8-12 SFP cage switch/router, preferrably 
with a single 10G SFP uplink interface, something smaller than rack mount and 
not Mikrotik to mount in remote cabinets where he needs more fiber out of a 
single backhaul strand. Any suggestions? He’s looking at Juniper, etc. but 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT good eats

[Darren Shea]

I did eat that 1 year frozen piece of cake with my 1st wife – back in 1988. It 
was not the worst piece of cake I ever tasted, but it also wasn’t a fruitcake!

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 8:03 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT good eats

 

I could be mistaken, we’re talking 1972, but I seem to remember my wife 
choosing a “traditional wedding fruitcake” for our wedding reception, and 
ordering one special from a bakery.  I also distinctly remember her saying we 
should freeze a piece and eat it on our first anniversary.

 

Young people, let me clue you in on a secret - those are both pranks that the 
older generation may try to pull on you.  Don’t fall for them.  Especially the 
one year old piece of cake.  Save it and take it out if you wish, but don’t try 
to eat it.

 

Of course, if it’s like Chuck’s fruitcake, you could just leave it out on the 
counter for a year, supposedly they improve with age.  Especially if they’re 
drowned in rum or brandy.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 7:35 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT good eats

 

Around here, you can use it in place of bricks for home construction.

 

bp


On 12/5/2020 3:49 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Fruitcake is an actual thing? 

 

 

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 5:31 PM Jaime Solorza  wrote:

Ah ...no

 

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 4:19 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

Orgasmically good fruitcake from Costco.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

[Darren Shea]

My daughter goes to an Idea College Prep charter school – she’s in 7th grade, 
and her school uses Microsoft Teams. My sons attend a local public school which 
won’t start classes until after Labor Day, and last year, they used a mess of 
tech: Zoom video conferences, Seesaw for parent/teacher feedback, and random 
files of any format for whatever else was needed.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 2:51 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

 

I just got off the phone with a parent who says their kids use Google Meet for 
classes.  And some people have mentioned Microsoft Teams, but that was either 
for work or maybe college, I don’t think I’ve heard anybody say they are using 
Teams for K-12 classes.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 2:30 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

 

If client has video turned off then the upload is similar to a VoIP call.

Apparently the downlink can vary quite a bit depending on what the presenter is 
doing.  Like audio only vs screen share vs video.  On top of that the video can 
auto train. So yeah lots of variance.  

 

On 9/2/2020 2:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

In theory the upstream bandwidth could be a problem, because Zoom says they 
need a little over 1 Mbps both directions.

 

What I’ve actually seen is adults working from home typically have a steady 1M 
symmetric during a video conference.  School kids on the other hand are all 
over the map.  The traffic isn’t constant, and the upstream seems a lot less.  
I think it may depend on how they have it set up, like do you see the whole 
class in thumbnails.  And the upstream may only go to a big number when the 
teacher calls on that student?

 

One thing’s for sure, you get a house with WiFi coverage issues and a whole 
bunch of Zoomers, and they’re going to be calling and bugging the crap out of 
us.  It’s similar to gamers who call saying things like it’s freezing or 
lagging or there’s audio but no video or one kid is fine but the other can’t 
get on.  And it’s an existential crisis that has to be fixed right now this 
nanosecond and you hear the kids yelling at the mom in the background.  Some 
problems are people on the lowest speed plan with insufficient upstream, but 
others I’m not sure what their problem is.  One is saying only one of their 
kids can Zoom but their neighbor on our service and the same speed plan has 4 
Zooming no problem.  Does that mean they go to the same school, are in the same 
grade, have the same teacher?  Probably not.  And could it be WiFi issues?  
Probably.  

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 1:41 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group   
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

 

we have one house with 5 remote learners, other than when theres a file getting 
uploaded, even on a small connection the mother ive been communicating with has 
said its been working flawlessly. is zoom related to skype in its back end?

 

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:33 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

Porn isn't zoom.at least not yet.  Maybe that's the next new normal.

Netflix also isn't zoom.

So if 5 kids using Zoom on a 3mbps connection is the problem then what you say 
is true.  If it's 1 or 2 kids competing with other households' Netflix and 
Chill then QoS can address that.

 

On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

If everything is Zoom, and you prioritize Zoom, you prioritize everything.  
It’s like everyone is a winner, but if nobody loses, what’s the point?

 

I have observed that Zoom seems to use a little bit of TCP presumably a control 
channel and mostly UDP I think it’s on something like port 8801.  Not sure if 
you have 3 or 4 students in the same house and maybe 1 or 2 adults all Zooming, 
if additional ports get used, kind of like VoIP using 5060, 5061, 5062, etc.

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 12:25 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

 

Apparently they already set DSCP values to 56 for the audio and 40 for the 
video.

Trusting DSCP from the Internet carries other dangers though (like Apple thinks 
iPhone software updates need expedited forwarding).

 

On 9/2/2020 1:18 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

zoom and google classroom are surprisingly resilient on their own. i dont know 
if its a school setting, or a default, but it seems it auto scales. I would 
actually be concerned about prioritizing it causing it to ramp up resolutions, 
etc and cause more net demand. unless maybe find the absolute minimum 
requirements and QOS that as the min

 

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:04 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

Is the a simple way to classify Zoom traffic for prioritizing it?  Like 
a layer7 match or matching a certain IP block.

School is restarting soon 

Re: [AFMUG] OT An American Pickle

[Darren Shea]

Chuck – there is no HBO Max channel for the Roku, but you can access your HBO 
Max programming via the Hulu or AppleTV channels on the Roku, as long as you 
configure those to connect to HBO’s servers.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 12:20 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT An American Pickle

 

Yeah I hate trials because I always forget to cancel them.  

And I hear you cannot use a Roku to view it?

 

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 9:46 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT An American Pickle

 

Free HBO Max trial

Free Hulu + HBO Max trial

Plus probably bundled with various AT things like cellphone plans, DirecTV, 
etc.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 10:38 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT An American Pickle

 

Would like to see it, but don’t have HBO max.  I presume I am screwed?

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Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

[Darren Shea]

We are putting remote PDUs at all sites as a general precaution – there’s too 
many devices which can fail/crash, requiring a truck roll, that end up getting 
fixed by a power cycle. It doesn’t take too many disruptions like that to 
realize the value of a remote reboot with ping watchdog option.

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 5:09 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

 

If you see enough problems that you're putting in a a remote PDU - replace the 
router before putting in the PDU unless absolutely nothing else than the RB4011 
will work.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 4:31 PM Darren Shea  wrote:

I only have one RB4011 in the field, but it seems to have a problem a couple
times a year. I now have it on a remote PDU which can power-cycle it when it
stops responding to pings, but if they come out with a f/w fix for this
problem, I'd be very interested!

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 11:24 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

This week I've had 2 RB4011 Routers lockup requiring a power cycle. They 
were still passing some traffic, but stopped doing things like handing 
out DHCP, or responding to SNMP.  And you couldn't log into them via 
Winbox or MACNeighbor.

One was on ROS6.44.3, the other on ROS6.45.  Both of them were doing 
NAT, whereas most of my Mikrotiks are only routing.  Both of these 
locations have multiple RB4011s, and only the one doing NAT locked up.  
Nothing is recorded in the log other than the reboot.  These were both 
routers that have been installed for months.  One router lockup I can 
attribute to a fluke, but 2 in the same week is worrysome.  Has any one 
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Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

[Darren Shea]

I only have one RB4011 in the field, but it seems to have a problem a couple
times a year. I now have it on a remote PDU which can power-cycle it when it
stops responding to pings, but if they come out with a f/w fix for this
problem, I'd be very interested!

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 11:24 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

This week I've had 2 RB4011 Routers lockup requiring a power cycle. They 
were still passing some traffic, but stopped doing things like handing 
out DHCP, or responding to SNMP.  And you couldn't log into them via 
Winbox or MACNeighbor.

One was on ROS6.44.3, the other on ROS6.45.  Both of them were doing 
NAT, whereas most of my Mikrotiks are only routing.  Both of these 
locations have multiple RB4011s, and only the one doing NAT locked up.  
Nothing is recorded in the log other than the reboot.  These were both 
routers that have been installed for months.  One router lockup I can 
attribute to a fluke, but 2 in the same week is worrysome.  Has any one 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

[Darren Shea]

I’ve timed singing the chorus to Mr. Brightside in my head at 22 seconds, and 
singing it to myself won’t cause me to long for the sweet release of death as 
Baby Shark or Happy Birthday would.

 

Yet…

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 7:23 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

 

or four rounds of baby shark.

bp

 

On 3/1/2020 5:11 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

You have to sing 2 rounds of happy birthday when you wash your hands, fyi, 
otherwise the soap isnt really doimg anything. I found this out when i had c. 
Diff a couple months ago. I also would prefer kungflu over c diff.

 

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 7:08 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

They were reporting it in december, heavily

 

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 6:18 PM Matt Hoppes  
wrote:

I humbly disagree. 

 

I’ve been tracking this thing in China since it started in late December. 

 

I kept asking myself “why is the media NOT reporting on this?  They like to 
hype everything!”

 

 


On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:53 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies  wrote:

There are only a few things we know for sure.

1. It is already in the US
2. More people in the US will get it
3. More people in the US will die.

Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know 
anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus 
starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you bother 
to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some experts".  The 
current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 14 
days and base all our models on this and report it as the most likely scenario. 
 We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We don't know how it reacts to 
UV light.  We don't know how it will do in warm/humid conditions.

My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the states 
before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered thinking it 
was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not everyone who 
gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who gets 
hospitalized will die.

The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this thing 
 way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of Lysol or Lysol 
type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant wipes were gone.  
Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.  The closest reported 
"maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we get a reported case in 
Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start burning and looting?


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Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:


I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I do 
pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find though.
This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
 

 
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you

bp


On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:



Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a Nazi.  So 
the Internet says.

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group   
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is in 
asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too Weve said 
too much

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett <  
dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:


Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.

On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:


Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically designed 
to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. Obviously 
this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a majority of the 
population so they can initiate another run at global domination. My neighbors 
mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband Brad told her that he heard 
that this is what brexit was all about. Germany and Great Britian are forming 
an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there is a shadow government of guess 
what... Nazis.

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett <  
dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:


You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?

On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> I'm waiting for Godwin...
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

[Darren Shea]

My son is VERY excited about the Sonic movie, but he’s only 7 years old…

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 11:54 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

 

My son claims he plans on going to the Sonic movie when it comes out.  Not sure 
if he is serious or yanking my chain.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 10:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

 

I hear it has Greta Thunberg as princesses Leia.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Dec 16, 2019, at 9:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

 

Eagerly awaiting your review of Star Wars Ep 9 next weekend 

 

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Founder/President
@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 
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From: AF  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 4:03 PM
To: "af@af.afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

 

Richard Jewell
Wait for it to hit streaming. Not much new here if you followed it originally.

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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad

[Darren Shea]

That makes sense. When we decommissioned our uGPS units because they would (far 
too) frequently trigger the factory default procedure on PMP320 APs, we did not 
talk to Cambium about it. I guess we should have let them know.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 2:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad

 

Cambium did recently relay to me a feedback issue is that they don't get 
details. They get "this mount sucks" and "that gland is a piece of crap" but no 
clear description of failure.

 

But in re the op, this is what you get for angering the WISP gods. One does not 
simply turn away from packetflux without consequence. It's likely a squirrel 
will chew cables in the near term and a plague of ants will infest your 
enclosures

 

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 7:15 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

I checked for that, but I’ll look closer.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad

 

It looks like those are probably the same gland they're using on some of the 
new ePMP radios... the rubber part is spit, so you can get an RJ45 through it 
just fine.

 

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 3:12 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

Matt, I think I just discovered another problem – do the glands really require 
that you crimp the RJ45 plug on the cable AFTER passing it through the gland?  
Ideally a shielded plug.

 

That’s more than inconvenient, I’m going to have to order something else.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis via AF
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 2:46 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Matt Mangriotis 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: CnPulse sad

 

Just want to say THANK YOU for the feedback. I love reading this list every day…

 

Matt

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 2:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad

 

Yes, with universities having “cry closets” for our snowflake generation to use 
during finals, what would one expect.  

 

BTW, AFMUG is not a “safe space”, we do our best to “trigger” snowflakes and it 
could be best said that we are a “brave space”.

 

From: Nate Burke 

Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:37 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad

 

I'm sure they stopped doing that because all the sensitive engineers who are 
just out of college now can't handle being told that their ideas are bad.  

I think the last time they had an event which was similar was when the original 
god-awful EPMP 1000 dishes had just come out.  The meeting was in January, we 
had one with and tried to get the engineers to come out and assemble it on the 
tailgate in the parking lot with us.  They refused.  

On 9/25/2019 2:34 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Way back in the day, Motorola would send some of us prototypes to test and give 
feedback on before they finalized the designs.

They used to also have groups of users voice opinions about the roadmap.

 

From: Eric Muehleisen 

Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:28 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CnPulse sad

 

I had the same head scratching moment with the uGPS before it was called the 
cnPulse. The design is awkward to say the least. It didn't have any idiot 
lights which was difficult for the tower crew to troubleshoot. We quickly 
removed it and went to a RackIjector. Best decision ever.

 

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 2:11 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

We’ve always used PacketFlux sync products with Cambium radios, I have a 
somewhat unusual install involving a 450i and an omni and wanted AUX port sync 
and decided to try a CnPulse instead of ordering a Syncbox Jr. AUX port version.

 

Am I wrong, or did the Cambium team responsible for this product royally mess 
up?

 

1)  Big multilanguage instruction sheet, nowhere shows how to assemble or 
install the product.

 

2)  Instruction sheet has generic photo of Cambium radios installed at a tower 
but does not show a CnPulse.

 

3)  Bracket is stupid and for some reason they decided the cable glands should 
come out horizontally not at the bottom.

 

4)  Screws for attaching bracket (or flipping it around to mount on the 
opposite side of the pipe) require a T15 bit, because every tower climber 
carriers Torx bits.

 

5)  Label for which port is which is on the back where the bracket attaches.  
Yes there are also labels molded into the plastic housing, but the grey on grey 
is almost invisible.

 

The bracket is so stupid it’s tempting to just electrical tape the unit to the 
pipe.  Except if we pointed the cable glands down, would it still see the 
satellites?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Camper for sale

[Darren Shea]

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/former-hooters-waitress-settles-toy-yoda-laws
uit/

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:19 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Camper for sale

Will this be like the guy who won a Toyota but it turned out to be a toy
Yoda?

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:30 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Camper for sale


https://bhdg.myshopify.com/collections/best-sellers/products/camper-car-with
-super-large-expansion-space?fbclid=IwAR1CxRO6q8IizPTsgInEMUCEeZf1ZDSwRfOJla
oZY5kkM5tp-EMKV1Ii8aA

If you click that link you'll see a camper on sale for $187.00. Since the
full retail price is over $19k, I'm guessing the sale was supposed to be
$18,700.  I went ahead and ordered it just for the hell of it and they
charged my card $187, and sent me a confirmation email saying they'll let me
know when it ships.

Is there a law or court precedent on something like this?  If a $19k camper
shows up at my door, am I legally obligated to say something to them since
it obviously couldn't be the correct price?

By the way, if it actually shows up then I'm going to offer you all a brand
new pop-up camper for a screaming good price at the next Friday for-sale
day.

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Re: [AFMUG] Hatch Chile ...best for Chile Rellenos

[Darren Shea]

$70 for 5 pounds of Hatch Chiles? I’m glad I live in Texas – less than $2 per 
pound for Hatch Chiles at my local HEB. 

 

My wife eagerly awaits the season because she loves my fresh Hatch Green Chile 
Salsa recipe – I swear she can finish a quart of it in a few days!

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:23 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Hatch Chile ...best for Chile Rellenos

 

https://www.hatch-green-chile.com/

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Re: [AFMUG] IoT and LAN IPs

[Darren Shea]

Oh yeah, we've already run into this with Cambium's ePMP line - their
default DHCP setting in NAT mode uses a pool of 10 addresses, including the
radio/gateway itself. If the subscriber's router is in bridged mode, they
rapidly run out of internal IPs. It's an easy fix to pushthe size up to 50
or more addresses, but you're absolutely right. There are a lot of routers
currently in use which were designed before every device in the house needed
an IPv4 address, and connected speakers, light bulbs, switches, and
everything else IoT are going to create a million minor problem calls over
the next few years.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:40 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: [AFMUG] IoT and LAN IPs

 

With all the Internet enabled stuff people are putting in their houses now,
are conventional routers going to run out of LAN IP addresses?

 

Yes, I know about IPv6 (and let's not unleash that holy war), also about
smarthome hubs.  But most people seem to be just buying stuff like fridges
and toasters and doorbells and lightbulbs and cameras, and hooking them up
to their WiFi router.

 

Almost any router you buy at the store is going to have a LAN subnet like
192.168.1.0/24 and may not allocate all of that for DHCP range.  So there
are at most 253 available addresses, and possibly as little as 50 or 100.
Until recently this should have been way more than needed, but it seems
inevitable that homes will soon have more than 253 connected devices.

 

May just mean switching to a bigger subnet, but average Joe doesn't know how
to do that.  Meanwhile if during the day his "things" have taken the entire
DHCP range and he gets home and his phone or laptop can't get an IP, he
things it's an Internet problem.

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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RADIUS

[Darren Shea]

When we were using PPPoE and RADIUS, we had the user's successful login return 
the subscriber's plan from the radusergroup table (each group was defined in 
radgroupreply using the "Mikrotik-Rate-Limit" atrribute), and the IP was 
assigned via the Framed-IP-Address response from the radreply table

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 6:23 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RADIUS

Answered my own question:
Mikrotik-Group is the attribute.  The docs make reference to hotspot 
profiles, but also seems to work for PPPoE profiles.  The user will get 
whatever settings are in the default profile for that PPPoE server AND 
then also get settings from the profile specified in the 
"Mikrotik-Group" attribute. Very useful.  Glad we had this talk.



On 5/16/2019 6:22 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> Can one of the Mikrotik RADIUS attributes assign a PPPoE Profile?
>


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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Fiber SFP+

[Darren Shea]

I have mostly had good luck with fs.com, but in those circumstances where
they aren't as compatible as I want, fluxlight.com is pretty good, too.

 

https://www.fluxlight.com/sfp-10g-lr/

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Fiber SFP+

 

Hi

 

We are using CCR 1036-8G-2S+, what Single Mode LR Fiber 10G SFP+ compatible
modules are you using successfully?  

 

Thanks

 

Adam

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Re: [AFMUG] SNMP V3 Browser

[Darren Shea]

I didn't notixe until I hit "Send" that the v3 support requires the
Professional version, at $295 - sorry about that!

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Technologies
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:44 AM
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Subject: [AFMUG] SNMP V3 Browser

Anyone have a link to a free/cheap simple SNMP V3 browser for windows.
 Trying  to  do some V3 stuff with the new dude version and not having
 any  luck.   Want to try accessing the switch with different SW for a
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Re: [AFMUG] SNMP V3 Browser

[Darren Shea]

I like this one - it comes with a bunch of useful tools
http://ireasoning.com/mibbrowser.shtml

-Original Message-
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Technologies
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] SNMP V3 Browser

Anyone have a link to a free/cheap simple SNMP V3 browser for windows.
 Trying  to  do some V3 stuff with the new dude version and not having
 any  luck.   Want to try accessing the switch with different SW for a
 second opinion.


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Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

[Darren Shea]

That makes sense – when we started using ours a couple of years ago, I was 
thinking they would have some turnkey options we could later modify as needed. 
Nope, that’s not how they do things. They basically sell you the box and a 
support contract, then they teach a person at the company how to design and 
implement things like bandwidth plans and shaping rules, and how to interface 
with a PSM if that’s the direction you want to go. There’s a lot of 
documentation, but a fair amount of it is needlessly arcane, and there just 
aren’t any “best practices” configuration ideas they can share. I can’t imagine 
that’s an efficient way to do things for a smaller WISP.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 10:43 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

 

Everything I've heard is procera is not supporting small ISP's like wisp's any 
longer. They are focusing on the 100k+ wisp's. 

 

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018, 11:20 AM Kurt Fankhauser  
wrote:

We outgrew the box is why we switched. We tried to go with procera virtual 
which was procera on your own (to their spec) box but it was riddled with 
problems. A appliance the next size up with $70k and we were not ready to drop 
that kind of money on it. although I kinda wish we would have. Saisei has had 
weird UDP traffic flow issues. We've had Voip and VPN issues where we've had to 
bypass customers around the box until we rebooted. Thought it was fixed but 
it's returned again.

Gonna give pressem a try and see what happens. If it doesn't work not sure what 
we will do. Only real option is mikrotik queues. I guess.

 

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 8:53 PM Ryan Ray  wrote:

The biggest thing we are looking for is being able to keep customer experience 
high even while they're using their plan. Our problem now is someone will be 
using 50Mb/s sustained on the down, and their pings go high and experience is 
worse than it should be. Trying to get buffer bloat down, being able to 
prioritize different traffic behind others is nice as well. We will see what 
happens. 

 

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:47 PM Ryan Ray  wrote:

Also testing out Preseem. Signed up at wispa, just got the boxes in the network 
and can't wait to see what it can do.

 

 

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:29 PM Adair Winter  
wrote:

Honestly, we loved procera. We are currently with Saisei but not overly happy.

About to do a preseem demo. 

I can send more detail if you'd like later. On mobile now. 

 

Adair 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT - autotune

[Darren Shea]

Yeah, as I get older (I'm three months younger than Sgt. Pepper's), my
tolerance for bad music has waned, and as an amateur
musician/songwriter/singer, I generally find auto-tuned vocals to be obvious
and grating. "If you can't reliably hit the note in the studio, then change
the melody to one you can sing!"

 

Sometimes, used subtly and in moderation, or for a deliberate doubling
effect to the instumental melody I can tolerate it (I'm thinking "Some
Nights" by fun, for instance). 

 

One of my favorite album stickers ever is from Allison Moorer's 2002
release, Miss Fortune, which read "Absolutely no vocal tuning or
pitch-correction was used in the making of this record." Great album, too!

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 2:45 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: [AFMUG] OT - autotune

 

Probably just because I'm old, but I can't stand the overuse of autotune in
most pop music today.  Not just to polish up a few off-key notes, but the
whole song is heavily autotuned.

 

For anyone on the list who lives or travels outside the US, is this just a
US phenomenon?  Or is it everywhere, including Europe and South America?

 

I heard the studio version of this song on the car radio last night and had
to Google the lyrics to find the singer, who turned out to be from Germany.
Obviously capable of singing without autotune, or at least performing live
without lip syncing:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38FORtUWDKA

 

I don't know where the recorded music industry is headed.  I try to find
high res FLAC downloads and most of what's available is remastered stuff
from 30+ years ago.  The few "audiophiles" today seems to be listening to
vinyl on their tube amps.  Yet I saw an ad for a $15,000 85 inch 8K
resolution Samsung TV, shipping later this month.  Video and audio seem to
have gone opposite directions.  (I estimate that 8K streaming video will
require up to 100 Mbps Internet speed.)

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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gbps SPF+ Modules

[Darren Shea]

Fiberstore has great prices, but I've found some compatibility issues with
their modules - on the other hand, FluxLight (https://www.fluxlight.com/) is
a bit pricier, but if they say the module is Dell compatible (for instance),
a Dell switch will definitely recognize it.

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 4:11 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 10Gbps SPF+ Modules

Anyone know of an in stock source for 10Gbps single mode SPF+ modules
that work with Mikrotik? Inexpensive would be great too.

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Firmware Release Notices?

[Darren Shea]

If you are a member on the Cambium forums, you can subscribe to the forums for 
the specific hardware platforms, and Cambium is  usually good about posting 
there when they release a new firmware – I find it helpful, even if the 
signal-to-noise ratio is a little weak.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 9:38 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Firmware Release Notices?

 

Not that I’ve found but it’d be nice if they had a list you could subscribe to.

 

I just check their site every now and then or wait for someone else to post 
about it.

 

-sean

 

 

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:02 PM Christopher Gray  
wrote:

Is there a meaningful way to get alerts about Cambium firmware releases without 
having to check their download section daily? 


Thank you - Chris 




 

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[AFMUG] Battery testers?

[Darren Shea]

We have UPS systems at pretty much every site, and we know that our 12V AGM
batteries will need to be replaced at regular intervals, but we'd like to be
able to test the batteries to make sure we prioritize the ones which are in
the worst shape.

I checked on Amazon, and there are dozens of different battery testers of
this type, ranging in price from under $20 to $150, but it's hard to sift
through all these devices to find the ones that would work best for our
purpose.

Do any of you use any portable battery testers to check the health of your
batteries in the field? Which features or units did you find are
worthwhile/necessary, and which units and features are useless or worse?

Thank you,
Darren



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