Re: [AFMUG] Powering Mikrotik CCR from DC
Late reply.. but !. This should answer your question ! https://shop.meconet.de/Hardware-component-parts/Accessories/DC-power-cable-for-MikroTik-CCR-CRS-25cm::116243.html?language=en Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "SmarterBroadband" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 3:04:57 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] Powering Mikrotik CCR from DC > Is anyone powering Mikrotik CCR routers from DC. It looks like if you pull the > included AC PSU it feeds the Tik with 24volt DC. So can we just remove the > supply and feed the tik from a 24v DC supply? Anyone doing this? Anyone know > what the make / model of plug on the PSU? > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Merca version of fs
You know they have sales reps who will be more than happy to get the the item you are looking for. They also have ability to customize items for any particular needs. If you need, I can do intro to my Sales Rep. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:56:32 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Merca version of fs > My problem with FS is finding what I want on their web site. > From: Adam Moffett > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:42 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Merca version of fs > Welldepends on the item. > For the metal and plastic stuff, Multilink was very close to FS as long as you > had enough volume for distributor pricing. I'm talking about enclosures, > splice > trays, etc. To get the good pricing from Multilink you'll have a meeting with > them, talk about potential volume, get a credit check, etc. Fiber Instrument > Sales is pretty price friendly too if you call and talk to them. If you order > direct from the online store you'll pay MSRP. If you talk to them, negotiate, > make commitments, etc you'll get a good price. > The beauty of FS is everything is just right there spelled out on the web site > and you didn't have to buy 100 of them to get a good price. Add to cart, > provide cc#, stuff shows up at the door next week. FS is still easier even at > a > higher price so I think for a lot of the time we'll still just be paying more > at FS and that's just how it's going to be. > The electronics are coming from Asia in any case, so I think you'll just have > to > pay more for them. > Just my 2c. > -Adam > On 10/11/2018 2:03 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: >> Even with the tarrifs I'm sure they'll still be a fraction of the price of >> domestic suppliers. >> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > >> wrote: >>> With fs raising prices across the board because of "tariffs" is there a >>> stateside manufacturer or non China sourced vendor with similar post >>> "tariff" >>> across the board increase pricing? >>> Anybody know of any in the pipe vendors? Preferrably originating product in >>> cuba? > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Edgeswitch Vlan Leaking
So keep this in mind. A trunk port (carrying Tagged vlan) will also have untagged traffic (native vlan) by default. An Access port cannot carry tagged vlan traffic (an access port is where tagged vlan traffic is untagged on egress and tagged in ingress). Now assuming that the ES1 is a normal L3 switch, if you have a port carrying tagged vlan 104, I am going to assume it is setup as a Trunk Port, thus by default you have untagged native vlan (most switches will allow you to change the native/untagged vlan from 1 to any other vlan ). I am going to assume that the lingo you are using, "Exclude vlan" is from the switch's documentation or some other documentation you have read. Some places use the "Exclude" term for tagged vlans / trunk ports, because by default on those switches, when you define a trunk port, you do not need to specify the specific tagged vlans that are going to be carried on that trunk port. e.g. if you are using two cisco switches, and you have 10 vlans on each, when you connect the two switches together using a trunk port, you do not need to specify all 10 vlans as 'allowed' on the trunk port... they by default will be 'allowed' .. thus the terminology of 'Exclude' if you don't want an existing vlan to go across a trunk port. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Nate Burke" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 6:09:31 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Edgeswitch Vlan Leaking > Thanks for the explanation. Am I understanding that on the ES1, if the > port is only setup as a Tagged Vlan104, and excluded from everything > else, it will still show non-tagged traffic as well as tagged traffic as > Vlan104? My Thought was that if the physical port on ES1 is not set as > untagged for any vlan (It is excluded from All other Vlans, including > Vlan1), that Only tagged Vlan104 traffic should be present at the Mikrotik. > > Nate > > On 9/5/2018 4:51 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >> Let me help you out.. .think of a port as a Tube, a tagged vlan is another >> tube >> running inside the bigger outer tube. >> The outer tube is Untagged Vlan traffic or native vlan traffic ... >> >> A trunk port is one that can see both the outer tube (untagged vlans) as >> well as >> the inner tubes (tagged vlans) >> An access port is one where the inner tube (tagged vlan) is connected to act >> as >> the Outer Tube (ie. tagged traffic in received and it flows thru as >> untagged). >> >> In your example, you have a tagged vlan 104 going thru the MT1, ES1, EPMP SM, >> and the EPMP AP (let's just stop here in the chain, for a moment). >> Which is all good, however, by virtue of the physical connection, you also >> have >> the Untagged traffic connected.. >> in other words, you have native/untagged traffic flowing all the way thru, >> along with Tagged Vlan 104 traffic. >> >> Now if you look at the rest of the chain, you are taking Untagged vlan 1000 >> (native) + Tagged vlan 104 into ES2, and then handing them off as two tagged >> vlans to MT2. >> Which means that between ES2 and MT2 native/untagged traffic is not going >> anywhere other than staying between these two devices. >> >> and this would explain why MT1 is able to see everything via native + vlan >> 104, >> and MT2 is able to see everything via Vlan 1000 and Vlan 104, and only the >> ES2 >> via native vlan. >> >> Hope it makes sense. >> >> Regards. >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> http://www.snappytelecom.net >> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: "Nate Burke" >>> To: "Animal Farm" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 1:30:45 PM >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Edgeswitch Vlan Leaking >>> I'm sure I have something missing in my configuration, but I haven't >>> been able to figure it out yet. Edgeswitches on Version 1.7.4 and 1.8.0 >>> >>> Mikrotik1 <-Tagged Vlan104-> Edgeswitch1 <-Tagged Vlan104-> EPMP SM >>> <---> EPMP AP <-Untagged Vlan1000, Tagged Vlan104-> Edgeswitch2 >>> <-Tagged Vlan1000,Tagged Vlan104-> Mikrotik2 >>> >>> Mikrotik1, in it's neighbor list, is able to see on Vlan104 all devices >>> that exist on Vlan1000 at Edgeswitch2. Since the Port on Edgeswitch
Re: [AFMUG] Edgeswitch Vlan Leaking
Let me help you out.. .think of a port as a Tube, a tagged vlan is another tube running inside the bigger outer tube. The outer tube is Untagged Vlan traffic or native vlan traffic ... A trunk port is one that can see both the outer tube (untagged vlans) as well as the inner tubes (tagged vlans) An access port is one where the inner tube (tagged vlan) is connected to act as the Outer Tube (ie. tagged traffic in received and it flows thru as untagged). In your example, you have a tagged vlan 104 going thru the MT1, ES1, EPMP SM, and the EPMP AP (let's just stop here in the chain, for a moment). Which is all good, however, by virtue of the physical connection, you also have the Untagged traffic connected.. in other words, you have native/untagged traffic flowing all the way thru, along with Tagged Vlan 104 traffic. Now if you look at the rest of the chain, you are taking Untagged vlan 1000 (native) + Tagged vlan 104 into ES2, and then handing them off as two tagged vlans to MT2. Which means that between ES2 and MT2 native/untagged traffic is not going anywhere other than staying between these two devices. and this would explain why MT1 is able to see everything via native + vlan 104, and MT2 is able to see everything via Vlan 1000 and Vlan 104, and only the ES2 via native vlan. Hope it makes sense. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Nate Burke" > To: "Animal Farm" > Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 1:30:45 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] Edgeswitch Vlan Leaking > I'm sure I have something missing in my configuration, but I haven't > been able to figure it out yet. Edgeswitches on Version 1.7.4 and 1.8.0 > > Mikrotik1 <-Tagged Vlan104-> Edgeswitch1 <-Tagged Vlan104-> EPMP SM > <---> EPMP AP <-Untagged Vlan1000, Tagged Vlan104-> Edgeswitch2 > <-Tagged Vlan1000,Tagged Vlan104-> Mikrotik2 > > Mikrotik1, in it's neighbor list, is able to see on Vlan104 all devices > that exist on Vlan1000 at Edgeswitch2. Since the Port on Edgeswitch1 is > set for Tagged vlan104 and excluded from all other vlans, shouldn't this > isolate all traffic to only Vlan104, which means that Mikrotik1 Should > only see Mikrotik2 in a neighbor list? Vlan1000 does not exist in the > Vlan Table of edgeswitch1 at all. Everything is working the way I expect > it to, I'm just trying to figure out why I'm seeing the layer2 neighbor > traffic when I don't think I should. > > Nate > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt Pico Station Replacement
I have a couple of units new old stock both pico m2 and pico high power Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "can...@believewireless.net" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 9:49:57 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt Pico Station Replacement > I'm going to try the Mikrotik. > RBwAP2nD > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > wrote: >> Epmp1000 is MIMO. Pico is only 1x1. Just keep that in mind. >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Dave < dmilho...@wletc.com > wrote: >>> Cambium epmp1000 hotspot kit. >>> Comes with 2 5dbi antennas and in 2 different bands 2.4G and 5G >>> On 08/31/2018 09:27 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: >>>> Any cheap, outdoor replacements for the Pico Station omni? >>> -- >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Pie at my house...
LOL !... yes we all get to an age when the mind says you can conquer the world, but the body afterwards tells you that you ain't a spring chicken no more ! Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Chuck McCown" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:21:07 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pie at my house... > He said that would also be the last time when I asked about it. > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2018, at 7:28 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > wrote: >> Ajit Pai appears to be pretty adventurous, I am sure he would have taken you >> up >> on the offer ! >> When was the last time you saw FCC Chairman do this ! >> https://natehome.com/2018/08/22/fcc-chairman-ajit-pai-climbs-a-communications-tower-in-colorado/ >> Regards/ >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> http://www.snappytelecom.net >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>> From: "Chuck McCown" < ch...@wbmfg.com > >>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 2:59:52 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pie at my house... >>> Wanted him to operate my directional drill. That was the plan but the >>> Congresswoman joined the event and his field trip portion got scrubbed. >>> From: Chuck McCown >>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 12:58 PM >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pie at my house... >>> I cropped out the Congresswoman that was to my right... >>> He actually came to our company, had a round table and she had a press >>> conference. >>> From: Lewis Bergman >>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 12:54 PM >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pie at my house... >>> I am so disappointed. I had visions of blackberry pie. Rubbing elbows with >>> the >>> powerful. Way to go Chuck! >>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 12:08 PM Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: >>>> OK, Pai... >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Your server 162.222.29.1 has been registered as an attack source
See if some proxy services are turned on (socks ? )
Try Torch to see if you can see the traffic in your router ..
See if there are any user accounts created which should not be there.
Regards.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
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> From: "TJ Trout"
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:03:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Your server 162.222.29.1 has been registered as an
> attack source
> I have the tiks on the latest current with everything locked down and the
> forward chain has all commonly abused services filtered as well. Can someone
> give me an idea what I need to do here?
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 12:57 PM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote:
>> Unimus should tell you what's changed in the router's config.
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> The Brothers WISP
>> From: "TJ Trout" < t...@voltbb.com >
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 6:00:21 PM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: Your server 162.222.29.1 has been registered as an
>> attack
>> source
>> Anyone know of a mikrotik exploit or what this traffic capture might mean?
>> I have my router locked down and all common abuse ports/services filtered in
>> both router and pass thru to customers
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: BitNinja < incident-rep...@bitninja.io >
>> Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 10:58 AM
>> Subject: Your server 162.222.29.1 has been registered as an attack source
>> To: < exp...@gmail.com >
>> Dear Provider,
>> I’m George Egri, the Co-Founder and CEO of BitNinja Server Security. I’m
>> writing
>> to inform you that we have detected malicious requests from the IP
>> 162.222.29.1
>> directed at our clients’ servers.
>> As a result of these attacks, we have added your IP to our greylist to
>> prevent
>> it from attacking our clients’ servers.
>> Servers are increasingly exposed as the targets of botnet attacks and you
>> might
>> not be aware that your server is being used as a “bot” to send malicious
>> attacks over the Internet.
>> I've collected the 3 earliest logs below, and you can find the freshest 100,
>> that may help you disinfect your server, under the link. The timezone is UTC
>> +2:00.
>> http://bitninja.io/incidentReport.php?details=7281f016fb83701789
>> {
>> "PORT HIT": "162.222.29.1:32862-> 94.46.59.143:8080 ",
>> "MESSAGES": "Array
>> (
>> [11:34:08] => GET / HTTP/1.1
>> Host: 94.46.59.143:8080 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
>> 6.1; WOW64)
>> AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/51.0.2704.103
>> Safari/537.36
>> Content-Length: 0
>> )
>> "
>> }
>> {
>> "PORT HIT": "162.222.29.1:57131-> 37.187.190.61:8080 ",
>> "MESSAGES": "Array
>> (
>> [19:06:48] => GET / HTTP/1.1
>> Host: 37.187.190.61:8080 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
>> 6.1; WOW64)
>> AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/52.0.2743.116
>> Safari/537.36
>> Content-Length: 0
>> )
>> "
>> }
>> {
>> "PORT HIT": "162.222.29.1:56717-> 104.128.74.105:8080 ",
>> "MESSAGES": "Array
>> (
>> [16:26:25] => GET / HTTP/1.1
>> Host: 104.128.74.105:8080 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
>> 6.1; WOW64)
>> AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/52.0.2743.116
>> Safari/537.36
>> Content-Length: 0
>> )
>> "
>> }
>> Please keep in mind that after the first intrusion we log all traffic between
>> your server and the BitNinja-protected servers until the IP is removed from
>> the
>> greylist. This means you may see valid logs beside the malicious actions in
>> the
>> link above. If you need help finding the malicious logs, please don’t
>> hesitate
>> to contact our incident experts by replying to this e-mail.
>> For more information on analyzing and understanding outbound traffic, check
>> out
>> this:
>
Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium
Love the armchair discussion, with everyone shooting from the hip, without actually reading the article... Ubiquiti sued Illinois-based Cambium on Tuesday, claiming the company is selling firmware that changes the existing firmware on Ubiquiti's wireless equipment so it exceeds Ubiquiti's transmission thresholds, making it no longer compliant with the Federal Communications Commission's rules. = No they are not suing for IP !, they cannot ! They are making an interesting case. I can also understand why they might be compelled to make such a case ! ( makes a for a very interesting liability responsibility ! ) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] 3db+ Antenna Phase Bonding?
Some of the mojo/secret sauce Mimosa has been doing !... https://mimosa.co/blog/2016/demystifying-antenna-polarizations so there are some fcc rules which apply, it is my understanding that for linear polarization the signal are supposed to be subtracted, thus reducing effective gain of (dual polarity) however for circular polarity the signal levels are added together... This is the reason why A5's Quamni were circular polarity, and field deployments showed a 3db gain over other radios. But I believe due to some other limitation, they are choosing to go with 3db advantage gained with beamforming for the A5c's over circular polarity arrays. BTW, if you are going extend the cone on the RF Element Horns, my only question is .. by doing so, aren't you simply re-creating the Ultra Horns ? please feel free to enlighten me if I am missing something. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Gino Villarini" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 6:32:37 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3db+ Antenna Phase Bonding? > I was under the impression that by phasing 2 antennas you achieved 3db more > gain > (tx and rx) > From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > on behalf of Brian Webster < > i...@wirelessmapping.com > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > > Date: Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 9:33 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' < af@af.afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3db+ Antenna Phase Bonding? > Double the gain or double the power with the 3 dB? Increasing the gain is > going > to narrow your beam no matter how you slice it. > Thank You, > Brian Webster > From: AF [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 7:51 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3db+ Antenna Phase Bonding? > Doubling the gain > From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > on behalf of Rory Conaway < > r...@triadwireless.net > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > > Date: Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 12:43 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3db+ Antenna Phase Bonding? > Gino, what are you trying to accomplish and what AP are you using to do that > with? > Rory > From: AF [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini > Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:12 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3db+ Antenna Phase Bonding? > Easy for you who can fabricate anything on a whim! :-) > From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > on behalf of Chuck McCown < > ch...@wbmfg.com > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > > Date: Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 9:59 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3db+ Antenna Phase Bonding? > Easier to just continue with the cone making it longer. > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 9, 2018, at 4:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > wrote: >> Whats the distance for 5ghz? Wondering if I can bond 2 RF Element Horns for >> improved gain >> Gino A. Villarini >> President >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL
Everyone is entitled to make their own decisions and analysis. Everyone who has been doing dsl resell will tell you that, such business is a big drain on resources with little to no return. (There are many of us who have legacy business that we have kept going for other reason ) Most folks today who are doing resold services, and making money are 1) Telecom Agents / getting residuals commissions or MSP/VAR's who are adding their markup on the 'wholesale' price to make it worth while. Best of Luck Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Matt Hoppes" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" , "Faisal Imtiaz" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 9:53:50 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL > Faisal, > While I mostly agree with you... in our extremely rural areas this > sometimes becomes a better option for folks than nothing. > > On 7/25/18 9:51 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >> There is a great saying that might be very much applicable for this >> topic... it goes something like this... >> >> Everyone needs to make the same mistake at least three times to learn >> from it (i.e. not make it again). >> Smarter people will learn from making the same mistake only twice ! >> May you be among with one who makes it once and the second one be >> watching someone else make it ! >> >> >> = >> >> Reselling DSL service would definitely fall into that category. >> Disclaimer, we became ISP's by reselling BellSouth DSL services back 18 >> years ago. >> In the hay days, we had as many as 2000 subscribers, across 7 Southern >> States, >> Today I believe we have less than 60-70 subs left. >> We also have a total of 3 dial-up customers too ! >> == >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> http://www.snappytelecom.net >> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> >> >> *From: *"Mike Hammett" >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 25, 2018 9:41:41 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL >> >> Why go broker and not direct? >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> >> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 24, 2018 5:53:22 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL >> >> I guess either. But specifically here reseller. >> >> On Jul 24, 2018, at 15:11, Chris Fabien > <mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>> wrote: >> >> We used to do this through Ikano - they may be same company as >> you mentioned. We found the wholesale rates to not be >> competitive and troubleshooting issues was quite difficult. >> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Matt Hoppes >> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: >> >> Anyone here wholesaling Frontier DSL? Is there a better >> broker to go through than Dial-up-USA? >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL
There is a great saying that might be very much applicable for this topic... it goes something like this... Everyone needs to make the same mistake at least three times to learn from it (i.e. not make it again). Smarter people will learn from making the same mistake only twice ! May you be among with one who makes it once and the second one be watching someone else make it ! = Reselling DSL service would definitely fall into that category. Disclaimer, we became ISP's by reselling BellSouth DSL services back 18 years ago. In the hay days, we had as many as 2000 subscribers, across 7 Southern States, Today I believe we have less than 60-70 subs left. We also have a total of 3 dial-up customers too ! == Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Mike Hammett" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 9:41:41 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL > Why go broker and not direct? > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > Midwest Internet Exchange > The Brothers WISP > From: "Matt Hoppes" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 5:53:22 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Wholesale DSL > I guess either. But specifically here reseller. > On Jul 24, 2018, at 15:11, Chris Fabien < ch...@lakenetmi.com > wrote: >> We used to do this through Ikano - they may be same company as you >> mentioned. We >> found the wholesale rates to not be competitive and troubleshooting issues >> was >> quite difficult. >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Matt Hoppes < >> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net >> > wrote: >>> Anyone here wholesaling Frontier DSL? Is there a better broker to go through >>> than Dial-up-USA? >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions on VDSL Modems
This is a product / project being done by Robert Muller, I have seen the demo units, I don't have any in my network at the moment. Robert is easy to find on Facebook. From some of his recent posts, I understand that initial inventory is now available to ship from their US warehouse. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Rob Genovesi" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 11:46:37 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions on VDSL Modems > Faisal, have you gotten any Fast Systems units in your network? I've > seen chatter about them on Wisp Talk but it's been a year and people > are still waiting for pricing and more details. > > > Cheers, > > Rob > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 8:07 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > wrote: >> If you are planning to spend money, how about an upgrade to deliver faster >> service ? >> >> Take a look at http://www.fastsystems.net/ >> >> Regards. >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> http://www.snappytelecom.net >> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> >> >> From: "Sam Lambie" >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 6:04:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions on VDSL Modems >> >> Google doesn't come up with smart rig modems. Got a link perhaps? >> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 3:41 PM Chuck McCown wrote: >>> >>> Smart rig work well for us. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2018, at 3:13 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: >>> >>> I am about to upgrade an old Adtran dslam that I have had running for 15 >>> years at a 13 unit MDU and will be going to a vdsl model with backwards >>> compatibility to adsl2+. >>> Do any of you fine fellows have experience with VDSL modems that you would >>> like to share? >>> Thanks >>> Sam >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Sam Lambie >>> Taosnet Wireless Tech. >>> 575-758-7598 Office >>> www.Taosnet.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Sam Lambie >> Taosnet Wireless Tech. >> 575-758-7598 Office >> www.Taosnet.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11
Tim, Actually even in the 1x80FDD mode, the radio will do traffic split other than 50/50, which kind of makes it a unique animal. one of the reason we did not feel the need to switch out the B11 for AF11x on the 1x80, cause due to traffic split, the B11's performance was coming very close to what the AF11x would do on the 56mhz channel duplex. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Tim Hardy" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:04:57 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 > I’ll look but there’s nothing other than 50/50 with the 1x80 FDD option. > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 7:27 PM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: >> I think those rates are what you'd get with a 50/50 traffic split - if it's >> running in flexible mode, you should be able to get close to double that in >> one >> direction... but it's been awhile since I've played with settings on a B11, >> so >> I could be wrong. >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > >> wrote: >>> Something is off in your Mimosa # see picture attached.. >>> Respectfully, >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> http://www.snappytelecom.net >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>> From: "Tim Hardy" < thardy...@gmail.com > >>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:32:32 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 >>>> I realize that these are theoretical values supplied by the manufacturer >>>> and >>>> attaining these is another matter entirely. But, I thought it might help >>>> to see >>>> a comparison of supplied specs. >>>> Manufacturers are supposed to provide the “air-rate” that does not include >>>> header compression, overhead bits, etc. but from what I remember it was not >>>> possible to get this from either UBNT or Mimosa. So, the claims of >>>> throughput >>>> are all over the place and its not easy to compare radios based on >>>> manufacturer >>>> supplied data. If you look at an Aviat spec sheet, you will see an Airlink >>>> capacity and a Max Ethernet Capacity based on 64 byte frames, physical >>>> layer, >>>> with DAC GE3. Mimosa supplied data is confusing as all data that I saw >>>> before I >>>> retired last October was listed in full duplex and considered everything >>>> on a >>>> path. For example, they publish 1472 Mbps for the 2X80 radio but this >>>> takes an >>>> astonishing 8 chains to accomplish vs.UBNT’s 4 chains for the full duplex >>>> rate. >>>> I won't even go into the havoc that the TDD radios create for efficient >>>> use of >>>> the spectrum - especially in bands where 98% of the installed base is FDD. >>>> That >>>> would take too long and its not the point of this post. >>>> Not knowing what assumptions were used for either radio, I did a >>>> comparison of >>>> their 80 MHz channel plan radio configurations (using their listed data)and >>>> this is what I found: >>>> To accurately compare radio to radio, one must compare the Mimosa TD-FD >>>> (based >>>> on 2-streams or chains) values to UBNTs Mimo (based on 2-streams or chains) >>>> values and the data rates listed below are assumed each direction. >>>> 80 MHz channel plan radio >>>> UBNT - Both Polarizations bit rates specified per direction on the path >>>> 1024 QAM 688 Mbps -52.5 dBm 10-6 BER >>>> 256 QAM 550 Mbps -60.5 dBm 10-6 BER >>>> QPSK 138 Mbps -81.5 dBm 10-6 BER >>>> Mimosa - Both Polarizations bit rates specified per direction on the path >>>> 256 QAM 368 Mbps -64.5 dBm 10-6 BER >>>> QPSK 83 Mbps -82 dBm 10-6 BER >>>> The Mimosa radio catches up to UBNT when 2X80 is used and the throughput >>>> values >>>> listed here double. I also listed the radio thresholds as there was some >>>> talk >>>> about difficulty holding the higher modulation in the UBNT radio. >>>> Hopefully, >>>> this shows why since the B11 wou
Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11
>>> Neither radio has much better performance than a 10 year old traditional >>> 256 QAM radio. One should take that with a grain of salt ! In absolute terms, yes that could be an accurate statement. How is pans out in reality is questionable ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Mike Hammett" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 1:36:15 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 > I don't have an incentive to use either as there is so little 11 GHz spectrum > in > my area. > Neither radio has much better performance than a 10 year old traditional 256 > QAM > radio. > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > Midwest Internet Exchange > The Brothers WISP > From: "Jason McKemie" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:32:20 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 > More dependable, predictable, etc. > I take it you like the B11? I like the radio interface and SFP on that radio, > I > like just about everything else on the AF11. > I've just read about several instances where people have replaced the B11 with > the AF11fx - I haven't read a single one the opposite way around. I'd like to > hear if you've had a different experience. > On Tuesday, July 17, 2018, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: >> Define "better". >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> The Brothers WISP >> From: "Jason McKemie" < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < Af@af.afmug.com > >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 8:02:34 PM >> Subject: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 >> Does anyone have experience with both of these that can provide some >> guidance as >> to which has worked better? >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11
>>> few reviews that seem to indicate B11 does not work as well as the AF11x I was purposely staying away from subjective, opinions. Yes there are folks who will make the argument one way or another.. and there are many folks who are happy, rather very happy with their B11's & AF11x We happen to be operating both B11's and AF11x, both have their own set of 'peculiarities' and we are happy with both products. Technically speaking it is hard to do an apples to apples comparison our B11's are on a 1x80mhz channel, performance wise the meet our expectations, and are/were not worth it to be replaced by AF11x. B11's have a very unique feature, the ability to do 75/25, 50/50, or 25/75 traffic splits on the fly Our AF11x are on 40meg as well as a 1x80mhz channel ... they do provide full duplex thru put, and can be a bit challenging on maintaining full 10x modulation. Some folks have found actual throughput issues, we have not needed to push ours to the edges. Putting up Two AF11x links is feasible, as long as it is a practically viable option. (space / tower rent cost etc etc). Both are good radios. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Jason McKemie" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 9:24:55 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 > Yes, I've read a few reviews that seem to indicate that the B11 does not work > as > well as the AF11x - just curious if others have seen the same thing. Could > just > about put up 2 AF11x links in 40Mhz channels for the same price as one B11. > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Matt Hoppes < > mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > > wrote: >> Out perform does not equal “work better” though. >> On Jul 16, 2018, at 21:13, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > wrote: >>> What would you like to know? There have been many discussions on this list >>> and >>> other lists in regards to a comparison of the two ? >>> Reader's digest version would be as follows:- >>> If you can get what is called a 2x80 channel, then the B11 will out perform >>> If you can only get less than a 2x80, then AF11x can out perform >>> (purely from a top speed comparison basis ) >>> ( 2x80 is two 80mhz channels in both polarities H, and you are allowed to >>> TX & >>> RX on both channels) >>> (1 x 80 is two 80mhz channels in both polarities H, the traditional >>> licensed >>> radios High & Low channels, each side can only TX in on of the two >>> designated >>> channels). >>> Regards. >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> http://www.snappytelecom.net >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>> From: "Jason McKemie" < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > >>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < Af@af.afmug.com > >>>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 9:02:34 PM >>>> Subject: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 >>>> Does anyone have experience with both of these that can provide some >>>> guidance as >>>> to which has worked better? >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11
What would you like to know? There have been many discussions on this list and other lists in regards to a comparison of the two ? Reader's digest version would be as follows:- If you can get what is called a 2x80 channel, then the B11 will out perform If you can only get less than a 2x80, then AF11x can out perform (purely from a top speed comparison basis ) ( 2x80 is two 80mhz channels in both polarities H, and you are allowed to TX & RX on both channels) (1 x 80 is two 80mhz channels in both polarities H, the traditional licensed radios High & Low channels, each side can only TX in on of the two designated channels). Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Jason McKemie" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 9:02:34 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 > Does anyone have experience with both of these that can provide some guidance > as > to which has worked better? > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
