Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper
The key is to make your network modular so you can swap out Cisco for Juniper or Juniper for Cisco or whatever the flavor of router/switch you may like at that point in time. Try not to get tied to an ecosystem. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net — https://j2sw.com (AS399332) https://blog.j2sw.com - Podcast and Blog > On Jan 23, 2024, at 10:45 AM, > wrote: > > I started on Cisco forever ago. During my WISP times it was a blend of > Mikrotiks and refurb Cisco’s. > I started on Juniper a few years ago. It was alien at first, but I learned > to like it. Networks are never homogenous….at least not forever. > And after 25 years of scripting, programming, system admin, network > engineering, etc I have had to learn a lot of different syntax so I don’t see > a problem adding one more to the mix. I wouldn’t have a lot of sympathy for > an employee who’s stuck on Juniper or Cisco and doesn’t want to do the other. > > Call me crazy if you want. > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via AF > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 1:51 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Cc: Peter Kranz > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper > > Juniper has an entirely different programming style that Cisco.. most network > folks like one or the other, I would not suggest mixing them in your network. > > Peter Kranz > www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> > Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 > Mobile: 510-207- > pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> >> . > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Building More Datacenters
Lots of private cloud going on. Lots of compute need. Data is huge business. Just some things off the top of my head where I see large data center deployments -Iot. Ag iOT is huge -Smart Cities. Sensors everywhere collecting data -Corporate IT where they need SOCS compliance -Modeling. Anything from trends in human behavior to marketing trends Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net — https://j2sw.com (AS399332) https://blog.j2sw.com - Podcast and Blog > On Jun 22, 2022, at 11:22 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > > More Datacenters keep popping up around the Chicago suburbs. There's already > a $1B Datacenter development going on up by Ohare where they razed several > old office buildings. And today, about 1/2 mile from that, a different > suburb has just a approved a $2.5B Data center development on the old 60 acre > United Airlines campus. 3 buildings at 84MW each. > > You hear about the big cloud providers, Microsoft, Google, AWS, Facebook but > don't they all have their own DC buildings? I understand specialty DC's like > CyrusONE that's specifically for trading. Who's going into all these other > ones? It seems like corporate keeps moving to outsourcing to "the cloud". > Are they hosting their own cloud infrastructures in these private DC's? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Water tower structural engineering
+1 to Josh. Anytime a tower company asks me for a structural engineering I ask them for a copy of the most recent one. I tell them I don’t want to waste my time on fees if it won’t pass as is. I they can’t provide me one I throw it back to them. Why do I want to do structural on something that has never had it done? Usually this can lead to a waiving of the structural costs or getting the company to reimburse the cost of the structural. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net — https://j2sw.com (AS399332) https://blog.j2sw.com - Podcast and Blog > On Apr 8, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > If they have to "keep the same rules for everyone" then by definition the > most recent cell company would have required those drawings. Ask for the > most recent copy. > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 5:40 PM Nate Burke <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote: > I just heard back from one of the engineering companies recommended by a > tower owner, he ballparked $1000-$1500 for the drawings, and $1500 for > the engineering, but said it depends on how much of the drawings are > already done, or if he has to go out and survey the tower and make one. > > On 4/7/2022 4:33 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > I have used a couple different companies. Most of the work cost > > between $700 and $1800 > > > > -Original Message- From: Nate Burke > > Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 1:37 PM > > To: Animal Farm > > Subject: [AFMUG] Water tower structural engineering > > > > Many of you guys are on Municipal water tanks, did you have to have > > drawings/engineering done for your equipment? We have equipment on some > > city water tanks through an acquisition, and the city is requiring us to > > do full drawing/engineering/permits for equipment upgrades even though > > we're only talking about changing some 2' dishes out (UBNT 5ghz to > > licensed), and changing some EPMP1000 sectors to EPMP3000. The Water > > department admits that our stuff is small and won't matter, but since > > there are multiple cell sites on each water tank, they have to keep the > > same rules for everyone, and we don't have enough luck to just 'change > > it and see if they notice' They'll notice. > > > > What type of company do I need to be looking for do to > > drawings/engineering? I found a structural engineering firm, but they > > only take existing drawings/plans and work from them so I need someone > > to do drawings. Ballpark pricing for something like that? > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] HE vs Cogent
As with anything there are good and bad. Both do some heavy traffic manipulation. Cogent is not very open-internet friendly. They do not peer with folks so their entire network is pay to peer. This can result in some congestion at major points. Some of the major de-peering events have been due to AT and others de-peering with cogent because of Cogent wanting money to peer. Most of Hurricane’s network is either Telia Upstream or peering. This can result in some issues as well. There is no such thing as a perfect backbone/upstream/transit provider. They all have issues. What you want it diversity. When talking to them ask about their routes in and out of your location. How much capacity do they have? Are they taking the same routes as everyone else? Many of the xISPs I see do a blend of Cogent, Hurricane and peering on an IX or two. If they want to add some extra diversity they can add in an AT, Verizon, or other ILEC. With peering they typically don’t need to as a lot o the traffic gets shoved off to a good peering fabric. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net — https://j2sw.com (AS399332) https://blog.j2sw.com - Podcast and Blog -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Unauthorized Mikrotik winbox Login made changes
What's new in 6.43rc44 (2018-Jul-11 07:45): MAJOR CHANGES IN v6.43: -- !) api - changed authentication process (https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:API#Initial_login); Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net www.mtin.net www.midwest-ix.com > On Jul 16, 2018, at 10:57 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > > I just happened to be looking through the Logs of a couple Mikrotiks that I > didn't have Winbox Firewalled off From the outside world. Someone from the > outside world logged into winbox today. I had what I 'thought' were strong > passwords on them. The only active service on the router is the Winbox > Service. > > The only changes that were made was they enabled the 'socks' server, and > added input firewall rule for the socks port. They were in and out of the > router in a matter of seconds, so it looks like it was scripted somehow. > > I'm going through now and changing passwords and verifying all routers are > locked from the outside. On the routers that I've found this on, all the > logins were sourced from this same IP Address. So far the affected routers > I've found were running versions 6.39-6.41.3 > > Might be a good time to check your logs and access controls. > > > jul/15 02:29:14 system,info,account user admin logged in from 194.40.240.254 > via winbox > jul/15 02:29:17 system,info,account user admin logged in from 194.40.240.254 > via telnet > jul/15 02:29:18 system,info socks config changed by admin > jul/15 02:29:18 system,info filter rule added by admin > jul/15 02:29:19 system,info,account user admin logged out from 194.40.240.254 > via winbox > jul/15 02:29:19 system,info,account user admin logged out from 194.40.240.254 > via telnet > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing
Our Daily rate varies from $600-2500 a day. $600 is pretty rare. Most of the time it is in the $1000+ range. Factors in the daily rate: 1.Insurance. This is the biggest cost we have on the tower side. Many companies require 3Million in liability, with some now requiring 5 million. 2.Operating crew size. For maintenance and “little” stuff like your PTP 550s we would send out a 2 person crew. Driving distance would be the biggest factor. After that it would depend on if it is a tower where we had to do an official closeout. Crown, American, etc. require paperwork if we are even certified to go on their towers. We mainly stick with American these days out of the big ones for new stuff. The amount of stuff required to bolt stuff to a Crown tower is nutty. This could be the reason for such a high cost is if it’s Crown or SBA and it’s a “certified construction crew” or whatever it is called. These are the crews who do Cellular and roll a full 3-4 person crew. We don’t touch Crown or SBA for new stuff due to many factors. The last crew we had come in was $3500 a day for Crown Work. If it was a tower we would do the work on we would bid that job at $800-1200 depending on distance. That is assuming you have the proper mounts, you supply the cable, and things were in place ahead of time (gate codes, keys, Notice to proceed, etc.). If everything is in place and everything bench tested I would plan on a day to get it done at 100’ on both ends. My .02 Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net www.mtin.net www.midwest-ix.com > On Jul 2, 2018, at 9:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I have a pair of PTP550s to hang and wire. > Long away from my base of operations. About 100’ up on both ends. > > Have received two quotes to hang and aim: > $5000 > > $8000 ($14,000 if it goes to 2 days) > > Not sure why they think this needs 4 guys to do. > I am too old to do it myself, just don’t have the leg strength/endurance to > be safe. > > 10x the cost of the radios to hang and aim??? > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
