[AFMUG] Cambium's new 802.11ax ePMP PTP solution, the ePMP Force 400 Series -- 1GBps PTP

[Lincs_Chel]

Hi Josh;

I am not sure if it is you that Cambium was referring to in their 
Webinar introducing the new ePMP Force 400 series PTP, but if it is, can 
you speak about the performance and any other experiences with 
reference  in regards to this.


Or if anyone else have experiences so far with this new series.

Thanks,


Lincs


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[AFMUG] WiFi / Mesh WiFi for small city / municipality

[Lincs_Chel]

Hi;

Anyone did a small city WiFi / WiFi Mesh project for a small town / 
city.   To provide free WiFi zones for the public for the city.


Any products or WiFi controllers researched or used?

Lincoln


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Re: [AFMUG] Rack Mount Surge Protectors

[Lincs_Chel]

Hi Chuck;

Good products.  I see you have new surge protector PCB.  But none in 
stock. Always hard to come by.  When do you expect stock?  For 
Streakwave to ship?


What are the differences between these:-

   PN: 800-CAT6-SS-PCB

   PN: 800-CAT6-600SS-PCB

   PN: 800-GIGE-SS-HV-PCB


In particular for protecting the Cambium ePMP series AP and SM series. 
Also, will any of these protect the PMP100 series APs. Still have a few 
in the field.



Lincoln



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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rack Mount Surge Protectors

Thank you Chuck, for reminding me why we are all here.

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Re: [AFMUG] UV Resistant Label Machine

[Lincs_Chel]

Hi;

Both the Heat Shrink and the IND Flexible Nylon labels are UV rated 
(according to the Dymo specs).



Industrial-strength tear-proof adhesive resists moisture, extreme
temperatures, UV light and more so labels won't curl or fall off
- UL recognized as a component to UL 969

   
https://www.dymo.com/en-US/view-all-labels/rhino-ind-labels/ind-flexible-nylon-labels-1-in


However, I have used both the 18mm & 24mm, Black on White versions, and 
they did fade to almost 'invisible'.  Not sure if the colours matter for 
better longevity results.


LH


On 18/02/2020 2:33 AM, Jason Wilson wrote:

I use the heat shrink stock for the rhinos. They are UV listed.

http://www.dymo.com/en-US/ind-heat-shrink-tube-1-4-in

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 9:11 PM Lincs_Chel <mailto:lhan...@enc-tech.com>> wrote:


Hi;

I have found the same issue.  The Dymo Rhino labels (vinyl series),
don't stay as long as the Brother TZ-Ez (flexible) series. What I
tend
to do now is to place the labels at multiple points on the cables
that
is exposed to the sun.  I use labels from both manufacturers on
the same
cable.

Masking tape and a Sharpie holds up well.  So we label with this
during
installation and use the electronic labels (Brother and Dymo
Rhino) for
pretty.

Really disappointed with the Rhino series however.  They really
fade and
sometimes they tend to peel (doesn't stay wrapped securely around the
cable).  The writings almost entirely not legible.  For indoor use
they
do a better job.

Note, I have only used the Black on White labels.  Not sure how the
other colours will stay legible for the extended periods of time
exposed
to the outdoor elements.

Looks like we now have to plan to do a regular maintenance
exercise to
re-label the cables every couple years (or 18-months or so).

If anyone finds or has suggestion for a good UV rated label system
(either with Brother / Dymo) would really be great.

LH


On 17/02/2020 12:19 PM, Matt wrote:
> We use cheap DYMO label machines to label cat-5 tower runs etc.
> Within 6 months you cannot read the labels used outdoors but you
> usually do not need too.  Does anyone know of outdoor UV resistant
> cartridges for them or for any label machine?
>


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Re: [AFMUG] UV Resistant Label Machine

[Lincs_Chel]

Hi Matt;

I use either the 19mm (3/4in) and the 24mm (1in) sizes for the Dymo 
flexible series.  Depends how you want to wrap the cable. But both sizes 
work well for CAT5 cable (outdoor, STP and UTP).


The amount of info you wish to be printed will dictate the size. I found 
the smaller fonts don't print well on the Dymo RHINO series.  For the 
Brother TZ tapes, the 24mm and 18mm are the equivalent sizes that work 
well with the CAT5 cables.


If you wrap in portrait mode. Either size will work.  If you wrap in 
landscape mode, (need more characters to display), the 24mm will work 
better.  As it will fold around the cable (and possibly overlap) fully.


In either case, the flexible series is better for the CAT5 cables.

LH


On 18/02/2020 10:30 AM, Matt wrote:


I use the heat shrink stock for the rhinos. They are UV listed.

http://www.dymo.com/en-US/ind-heat-shrink-tube-1-4-in



>>>Choose from 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", 3/4" and 1" label widths

What size do you need for outdoor shielded cat-5?






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Re: [AFMUG] UV Resistant Label Machine

[Lincs_Chel]

Hi;

I have found the same issue.  The Dymo Rhino labels (vinyl series), 
don't stay as long as the Brother TZ-Ez (flexible) series.  What I tend 
to do now is to place the labels at multiple points on the cables that 
is exposed to the sun.  I use labels from both manufacturers on the same 
cable.


Masking tape and a Sharpie holds up well.  So we label with this during 
installation and use the electronic labels (Brother and Dymo Rhino) for 
pretty.


Really disappointed with the Rhino series however.  They really fade and 
sometimes they tend to peel (doesn't stay wrapped securely around the 
cable).  The writings almost entirely not legible.  For indoor use they 
do a better job.


Note, I have only used the Black on White labels.  Not sure how the 
other colours will stay legible for the extended periods of time exposed 
to the outdoor elements.


Looks like we now have to plan to do a regular maintenance exercise to 
re-label the cables every couple years (or 18-months or so).


If anyone finds or has suggestion for a good UV rated label system 
(either with Brother / Dymo) would really be great.


LH


On 17/02/2020 12:19 PM, Matt wrote:

We use cheap DYMO label machines to label cat-5 tower runs etc.
Within 6 months you cannot read the labels used outdoors but you
usually do not need too.  Does anyone know of outdoor UV resistant
cartridges for them or for any label machine?




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Re: [AFMUG] Basic Tower Mount 6 Inch - 800-M-TOW-6

[Lincs_chel]

Hi Chuck;

OK.  Thanks very much.

Lincoln


On 23/01/2020 11:12 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

They all do...
It depends on which holes you use for the bolts.
*From:* Lincs_chel
*Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 7:10 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Basic Tower Mount 6 Inch - 800-M-TOW-6
Hi Chuck;

Which one is correct or which one would be received if ordered with 
this P/N: 800-M-TOW-6?


  * https://www.mccowntech.com/product/basic-tower-mount-6-inch/
 o
  o This one appears not to have any down/up tile capability. 
Though the specs says that it does.
  * https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=M-TOW-6
  o 800-M-TOW-6

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[AFMUG] Basic Tower Mount 6 Inch - 800-M-TOW-6

[Lincs_chel]

Hi Chuck;

Which one is correct or which one would be received if ordered with this 
P/N: 800-M-TOW-6?


 * https://www.mccowntech.com/product/basic-tower-mount-6-inch/
 o
 o This one appears not to have any down/up tile capability. Though
   the specs says that it does.
 * https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=M-TOW-6
 o 800-M-TOW-6

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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

[Lincs_chel]

Hi Matt;

Curious as to why purchase and then 'discard' a bunch of the ePMP 3000 
units?   In particular, this Cambium series.  Just seems odd that 
Cambium have not been able to assist and provide a reasonable working 
solution (until a permanent fix I guess) can be done.  I have found 
Cambium's support both directly and indirectly (through their forums) to 
be very good.  And with this being their newest, shiny product, one 
would think that they would really want to be working to resolve these 
glaring problems with yourself. Considering that you have so many units 
ready to deploy and/or deployed it just seems odd that you'll are being 
left high and dry in the wind.  (Though this may not actually be the 
case).  You didn't follow-up with anything positive from your current 
experience with the ePMP 3000 series.  So I am concluding that things 
are still bad.


That's alot a money just burning a hole/s in your pockets if it giving 
so many problems.   Wish we had that type of CAPEX to tap into and use.


I do hope that you'll are able to get the issue resolved and kindly 
share with the community when and if it got resolved (either here and/or 
the Cambium ePMP 3000 forums).  Sorry you'll had to be the guinea pigs 
in this case.


LH



On 22/01/2020 12:49 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
I purchased a bunch of ePMP3000 (not L) and have honestly had nothing 
but issues with them since trying to deploy... including multiple 
instances at multiple sites with the inability to get Gig to link... 
but at the office it's fine... swap to a Ubiquiti AC radio and it's a 
Gig on the tower.


Out of curiosity what temperature are you at wherever you are right now?

On 1/22/20 12:46 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
On the first unit we tried yeah.  GigE worked in the office, but on 
the tower it would only run at 100BaseT.  Our guys fought with it for 
a couple of days. Brought it back to the office and it did a gig in 
the office no problem.  I assume it's related to the cable length, 
but maybe some other factor matters.  The switch at the tower was a 
Mikrotik CRS 2xx of some type.  Not sure if that matters.


In any case, the second unit we plugged in at the tower went right to 
a gig no problem.except that one died today after being in the 
air for 4 days.


Maybe I just rolled snake eyes or something, but it has me wondering 
about reliability.


The price and feature set is right so I had big plans for these. I 
probably won't try them again unless something changes.


-Adam


On 1/22/2020 12:39 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
WAIT WAIT WAIT You ALSO are having issues linking at Gigabit? 
That's interesting, because myself and someone else are also having 
this issue and Cambium has sworn until they are blue in the face 
there is no issue.


On 1/22/20 11:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

So I tried an ePMP 3000L.

Real world performance is ultimately about the same as ePMP 2000. 
QoS doesn't work properly.  SM was re registering with a pretty 
minimal amount of noise.  I had 27 DL SNR and 17 UL SNR on a DFS 
band..it's not going to get a lot better than that where I am. 
Not in real life anyway.


First AP wouldn't link at 1Gig on a long cable (but would on a 
short cable).  Tried a second AP and that one worked at 1Gig, but 
then died 4 days later.


I got a lot of mileage out of the ePMP 2000 and the PMP450, but 
this new product does not currently impress.   It's sort of a 
little bit shitty in fact.


Maybe they'll bake out some of the issues later.








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[AFMUG] MAXtream

[Lincs_Chel]

Hi;

Anyone seen this stuff and possibly using it?   How does it compare / 
compete with Ubiquiti and Cambium's ePMP.    No GPS synch however.  
Seems like it will be better than Mikrotik's TDMA version Nv2.   I do 
like their presentation on the webpage.  Nice graphics.


https://www.tp-link.com/common/Promo/en/MAXtream/index.html

https://www.tp-link.com/en/business-networking/outdoor-radio/


LH

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Re: [AFMUG] Industrial or Outdoor Ethernet switches

[Lincs_Chel]

Hi Daniel;

Thanks for the suggestion.  That really looks like a possible 
solution.   Do you know if this require some controller or can operate 
standalone.  As I figure Ubiquiti Unifi series requires some type of 
cloud-based or on-premise controller or something.


Linc


On 06/11/2019 3:06 PM, Daniel White wrote:

I've never used these but I would give them a try for this application:

https://www.ui.com/unifi-switching/unifi-switch-flex/

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Lincs_Chel wrote on 11/5/19 23:22:

Hi;

Working on a project that requires the use of a couple 4-port 
(minimum) switches to be installed outdoors.  Kindly note that these 
won't be in any snow and/or ice cold environment.  Think Florida and 
more specifically South Florida type weather conditions.


Some may have an opportunity to be installed inside at the bottom of 
the lamp post.   The cavities inside (at the bottom) are large enough 
to hold a basic 4-8 port switch.   Some may need to be mounted in a 
NEMA4 enclosure.


Additional Options:-

    1) both PoE and non-POE would be great.
    2) SNMP or management
    3) AC or POE powered.
    4) Don't need fibre.  This will only be a CAT5/CAT6 copper based 
solution.


In one of the runs, I will need to uplink or connect at least three 
(3) in series.  So, if it is powered via POE, then it will also need 
to provide POE for the next switch in series.


Any suggestions.

Regards.

LH








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[AFMUG] Industrial or Outdoor Ethernet switches

[Lincs_Chel]

Hi;

Working on a project that requires the use of a couple 4-port (minimum) 
switches to be installed outdoors.  Kindly note that these won't be in 
any snow and/or ice cold environment.  Think Florida and more 
specifically South Florida type weather conditions.


Some may have an opportunity to be installed inside at the bottom of the 
lamp post.   The cavities inside (at the bottom) are large enough to 
hold a basic 4-8 port switch.   Some may need to be mounted in a NEMA4 
enclosure.


Additional Options:-

    1) both PoE and non-POE would be great.
    2) SNMP or management
    3) AC or POE powered.
    4) Don't need fibre.  This will only be a CAT5/CAT6 copper based 
solution.


In one of the runs, I will need to uplink or connect at least three (3) 
in series.  So, if it is powered via POE, then it will also need to 
provide POE for the next switch in series.


Any suggestions.

Regards.

LH


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