Re: [AFMUG] Trango Link 45 firmware?

[Shayne Lebrun]

No, because those links don’t go to firmware files but to squatter domains.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:14 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Link 45 firmware?

 

Do the files linked in this page work for you?  
https://support.gotrango.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/214334083-Firmware-Downloads-TrangoLink-45

 

 

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 9:03 AM Shayne Lebrun  wrote:

I don’t suppose anybody happens to have firmware for a Trango Link45 lying 
around?

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Re: [AFMUG] Trango Link 45 firmware?

[Shayne Lebrun]

I intend to, but in the meantime, I was hoping a firmware reload would fix a 
problem with an existing link.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of 
can...@believewireless.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 10:46 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Link 45 firmware?

 

Why not just swap with with something modern?

 

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:03 AM Shayne Lebrun  wrote:

I don’t suppose anybody happens to have firmware for a Trango Link45 lying 
around?

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[AFMUG] Trango Link 45 firmware?

[Shayne Lebrun]

I don't suppose anybody happens to have firmware for a Trango Link45 lying
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Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

[Shayne Lebrun]

Mimosa backhaul radios do something like this; they both have GPS, and if
they're talking at all, they figure out bearing to each other and give you
compass bearing.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 6:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

 

Someday I am going to build some of my ideas for this.

 

If you put a GPS antenna away from the tower and one on the tower, the long
baseline will let you know the bearing between the two with great accuracy.
They could talk and let the tower unit know what the azimuth of the line
between them is.

 

Then you could aim a scope with an angular encoder at the ground unit, or it
could have a strobe light with a omni lens camera on the tower to let it
know where it is.  I even considered dopplar UHF antennas on the tower to
get the position of the ground unit.

 

Then it is a simple thing to know which direction you are aiming.  Properly
done it could be a $300 item instead of a $3000-$5000 item.  Just not sure
which method to use to get the relative direction of the ground unit...

 

A small rifle scope on an encoder would work really well.  

 

From: Tushar Patel 

Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 4:41 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

 

Time has come for us to get a little more accuracy on our sector antennas.

 

Any input on the following product?

 

http://www.multiwavesensors.com/antenna-alignment/

 

 

Tushar

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Re: [AFMUG] 450SM command line syntax

[Shayne Lebrun]

Turn on web proxy on the Mikrotik, set your browser's proxy address to the
mikrotik, and web in.  Turn off proxy on mikrotik when done.

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 1:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450SM command line syntax

No, the SM isn't associated, and I'm only able to telnet to it from the 
Mikrotik that it's plugged into which I still have access to via a 
different path.  So without setting up a tunnel, I can't get HTTP to it 
without going on site.

On 3/13/2020 12:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> You can't even get to the GUI via the AP web proxy?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 11:52 AM
> To: Animal Farm 
> Subject: [AFMUG] 450SM command line syntax
>
> I have a 450SM that because of some network reasons, I can only telnet to.
> Is there a way to run an APEval from the command line and/or Change the
> color code?  I didn't see it listed in the 'help' option.
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[AFMUG] 450m 365 sync

[Shayne Lebrun]

What are the various options for providing sync to a 3.65 450M?  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

[Shayne Lebrun]

A 'cynic' is what an optimist calls a realist.

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 1:33 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

I used to think I was a cynic.  Some people are an order of magnitude 
more cynical than me.


On 2/10/2020 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> I am naturally an optimist and not a cynic.  So I essentially ignore all that 
> stuff.  Life is too short.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>
>> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
>> "conspiracy".
>>
>> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the whole 
>> picture of what happened until more time passes.  In the interim there's a 
>> lot of conflicting information going around. People latch onto early bits of 
>> information that turn out to be wrong and they won't let go of them.
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I mean that 
>> one's obviously a joke.right?)
>>
>> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
>>
>> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or maybe 
>> they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all information so 
>> they're reporting what they think is true at the time it's said, or maybe 
>> rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>>
>> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>>>
>>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>>>
>>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
>>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel Coronavirus 
>>> appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not particularly deadly.
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] The Future

[Shayne Lebrun]

I always liked the opposite.  Tell them that they're using all of their 
bandwidth, and the answer is 'nobody is using the Internet! So-and-so is just 
watching TV!'

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 1:22 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future

I love the my internet is not working but netflix is working
Takes some folks a bit for that to soak in.

-Original Message- 
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 11:11 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future

Yeah, Netflix ability to switch video quality / stream rate on the fly is 
actually pretty awesome.  I know we all used to bitch about Netflix, but now 
I actually hold it up as the gold standard.  Does Netflix work?  OK, your 
Internet works.  If flavor of the week streaming service doesn't work as 
good as Netflix, well, there you go.

I also like that Netflix traffic is usually identifiable because an rDNS 
lookup on the IP address returns something.ntflxvideo.net rather than some 
anonymous CDN or nothing at all.  So if you are torching a customer's 
traffic to tell him what is maxing out his connection, it takes just a few 
seconds to say it's Netflix.


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 12:04 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future

A few years ago, I did some testing with Netflix. I found that it would 
"function" down to just under 700 Kbps. For SD quality, about double that, 
or 1.5 Mbps. For HD, you needed a bit more than double that, or about 3 
Mbps.

I did some more recent tests with Prime. It would consume 5-10 Mbps if you 
let it, but I found that it would "function" down to about 2 Mbps.
This function was roughly the same as Netflix SD quality.

I periodically throttle all of them, just to see what the effects will be. 
To date, Netflix does the best, and is even able to switch CODECs mid-stream 
most of the time. The rest, not so much.


bp


On 1/24/2020 9:37 AM, Robert Andrews wrote:
> That's basically what I tell all my RV friends that are on the road
> complaining about streaming.   Solves most of their problems at all
> the weird places...
>
> On 01/23/2020 01:17 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>> Yeah, last I looked that's what they said the lowest quality needed.
>> A few years back I did some testing with various speeds, and I think
>> I got down to somewhere around 500k before Netflix would break. But
>> even then, the picture quality was getting pretty ugly.
>>
>> But seriously... if Netflix defaulted to lower quality (not lowest,
>> but in the middle), and made you set it higher if you wanted, most
>> people would never know or care... and it'd save a lot of bandwidth.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:14 PM Adam Moffett > > wrote:
>>
>> I'm pretty sure the lowest quality level on Netflix needs 0.7
>> mbps. If your rule ended up giving them 256k+512k then it would
>> have worked.
>>
>>
>> On 1/23/2020 4:10 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> Way back in the day, when powercode had the old type queue, we
>>> built our basic one to buffer at 512 long enough to maintain a 2
>>> hour sd stream at 256k with periodic 512k bucket refills. so
>>> really it was 512k effectively. It may very vell be that
>>> expectations of "standard" definition were different back then.
>>> but I thought that was an actual resolution standard
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 2:58 PM Ken Hohhof >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I don’t remember ever being able to stream Netflix on 256K.
>>> 1M maybe, and 1.5M still gives you decent SD. You’re going
>>> to
>>> need at least 2.5M though for HD.  So that’s one part of the
>>> answer is HD. Some streaming services, like DirecTV On
>>> Demand,
>>> don’t have adaptive video quality and want a minimum of 5M
>>> to
>>> stream.  Another factor is “live” video, which is compressed
>>> on-the-fly and probably not as efficiently as pre-recorded
>>> content.
>>>
>>> Of course, if the customer has more, video streams will
>>> happily use it.
>>>
>>> *From:* AF >> > *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:29 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> >
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The Future
>>>
>>> we are at the end of the wireless backhaul road. when I
>>> started 15 or so years ago, we were just moving off a
>>> handdful of random T1s to a bonded 6mb circuit backhauling
>>> that was nothing. Now we have two gig circuits on separate
>>> parts of our network, and we are a tiny WISP in podunk USA..
>>> We dont put less than 1.2gbps backhauls in 

Re: [AFMUG] Why hasn't there been a radio-antenna waveguide standard?

[Shayne Lebrun]

https://xkcd.com/927/

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 4:57 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Why hasn't there been a radio-antenna waveguide standard?

 

Probably more a question for Chuck then anyone else.

 

There's (ignoring frequency-related size) at least a dozen 
  waveguide connector 
standards to interface radios with antennas... when buying a licensed backhaul 
radio, pretty much every physical and software interface on the unit conforms 
to a standard, except the antenna interface. But it seems that a physical-only 
interface like that would be the easiest to standardize. Any idea why that has 
never happened in the industry?

 

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