Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
Our guy has been putting up 12 strand armored 250 foor preterm that he had left over. Using residential enclosures and resplicing to length at the botton. gives us 4 APs and tow backhauls potential On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 10:55 AM Carl Peterson wrote: > We've just started using Clearfield pre-made pushable or strong fiber > spools pulled through 10/6 duct up to the radio. We use BiDi so just one > strand but if you wanted a feed to a tower top they could make you MPO > cables that you could route to a YourX terminal up top through 14/10. > > I wish someone made a 10/6 duct with copper conductors on the outside of > it. Like Clearfield > s toneable 10/6 except with two larger conductors under the outer wrap > instead of the single small tone wire. Would be perfect for Siklu instals > as you could run the duct right into their long connector and split off the > conductors to power the radio. > > On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 9:21 AM dave wrote: > >> We use Bestronics custom hybrid cable pre-terminated armor direct bury >> type. Has 1 pair 12awg stranded and 2 pair SM or MM strands. Been doing it >> for a while with no issues. >> >> Just did 250 full medusa install with DDB cabinet topside for all >> terminations to go. >> >> >> On 12/20/18 2:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: >> >> What are people using for Fiber up the tower? >> >> >> >> We are looking for Single mode 4 strand – 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 >> foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. >> >> >> >> Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? >> >> >> >> Where are people getting theirs made? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Adam >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > > -- > > Carl Peterson > > *PORT NETWORKS* > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
We've just started using Clearfield pre-made pushable or strong fiber spools pulled through 10/6 duct up to the radio. We use BiDi so just one strand but if you wanted a feed to a tower top they could make you MPO cables that you could route to a YourX terminal up top through 14/10. I wish someone made a 10/6 duct with copper conductors on the outside of it. Like Clearfield s toneable 10/6 except with two larger conductors under the outer wrap instead of the single small tone wire. Would be perfect for Siklu instals as you could run the duct right into their long connector and split off the conductors to power the radio. On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 9:21 AM dave wrote: > We use Bestronics custom hybrid cable pre-terminated armor direct bury > type. Has 1 pair 12awg stranded and 2 pair SM or MM strands. Been doing it > for a while with no issues. > > Just did 250 full medusa install with DDB cabinet topside for all > terminations to go. > > > On 12/20/18 2:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > > What are people using for Fiber up the tower? > > > > We are looking for Single mode 4 strand – 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 > foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. > > > > Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? > > > > Where are people getting theirs made? > > > > Thanks > > > > Adam > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
We use Bestronics custom hybrid cable pre-terminated armor direct bury type. Has 1 pair 12awg stranded and 2 pair SM or MM strands. Been doing it for a while with no issues. Just did 250 full medusa install with DDB cabinet topside for all terminations to go. On 12/20/18 2:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: What are people using for Fiber up the tower? We are looking for Single mode 4 strand – 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? Where are people getting theirs made? Thanks Adam -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
We just the splice the ends on to it. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 9:00 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower Andy, Mind sharing exactly what tools you use to terminate ends on this cable? We have always ordered pre-made cables, but we're interested in starting to terminate our own. We have a spool of this same cable just sitting there doing nothing at the moment. Thanks, Josh On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 8:46 AM Andy Trimmell wrote: https://www.balticnetworks.com/shireen-sm-fiber-power-triamese-cable-1000ft-spool.html This is what we’ve been using. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:52 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower I got some custom assemblies from Fiber Instrument Sales. It was a "core locked" fiber, which basically means the glass is buried in an a lot of plastic. We only got one LC duplex on each end, but I bet they could have done 2. The lead time wasn't terribly long. On 12/20/2018 3:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: What are people using for Fiber up the tower? We are looking for Single mode 4 strand – 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? Where are people getting theirs made? Thanks Adam -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
Andy, Mind sharing exactly what tools you use to terminate ends on this cable? We have always ordered pre-made cables, but we're interested in starting to terminate our own. We have a spool of this same cable just sitting there doing nothing at the moment. Thanks, Josh On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 8:46 AM Andy Trimmell wrote: > > https://www.balticnetworks.com/shireen-sm-fiber-power-triamese-cable-1000ft-spool.html > > This is what we’ve been using. > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:52 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower > > > > I got some custom assemblies from Fiber Instrument Sales. It was a "core > locked" fiber, which basically means the glass is buried in an a lot of > plastic. We only got one LC duplex on each end, but I bet they could have > done 2. > > The lead time wasn't terribly long. > > On 12/20/2018 3:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > > What are people using for Fiber up the tower? > > > > We are looking for Single mode 4 strand – 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 > foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. > > > > Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? > > > > Where are people getting theirs made? > > > > Thanks > > > > Adam > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
https://www.balticnetworks.com/shireen-sm-fiber-power-triamese-cable-100 0ft-spool.html This is what we've been using. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:52 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower I got some custom assemblies from Fiber Instrument Sales. It was a "core locked" fiber, which basically means the glass is buried in an a lot of plastic. We only got one LC duplex on each end, but I bet they could have done 2. The lead time wasn't terribly long. On 12/20/2018 3:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: What are people using for Fiber up the tower? We are looking for Single mode 4 strand - 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? Where are people getting theirs made? Thanks Adam -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
Shipping is a little steep, I think I pay about $60 for the shipping. I have not touched or used the Cambium fiber cables yet, but they are very cost competitive. And supposedly built to plug directly into an 820 radio. I'm going to be getting some shortly. SM Duplex LC/LC N82L139ASM 30m N82L140ASM 50m N82L141ASM 80m N82L142ASM 100m On 12/20/2018 2:30 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: OK good info. We had had them quote for the Military Armored cable, but the shipping was going to be $590.. When I asked why they told us it is very heavy. *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 12:21 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower Item 29606, Customized 4 Fibers Indoor/Outdoor Single Mode Pre-Terminated Assembly, 2.0mm Breakout Cable. You can select a custom length. It's not a super heavy cable fiber, so I don't think suspension would be a problem, but it also didn't feel flimsy like the UBNT "tough fiber". We've run them vertically on 100'+ grain legs without a problem. I put pulling eyes on both ends just to help with installation, helps protect the ends as you unspool. On 12/20/2018 2:10 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: Hi Nate We are looking at the fiber store, which cable did you choose? These will be hanging 100 feet… Adam *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 12:07 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower I've been getting mine custom made from Fiber Store. Only problem is about a 30 day lead time. https://www.fs.com/products/29606.html Used it on several sites and haven't had a problem with it. Nate On 12/20/2018 2:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: What are people using for Fiber up the tower? We are looking for Single mode 4 strand – 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? Where are people getting theirs made? Thanks Adam -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
OK good info. We had had them quote for the Military Armored cable, but the shipping was going to be $590.. When I asked why they told us it is very heavy. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 12:21 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower Item 29606, Customized 4 Fibers Indoor/Outdoor Single Mode Pre-Terminated Assembly, 2.0mm Breakout Cable. You can select a custom length. It's not a super heavy cable fiber, so I don't think suspension would be a problem, but it also didn't feel flimsy like the UBNT "tough fiber". We've run them vertically on 100'+ grain legs without a problem. I put pulling eyes on both ends just to help with installation, helps protect the ends as you unspool. On 12/20/2018 2:10 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: Hi Nate We are looking at the fiber store, which cable did you choose? These will be hanging 100 feet. Adam From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 12:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower I've been getting mine custom made from Fiber Store. Only problem is about a 30 day lead time. https://www.fs.com/products/29606.html Used it on several sites and haven't had a problem with it. Nate On 12/20/2018 2:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: What are people using for Fiber up the tower? We are looking for Single mode 4 strand - 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? Where are people getting theirs made? Thanks Adam -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
It would be great if they sold hybrid fiber/DC custom cables. On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 3:22 PM Nate Burke wrote: > Item 29606, Customized 4 Fibers Indoor/Outdoor Single Mode Pre-Terminated > Assembly, 2.0mm Breakout Cable. You can select a custom length. It's not > a super heavy cable fiber, so I don't think suspension would be a problem, > but it also didn't feel flimsy like the UBNT "tough fiber". We've run them > vertically on 100'+ grain legs without a problem. I put pulling eyes on > both ends just to help with installation, helps protect the ends as you > unspool. > > On 12/20/2018 2:10 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > > Hi Nate > > > > We are looking at the fiber store, which cable did you choose? These > will be hanging 100 feet… > > > > Adam > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Nate Burke > *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 12:07 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower > > > > I've been getting mine custom made from Fiber Store. Only problem is > about a 30 day lead time. https://www.fs.com/products/29606.html Used > it on several sites and haven't had a problem with it. > > Nate > > On 12/20/2018 2:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > > What are people using for Fiber up the tower? > > > > We are looking for Single mode 4 strand – 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 > foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. > > > > Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? > > > > Where are people getting theirs made? > > > > Thanks > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
We have been getting ours from Bestronics (2 SM/MM, 2 14AWG DC). On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 3:03 PM SmarterBroadband wrote: > What are people using for Fiber up the tower? > > > > We are looking for Single mode 4 strand – 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 > foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. > > > > Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? > > > > Where are people getting theirs made? > > > > Thanks > > > > Adam > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
Item 29606, Customized 4 Fibers Indoor/Outdoor Single Mode Pre-Terminated Assembly, 2.0mm Breakout Cable. You can select a custom length. It's not a super heavy cable fiber, so I don't think suspension would be a problem, but it also didn't feel flimsy like the UBNT "tough fiber". We've run them vertically on 100'+ grain legs without a problem. I put pulling eyes on both ends just to help with installation, helps protect the ends as you unspool. On 12/20/2018 2:10 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: Hi Nate We are looking at the fiber store, which cable did you choose? These will be hanging 100 feet… Adam *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 12:07 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower I've been getting mine custom made from Fiber Store. Only problem is about a 30 day lead time. https://www.fs.com/products/29606.html Used it on several sites and haven't had a problem with it. Nate On 12/20/2018 2:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: What are people using for Fiber up the tower? We are looking for Single mode 4 strand – 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? Where are people getting theirs made? Thanks Adam -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
Hi Nate We are looking at the fiber store, which cable did you choose? These will be hanging 100 feet. Adam From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 12:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower I've been getting mine custom made from Fiber Store. Only problem is about a 30 day lead time. https://www.fs.com/products/29606.html Used it on several sites and haven't had a problem with it. Nate On 12/20/2018 2:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: What are people using for Fiber up the tower? We are looking for Single mode 4 strand - 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? Where are people getting theirs made? Thanks Adam -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
I've been getting mine custom made from Fiber Store. Only problem is about a 30 day lead time. https://www.fs.com/products/29606.html Used it on several sites and haven't had a problem with it. Nate On 12/20/2018 2:02 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: What are people using for Fiber up the tower? We are looking for Single mode 4 strand – 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? Where are people getting theirs made? Thanks Adam -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] Fiber up the tower
What are people using for Fiber up the tower? We are looking for Single mode 4 strand - 2 LC Duplex at each end. 140 foot lengths. They will be run up inside a monopole. Are you using armored? Outdoor? What? Where are people getting theirs made? Thanks Adam -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
