Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-05-01 Thread Joe Novak
wait, what?! lol. Are we sure we're not in a episode in south park about
getting high with cats?

My gripe with the old aircams is we had to replace all of them due to
rebooting/locking up/generally not working. The office only has 12-15
cameras or something like that, and over half of them had died in a few
years. We pulled and replaced with whatever generation of UBNT cameras now,
they have been great so far going on almost a year. If we didn't go with
UBNT we probably would have used one of the other big camera vendors and
had been happy too, but I'm pretty sure their IP cameras are a bit more of
a premium then UBNTs.

It doesn't look like UBNT has a per camera permission level though on the
NVR. The other problem is there was some question about the direction of
their NVR platform going forward, I dunno how that all ended up. Last I
heard UNIFI protect was a fork of the NVR platform, and there was questions
about what was going to happen to the self hosted NVR.


On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 9:32 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> I just bought 6 older model aircams and run the ubnt local server thing,
> or rather will, its running on my laptop and the cameras are pointing at my
> sons door in the basement, caught him electorcuting himself with the dogs
> shock collar
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 3:16 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> they say 2 years but i wouldn't count on that if its in a high traffic
>> area.
>>
>> if the camera isn't recording much then it'd probably last 2 years
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:39 AM SmarterBroadband  wrote:
>>
>>> How long do the batteries actually last?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2019 3:43 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
>>> Have customers asking too.
>>>
>>> What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but I see
>>> no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
>>> without sharing them all.
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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-05-01 Thread Steve Jones
I just bought 6 older model aircams and run the ubnt local server thing, or
rather will, its running on my laptop and the cameras are pointing at my
sons door in the basement, caught him electorcuting himself with the dogs
shock collar


On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 3:16 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> they say 2 years but i wouldn't count on that if its in a high traffic
> area.
>
> if the camera isn't recording much then it'd probably last 2 years
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:39 AM SmarterBroadband  wrote:
>
>> How long do the batteries actually last?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2019 3:43 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras
>>
>>
>>
>> I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt  wrote:
>>
>> Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
>> Have customers asking too.
>>
>> What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but I see
>> no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
>> without sharing them all.
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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-29 Thread Sean Heskett
they say 2 years but i wouldn't count on that if its in a high traffic area.

if the camera isn't recording much then it'd probably last 2 years

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:39 AM SmarterBroadband  wrote:

> How long do the batteries actually last?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2019 3:43 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras
>
>
>
> I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt  wrote:
>
> Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
> Have customers asking too.
>
> What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but I see
> no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
> without sharing them all.
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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-29 Thread SmarterBroadband
How long do the batteries actually last?

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 3:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

 

I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.

 

-Sean

 

 

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
Have customers asking too.

What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but I see
no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
without sharing them all.

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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-29 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF


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From: AF  on behalf of Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 8:07:45 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

The Nest cams seem to use less bandwidth, around 200 kbps per cam although I 
think you can change the video resolution setting, but they typically stream to 
the cloud DVR constantly.  And since they get put inside, rather than just at 
the front door, people tend to install a bunch of them, 5 is not uncommon, so 
even at 200 kbps per cam now you have 1 Mbps upstream.

The WiFi problem seems to be common to all these WiFi cameras.  I need to hire 
someone to explain the "sticking cheap little WiFi things with poor antennas 
everywhere and expecting them to work automagically" problem to customers 
because I'm losing patience and fear I will start biting heads off.  I notice 
that customers who actually hire a security camera company seem to end up with 
wired cameras.  Although ADT seems to install WiFi cameras.  So all burglars 
need to do is bring a WiFi jammer?  Maybe it comes down to security cameras 
bill for parts and labor while ADT has a fixed price and wants to minimize 
their labor?  More likely the local security camera guy is used to setting up 
businesses and takes a more robust approach.  I wonder when the police get the 
security camera footage from businesses near a crime, how many are "in the 
cloud" over the Internet or on someone's cellphone, and how many are stored 
locally?  Given that stores, banks, warehouses,  etc. may have dozens of 
cameras, I would think local storage starts to be more logical than streaming 
it all to cloud storage?  Or maybe they don't want thieves to steal the hard 
drive from the security system?  I would hope that's in a locked room.


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 12:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

They only use the bandwidth when they are motion triggered which was a
large part when I am using them.   The majority of the issues we see
with people are because it is placed outside of a good wifi signal.

On 4/27/19 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> I don't have personal experience, but I have found customers with Ring 
> doorbells to be high maintenance customers.  They complain about a lag of a 
> few seconds in triggering video to their phone, which somehow they think must 
> be an Internet problem.  The Ring doorbells also seem to need a lot of 
> upstream bandwidth, like >1 Mbps per camera, so that people with more than 
> one of them can max out the upstream on their Internet connection.  I'm not 
> sure why you need to see the UPS guy's butt walking away from your door in 
> 1080p high def.  Maybe this is based on earlier generations of the Ring 
> product and they have improved.  One customer recently reported that the 
> police had caught a burglar based on license plate info from a neighbor's 
> Ring doorbell, so maybe that is more of a "ringing" endorsement.
>
> Chuck probably has FTTH, so upstream bandwidth may not be a scarce commodity.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 11:54 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras
>
> So I will put that in the “less than ringing endorsement” column.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 27, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
>>
>> I'm using ring, but the website support is marginal..
>>
>>> On 04/27/2019 08:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> I want one of the front door door bell cameras.  Just have not picked one.  
>>> Any recommendations for that?
>>> *From:* Matt
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:25 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
The Nest cams seem to use less bandwidth, around 200 kbps per cam although I 
think you can change the video resolution setting, but they typically stream to 
the cloud DVR constantly.  And since they get put inside, rather than just at 
the front door, people tend to install a bunch of them, 5 is not uncommon, so 
even at 200 kbps per cam now you have 1 Mbps upstream.

The WiFi problem seems to be common to all these WiFi cameras.  I need to hire 
someone to explain the "sticking cheap little WiFi things with poor antennas 
everywhere and expecting them to work automagically" problem to customers 
because I'm losing patience and fear I will start biting heads off.  I notice 
that customers who actually hire a security camera company seem to end up with 
wired cameras.  Although ADT seems to install WiFi cameras.  So all burglars 
need to do is bring a WiFi jammer?  Maybe it comes down to security cameras 
bill for parts and labor while ADT has a fixed price and wants to minimize 
their labor?  More likely the local security camera guy is used to setting up 
businesses and takes a more robust approach.  I wonder when the police get the 
security camera footage from businesses near a crime, how many are "in the 
cloud" over the Internet or on someone's cellphone, and how many are stored 
locally?  Given that stores, banks, warehouses,  etc. may have dozens of 
cameras, I would think local storage starts to be more logical than streaming 
it all to cloud storage?  Or maybe they don't want thieves to steal the hard 
drive from the security system?  I would hope that's in a locked room.


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 12:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

They only use the bandwidth when they are motion triggered which was a 
large part when I am using them.   The majority of the issues we see 
with people are because it is placed outside of a good wifi signal.

On 4/27/19 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> I don't have personal experience, but I have found customers with Ring 
> doorbells to be high maintenance customers.  They complain about a lag of a 
> few seconds in triggering video to their phone, which somehow they think must 
> be an Internet problem.  The Ring doorbells also seem to need a lot of 
> upstream bandwidth, like >1 Mbps per camera, so that people with more than 
> one of them can max out the upstream on their Internet connection.  I'm not 
> sure why you need to see the UPS guy's butt walking away from your door in 
> 1080p high def.  Maybe this is based on earlier generations of the Ring 
> product and they have improved.  One customer recently reported that the 
> police had caught a burglar based on license plate info from a neighbor's 
> Ring doorbell, so maybe that is more of a "ringing" endorsement.
> 
> Chuck probably has FTTH, so upstream bandwidth may not be a scarce commodity.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 11:54 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras
> 
> So I will put that in the “less than ringing endorsement” column.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 27, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
>>
>> I'm using ring, but the website support is marginal..
>>
>>> On 04/27/2019 08:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> I want one of the front door door bell cameras.  Just have not picked one.  
>>> Any recommendations for that?
>>> *From:* Matt
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:25 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras I was 
>>> looking hard at Blink as well. Is there a way on iPhone app to switch 
>>> accounts easily?  Say I have one blink account with tower site cameras etc. 
>>> I want to let certain other coworkers to have access to these cameras. Say 
>>> I also have an account that has cameras in a dog pen in back yard at my 
>>> house etc. I only want myself to see these cameras. Will that work with 
>>> blink?
>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:44 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>> I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.
>>> -Sean
>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt 
>>> wrote:
>>> Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
>>> Have customers asking too.
>>> What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but
>>> I see
>>> no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
>>>  

Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-27 Thread Robert
They only use the bandwidth when they are motion triggered which was a 
large part when I am using them.   The majority of the issues we see 
with people are because it is placed outside of a good wifi signal.


On 4/27/19 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I don't have personal experience, but I have found customers with Ring doorbells to be high 
maintenance customers.  They complain about a lag of a few seconds in triggering video to 
their phone, which somehow they think must be an Internet problem.  The Ring doorbells also 
seem to need a lot of upstream bandwidth, like >1 Mbps per camera, so that people with 
more than one of them can max out the upstream on their Internet connection.  I'm not sure 
why you need to see the UPS guy's butt walking away from your door in 1080p high def.  Maybe 
this is based on earlier generations of the Ring product and they have improved.  One 
customer recently reported that the police had caught a burglar based on license plate info 
from a neighbor's Ring doorbell, so maybe that is more of a "ringing" endorsement.

Chuck probably has FTTH, so upstream bandwidth may not be a scarce commodity.


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 11:54 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

So I will put that in the “less than ringing endorsement” column.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 27, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Robert Andrews  wrote:

I'm using ring, but the website support is marginal..


On 04/27/2019 08:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I want one of the front door door bell cameras.  Just have not picked one.  Any 
recommendations for that?
*From:* Matt
*Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:25 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras I was looking
hard at Blink as well. Is there a way on iPhone app to switch accounts easily?  
Say I have one blink account with tower site cameras etc. I want to let certain 
other coworkers to have access to these cameras. Say I also have an account 
that has cameras in a dog pen in back yard at my house etc. I only want myself 
to see these cameras. Will that work with blink?
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:44 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.
-Sean
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt 
wrote:
Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
Have customers asking too.
What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but
I see
no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
without sharing them all.
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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-27 Thread Mike Hammett
I was just going to point out that someone not far from your Troxel tower was 
caught via Ring camera. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Ken Hohhof"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 12:09:45 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras 

I don't have personal experience, but I have found customers with Ring 
doorbells to be high maintenance customers. They complain about a lag of a few 
seconds in triggering video to their phone, which somehow they think must be an 
Internet problem. The Ring doorbells also seem to need a lot of upstream 
bandwidth, like >1 Mbps per camera, so that people with more than one of them 
can max out the upstream on their Internet connection. I'm not sure why you 
need to see the UPS guy's butt walking away from your door in 1080p high def. 
Maybe this is based on earlier generations of the Ring product and they have 
improved. One customer recently reported that the police had caught a burglar 
based on license plate info from a neighbor's Ring doorbell, so maybe that is 
more of a "ringing" endorsement. 

Chuck probably has FTTH, so upstream bandwidth may not be a scarce commodity. 


-Original Message- 
From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 11:54 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras 

So I will put that in the “less than ringing endorsement” column. 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On Apr 27, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Robert Andrews  wrote: 
> 
> I'm using ring, but the website support is marginal.. 
> 
>> On 04/27/2019 08:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: 
>> I want one of the front door door bell cameras. Just have not picked one. 
>> Any recommendations for that? 
>> *From:* Matt 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:25 AM 
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras I was looking 
>> hard at Blink as well. Is there a way on iPhone app to switch accounts 
>> easily? Say I have one blink account with tower site cameras etc. I want to 
>> let certain other coworkers to have access to these cameras. Say I also have 
>> an account that has cameras in a dog pen in back yard at my house etc. I 
>> only want myself to see these cameras. Will that work with blink? 
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:44 PM Sean Heskett  wrote: 
>> I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy. 
>> -Sean 
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt  
>> wrote: 
>> Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc. 
>> Have customers asking too. 
>> What is everyone using? Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but 
>> I see 
>> no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras 
>> without sharing them all. 
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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-27 Thread Sean Heskett
You have to sign out of one account and back in to the other to switch.
It’s not super hard but it’d be nice if it was more like the gmail app
where you can just toggle between them

On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 8:27 AM Matt  wrote:

> I was looking hard at Blink as well. Is there a way on iPhone app to
> switch accounts easily?  Say I have one blink account with tower site
> cameras etc. I want to let certain other coworkers to have access to these
> cameras. Say I also have an account that has cameras in a dog pen in back
> yard at my house etc. I only want myself to see these cameras. Will that
> work with blink?
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:44 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt  wrote:
>>
>>> Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
>>> Have customers asking too.
>>>
>>> What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but I see
>>> no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
>>> without sharing them all.
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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
I don't have personal experience, but I have found customers with Ring 
doorbells to be high maintenance customers.  They complain about a lag of a few 
seconds in triggering video to their phone, which somehow they think must be an 
Internet problem.  The Ring doorbells also seem to need a lot of upstream 
bandwidth, like >1 Mbps per camera, so that people with more than one of them 
can max out the upstream on their Internet connection.  I'm not sure why you 
need to see the UPS guy's butt walking away from your door in 1080p high def.  
Maybe this is based on earlier generations of the Ring product and they have 
improved.  One customer recently reported that the police had caught a burglar 
based on license plate info from a neighbor's Ring doorbell, so maybe that is 
more of a "ringing" endorsement.

Chuck probably has FTTH, so upstream bandwidth may not be a scarce commodity.


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 11:54 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

So I will put that in the “less than ringing endorsement” column.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 27, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
> 
> I'm using ring, but the website support is marginal..
> 
>> On 04/27/2019 08:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> I want one of the front door door bell cameras.  Just have not picked one.  
>> Any recommendations for that?
>> *From:* Matt
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:25 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras I was looking 
>> hard at Blink as well. Is there a way on iPhone app to switch accounts 
>> easily?  Say I have one blink account with tower site cameras etc. I want to 
>> let certain other coworkers to have access to these cameras. Say I also have 
>> an account that has cameras in a dog pen in back yard at my house etc. I 
>> only want myself to see these cameras. Will that work with blink?
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:44 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.
>>-Sean
>>On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt 
>>wrote:
>>Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
>>Have customers asking too.
>>What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but
>>I see
>>no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
>>without sharing them all.
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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-27 Thread Chuck McCown
So I will put that in the “less than ringing endorsement” column.

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> On Apr 27, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
> 
> I'm using ring, but the website support is marginal..
> 
>> On 04/27/2019 08:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> I want one of the front door door bell cameras.  Just have not picked one.  
>> Any recommendations for that?
>> *From:* Matt
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:25 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras
>> I was looking hard at Blink as well. Is there a way on iPhone app to switch 
>> accounts easily?  Say I have one blink account with tower site cameras etc. 
>> I want to let certain other coworkers to have access to these cameras. Say I 
>> also have an account that has cameras in a dog pen in back yard at my house 
>> etc. I only want myself to see these cameras. Will that work with blink?
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:44 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.
>>-Sean
>>On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt 
>>wrote:
>>Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
>>Have customers asking too.
>>What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but
>>I see
>>no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
>>without sharing them all.
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-27 Thread Robert Andrews

I'm using ring, but the website support is marginal..

On 04/27/2019 08:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I want one of the front door door bell cameras.  Just have not picked 
one.  Any recommendations for that?

*From:* Matt
*Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:25 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras
I was looking hard at Blink as well. Is there a way on iPhone app to 
switch accounts easily?  Say I have one blink account with tower site 
cameras etc. I want to let certain other coworkers to have access to 
these cameras. Say I also have an account that has cameras in a dog pen 
in back yard at my house etc. I only want myself to see these cameras. 
Will that work with blink?

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:44 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.
-Sean
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt 
wrote:

Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
Have customers asking too.

What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but
I see
no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
without sharing them all.


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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-27 Thread Chuck McCown
I want one of the front door door bell cameras.  Just have not picked one.  Any 
recommendations for that?

From: Matt 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:25 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

I was looking hard at Blink as well. Is there a way on iPhone app to switch 
accounts easily?  Say I have one blink account with tower site cameras etc. I 
want to let certain other coworkers to have access to these cameras. Say I also 
have an account that has cameras in a dog pen in back yard at my house etc. I 
only want myself to see these cameras. Will that work with blink?


On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:44 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

  I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.

  -Sean


  On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt  wrote:

Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
Have customers asking too.

What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but I see
no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
without sharing them all.





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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-27 Thread Matt
I was looking hard at Blink as well. Is there a way on iPhone app to switch
accounts easily?  Say I have one blink account with tower site cameras etc.
I want to let certain other coworkers to have access to these cameras. Say
I also have an account that has cameras in a dog pen in back yard at my
house etc. I only want myself to see these cameras. Will that work with
blink?


On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:44 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt  wrote:
>
>> Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
>> Have customers asking too.
>>
>> What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but I see
>> no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
>> without sharing them all.
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-26 Thread Sean Heskett
I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.

-Sean


On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt  wrote:

> Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
> Have customers asking too.
>
> What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but I see
> no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
> without sharing them all.
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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Don't use any of these:
https://hacked.camera/


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From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt
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To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
Have customers asking too.

What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but I see no
way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras without
sharing them all.

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[AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-26 Thread Matt
Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
Have customers asking too.

What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but I see
no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
without sharing them all.

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