Re: [AFMUG] Motorola Nitro CBRS

[Lewis Bergman]

It won't be widely deployed. it is being used as a wireless network to push
their TLK100 or whatever. It is envisioned for campuses, Manufacturing
plants, etc. Very expensive, duplicate coverage over already deployed WiFi.
I havetalked it up to a few fortune 500's and none of them wanted to spend
the money.

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 1:56 PM Peter Kranz via AF  wrote:

> If this was widely deployed, it would impact PMP450 CBRS users, since you
> would be competing for the same GAA channels (or they could buy PAL’s I
> guess).
>
>
>
> So in my area, I have the following concerns with CBRS now:
>
>1. Ship based radar
>2. Cellular LTE users
>3. CBRS based radio systems like Nitro
>
>
>
> Seems like a real gamble to put up equipment in a metro area with all the
> potential people competing for channels.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Motorola Nitro CBRS

[Ken Hohhof]

Will be interesting to see what the mobile companies do, especially in the more 
rural areas.  There have been reports of T-Mobile having great success with 5G 
and all the Sprint 2.5 GHz spectrum.  Does this mean T-Mobile doesn’t even need 
to bother with CBRS because they have plenty of easier-to-use mid band 
spectrum?  Does this put more pressure on AT and Verizon to use whatever mid 
band spectrum they can lay their hands on?  What about the C-band auction?

 

I know mobile companies like to have every bit of spectrum they can lay their 
hands on.  They also like to “own” spectrum so they can list it on their 
balance sheet as an asset.  On the other hand, CBRS seems to involve extra 
complexity with the SAS that other licensed spectrum doesn’t require.  I’m also 
wondering if they will all bid on PALs because they want that spectrum as an 
asset, or will they conclude they can accomplish their goals with GAA?  They 
don’t seem to mind using 5 GHz unlicensed for additional capacity.

 

CBRS is great and all that, but if it all the SAS ends up doing is protecting 
coastal radar, it seems kind of complex.  Still, higher xmt power and no LBT.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via AF
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Motorola Nitro CBRS

 

If this was widely deployed, it would impact PMP450 CBRS users, since you would 
be competing for the same GAA channels (or they could buy PAL’s I guess).

 

So in my area, I have the following concerns with CBRS now:

1.  Ship based radar
2.  Cellular LTE users
3.  CBRS based radio systems like Nitro

 

Seems like a real gamble to put up equipment in a metro area with all the 
potential people competing for channels.

 

Peter Kranz
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Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

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Re: [AFMUG] Motorola Nitro CBRS

[Peter Kranz via AF]

If this was widely deployed, it would impact PMP450 CBRS users, since you would 
be competing for the same GAA channels (or they could buy PAL’s I guess).

 

So in my area, I have the following concerns with CBRS now:

1.  Ship based radar
2.  Cellular LTE users
3.  CBRS based radio systems like Nitro

 

Seems like a real gamble to put up equipment in a metro area with all the 
potential people competing for channels.

 

Peter Kranz
  www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
  pkr...@unwiredltd.com

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Re: [AFMUG] Motorola Nitro CBRS

[Lewis Bergman]

If you want to know more about it let me know. I don't think there is a
great case for it but evidently their dev team thinks so. Its pricey.

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 2:50 PM Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> interesting...
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:43 PM Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
>> Band 48
>>
>>
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>> Jason Wilson
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>> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:38 PM Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> what is this two-way radio? Claims to use CBRS band? Is all CBRS 3.5ghz?
>>>
>>> https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_us/products/two-way-radios/mototrbo/nitro.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw5cL2BRASEiwAENqAPphXPtzfkyc1AKPbTBOZiE-buJhRhFjs0lXYD6ndU8QrMb2mcUZv2xoCXhoQAvD_BwE
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Re: [AFMUG] Motorola Nitro CBRS

[Kurt Fankhauser]

interesting...

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:43 PM Jason Wilson 
wrote:

> Band 48
>
>
>
> Jason Wilson
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> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
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>
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:38 PM Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> what is this two-way radio? Claims to use CBRS band? Is all CBRS 3.5ghz?
>>
>> https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_us/products/two-way-radios/mototrbo/nitro.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw5cL2BRASEiwAENqAPphXPtzfkyc1AKPbTBOZiE-buJhRhFjs0lXYD6ndU8QrMb2mcUZv2xoCXhoQAvD_BwE
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Re: [AFMUG] Motorola Nitro CBRS

[Jason Wilson]

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On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:38 PM Kurt Fankhauser 
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> what is this two-way radio? Claims to use CBRS band? Is all CBRS 3.5ghz?
>
> https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_us/products/two-way-radios/mototrbo/nitro.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw5cL2BRASEiwAENqAPphXPtzfkyc1AKPbTBOZiE-buJhRhFjs0lXYD6ndU8QrMb2mcUZv2xoCXhoQAvD_BwE
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[AFMUG] Motorola Nitro CBRS

[Kurt Fankhauser]

what is this two-way radio? Claims to use CBRS band? Is all CBRS 3.5ghz?
https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_us/products/two-way-radios/mototrbo/nitro.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw5cL2BRASEiwAENqAPphXPtzfkyc1AKPbTBOZiE-buJhRhFjs0lXYD6ndU8QrMb2mcUZv2xoCXhoQAvD_BwE
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