Re: [AFMUG] New server SSD vs HDD
You probably want to look at some of the intel high write endurance
SSD's if you're concerned about writes.
For example the intel S4610is rated at 6 PBW (6,000 TB) or roughly 3 DWPD.
Intel P series or optane based products have far higher endurance but
cost is a lot higher.
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On 1/24/2019 5:15 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
I think PRO drives have many more writes.
Talking Samsung….
Adam
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The only issue with SSDs is the write endurance, and most of them now
have a certain percentage of spare cells to stave that off for a
while. They generally won't go toes up all at once, but will lose
cells, or blocks of cells at some point. You will get more endurance
if you oversize them to minimize cell re-use. If you think you need
1TB, get 2TB, and it will cut cell re-use by 50%.
Way, way faster.
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:03 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies
mailto:m...@mailmt.com>> wrote:
Setting up a new server and trying to decide if I want to go SSD vs
HDD. This is a dell R620 and uses 2.5" drives. Last one I setup I
just used 1TB WD RED 2.5" drives. Now that the price of SDD has
dropped, I was thinking about using SSD over the HDD. Most likely
going to be a Ubuntu system with linux SW raid 10.
Any reason not to go with the SSD?
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Re: [AFMUG] New server SSD vs HDD
I think PRO drives have many more writes.
Talking Samsung….
Adam
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New server SSD vs HDD
The only issue with SSDs is the write endurance, and most of them now have a
certain percentage of spare cells to stave that off for a while. They generally
won't go toes up all at once, but will lose cells, or blocks of cells at some
point. You will get more endurance if you oversize them to minimize cell
re-use. If you think you need 1TB, get 2TB, and it will cut cell re-use by 50%.
Way, way faster.
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:03 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies mailto:m...@mailmt.com> > wrote:
Setting up a new server and trying to decide if I want to go SSD vs
HDD. This is a dell R620 and uses 2.5" drives. Last one I setup I
just used 1TB WD RED 2.5" drives. Now that the price of SDD has
dropped, I was thinking about using SSD over the HDD. Most likely
going to be a Ubuntu system with linux SW raid 10.
Any reason not to go with the SSD?
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Re: [AFMUG] New server SSD vs HDD
The only issue with SSDs is the write endurance, and most of them now have
a certain percentage of spare cells to stave that off for a while. They
generally won't go toes up all at once, but will lose cells, or blocks of
cells at some point. You will get more endurance if you oversize them to
minimize cell re-use. If you think you need 1TB, get 2TB, and it will cut
cell re-use by 50%.
Way, way faster.
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:03 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies
wrote:
> Setting up a new server and trying to decide if I want to go SSD vs
> HDD. This is a dell R620 and uses 2.5" drives. Last one I setup I
> just used 1TB WD RED 2.5" drives. Now that the price of SDD has
> dropped, I was thinking about using SSD over the HDD. Most likely
> going to be a Ubuntu system with linux SW raid 10.
>
> Any reason not to go with the SSD?
>
>
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> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.MyakkaTech.com
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Re: [AFMUG] New server SSD vs HDD
Something fun I remembered reading a few years ago, I wonder if anyone has ran a test like this again? https://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:44 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Not unless the alternative is hot-plug SAS drives. I like being able to > notice the red light on a failed drive and just pop in a spare, not sure if > there is an equivalent method with SSDs. Also not sure if you can get the > SMART stats from an SSD, or how much that is worth, since I’ve never done > that. > > > > But I have a webserver that is maybe 3-4 years old that was built with > SSDs and have had no problems. I think they were Samsung 850 PRO drives. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird > *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2019 11:17 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New server SSD vs HDD > > > > Nope. > > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:03 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies < > m...@mailmt.com> wrote: > > Setting up a new server and trying to decide if I want to go SSD vs > HDD. This is a dell R620 and uses 2.5" drives. Last one I setup I > just used 1TB WD RED 2.5" drives. Now that the price of SDD has > dropped, I was thinking about using SSD over the HDD. Most likely > going to be a Ubuntu system with linux SW raid 10. > > Any reason not to go with the SSD? > > > -- > > Thanks, > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.MyakkaTech.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] New server SSD vs HDD
Not unless the alternative is hot-plug SAS drives. I like being able to notice the red light on a failed drive and just pop in a spare, not sure if there is an equivalent method with SSDs. Also not sure if you can get the SMART stats from an SSD, or how much that is worth, since I’ve never done that. But I have a webserver that is maybe 3-4 years old that was built with SSDs and have had no problems. I think they were Samsung 850 PRO drives. From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 11:17 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New server SSD vs HDD Nope. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:03 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies mailto:m...@mailmt.com> > wrote: Setting up a new server and trying to decide if I want to go SSD vs HDD. This is a dell R620 and uses 2.5" drives. Last one I setup I just used 1TB WD RED 2.5" drives. Now that the price of SDD has dropped, I was thinking about using SSD over the HDD. Most likely going to be a Ubuntu system with linux SW raid 10. Any reason not to go with the SSD? -- Thanks, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com <http://www.MyakkaTech.com> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] New server SSD vs HDD
Write endurance is still a thing. Just be sure to compare specs. DWPD is the simple number to go by. If they don't publish a DWPD on the spec sheet that probably means you don't want to know. -Adam On 1/24/2019 12:02 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: Setting up a new server and trying to decide if I want to go SSD vs HDD. This is a dell R620 and uses 2.5" drives. Last one I setup I just used 1TB WD RED 2.5" drives. Now that the price of SDD has dropped, I was thinking about using SSD over the HDD. Most likely going to be a Ubuntu system with linux SW raid 10. Any reason not to go with the SSD? -- Thanks, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] New server SSD vs HDD
Um. Let me think. NO, in fact, unless you need storage, SSDs are the way to go. Just simply faster. Not larger, heck I think they got 12tb drives out now, but still. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 11:17 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New server SSD vs HDD Nope. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:03 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies mailto:m...@mailmt.com>> wrote: Setting up a new server and trying to decide if I want to go SSD vs HDD. This is a dell R620 and uses 2.5" drives. Last one I setup I just used 1TB WD RED 2.5" drives. Now that the price of SDD has dropped, I was thinking about using SSD over the HDD. Most likely going to be a Ubuntu system with linux SW raid 10. Any reason not to go with the SSD? -- Thanks, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com<mailto:m...@mailmt.com> Myakka Technologies, Inc. https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=www.MyakkaTech.com=C8DA89F4-8037-9E05-A5C5-38F15AB7D643=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-9ca30ad880709b7b5354e0f1247fd187313adddc<https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.MyakkaTech.com=C8DA89F4-8037-9E05-A5C5-38F15AB7D643=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-b30821a69c0d6e2f4431fe725218299b36170909> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com<mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] New server SSD vs HDD
Nope. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:03 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > Setting up a new server and trying to decide if I want to go SSD vs > HDD. This is a dell R620 and uses 2.5" drives. Last one I setup I > just used 1TB WD RED 2.5" drives. Now that the price of SDD has > dropped, I was thinking about using SSD over the HDD. Most likely > going to be a Ubuntu system with linux SW raid 10. > > Any reason not to go with the SSD? > > > -- > > Thanks, > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.MyakkaTech.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] New server SSD vs HDD
Setting up a new server and trying to decide if I want to go SSD vs HDD. This is a dell R620 and uses 2.5" drives. Last one I setup I just used 1TB WD RED 2.5" drives. Now that the price of SDD has dropped, I was thinking about using SSD over the HDD. Most likely going to be a Ubuntu system with linux SW raid 10. Any reason not to go with the SSD? -- Thanks, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
