Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
That is beta user pricing. I can imagine that the USAF is probably still working at the original bandwidth. All users are currently beta users... On 2/8/21 5:28 PM, Bill Prince wrote: $99/MRC IIRC. Don't know if that applies to beta users. I would hope there's some accommodation for beta users, but I wouldn't hold my breath. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:06 PM Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: How much per month? -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude). I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief" intervals of no service. But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more like $599. All due before they will process the order. -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
Better too! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 8, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > As long as I continue to give 500 mbps for $99 I should remain a batter > value. > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 6:28 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >>> >> >> $99/MRC IIRC. Don't know if that applies to beta users. I would hope there's >> some accommodation for beta users, but I wouldn't hold my breath. >> >> -- >> bp >> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com >> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:06 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >>> How much per month? >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: Bill Prince >>> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM >>> To: AFMUG >>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula >>> >>> ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude). >>> >>> I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this >>> afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level >>> service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief" >>> intervals of no service. >>> >>> But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 >>> equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus >>> another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more >>> like $599. All due before they will process the order. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> bp >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
As long as I continue to give 500 mbps for $99 I should remain a batter value. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 8, 2021, at 6:28 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > > $99/MRC IIRC. Don't know if that applies to beta users. I would hope there's > some accommodation for beta users, but I wouldn't hold my breath. > > -- > bp > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com > > >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:06 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> How much per month? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Bill Prince >> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM >> To: AFMUG >> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula >> >> ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude). >> >> I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this >> afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level >> service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief" >> intervals of no service. >> >> But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 >> equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus >> another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more >> like $599. All due before they will process the order. >> >> >> -- >> bp >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
That’s actually a good point. We’ve dropped from gigabit to 600meg to 200 meg to 50 meg with only 10,000 customers. > On Feb 8, 2021, at 8:06 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > How much per month? > > -Original Message- From: Bill Prince > Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM > To: AFMUG > Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula > > ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude). > > I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this > afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level > service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief" > intervals of no service. > > But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 > equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus > another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more > like $599. All due before they will process the order. > > > -- > bp > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
$99/MRC IIRC. Don't know if that applies to beta users. I would hope there's some accommodation for beta users, but I wouldn't hold my breath. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:06 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > How much per month? > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Prince > Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM > To: AFMUG > Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula > > ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude). > > I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this > afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level > service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief" > intervals of no service. > > But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 > equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus > another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more > like $599. All due before they will process the order. > > > -- > bp > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
Currently $100 On 2/8/21 5:05 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: How much per month? -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude). I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief" intervals of no service. But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more like $599. All due before they will process the order. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
How much per month? -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude). I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief" intervals of no service. But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more like $599. All due before they will process the order. -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
I have more faith than that in musk. I really think, as long as governments stay out of it, this will be a game change in the data landscape. Bad for WISPs, good for consumers, until space debris and light pollution degrade it On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 6:35 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Yeah. Odd I can get it at our office in a city of 40,000 but not my home > in the middle of nowhere 30 miles away. > > Also speeds have slowly eroded from gigabit to 50 megabits. > > I suspect this is much ado about nothing. It will relieve customers who > can’t get something but shouldn’t be a major concern. > > > On Feb 8, 2021, at 7:17 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > > > ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude). > > > > I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this > afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level service. > Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief" intervals of no > service. > > > > But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 > equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus > another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more like > $599. All due before they will process the order. > > > > > > -- > > bp > > > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
With how much they are losing per terminal, no surprise they don't want to lose anything else on the deal. Also hold up your hand if you _haven't_ seen performance drop on _fill_in_the_blank_ new tech when the customers actually start using it. Basically wastage will expand to absorb any bandwidth that isn't somehow regulated.. Last I heard they were at 10K customers, any new numbers? On 2/8/21 4:35 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Yeah. Odd I can get it at our office in a city of 40,000 but not my home in the middle of nowhere 30 miles away. Also speeds have slowly eroded from gigabit to 50 megabits. I suspect this is much ado about nothing. It will relieve customers who can’t get something but shouldn’t be a major concern. On Feb 8, 2021, at 7:17 PM, Bill Prince wrote: ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude). I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief" intervals of no service. But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more like $599. All due before they will process the order. -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
Yeah. Odd I can get it at our office in a city of 40,000 but not my home in the middle of nowhere 30 miles away. Also speeds have slowly eroded from gigabit to 50 megabits. I suspect this is much ado about nothing. It will relieve customers who can’t get something but shouldn’t be a major concern. > On Feb 8, 2021, at 7:17 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude). > > I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this afternoon > that it is available at our home address for beta-level service. Speed & > latency will be variable, and there will "brief" intervals of no service. > > But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 > equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus > another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more like > $599. All due before they will process the order. > > > -- > bp > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude). I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief" intervals of no service. But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more like $599. All due before they will process the order. -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com