Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

2021-02-08 Thread Robert
That is beta user pricing.  I can imagine that the USAF is probably 
still working at the original bandwidth.   All users are currently beta 
users...




On 2/8/21 5:28 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
$99/MRC IIRC. Don't know if that applies to beta users. I would hope 
there's some accommodation for beta users, but I wouldn't hold my breath.


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On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:06 PM Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:


How much per month?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM
To: AFMUG
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude).

I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this
afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level
service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief"
intervals of no service.

But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it.
The $499
equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another
$50), plus
another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more
like $599. All due before they will process the order.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

2021-02-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Better too!

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> On Feb 8, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> As long as I continue to give 500 mbps for $99 I should remain a batter 
> value.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 6:28 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> $99/MRC IIRC. Don't know if that applies to beta users. I would hope there's 
>> some accommodation for beta users, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>> 
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>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:06 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>>> How much per month?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message- 
>>> From: Bill Prince
>>> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM
>>> To: AFMUG
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
>>> 
>>> ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude).
>>> 
>>> I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this
>>> afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level
>>> service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief"
>>> intervals of no service.
>>> 
>>> But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499
>>> equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus
>>> another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more
>>> like $599. All due before they will process the order.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

2021-02-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
As long as I continue to give 500 mbps for $99 I should remain a batter value.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2021, at 6:28 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> 
> $99/MRC IIRC. Don't know if that applies to beta users. I would hope there's 
> some accommodation for beta users, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
> 
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>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:06 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>> How much per month?
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Bill Prince
>> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM
>> To: AFMUG
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
>> 
>> ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude).
>> 
>> I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this
>> afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level
>> service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief"
>> intervals of no service.
>> 
>> But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499
>> equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus
>> another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more
>> like $599. All due before they will process the order.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

2021-02-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
That’s actually a good point. We’ve dropped from gigabit to 600meg to 200 meg 
to 50 meg with only 10,000 customers. 

> On Feb 8, 2021, at 8:06 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
> 
> How much per month?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Bill Prince
> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM
> To: AFMUG
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
> 
> ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude).
> 
> I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this
> afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level
> service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief"
> intervals of no service.
> 
> But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499
> equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus
> another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more
> like $599. All due before they will process the order.
> 
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

2021-02-08 Thread Bill Prince
$99/MRC IIRC. Don't know if that applies to beta users. I would hope
there's some accommodation for beta users, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:06 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> How much per month?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Prince
> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM
> To: AFMUG
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula
>
> ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude).
>
> I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this
> afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level
> service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief"
> intervals of no service.
>
> But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499
> equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus
> another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more
> like $599. All due before they will process the order.
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

2021-02-08 Thread Robert

Currently $100

On 2/8/21 5:05 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

How much per month?

-Original Message- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM
To: AFMUG
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude).

I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this
afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level
service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief"
intervals of no service.

But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499
equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus
another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more
like $599. All due before they will process the order.





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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

2021-02-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

How much per month?

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Prince

Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:17 PM
To: AFMUG
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude).

I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this
afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level
service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief"
intervals of no service.

But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499
equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus
another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more
like $599. All due before they will process the order.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

2021-02-08 Thread Steve Jones
I have more faith than that in musk. I really think, as long as governments
stay out of it, this will be a game change in the data landscape. Bad for
WISPs, good for consumers, until space debris and light pollution degrade it

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 6:35 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Yeah. Odd I can get it at our office in a city of 40,000 but not my home
> in the middle of nowhere 30 miles away.
>
> Also speeds have slowly eroded from gigabit to 50 megabits.
>
> I suspect this is much ado about nothing. It will relieve customers who
> can’t get something but shouldn’t be a major concern.
>
> > On Feb 8, 2021, at 7:17 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> >
> > ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude).
> >
> > I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this
> afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level service.
> Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief" intervals of no
> service.
> >
> > But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499
> equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus
> another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more like
> $599. All due before they will process the order.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

2021-02-08 Thread Robert
With how much they are losing per terminal, no surprise they don't want 
to lose anything else on the deal. Also hold up your hand if you 
_haven't_ seen performance drop on _fill_in_the_blank_ new tech when the 
customers actually start using it.   Basically wastage will expand to 
absorb any bandwidth that isn't somehow regulated..  Last I heard they 
were at 10K customers, any new numbers?


On 2/8/21 4:35 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Yeah. Odd I can get it at our office in a city of 40,000 but not my home in the 
middle of nowhere 30 miles away.

Also speeds have slowly eroded from gigabit to 50 megabits.

I suspect this is much ado about nothing. It will relieve customers who can’t 
get something but shouldn’t be a major concern.


On Feb 8, 2021, at 7:17 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude).

I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this afternoon that it is 
available at our home address for beta-level service. Speed & latency will be variable, 
and there will "brief" intervals of no service.

But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 
equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus another $49 and 
change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more like $599. All due before they will 
process the order.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

2021-02-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
Yeah. Odd I can get it at our office in a city of 40,000 but not my home in the 
middle of nowhere 30 miles away. 

Also speeds have slowly eroded from gigabit to 50 megabits. 

I suspect this is much ado about nothing. It will relieve customers who can’t 
get something but shouldn’t be a major concern. 

> On Feb 8, 2021, at 7:17 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> ... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude).
> 
> I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this afternoon 
> that it is available at our home address for beta-level service. Speed & 
> latency will be variable, and there will "brief" intervals of no service.
> 
> But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 
> equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus 
> another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more like 
> $599. All due before they will process the order.
> 
> 
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[AFMUG] OT: Starlink now available on the S.F. Peninsula

2021-02-08 Thread Bill Prince

... and probably the whole bay area now (~~ 37° latitude).

I had signed up for Starlink internet service. I got a notice this 
afternoon that it is available at our home address for beta-level 
service. Speed & latency will be variable, and there will "brief" 
intervals of no service.


But the prices they had announced has an interesting "*" to it. The $499 
equipment fee does not include shipping and handling (another $50), plus 
another $49 and change for tax. So instead of paying $499, it's more 
like $599. All due before they will process the order.



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