Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-04-01 Thread Cameron Crum
Black cats might work, but then there is all the paper.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 6:22 AM Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> Chuck,
> If you end up using a 22, you can buy blanks. If you can't find blanks for
> a regular gun, my Ramset uses these:
> Yellow shot 22
> <https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ramset-0-22-Caliber-Yellow-Single-Shot-Powder-Loads-100-Count-00607/100187029?MERCH=REC-_-pipsem-_-100091715-_-100187029-_-N>
>
> You can get different loads for different nails. Not sure which is the
> highest load or what would work best.
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:31 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> It's hard to imagine something to match the combination of sharp loudness
>> and convenience of a pistol.  If you need it louder you might have to just
>> get a bigger pistol.
>>
>> I seem to think they use 12 gauge blanks for sounding underground
>> objects.  Similar problem with similar solution.
>>
>>
>> On 3/31/2020 7:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> We have some loads for a power hammer that may work.  Else we will just
>> pull the bullet off a regular 22 short and either crimp it or put some soap
>> in it.
>>
>> *From:* David Coudron
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:17 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new project
>>
>>
>> You can use a regular pistol and regular blanks.   I bought a lot of
>> these for my uncle who was the coordinator for track and field in Hawaii.
>> We just bought regular blanks even thought they had starting pistols, so
>> you can use them in a regular pistol.   He mixed black powder and regular
>> powder.   Black powder for official races, regular for practice.   .22 and
>> a .22 pistol should work well.   I wouldn’t mess with the black powder
>> though as it is tough on the pistol and harder to get.   Let me know if you
>> have a tough time finding them, I might be able to help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> David Coudron
>>
>> *From:* AF   *On
>> Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 6:12 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new project
>>
>>
>>
>> No we just want the shortest loudest sound we can get initially.  I will
>> get it dialed in after some initial testing.
>>
>> The problem with the starter pistol is that I think the sound comes out
>> of an area that is somewhat diffuse.  If we put a blank in a pistol then
>> the sound should come from the barrel.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* David Coudron
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:06 PM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new project
>>
>>
>>
>> Starter pistol would be significantly louder and is pretty cheap to use
>> if you need to do this often.   You can get .22 or .32 caliber blanks.
>> Don’t bother with the black powder blanks, they are harder to get and cost
>> more.   The black powder only helps if you need visual verification of the
>> shot before the noise reaches you (like the timer in a race).
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> David Coudron
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:17 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT new project
>>
>>
>>
>> I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a
>> starter pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.
>>
>> Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise
>> need to be small.
>>
>> Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse
>> sharp and loud enough.
>>
>> Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud
>> enough or not.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-04-01 Thread Lewis Bergman
Chuck,
If you end up using a 22, you can buy blanks. If you can't find blanks for
a regular gun, my Ramset uses these:
Yellow shot 22
<https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ramset-0-22-Caliber-Yellow-Single-Shot-Powder-Loads-100-Count-00607/100187029?MERCH=REC-_-pipsem-_-100091715-_-100187029-_-N>

You can get different loads for different nails. Not sure which is the
highest load or what would work best.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:31 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> It's hard to imagine something to match the combination of sharp loudness
> and convenience of a pistol.  If you need it louder you might have to just
> get a bigger pistol.
>
> I seem to think they use 12 gauge blanks for sounding underground
> objects.  Similar problem with similar solution.
>
>
> On 3/31/2020 7:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> We have some loads for a power hammer that may work.  Else we will just
> pull the bullet off a regular 22 short and either crimp it or put some soap
> in it.
>
> *From:* David Coudron
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:17 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new project
>
>
> You can use a regular pistol and regular blanks.   I bought a lot of these
> for my uncle who was the coordinator for track and field in Hawaii.   We
> just bought regular blanks even thought they had starting pistols, so you
> can use them in a regular pistol.   He mixed black powder and regular
> powder.   Black powder for official races, regular for practice.   .22 and
> a .22 pistol should work well.   I wouldn’t mess with the black powder
> though as it is tough on the pistol and harder to get.   Let me know if you
> have a tough time finding them, I might be able to help.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> David Coudron
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 6:12 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new project
>
>
>
> No we just want the shortest loudest sound we can get initially.  I will
> get it dialed in after some initial testing.
>
> The problem with the starter pistol is that I think the sound comes out of
> an area that is somewhat diffuse.  If we put a blank in a pistol then the
> sound should come from the barrel.
>
>
>
> *From:* David Coudron
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:06 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new project
>
>
>
> Starter pistol would be significantly louder and is pretty cheap to use if
> you need to do this often.   You can get .22 or .32 caliber blanks.   Don’t
> bother with the black powder blanks, they are harder to get and cost
> more.   The black powder only helps if you need visual verification of the
> shot before the noise reaches you (like the timer in a race).
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> David Coudron
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:17 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT new project
>
>
>
> I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a starter
> pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.
>
> Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise
> need to be small.
>
> Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse
> sharp and loud enough.
>
> Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud enough
> or not.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread Adam Moffett
It's hard to imagine something to match the combination of sharp 
loudness and convenience of a pistol.  If you need it louder you might 
have to just get a bigger pistol.


I seem to think they use 12 gauge blanks for sounding underground 
objects.  Similar problem with similar solution.



On 3/31/2020 7:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
We have some loads for a power hammer that may work. Else we will just 
pull the bullet off a regular 22 short and either crimp it or put some 
soap in it.

*From:* David Coudron
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:17 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

You can use a regular pistol and regular blanks.   I bought a lot of 
these for my uncle who was the coordinator for track and field in 
Hawaii. We just bought regular blanks even thought they had starting 
pistols, so you can use them in a regular pistol.   He mixed black 
powder and regular powder. Black powder for official races, regular 
for practice. .22 and a .22 pistol should work well.   I wouldn’t mess 
with the black powder though as it is tough on the pistol and harder 
to get.   Let me know if you have a tough time finding them, I might 
be able to help.


Regards,

David Coudron

*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 6:12 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

No we just want the shortest loudest sound we can get initially.  I 
will get it dialed in after some initial testing.


The problem with the starter pistol is that I think the sound comes 
out of an area that is somewhat diffuse.  If we put a blank in a 
pistol then the sound should come from the barrel.


*From:*David Coudron

*Sent:*Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:06 PM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

Starter pistol would be significantly louder and is pretty cheap to 
use if you need to do this often.   You can get .22 or .32 caliber 
blanks.   Don’t bother with the black powder blanks, they are harder 
to get and cost more. The black powder only helps if you need visual 
verification of the shot before the noise reaches you (like the timer 
in a race).


Regards,

David Coudron

*From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:17 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT new project

I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a 
starter pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.


Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise 
need to be small.


Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse 
sharp and loud enough.


Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud 
enough or not.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Air Compressor, Accumulator.  Large fast solenoid.




On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 4:17 PM  wrote:

> I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a starter
> pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.
> Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise
> need to be small.
> Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse
> sharp and loud enough.
> Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud enough
> or not.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread Bill Prince

  
  
Not really. You have to be down close to the well head to hear
  it. Of course, it's a closed system, so I have no idea what it
  sounds like inside the well pipe.

bp



On 3/31/2020 4:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  Is it noisy?
  

   
  
From: Bill
Prince 
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:55 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project
  

 
  
  
We have one of these on our water well. It works by
  sending a pulse down the well and times how long it takes
  to receive the echo. Maybe not loud enough for your
  purposes, but your description made me think of it.


  https://enoscientific.com/ww660/

bp



On 3/31/2020 3:16 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  

  I need to launch a large sound impulse down a
pipe.  Thinking of a starter pistol.  Banging on the
side of the pipe is not good enough.  
  Need a loud pop that I can do over and over. 
Whatever makes the noise need to be small.  
  Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that
could produce an impulse sharp and loud enough.  
  Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy
caps would be loud enough or not.

  
  
  




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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread Bill Prince

  
  
Neither. Kind of a soft pop. It repeats about once per second.


bp



On 3/31/2020 4:10 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  Is it a click or tone or ?
  

   
  
From: Bill
Prince 
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:55 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project
  

 
  
  
We have one of these on our water well. It works by
  sending a pulse down the well and times how long it takes
  to receive the echo. Maybe not loud enough for your
  purposes, but your description made me think of it.


  https://enoscientific.com/ww660/

bp



On 3/31/2020 3:16 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  

  I need to launch a large sound impulse down a
pipe.  Thinking of a starter pistol.  Banging on the
side of the pipe is not good enough.  
  Need a loud pop that I can do over and over. 
Whatever makes the noise need to be small.  
  Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that
could produce an impulse sharp and loud enough.  
  Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy
caps would be loud enough or not.

  
  
  




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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread David Coudron
The power hammer should be the right thing.  I know the cement and framing guys 
use hammers that use .22 blanks.

Regards,

David Coudron
From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 6:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

We have some loads for a power hammer that may work.  Else we will just pull 
the bullet off a regular 22 short and either crimp it or put some soap in it.

From: David Coudron
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:17 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

You can use a regular pistol and regular blanks.   I bought a lot of these for 
my uncle who was the coordinator for track and field in Hawaii.   We just 
bought regular blanks even thought they had starting pistols, so you can use 
them in a regular pistol.   He mixed black powder and regular powder.   Black 
powder for official races, regular for practice.   .22 and a .22 pistol should 
work well.   I wouldn’t mess with the black powder though as it is tough on the 
pistol and harder to get.   Let me know if you have a tough time finding them, 
I might be able to help.

Regards,

David Coudron
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 6:12 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

No we just want the shortest loudest sound we can get initially.  I will get it 
dialed in after some initial testing.
The problem with the starter pistol is that I think the sound comes out of an 
area that is somewhat diffuse.  If we put a blank in a pistol then the sound 
should come from the barrel.

From: David Coudron
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

Starter pistol would be significantly louder and is pretty cheap to use if you 
need to do this often.   You can get .22 or .32 caliber blanks.   Don’t bother 
with the black powder blanks, they are harder to get and cost more.   The black 
powder only helps if you need visual verification of the shot before the noise 
reaches you (like the timer in a race).

Regards,

David Coudron
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:17 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] OT new project

I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a starter 
pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.
Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise need to 
be small.
Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse sharp 
and loud enough.
Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud enough or 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread chuck
We have some loads for a power hammer that may work.  Else we will just pull 
the bullet off a regular 22 short and either crimp it or put some soap in it.  

From: David Coudron 
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:17 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

You can use a regular pistol and regular blanks.   I bought a lot of these for 
my uncle who was the coordinator for track and field in Hawaii.   We just 
bought regular blanks even thought they had starting pistols, so you can use 
them in a regular pistol.   He mixed black powder and regular powder.   Black 
powder for official races, regular for practice.   .22 and a .22 pistol should 
work well.   I wouldn’t mess with the black powder though as it is tough on the 
pistol and harder to get.   Let me know if you have a tough time finding them, 
I might be able to help.

 

Regards,

 

David Coudron

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 6:12 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

 

No we just want the shortest loudest sound we can get initially.  I will get it 
dialed in after some initial testing.  

The problem with the starter pistol is that I think the sound comes out of an 
area that is somewhat diffuse.  If we put a blank in a pistol then the sound 
should come from the barrel.  

 

From: David Coudron 

Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:06 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

 

Starter pistol would be significantly louder and is pretty cheap to use if you 
need to do this often.   You can get .22 or .32 caliber blanks.   Don’t bother 
with the black powder blanks, they are harder to get and cost more.   The black 
powder only helps if you need visual verification of the shot before the noise 
reaches you (like the timer in a race).   

 

Regards,

 

David Coudron

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Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:17 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT new project

 

I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a starter 
pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.  

Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise need to 
be small.  

Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse sharp 
and loud enough.  

Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud enough or 
not.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread chuck
Is it noisy?

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:55 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

We have one of these on our water well. It works by sending a pulse down the 
well and times how long it takes to receive the echo. Maybe not loud enough for 
your purposes, but your description made me think of it.


  https://enoscientific.com/ww660/

bp


On 3/31/2020 3:16 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a starter 
pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.  
  Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise need 
to be small.  
  Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse sharp 
and loud enough.  
  Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud enough or 
not.

   



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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread David Coudron
You can use a regular pistol and regular blanks.   I bought a lot of these for 
my uncle who was the coordinator for track and field in Hawaii.   We just 
bought regular blanks even thought they had starting pistols, so you can use 
them in a regular pistol.   He mixed black powder and regular powder.   Black 
powder for official races, regular for practice.   .22 and a .22 pistol should 
work well.   I wouldn’t mess with the black powder though as it is tough on the 
pistol and harder to get.   Let me know if you have a tough time finding them, 
I might be able to help.

Regards,

David Coudron
From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 6:12 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

No we just want the shortest loudest sound we can get initially.  I will get it 
dialed in after some initial testing.
The problem with the starter pistol is that I think the sound comes out of an 
area that is somewhat diffuse.  If we put a blank in a pistol then the sound 
should come from the barrel.

From: David Coudron
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

Starter pistol would be significantly louder and is pretty cheap to use if you 
need to do this often.   You can get .22 or .32 caliber blanks.   Don’t bother 
with the black powder blanks, they are harder to get and cost more.   The black 
powder only helps if you need visual verification of the shot before the noise 
reaches you (like the timer in a race).

Regards,

David Coudron
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ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:17 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] OT new project

I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a starter 
pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.
Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise need to 
be small.
Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse sharp 
and loud enough.
Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud enough or 
not.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread chuck
No we just want the shortest loudest sound we can get initially.  I will get it 
dialed in after some initial testing.  
The problem with the starter pistol is that I think the sound comes out of an 
area that is somewhat diffuse.  If we put a blank in a pistol then the sound 
should come from the barrel.  

From: David Coudron 
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

Starter pistol would be significantly louder and is pretty cheap to use if you 
need to do this often.   You can get .22 or .32 caliber blanks.   Don’t bother 
with the black powder blanks, they are harder to get and cost more.   The black 
powder only helps if you need visual verification of the shot before the noise 
reaches you (like the timer in a race).   

 

Regards,

 

David Coudron

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Subject: [AFMUG] OT new project

 

I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a starter 
pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.  

Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise need to 
be small.  

Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse sharp 
and loud enough.  

Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud enough or 
not.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread chuck
Is it a click or tone or ?

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:55 PM
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We have one of these on our water well. It works by sending a pulse down the 
well and times how long it takes to receive the echo. Maybe not loud enough for 
your purposes, but your description made me think of it.


  https://enoscientific.com/ww660/

bp


On 3/31/2020 3:16 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a starter 
pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.  
  Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise need 
to be small.  
  Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse sharp 
and loud enough.  
  Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud enough or 
not.

   



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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread David Coudron
Starter pistol would be significantly louder and is pretty cheap to use if you 
need to do this often.   You can get .22 or .32 caliber blanks.   Don't bother 
with the black powder blanks, they are harder to get and cost more.   The black 
powder only helps if you need visual verification of the shot before the noise 
reaches you (like the timer in a race).

Regards,

David Coudron
From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
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Subject: [AFMUG] OT new project

I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a starter 
pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.
Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise need to 
be small.
Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse sharp 
and loud enough.
Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud enough or 
not.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread Bill Prince

  
  
We have one of these on our water well. It works by sending a
  pulse down the well and times how long it takes to receive the
  echo. Maybe not loud enough for your purposes, but your
  description made me think of it.


  https://enoscientific.com/ww660/



bp



On 3/31/2020 3:16 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe. 
Thinking of a starter pistol.  Banging on the side of the
pipe is not good enough.  
  Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever
makes the noise need to be small.  
  Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could
produce an impulse sharp and loud enough.  
  Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps
would be loud enough or not.

  
  
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread chuck
Not doing a tone.  Just one loud pop.  I did think of the bose, but not sure 
how loud of an impulse it might do.
We will shoot a pistol with a blank down the pipe tomorrow and see what 
happens.  I can attenuate the pistol in steps to see how much we really need.  

From: Brian Webster 
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:31 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

I would use a speaker that fits that size pipe, then an audio source. That 
would be most flexible depending on your need for the frequency of the sound. 
Kind of like the Bose Wave radio.

 

Thank you,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

 

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Subject: [AFMUG] OT new project

 

I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a starter 
pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.  

Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise need to 
be small.  

Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse sharp 
and loud enough.  

Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud enough or 
not.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread Brian Webster
I would use a speaker that fits that size pipe, then an audio source. That
would be most flexible depending on your need for the frequency of the
sound. Kind of like the Bose Wave radio.

 

Thank you,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

 

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Subject: [AFMUG] OT new project

 

I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a starter
pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.  

Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise need
to be small.  

Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse sharp
and loud enough.  

Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud enough
or not.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread Jay Weekley

Air horn?

ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe. Thinking of a 
starter pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.
Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise 
need to be small.
Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse 
sharp and loud enough.
Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud 
enough or not.





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[AFMUG] OT new project

2020-03-31 Thread chuck
I need to launch a large sound impulse down a pipe.  Thinking of a starter 
pistol.  Banging on the side of the pipe is not good enough.  
Need a loud pop that I can do over and over.  Whatever makes the noise need to 
be small.  
Not sure if there is a small loudspeaker that could produce an impulse sharp 
and loud enough.  
Do they still make cap pistols?  Not sure if toy caps would be loud enough or 
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