Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices
I use the portal provided by Epcom...works great for me. . On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 5:52 AM TJ Trout wrote: > if you're going to do cameras you probably going to have to use a cloud > video service to be able to access the NVR behind the cell nat > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 7:45 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> Hikvision NVR, One PTZ and three fixed...all IP >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 8:22 PM wrote: >> >>> Not bad if you can run a bunch of remote cameras off of that. What cams >>> and NVR do you have on that job? >>> >>> *From:* Jaime Solorza >>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:14 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices >>> >>> Cradlepoint was around $700.00. $45.00 a month unlimited >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 2:23 PM Chuck McCown wrote: >>> >>>> What does that cost? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Apr 5, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Jaime Solorza >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> We have four cameras and NVR on a Cradlepoint under T-Mobile. Test >>>> speeds over 50 most of the time. No issues with cameras even PTZ is >>>> responsive...in place since 2018. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 10:24 PM TJ Trout wrote: >>>> >>>>> how do u get through cellular nat? >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 8:14 PM Ryan Ray wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We use cradle point ARC CBA850. Very stable solution and has always >>>>>> worked for OOB. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:16 PM TJ Trout wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> awesome, good info. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hologram might not be the cheapest, but they have one of the easiest >>>>>>> ways to punch through the cellular nat... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:25 PM wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is >>>>>>>> 10 euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per >>>>>>>> 500 MB. >>>>>>>> Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data >>>>>>>> amounts. Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year >>>>>>>> capped >>>>>>>> at 64 kbps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jared >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2020 >>>>>>>> *From:* "TJ Trout" >>>>>>>> *To:* "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices >>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have options for oob IP and or console access. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wondering what you guys do / best practices. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the >>>>>>>> acm by tunneling through their nat. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment >>>>>>>> during an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TJ >>>>>>>> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices
if you're going to do cameras you probably going to have to use a cloud video service to be able to access the NVR behind the cell nat On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 7:45 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Hikvision NVR, One PTZ and three fixed...all IP > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 8:22 PM wrote: > >> Not bad if you can run a bunch of remote cameras off of that. What cams >> and NVR do you have on that job? >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:14 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices >> >> Cradlepoint was around $700.00. $45.00 a month unlimited >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 2:23 PM Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>> What does that cost? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 5, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Jaime Solorza >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> We have four cameras and NVR on a Cradlepoint under T-Mobile. Test >>> speeds over 50 most of the time. No issues with cameras even PTZ is >>> responsive...in place since 2018. >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 10:24 PM TJ Trout wrote: >>> >>>> how do u get through cellular nat? >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 8:14 PM Ryan Ray wrote: >>>> >>>>> We use cradle point ARC CBA850. Very stable solution and has always >>>>> worked for OOB. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:16 PM TJ Trout wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> awesome, good info. >>>>>> >>>>>> hologram might not be the cheapest, but they have one of the easiest >>>>>> ways to punch through the cellular nat... >>>>>> >>>>>> 1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:25 PM wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is >>>>>>> 10 euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 >>>>>>> MB. >>>>>>> Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data amounts. >>>>>>> Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year capped at 64 >>>>>>> kbps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jared >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2020 >>>>>>> *From:* "TJ Trout" >>>>>>> *To:* "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices >>>>>>> All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have options for oob IP and or console access. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wondering what you guys do / best practices. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the >>>>>>> acm by tunneling through their nat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment >>>>>>> during an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TJ >>>>>>> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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Hikvision NVR, One PTZ and three fixed...all IP On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 8:22 PM wrote: > Not bad if you can run a bunch of remote cameras off of that. What cams > and NVR do you have on that job? > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:14 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices > > Cradlepoint was around $700.00. $45.00 a month unlimited > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 2:23 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > >> What does that cost? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 5, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Jaime Solorza >> wrote: >> >> >> We have four cameras and NVR on a Cradlepoint under T-Mobile. Test >> speeds over 50 most of the time. No issues with cameras even PTZ is >> responsive...in place since 2018. >> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 10:24 PM TJ Trout wrote: >> >>> how do u get through cellular nat? >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 8:14 PM Ryan Ray wrote: >>> >>>> We use cradle point ARC CBA850. Very stable solution and has always >>>> worked for OOB. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:16 PM TJ Trout wrote: >>>> >>>>> awesome, good info. >>>>> >>>>> hologram might not be the cheapest, but they have one of the easiest >>>>> ways to punch through the cellular nat... >>>>> >>>>> 1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa... >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:25 PM wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is >>>>>> 10 euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 >>>>>> MB. >>>>>> Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data amounts. >>>>>> Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year capped at 64 >>>>>> kbps. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jared >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2020 >>>>>> *From:* "TJ Trout" >>>>>> *To:* "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices >>>>>> All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have options for oob IP and or console access. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wondering what you guys do / best practices. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the acm >>>>>> by tunneling through their nat. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. >>>>>> >>>>>> The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment >>>>>> during an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. >>>>>> >>>>>> TJ >>>>>> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices
Not bad if you can run a bunch of remote cameras off of that. What cams and
NVR do you have on that job?
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices
Cradlepoint was around $700.00. $45.00 a month unlimited
On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 2:23 PM Chuck McCown wrote:
What does that cost?
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 5, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
We have four cameras and NVR on a Cradlepoint under T-Mobile. Test speeds
over 50 most of the time. No issues with cameras even PTZ is responsive...in
place since 2018.
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 10:24 PM TJ Trout wrote:
how do u get through cellular nat?
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 8:14 PM Ryan Ray wrote:
We use cradle point ARC CBA850. Very stable solution and has always
worked for OOB.
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:16 PM TJ Trout wrote:
awesome, good info.
hologram might not be the cheapest, but they have one of the easiest
ways to punch through the cellular nat...
1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa...
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:25 PM wrote:
FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is
10 euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 MB.
Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it.
There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data
amounts. Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year capped at 64
kbps.
Jared
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020
From: "TJ Trout"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices
All,
I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying.
I have options for oob IP and or console access.
Wondering what you guys do / best practices.
I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the
acm by tunneling through their nat.
Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection.
The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment
during an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access.
TJ
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Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices
Cradlepoint was around $700.00. $45.00 a month unlimited On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 2:23 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > What does that cost? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 5, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > > > We have four cameras and NVR on a Cradlepoint under T-Mobile. Test > speeds over 50 most of the time. No issues with cameras even PTZ is > responsive...in place since 2018. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 10:24 PM TJ Trout wrote: > >> how do u get through cellular nat? >> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 8:14 PM Ryan Ray wrote: >> >>> We use cradle point ARC CBA850. Very stable solution and has always >>> worked for OOB. >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:16 PM TJ Trout wrote: >>> >>>> awesome, good info. >>>> >>>> hologram might not be the cheapest, but they have one of the easiest >>>> ways to punch through the cellular nat... >>>> >>>> 1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa... >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:25 PM wrote: >>>> >>>>> FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is 10 >>>>> euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 MB. >>>>> Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it. >>>>> >>>>> There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data amounts. >>>>> Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year capped at 64 >>>>> kbps. >>>>> >>>>> Jared >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2020 >>>>> *From:* "TJ Trout" >>>>> *To:* "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices >>>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. >>>>> >>>>> I have options for oob IP and or console access. >>>>> >>>>> Wondering what you guys do / best practices. >>>>> >>>>> I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the acm >>>>> by tunneling through their nat. >>>>> >>>>> Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. >>>>> >>>>> The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment >>>>> during an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. >>>>> >>>>> TJ >>>>> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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Of course, not to forget, most IoT SIM providers can provide you with a fixed IP. The Things Mobile fee is $2/month plus $25 setup. Jared > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2020 > From: fiber...@mail.com > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices > > From: "TJ Trout" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices > > > how do u get through cellular nat? > Reverse ssh tunnel, Tor hidden service, any of the free or paid tunneling > services. > > Jared > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices > how do u get through cellular nat? Reverse ssh tunnel, Tor hidden service, any of the free or paid tunneling services. Jared -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices > 1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa... Well, that sucks. Guess I'll have to use an old coutry connect to try them out. Nevertheless, here's another one: https://www.thingsmobile.com/business/plans/pay-per-use-plan-with-subscription-fee Basic plan is $1 per month plus $0.02 per MB. They ship to the US. Here's a calculator to compare their plans. They have lots. From no monthly fee to shared data pools with as many SIMs as you like. https://www.thingsmobile.com/business/plans/find-the-best-plan Again a disclaimer: haven't used these either Jared -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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What does that cost? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 5, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > > We have four cameras and NVR on a Cradlepoint under T-Mobile. Test speeds > over 50 most of the time. No issues with cameras even PTZ is responsive...in > place since 2018. > >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 10:24 PM TJ Trout wrote: >> how do u get through cellular nat? >> >>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 8:14 PM Ryan Ray wrote: >>> We use cradle point ARC CBA850. Very stable solution and has always worked >>> for OOB. >>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:16 PM TJ Trout wrote: >>>> awesome, good info. >>>> >>>> hologram might not be the cheapest, but they have one of the easiest ways >>>> to punch through the cellular nat... >>>> >>>> 1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa... >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:25 PM wrote: >>>>> FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is 10 >>>>> euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 MB. >>>>> Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it. >>>>> >>>>> There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data amounts. >>>>> Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year capped at 64 >>>>> kbps. >>>>> >>>>> Jared >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 >>>>> From: "TJ Trout" >>>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices >>>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. >>>>> >>>>> I have options for oob IP and or console access. >>>>> >>>>> Wondering what you guys do / best practices. >>>>> >>>>> I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the acm by >>>>> tunneling through their nat. >>>>> >>>>> Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. >>>>> >>>>> The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment during >>>>> an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. >>>>> >>>>> TJ >>>>> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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We have four cameras and NVR on a Cradlepoint under T-Mobile. Test speeds over 50 most of the time. No issues with cameras even PTZ is responsive...in place since 2018. On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 10:24 PM TJ Trout wrote: > how do u get through cellular nat? > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 8:14 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > >> We use cradle point ARC CBA850. Very stable solution and has always >> worked for OOB. >> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:16 PM TJ Trout wrote: >> >>> awesome, good info. >>> >>> hologram might not be the cheapest, but they have one of the easiest >>> ways to punch through the cellular nat... >>> >>> 1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa... >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:25 PM wrote: >>> >>>> FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is 10 >>>> euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 MB. >>>> Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it. >>>> >>>> There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data amounts. >>>> Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year capped at 64 >>>> kbps. >>>> >>>> Jared >>>> >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2020 >>>> *From:* "TJ Trout" >>>> *To:* "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices >>>> All, >>>> >>>> I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. >>>> >>>> I have options for oob IP and or console access. >>>> >>>> Wondering what you guys do / best practices. >>>> >>>> I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the acm >>>> by tunneling through their nat. >>>> >>>> Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. >>>> >>>> The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment >>>> during an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. >>>> >>>> TJ >>>> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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We use AirConsole with a Cradlepoint on Verizon Wireless. NAT is not a concern with AirConsole if you use their Airconsole Enterprise Server product (free). On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 1:23 PM can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > You can use a Mikrotik LTE router with a Mint Mobile ($15 - 3GB/month on > yearly plan) or Hologram.io SIM. You could > script it to only bring up the LTE tunnel when the main WAN goes down. > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 1:14 AM Ryan Ray wrote: > >> We pay Bell for public IP addresses. No NAT. >> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:24 PM TJ Trout wrote: >> >>> how do u get through cellular nat? >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 8:14 PM Ryan Ray wrote: >>> >>>> We use cradle point ARC CBA850. Very stable solution and has always >>>> worked for OOB. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:16 PM TJ Trout wrote: >>>> >>>>> awesome, good info. >>>>> >>>>> hologram might not be the cheapest, but they have one of the easiest >>>>> ways to punch through the cellular nat... >>>>> >>>>> 1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa... >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:25 PM wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is >>>>>> 10 euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 >>>>>> MB. >>>>>> Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data amounts. >>>>>> Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year capped at 64 >>>>>> kbps. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jared >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2020 >>>>>> *From:* "TJ Trout" >>>>>> *To:* "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices >>>>>> All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have options for oob IP and or console access. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wondering what you guys do / best practices. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the acm >>>>>> by tunneling through their nat. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. >>>>>> >>>>>> The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment >>>>>> during an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. >>>>>> >>>>>> TJ >>>>>> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices
You can use a Mikrotik LTE router with a Mint Mobile ($15 - 3GB/month on yearly plan) or Hologram.io SIM. You could script it to only bring up the LTE tunnel when the main WAN goes down. On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 1:14 AM Ryan Ray wrote: > We pay Bell for public IP addresses. No NAT. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:24 PM TJ Trout wrote: > >> how do u get through cellular nat? >> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 8:14 PM Ryan Ray wrote: >> >>> We use cradle point ARC CBA850. Very stable solution and has always >>> worked for OOB. >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:16 PM TJ Trout wrote: >>> >>>> awesome, good info. >>>> >>>> hologram might not be the cheapest, but they have one of the easiest >>>> ways to punch through the cellular nat... >>>> >>>> 1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa... >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:25 PM wrote: >>>> >>>>> FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is 10 >>>>> euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 MB. >>>>> Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it. >>>>> >>>>> There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data amounts. >>>>> Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year capped at 64 >>>>> kbps. >>>>> >>>>> Jared >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2020 >>>>> *From:* "TJ Trout" >>>>> *To:* "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices >>>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. >>>>> >>>>> I have options for oob IP and or console access. >>>>> >>>>> Wondering what you guys do / best practices. >>>>> >>>>> I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the acm >>>>> by tunneling through their nat. >>>>> >>>>> Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. >>>>> >>>>> The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment >>>>> during an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. >>>>> >>>>> TJ >>>>> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices
We pay Bell for public IP addresses. No NAT. On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:24 PM TJ Trout wrote: > how do u get through cellular nat? > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 8:14 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > >> We use cradle point ARC CBA850. Very stable solution and has always >> worked for OOB. >> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:16 PM TJ Trout wrote: >> >>> awesome, good info. >>> >>> hologram might not be the cheapest, but they have one of the easiest >>> ways to punch through the cellular nat... >>> >>> 1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa... >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:25 PM wrote: >>> >>>> FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is 10 >>>> euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 MB. >>>> Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it. >>>> >>>> There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data amounts. >>>> Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year capped at 64 >>>> kbps. >>>> >>>> Jared >>>> >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2020 >>>> *From:* "TJ Trout" >>>> *To:* "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices >>>> All, >>>> >>>> I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. >>>> >>>> I have options for oob IP and or console access. >>>> >>>> Wondering what you guys do / best practices. >>>> >>>> I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the acm >>>> by tunneling through their nat. >>>> >>>> Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. >>>> >>>> The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment >>>> during an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. >>>> >>>> TJ >>>> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices
how do u get through cellular nat? On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 8:14 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > We use cradle point ARC CBA850. Very stable solution and has always worked > for OOB. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:16 PM TJ Trout wrote: > >> awesome, good info. >> >> hologram might not be the cheapest, but they have one of the easiest ways >> to punch through the cellular nat... >> >> 1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa... >> >> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:25 PM wrote: >> >>> FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is 10 >>> euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 MB. >>> Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it. >>> >>> There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data amounts. >>> Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year capped at 64 kbps. >>> >>> Jared >>> >>> >>> *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2020 >>> *From:* "TJ Trout" >>> *To:* "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices >>> All, >>> >>> I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. >>> >>> I have options for oob IP and or console access. >>> >>> Wondering what you guys do / best practices. >>> >>> I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the acm by >>> tunneling through their nat. >>> >>> Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. >>> >>> The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment >>> during an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. >>> >>> TJ >>> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices
We use cradle point ARC CBA850. Very stable solution and has always worked for OOB. On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 3:16 PM TJ Trout wrote: > awesome, good info. > > hologram might not be the cheapest, but they have one of the easiest ways > to punch through the cellular nat... > > 1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa... > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:25 PM wrote: > >> FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is 10 >> euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 MB. >> Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it. >> >> There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data amounts. >> Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year capped at 64 kbps. >> >> Jared >> >> >> *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2020 >> *From:* "TJ Trout" >> *To:* "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices >> All, >> >> I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. >> >> I have options for oob IP and or console access. >> >> Wondering what you guys do / best practices. >> >> I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the acm by >> tunneling through their nat. >> >> Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. >> >> The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment during >> an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. >> >> TJ >> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices
awesome, good info. hologram might not be the cheapest, but they have one of the easiest ways to punch through the cellular nat... 1NCE looks amazing but how do you get sims? they don't ship to usa... On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:25 PM wrote: > FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is 10 > euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 MB. > Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it. > > There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data amounts. > Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year capped at 64 kbps. > > Jared > > > *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2020 > *From:* "TJ Trout" > *To:* "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices > All, > > I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. > > I have options for oob IP and or console access. > > Wondering what you guys do / best practices. > > I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the acm by > tunneling through their nat. > > Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. > > The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment during > an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. > > TJ > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices
FYI, there are lots of other IoT SIM providers. For example 1NCE is 10 euros for 10 years with 500 MB of data. Top ups are 10 euros per 500 MB. Global coverage. Disclaimer: haven't used it. There are others at a buck or two per month for larger data amounts. Apparently T-Mobile has an unlimited IoT SIM for $25/year capped at 64 kbps. Jared Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: [AFMUG] Out of band access best practices All, I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. I have options for oob IP and or console access. Wondering what you guys do / best practices. I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the acm by tunneling through their nat. Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment during an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. TJ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] Out of band access best practices
All, I bought some opengear acm's that I am working on deploying. I have options for oob IP and or console access. Wondering what you guys do / best practices. I think I will use hologram.io cellular because I can access the acm by tunneling through their nat. Alternative might be a $10 DSL connection. The idea here is being able to troubleshoot core routing equipment during an outage when I'm off net or even on net but no ip access. TJ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
