Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-23 Thread Josh Baird 
Paul,

Where were you sourcing your Lanner appliances from?  I could really use a
box with 4x10Gbps interfaces that will run ROS reliably.

Thanks,

Josh

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:42 AM Paul McCall  wrote:

> OR… is there a better way to go here  x86, build your own box, etc.We
> used to use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable
> (easy to deal with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years.  (More
> comments on line about common issues, etc.)
>
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>
>
>
> We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at
> CCR1072-1G-8S+.
>
>
>
> Anybody selling these used?  Looking for a pair of them
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:41 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
>
>
>
> Science Fiction “High Life”
>
>
>
> Two thumbs down down down.
>
>
>
> Zero budget for a space flick.  Lots of dryer hose and liquid tight.
>
> Space suits that don’t have seals for the helmets (looks like burlap in
> the back).
>
>
>
> The story line/plot was minimally OK but it was long and the obviously
> cheap cheap cheap effects ruin it for nerds.
>
>
>
> Weird gratuitous one way sex scene with Jullitte Binoche could have been
> slightly interesting but is was just gross and disturbing.
>
>
>
> Don’t waste money on this.
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Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Paul McCall 
OK, but if (2) for just the edge, any suggestion?

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:25 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

You don't necessarily need one for each, just more than one to handle router 
failure, maintenance, etc.


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To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 4:11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
Answers in line….

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:21 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

Design first, identify weak points second, decide products third.

Put each upstream on a separate router and do iBGP between routers. Possibly 
even separate edge routers and core routers.  We thought about this, we ran 
iBGP years ago for a different reason…  so if you have provider # 1, provider # 
2, and provider # 3 (actually a link to an IX), you would run THREE different 
routers each with an SFP+ on it, then another router to manage the iBGP and all 
the traffic with full routers.  If that is the case Mike, then what routers 
would you recommend for the 3 and what router for the “managing router”:

A major weak point on a CCR are their ability to do BGP well in v6.

What is your non-BGP resource hog now? Are you absolutely sure you have that 
resource configured optimally?  We don’t really have a non-BGP major resource 
hog on it ATM.  Don’t know how jumping from dual 1 GB backbones to 2 to 3 
10Gbit backbones to support our fiber customers is going to impact things 
though.

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From: "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:08:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
Two parts Mike,

We are adding (2) 10Gbit connections to the web soon, are adding 2 10Gbit 
connections on the “internal network” side of things to process some fiber 
customers coming on board.

So, there are 4 SFP+ immediately used, and we will have more and would like a 
spare or two anyway, so 8 SFP+ capability would seem a requirement.

Of course, with all this the processing power needs to keep up

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:03 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

What aspect are you outgrowing?



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Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Mike Hammett 
You don't necessarily need one for each, just more than one to handle router 
failure, maintenance, etc. 




- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 4:11:34 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 



Answers in line…. 



From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:21 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 


Design first, identify weak points second, decide products third. 

Put each upstream on a separate router and do iBGP between routers. Possibly 
even separate edge routers and core routers. We thought about this, we ran iBGP 
years ago for a different reason… so if you have provider # 1, provider # 2, 
and provider # 3 (actually a link to an IX), you would run THREE different 
routers each with an SFP+ on it, then another router to manage the iBGP and all 
the traffic with full routers. If that is the case Mike, then what routers 
would you recommend for the 3 and what router for the “managing router”: 



A major weak point on a CCR are their ability to do BGP well in v6. 



What is your non-BGP resource hog now? Are you absolutely sure you have that 
resource configured optimally? We don’t really have a non-BGP major resource 
hog on it ATM. Don’t know how jumping from dual 1 GB backbones to 2 to 3 10Gbit 
backbones to support our fiber customers is going to impact things though. 


Paul 
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Midwest Internet Exchange 

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- Original Message -


From: "Paul McCall" < pa...@pdmnet.net > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:08:47 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 
Two parts Mike, 

We are adding (2) 10Gbit connections to the web soon, are adding 2 10Gbit 
connections on the “internal network” side of things to process some fiber 
customers coming on board. 

So, there are 4 SFP+ immediately used, and we will have more and would like a 
spare or two anyway, so 8 SFP+ capability would seem a requirement. 

Of course, with all this the processing power needs to keep up 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:03 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 


What aspect are you outgrowing? 





- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Paul McCall" < pa...@pdmnet.net > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 9:41:34 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 
OR… is there a better way to go here x86, build your own box, etc. We used to 
use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable (easy to deal 
with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years. (More comments on line about 
common issues, etc.) 

Any suggestions? 

Paul 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Paul McCall 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 

We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at CCR1072-1G-8S+. 

Anybody selling these used? Looking for a pair of them 

Paul 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:41 PM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review 




Science Fiction “High Life” 



Two thumbs down down down. 



Zero budget for a space flick. Lots of dryer hose and liquid tight. 

Space suits that don’t have seals for the helmets (looks like burlap in the 
back). 



The story line/plot was minimally OK but it was long and the obviously cheap 
cheap cheap effects ruin it for nerds. 



Weird gratuitous one way sex scene with Jullitte Binoche could have been 
slightly interesting but is was just gross and disturbing. 



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Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Mike Hammett 
You won't see forwarding performance issues. You'll having reachability issues. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Steve Jones"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 2:55:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 


its just because the one processor is always at 100 pct, ive never seen a 
performance issue with two full tables 


On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 11:56 AM Darin Steffl < darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > 
wrote: 



I don't understand how you guys think BGP kills Mikrotik. We have ccr1072 and 
ccr1009 taking full tables and it takes about 3-5 minutes and winbox works fine 
the whole time. The router is not on its knees so I don't understand why people 
say it's as bad as it is. 


On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 11:07 AM < jst...@fourway.net > wrote: 





Assuming you intend to take in full tables/do more than just receive a default 
route from your peers, definitely go with the x86 based CHR. We’re running 
CCR1072s at edge and core. They’re great on the core. However, until RouterOS 
V7 drops, full tables on a CCR1072 will take about 15 mins to pull down and the 
router will be on its knees the whole time. 

From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:36 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 



If you're doing BGP, I would definitely go with a RouterOS x86 box instead of a 
CCR. 



There are some nice pre-built options from Linktechs or Baltic, or you can put 
your own together. 



On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:22 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Design first, identify weak points second, decide products third. 

Put each upstream on a separate router and do iBGP between routers. Possibly 
even separate edge routers and core routers. 



A major weak point on a CCR are their ability to do BGP well in v6. 



What is your non-BGP resource hog now? Are you absolutely sure you have that 
resource configured optimally? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Paul McCall" < pa...@pdmnet.net > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:08:47 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 

Two parts Mike, 

We are adding (2) 10Gbit connections to the web soon, are adding 2 10Gbit 
connections on the “internal network” side of things to process some fiber 
customers coming on board. 

So, there are 4 SFP+ immediately used, and we will have more and would like a 
spare or two anyway, so 8 SFP+ capability would seem a requirement. 

Of course, with all this the processing power needs to keep up 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:03 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 


What aspect are you outgrowing? 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Paul McCall" < pa...@pdmnet.net > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 9:41:34 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 
OR… is there a better way to go here x86, build your own box, etc. We used to 
use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable (easy to deal 
with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years. (More comments on line about 
common issues, etc.) 

Any suggestions? 

Paul 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Paul McCall 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 

We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at CCR1072-1G-8S+. 

Anybody selling these used? Looking for a pair of them 

Paul 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:41 PM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review 




Science Fiction “High Life” 



Two thumbs down down down. 



Zero budget for a space flick. Lots of dryer hose and liquid tight. 

Space suits that don’t have seals for the helmets (looks like burlap in the 
back). 



The story line/plot was minimally OK but it was long and the obviously cheap 
cheap cheap effects ruin it for nerds. 



Weird gratuitous one way sex scene with Jullitte Binoche could have been 
slightly interesting but is was just gross and disturbing. 



Don’t waste money on this. 

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Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Mike Hammett 
Even Mikrotik admits it sucks. 

It can take 10 - 20 minutes to process a change in the routing table. That's a 
problem. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Darin Steffl"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:55:30 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 


I don't understand how you guys think BGP kills Mikrotik. We have ccr1072 and 
ccr1009 taking full tables and it takes about 3-5 minutes and winbox works fine 
the whole time. The router is not on its knees so I don't understand why people 
say it's as bad as it is. 


On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 11:07 AM < jst...@fourway.net > wrote: 





Assuming you intend to take in full tables/do more than just receive a default 
route from your peers, definitely go with the x86 based CHR. We’re running 
CCR1072s at edge and core. They’re great on the core. However, until RouterOS 
V7 drops, full tables on a CCR1072 will take about 15 mins to pull down and the 
router will be on its knees the whole time. 

From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:36 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 



If you're doing BGP, I would definitely go with a RouterOS x86 box instead of a 
CCR. 



There are some nice pre-built options from Linktechs or Baltic, or you can put 
your own together. 



On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:22 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Design first, identify weak points second, decide products third. 

Put each upstream on a separate router and do iBGP between routers. Possibly 
even separate edge routers and core routers. 



A major weak point on a CCR are their ability to do BGP well in v6. 



What is your non-BGP resource hog now? Are you absolutely sure you have that 
resource configured optimally? 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Paul McCall" < pa...@pdmnet.net > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:08:47 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 

Two parts Mike, 

We are adding (2) 10Gbit connections to the web soon, are adding 2 10Gbit 
connections on the “internal network” side of things to process some fiber 
customers coming on board. 

So, there are 4 SFP+ immediately used, and we will have more and would like a 
spare or two anyway, so 8 SFP+ capability would seem a requirement. 

Of course, with all this the processing power needs to keep up 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:03 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 


What aspect are you outgrowing? 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Paul McCall" < pa...@pdmnet.net > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 9:41:34 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 
OR… is there a better way to go here x86, build your own box, etc. We used to 
use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable (easy to deal 
with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years. (More comments on line about 
common issues, etc.) 

Any suggestions? 

Paul 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Paul McCall 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 

We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at CCR1072-1G-8S+. 

Anybody selling these used? Looking for a pair of them 

Paul 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:41 PM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review 




Science Fiction “High Life” 



Two thumbs down down down. 



Zero budget for a space flick. Lots of dryer hose and liquid tight. 

Space suits that don’t have seals for the helmets (looks like burlap in the 
back). 



The story line/plot was minimally OK but it was long and the obviously cheap 
cheap cheap effects ruin it for nerds. 



Weird gratuitous one way sex scene with Jullitte Binoche could have been 
slightly interesting but is was just gross and disturbing. 



Don’t waste money on this. 

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Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Paul McCall 
Answers in line….

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:21 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

Design first, identify weak points second, decide products third.

Put each upstream on a separate router and do iBGP between routers. Possibly 
even separate edge routers and core routers.  We thought about this, we ran 
iBGP years ago for a different reason…  so if you have provider # 1, provider # 
2, and provider # 3 (actually a link to an IX), you would run THREE different 
routers each with an SFP+ on it, then another router to manage the iBGP and all 
the traffic with full routers.  If that is the case Mike, then what routers 
would you recommend for the 3 and what router for the “managing router”:

A major weak point on a CCR are their ability to do BGP well in v6.

What is your non-BGP resource hog now? Are you absolutely sure you have that 
resource configured optimally?  We don’t really have a non-BGP major resource 
hog on it ATM.  Don’t know how jumping from dual 1 GB backbones to 2 to 3 
10Gbit backbones to support our fiber customers is going to impact things 
though.

Paul
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From: "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:08:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
Two parts Mike,

We are adding (2) 10Gbit connections to the web soon, are adding 2 10Gbit 
connections on the “internal network” side of things to process some fiber 
customers coming on board.

So, there are 4 SFP+ immediately used, and we will have more and would like a 
spare or two anyway, so 8 SFP+ capability would seem a requirement.

Of course, with all this the processing power needs to keep up

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:03 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
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What aspect are you outgrowing?



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From: "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 9:41:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
OR… is there a better way to go here  x86, build your own box, etc.We used 
to use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable (easy to 
deal with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years.  (More comments on line 
about common issues, etc.)

Any suggestions?

Paul

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Paul McCall
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

We have outgrown

Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Steve Jones 
its just because the one processor is always at 100 pct, ive never seen a
performance issue with two full tables

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 11:56 AM Darin Steffl 
wrote:

> I don't understand how you guys think BGP kills Mikrotik. We have ccr1072
> and ccr1009 taking full tables and it takes about 3-5 minutes and winbox
> works fine the whole time. The router is not on its knees so I don't
> understand why people say it's as bad as it is.
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 11:07 AM  wrote:
>
>> Assuming you intend to take in full tables/do more than just receive a
>> default route from your peers, definitely go with the x86 based CHR. We’re
>> running CCR1072s at edge and core. They’re great on the core. However,
>> until RouterOS V7 drops, full tables on a CCR1072 will take about 15 mins
>> to pull down and the router will be on its knees the whole time.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 11:36 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>>
>>
>>
>> If you're doing BGP, I would definitely go with a RouterOS x86 box
>> instead of a CCR.
>>
>>
>>
>> There are some nice pre-built options from Linktechs or Baltic, or you
>> can put your own together.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:22 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
>> Design first, identify weak points second, decide products third.
>>
>> Put each upstream on a separate router and do iBGP between routers.
>> Possibly even separate edge routers and core routers.
>>
>>
>>
>> A major weak point on a CCR are their ability to do BGP well in v6.
>>
>>
>>
>> What is your non-BGP resource hog now? Are you absolutely sure you have
>> that resource configured optimally?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Paul McCall" 
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Monday, April 22, 2019 10:08:47 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>>
>> Two parts Mike,
>>
>>
>>
>> We are adding (2) 10Gbit connections to the web soon, are adding 2 10Gbit
>> connections on the “internal network” side of things to process some fiber
>> customers coming on board.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, there are 4 SFP+ immediately used, and we will have more and would
>> like a spare or two anyway, so 8 SFP+ capability would seem a requirement.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, with all this the processing power needs to keep up
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 11:03 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>>
>>
>>
>> What aspect are you outgrowing?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Paul McCall" 
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Monday, April 22, 2019 9:

Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Darin Steffl 
I don't understand how you guys think BGP kills Mikrotik. We have ccr1072
and ccr1009 taking full tables and it takes about 3-5 minutes and winbox
works fine the whole time. The router is not on its knees so I don't
understand why people say it's as bad as it is.

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 11:07 AM  wrote:

> Assuming you intend to take in full tables/do more than just receive a
> default route from your peers, definitely go with the x86 based CHR. We’re
> running CCR1072s at edge and core. They’re great on the core. However,
> until RouterOS V7 drops, full tables on a CCR1072 will take about 15 mins
> to pull down and the router will be on its knees the whole time.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 11:36 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>
>
>
> If you're doing BGP, I would definitely go with a RouterOS x86 box instead
> of a CCR.
>
>
>
> There are some nice pre-built options from Linktechs or Baltic, or you can
> put your own together.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:22 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
> Design first, identify weak points second, decide products third.
>
> Put each upstream on a separate router and do iBGP between routers.
> Possibly even separate edge routers and core routers.
>
>
>
> A major weak point on a CCR are their ability to do BGP well in v6.
>
>
>
> What is your non-BGP resource hog now? Are you absolutely sure you have
> that resource configured optimally?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Paul McCall" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Monday, April 22, 2019 10:08:47 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>
> Two parts Mike,
>
>
>
> We are adding (2) 10Gbit connections to the web soon, are adding 2 10Gbit
> connections on the “internal network” side of things to process some fiber
> customers coming on board.
>
>
>
> So, there are 4 SFP+ immediately used, and we will have more and would
> like a spare or two anyway, so 8 SFP+ capability would seem a requirement.
>
>
>
> Of course, with all this the processing power needs to keep up
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 11:03 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>
>
>
> What aspect are you outgrowing?
>
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Paul McCall" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Monday, April 22, 2019 9:41:34 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>
> OR… is there a better way to go here  x86, build your own box, etc.We
> used to use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable
> (easy to deal with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years.  (More
> comments on line about common issues, etc.)
>
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>
>
>
> We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at
> CCR1072-1G-8S+.

Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread jstump 
Assuming you intend to take in full tables/do more than just receive a default 
route from your peers, definitely go with the x86 based CHR. We’re running 
CCR1072s at edge and core. They’re great on the core. However, until RouterOS 
V7 drops, full tables on a CCR1072 will take about 15 mins to pull down and the 
router will be on its knees the whole time.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

 

If you're doing BGP, I would definitely go with a RouterOS x86 box instead of a 
CCR. 

 

There are some nice pre-built options from Linktechs or Baltic, or you can put 
your own together. 

 

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:22 AM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

Design first, identify weak points second, decide products third.

Put each upstream on a separate router and do iBGP between routers. Possibly 
even separate edge routers and core routers.

 

A major weak point on a CCR are their ability to do BGP well in v6.

 

What is your non-BGP resource hog now? Are you absolutely sure you have that 
resource configured optimally?



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
 <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange
 <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>  
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
 <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP
 <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>  
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 





  _  


From: "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:08:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

Two parts Mike,

 

We are adding (2) 10Gbit connections to the web soon, are adding 2 10Gbit 
connections on the “internal network” side of things to process some fiber 
customers coming on board.

 

So, there are 4 SFP+ immediately used, and we will have more and would like a 
spare or two anyway, so 8 SFP+ capability would seem a requirement.

 

Of course, with all this the processing power needs to keep up

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:03 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

 

What aspect are you outgrowing?

 



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
 <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange
 <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>  
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
 <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP
 <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>  
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 





  _____  


From: "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 9:41:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

OR… is there a better way to go here  x86, build your own box, etc.We used 
to use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable (easy to 
deal with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years.  (More comments on line 
about common issues, etc.)

 

Any suggestions?

 

Paul

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Paul McCall
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

 

We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at CCR1072-1G-8S+.  

 

Anybody selling these used?  Looking for a pair of them

 

Paul

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:41 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

 

Science Fiction “High Life”

 

Two thumbs down down down.

 

Zero budget for a space flick.  Lots of dryer hose and liquid tight.  

Space suits that don’t have seals for the helmets (looks like burlap in the 
back).

 

The story line/plot was minimally OK but it was long and the obviously cheap 
cheap cheap effects ruin it for nerds.

 

Weird gratuitous one way sex scene with Jullitte Binoc

Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Mathew Howard 
If you're doing BGP, I would definitely go with a RouterOS x86 box instead
of a CCR.

There are some nice pre-built options from Linktechs or Baltic, or you can
put your own together.

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:22 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Design first, identify weak points second, decide products third.
>
> Put each upstream on a separate router and do iBGP between routers.
> Possibly even separate edge routers and core routers.
>
> A major weak point on a CCR are their ability to do BGP well in v6.
>
> What is your non-BGP resource hog now? Are you absolutely sure you have
> that resource configured optimally?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------------------
> *From: *"Paul McCall" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Monday, April 22, 2019 10:08:47 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>
> Two parts Mike,
>
>
>
> We are adding (2) 10Gbit connections to the web soon, are adding 2 10Gbit
> connections on the “internal network” side of things to process some fiber
> customers coming on board.
>
>
>
> So, there are 4 SFP+ immediately used, and we will have more and would
> like a spare or two anyway, so 8 SFP+ capability would seem a requirement.
>
>
>
> Of course, with all this the processing power needs to keep up
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 11:03 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>
>
>
> What aspect are you outgrowing?
>
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Paul McCall" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Monday, April 22, 2019 9:41:34 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>
> OR… is there a better way to go here  x86, build your own box, etc.We
> used to use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable
> (easy to deal with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years.  (More
> comments on line about common issues, etc.)
>
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>
>
>
> We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at
> CCR1072-1G-8S+.
>
>
>
> Anybody selling these used?  Looking for a pair of them
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:41 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
>
>
>
> Science Fiction “High Life”
>
>
>
> Two thumbs down down down.
>
>
>
> Zero budget for a space flick.  Lots of dryer hose and liquid tight.
>
> Space suits that don’t have seals for the helmets (looks like burlap in
> the back).
>
>
>
> The story line/plot was minimally OK but it was long and the obviously
> cheap cheap cheap effects ruin it for nerds.
>
>
>
> Weird gratuitous one way sex scene with Jullitte Binoche could have been
> slightly interesting but is was just gross and disturbing.
>
>
>
> Don’t waste money on this.
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Mike Hammett 
Design first, identify weak points second, decide products third. 

Put each upstream on a separate router and do iBGP between routers. Possibly 
even separate edge routers and core routers. 


A major weak point on a CCR are their ability to do BGP well in v6. 


What is your non-BGP resource hog now? Are you absolutely sure you have that 
resource configured optimally? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:08:47 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 



Two parts Mike, 

We are adding (2) 10Gbit connections to the web soon, are adding 2 10Gbit 
connections on the “internal network” side of things to process some fiber 
customers coming on board. 

So, there are 4 SFP+ immediately used, and we will have more and would like a 
spare or two anyway, so 8 SFP+ capability would seem a requirement. 

Of course, with all this the processing power needs to keep up 



From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:03 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 


What aspect are you outgrowing? 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -


From: "Paul McCall" < pa...@pdmnet.net > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 9:41:34 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 
OR… is there a better way to go here x86, build your own box, etc. We used to 
use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable (easy to deal 
with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years. (More comments on line about 
common issues, etc.) 

Any suggestions? 

Paul 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Paul McCall 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 

We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at CCR1072-1G-8S+. 

Anybody selling these used? Looking for a pair of them 

Paul 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:41 PM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review 




Science Fiction “High Life” 



Two thumbs down down down. 



Zero budget for a space flick. Lots of dryer hose and liquid tight. 

Space suits that don’t have seals for the helmets (looks like burlap in the 
back). 



The story line/plot was minimally OK but it was long and the obviously cheap 
cheap cheap effects ruin it for nerds. 



Weird gratuitous one way sex scene with Jullitte Binoche could have been 
slightly interesting but is was just gross and disturbing. 



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Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Jon Langeler 
You might want to consider any x86 solution and keep your current routers as 
‘3rd string’ spares. 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Apr 22, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
> 
> OR… is there a better way to go here  x86, build your own box, etc.We 
> used to use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable (easy 
> to deal with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years.  (More comments on 
> line about common issues, etc.)
>  
> Any suggestions?
>  
> Paul
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Paul McCall
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
>  
> We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at 
> CCR1072-1G-8S+. 
>  
> Anybody selling these used?  Looking for a pair of them
>  
> Paul
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:41 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
>  
> Science Fiction “High Life”
>  
> Two thumbs down down down.
>  
> Zero budget for a space flick.  Lots of dryer hose and liquid tight. 
> Space suits that don’t have seals for the helmets (looks like burlap in the 
> back).
>  
> The story line/plot was minimally OK but it was long and the obviously cheap 
> cheap cheap effects ruin it for nerds.
>  
> Weird gratuitous one way sex scene with Jullitte Binoche could have been 
> slightly interesting but is was just gross and disturbing.  
>  
> Don’t waste money on this. 
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Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Paul McCall 
Two parts Mike,

We are adding (2) 10Gbit connections to the web soon, are adding 2 10Gbit 
connections on the “internal network” side of things to process some fiber 
customers coming on board.

So, there are 4 SFP+ immediately used, and we will have more and would like a 
spare or two anyway, so 8 SFP+ capability would seem a requirement.

Of course, with all this the processing power needs to keep up

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:03 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

What aspect are you outgrowing?



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From: "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 9:41:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+
OR… is there a better way to go here  x86, build your own box, etc.We used 
to use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable (easy to 
deal with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years.  (More comments on line 
about common issues, etc.)

Any suggestions?

Paul

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Paul McCall
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at CCR1072-1G-8S+.

Anybody selling these used?  Looking for a pair of them

Paul

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:41 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

Science Fiction “High Life”

Two thumbs down down down.

Zero budget for a space flick.  Lots of dryer hose and liquid tight.
Space suits that don’t have seals for the helmets (looks like burlap in the 
back).

The story line/plot was minimally OK but it was long and the obviously cheap 
cheap cheap effects ruin it for nerds.

Weird gratuitous one way sex scene with Jullitte Binoche could have been 
slightly interesting but is was just gross and disturbing.

Don’t waste money on this.

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Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Mike Hammett 
What aspect are you outgrowing? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 9:41:34 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 



OR… is there a better way to go here x86, build your own box, etc. We used to 
use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable (easy to deal 
with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years. (More comments on line about 
common issues, etc.) 

Any suggestions? 

Paul 



From: AF  On Behalf Of Paul McCall 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Subject: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 

We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at CCR1072-1G-8S+. 

Anybody selling these used? Looking for a pair of them 

Paul 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:41 PM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review 




Science Fiction “High Life” 



Two thumbs down down down. 



Zero budget for a space flick. Lots of dryer hose and liquid tight. 

Space suits that don’t have seals for the helmets (looks like burlap in the 
back). 



The story line/plot was minimally OK but it was long and the obviously cheap 
cheap cheap effects ruin it for nerds. 



Weird gratuitous one way sex scene with Jullitte Binoche could have been 
slightly interesting but is was just gross and disturbing. 



Don’t waste money on this. 
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Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Paul McCall 
OR… is there a better way to go here  x86, build your own box, etc.We used 
to use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable (easy to 
deal with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years.  (More comments on line 
about common issues, etc.)

Any suggestions?

Paul

From: AF  On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at CCR1072-1G-8S+.

Anybody selling these used?  Looking for a pair of them

Paul

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:41 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

Science Fiction “High Life”

Two thumbs down down down.

Zero budget for a space flick.  Lots of dryer hose and liquid tight.
Space suits that don’t have seals for the helmets (looks like burlap in the 
back).

The story line/plot was minimally OK but it was long and the obviously cheap 
cheap cheap effects ruin it for nerds.

Weird gratuitous one way sex scene with Jullitte Binoche could have been 
slightly interesting but is was just gross and disturbing.

Don’t waste money on this.
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Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+

2019-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman 
Open a new thread might get you some more attention.  You replied to
Chuck's.

Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:27 AM Paul McCall  wrote:

> We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at
> CCR1072-1G-8S+.
>
>
>
> Anybody selling these used?  Looking for a pair of them
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:41 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
>
>
>
> Science Fiction “High Life”
>
>
>
> Two thumbs down down down.
>
>
>
> Zero budget for a space flick.  Lots of dryer hose and liquid tight.
>
> Space suits that don’t have seals for the helmets (looks like burlap in
> the back).
>
>
>
> The story line/plot was minimally OK but it was long and the obviously
> cheap cheap cheap effects ruin it for nerds.
>
>
>
> Weird gratuitous one way sex scene with Jullitte Binoche could have been
> slightly interesting but is was just gross and disturbing.
>
>
>
> Don’t waste money on this.
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