Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage?
Just buy a Thinkpad T570/470 so you have a better laptop and can find parts for ages. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 7:03 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > I think we plateaued a few years ago. I'm still running a desktop from 10 > years ago and the only time it struggles is when my 32 GB of RAM fills up > with everything I've got going on (mostly Chrome) or when processing videos > for TBW. Having a faster CPU would be nice for single-threaded applications > like ArcMap. I need to build a new one, but that's mostly because I can't > afford the downtime of formatting my 10 year old Windows 10 install and > then reinstalling everything. > > I don't even buy new laptops anymore. Pay half as much for a laptop that's > a couple years old, but still does everything great. Better off doing that > and then buying a great SSD to stuff in it. You get a blazing fast machine > that still costs less. > > Then again, I've only had to buy a new laptop battery once, ever. *shrugs* > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -------------- > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:20:38 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? > > Maybe I’ve got an old lap. > > > > Actually since it was top of the line everything at the time, it’s still > not that different from the latest version. And it looks and works like > new. Only 6th gen i7, but CPU performance is only increasing incrementally > between generations these days. I think the biggest improvement in the > current version is they moved the camera to the top of the bezel. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke > *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:34 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? > > > > But it's still an old laptop... > > On 3/26/2020 6:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Hey, the battery was only $70. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf > Of *Nate Burke > *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:55 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? > > > > Are you married to that laptop? Just get a whole new machine. > > > https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Display-Graphics-Keyboard-A515-43-R19L/dp/B07RF1XD36 > I only look for things with a wired Ethernet port. Dongles drive me > crazy. > > > On 3/26/2020 5:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I’m just afraid that by 2022 they won’t be available anymore. Or I guess > if they are, maybe they will have been sitting in an Amazon warehouse for 2 > years? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf > Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:44 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? > > > > Hit or miss on these. They're so cheap anymore on old laptops, if it's bad > I just get another, I don't know how they store them but its 50 50 on good > or dead > > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 5:40 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I have a 4 year old Dell XPS 15 and I just replaced the Li-ion battery for > the second time. I guess that’s not shocking. > > > > But Dell wasn’t even selling replacement batteries the first time. I did > get a free one from them because they had a problem with the original > batteries swelling. That replacement didn’t swell, but the runtime had > decreased dramatically. > > > > The no-name replacement (bought from Amazon) fit perfectly, and looked > just like the Dell battery except for a sticker that I’m pretty sure covers > the Dell name. It’s a pretty nice laptop and I can’t guarantee I’ll be > ready to retire it 2 years from now when this battery will probably need > replacing. Amazon still has them in stock, should I order another one? > > > &g
Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage?
I think we plateaued a few years ago. I'm still running a desktop from 10 years ago and the only time it struggles is when my 32 GB of RAM fills up with everything I've got going on (mostly Chrome) or when processing videos for TBW. Having a faster CPU would be nice for single-threaded applications like ArcMap. I need to build a new one, but that's mostly because I can't afford the downtime of formatting my 10 year old Windows 10 install and then reinstalling everything. I don't even buy new laptops anymore. Pay half as much for a laptop that's a couple years old, but still does everything great. Better off doing that and then buying a great SSD to stuff in it. You get a blazing fast machine that still costs less. Then again, I've only had to buy a new laptop battery once, ever. *shrugs* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:20:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? Maybe I’ve got an old lap. Actually since it was top of the line everything at the time, it’s still not that different from the latest version. And it looks and works like new. Only 6th gen i7, but CPU performance is only increasing incrementally between generations these days. I think the biggest improvement in the current version is they moved the camera to the top of the bezel. From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:34 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? But it's still an old laptop... On 3/26/2020 6:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Hey, the battery was only $70. From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? Are you married to that laptop? Just get a whole new machine. https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Display-Graphics-Keyboard-A515-43-R19L/dp/B07RF1XD36 I only look for things with a wired Ethernet port. Dongles drive me crazy. On 3/26/2020 5:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I’m just afraid that by 2022 they won’t be available anymore. Or I guess if they are, maybe they will have been sitting in an Amazon warehouse for 2 years? From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? Hit or miss on these. They're so cheap anymore on old laptops, if it's bad I just get another, I don't know how they store them but its 50 50 on good or dead On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 5:40 PM Ken Hohhof < af...@kwisp.com > wrote: I have a 4 year old Dell XPS 15 and I just replaced the Li-ion battery for the second time. I guess that’s not shocking. But Dell wasn’t even selling replacement batteries the first time. I did get a free one from them because they had a problem with the original batteries swelling. That replacement didn’t swell, but the runtime had decreased dramatically. The no-name replacement (bought from Amazon) fit perfectly, and looked just like the Dell battery except for a sticker that I’m pretty sure covers the Dell name. It’s a pretty nice laptop and I can’t guarantee I’ll be ready to retire it 2 years from now when this battery will probably need replacing. Amazon still has them in stock, should I order another one? Or is putting a spare battery on the shelf stupid, will it just gradually discharge and go bad? It’s not very difficult to change the battery, would it help to swap batteries every 6 months or something? I actually saw something on the Internet that Li-ion batteries should be stored partially not fully charged. And of course they can’t put anything on the Internet unless it’s true. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage?
Maybe I've got an old lap. Actually since it was top of the line everything at the time, it's still not that different from the latest version. And it looks and works like new. Only 6th gen i7, but CPU performance is only increasing incrementally between generations these days. I think the biggest improvement in the current version is they moved the camera to the top of the bezel. From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:34 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? But it's still an old laptop... On 3/26/2020 6:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Hey, the battery was only $70. From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? Are you married to that laptop? Just get a whole new machine. https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Display-Graphics-Keyboard-A515-43-R19L/dp/B07RF1 XD36 I only look for things with a wired Ethernet port. Dongles drive me crazy. On 3/26/2020 5:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I'm just afraid that by 2022 they won't be available anymore. Or I guess if they are, maybe they will have been sitting in an Amazon warehouse for 2 years? From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? Hit or miss on these. They're so cheap anymore on old laptops, if it's bad I just get another, I don't know how they store them but its 50 50 on good or dead On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 5:40 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: I have a 4 year old Dell XPS 15 and I just replaced the Li-ion battery for the second time. I guess that's not shocking. But Dell wasn't even selling replacement batteries the first time. I did get a free one from them because they had a problem with the original batteries swelling. That replacement didn't swell, but the runtime had decreased dramatically. The no-name replacement (bought from Amazon) fit perfectly, and looked just like the Dell battery except for a sticker that I'm pretty sure covers the Dell name. It's a pretty nice laptop and I can't guarantee I'll be ready to retire it 2 years from now when this battery will probably need replacing. Amazon still has them in stock, should I order another one? Or is putting a spare battery on the shelf stupid, will it just gradually discharge and go bad? It's not very difficult to change the battery, would it help to swap batteries every 6 months or something? I actually saw something on the Internet that Li-ion batteries should be stored partially not fully charged. And of course they can't put anything on the Internet unless it's true. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage?
But it's still an old laptop...
On 3/26/2020 6:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Hey, the battery was only $70.
*From:*AF *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:55 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage?
Are you married to that laptop? Just get a whole new machine.
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Display-Graphics-Keyboard-A515-43-R19L/dp/B07RF1XD36
I only look for things with a wired Ethernet port. Dongles drive me
crazy.
On 3/26/2020 5:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I’m just afraid that by 2022 they won’t be available anymore. Or
I guess if they are, maybe they will have been sitting in an
Amazon warehouse for 2 years?
*From:* AF
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:44 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in
storage?
Hit or miss on these. They're so cheap anymore on old laptops, if
it's bad I just get another, I don't know how they store them but
its 50 50 on good or dead
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 5:40 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
I have a 4 year old Dell XPS 15 and I just replaced the Li-ion
battery for the second time. I guess that’s not shocking.
But Dell wasn’t even selling replacement batteries the first
time. I did get a free one from them because they had a
problem with the original batteries swelling. That
replacement didn’t swell, but the runtime had decreased
dramatically.
The no-name replacement (bought from Amazon) fit perfectly,
and looked just like the Dell battery except for a sticker
that I’m pretty sure covers the Dell name. It’s a pretty nice
laptop and I can’t guarantee I’ll be ready to retire it 2
years from now when this battery will probably need replacing.
Amazon still has them in stock, should I order another one?
Or is putting a spare battery on the shelf stupid, will it
just gradually discharge and go bad? It’s not very difficult
to change the battery, would it help to swap batteries every 6
months or something? I actually saw something on the Internet
that Li-ion batteries should be stored partially not fully
charged. And of course they can’t put anything on the
Internet unless it’s true.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage?
Hey, the battery was only $70. From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? Are you married to that laptop? Just get a whole new machine. https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Display-Graphics-Keyboard-A515-43-R19L/dp/B07RF1 XD36 I only look for things with a wired Ethernet port. Dongles drive me crazy. On 3/26/2020 5:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I'm just afraid that by 2022 they won't be available anymore. Or I guess if they are, maybe they will have been sitting in an Amazon warehouse for 2 years? From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? Hit or miss on these. They're so cheap anymore on old laptops, if it's bad I just get another, I don't know how they store them but its 50 50 on good or dead On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 5:40 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: I have a 4 year old Dell XPS 15 and I just replaced the Li-ion battery for the second time. I guess that's not shocking. But Dell wasn't even selling replacement batteries the first time. I did get a free one from them because they had a problem with the original batteries swelling. That replacement didn't swell, but the runtime had decreased dramatically. The no-name replacement (bought from Amazon) fit perfectly, and looked just like the Dell battery except for a sticker that I'm pretty sure covers the Dell name. It's a pretty nice laptop and I can't guarantee I'll be ready to retire it 2 years from now when this battery will probably need replacing. Amazon still has them in stock, should I order another one? Or is putting a spare battery on the shelf stupid, will it just gradually discharge and go bad? It's not very difficult to change the battery, would it help to swap batteries every 6 months or something? I actually saw something on the Internet that Li-ion batteries should be stored partially not fully charged. And of course they can't put anything on the Internet unless it's true. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage?
Are you married to that laptop? Just get a whole new machine. https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Display-Graphics-Keyboard-A515-43-R19L/dp/B07RF1XD36 I only look for things with a wired Ethernet port. Dongles drive me crazy. On 3/26/2020 5:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I’m just afraid that by 2022 they won’t be available anymore. Or I guess if they are, maybe they will have been sitting in an Amazon warehouse for 2 years? *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:44 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? Hit or miss on these. They're so cheap anymore on old laptops, if it's bad I just get another, I don't know how they store them but its 50 50 on good or dead On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 5:40 PM Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: I have a 4 year old Dell XPS 15 and I just replaced the Li-ion battery for the second time. I guess that’s not shocking. But Dell wasn’t even selling replacement batteries the first time. I did get a free one from them because they had a problem with the original batteries swelling. That replacement didn’t swell, but the runtime had decreased dramatically. The no-name replacement (bought from Amazon) fit perfectly, and looked just like the Dell battery except for a sticker that I’m pretty sure covers the Dell name. It’s a pretty nice laptop and I can’t guarantee I’ll be ready to retire it 2 years from now when this battery will probably need replacing. Amazon still has them in stock, should I order another one? Or is putting a spare battery on the shelf stupid, will it just gradually discharge and go bad? It’s not very difficult to change the battery, would it help to swap batteries every 6 months or something? I actually saw something on the Internet that Li-ion batteries should be stored partially not fully charged. And of course they can’t put anything on the Internet unless it’s true. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage?
I’m just afraid that by 2022 they won’t be available anymore. Or I guess if they are, maybe they will have been sitting in an Amazon warehouse for 2 years? From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage? Hit or miss on these. They're so cheap anymore on old laptops, if it's bad I just get another, I don't know how they store them but its 50 50 on good or dead On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 5:40 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: I have a 4 year old Dell XPS 15 and I just replaced the Li-ion battery for the second time. I guess that’s not shocking. But Dell wasn’t even selling replacement batteries the first time. I did get a free one from them because they had a problem with the original batteries swelling. That replacement didn’t swell, but the runtime had decreased dramatically. The no-name replacement (bought from Amazon) fit perfectly, and looked just like the Dell battery except for a sticker that I’m pretty sure covers the Dell name. It’s a pretty nice laptop and I can’t guarantee I’ll be ready to retire it 2 years from now when this battery will probably need replacing. Amazon still has them in stock, should I order another one? Or is putting a spare battery on the shelf stupid, will it just gradually discharge and go bad? It’s not very difficult to change the battery, would it help to swap batteries every 6 months or something? I actually saw something on the Internet that Li-ion batteries should be stored partially not fully charged. And of course they can’t put anything on the Internet unless it’s true. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT - will spare laptop battery go bad in storage?
Hit or miss on these. They're so cheap anymore on old laptops, if it's bad I just get another, I don't know how they store them but its 50 50 on good or dead On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 5:40 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I have a 4 year old Dell XPS 15 and I just replaced the Li-ion battery for > the second time. I guess that’s not shocking. > > > > But Dell wasn’t even selling replacement batteries the first time. I did > get a free one from them because they had a problem with the original > batteries swelling. That replacement didn’t swell, but the runtime had > decreased dramatically. > > > > The no-name replacement (bought from Amazon) fit perfectly, and looked > just like the Dell battery except for a sticker that I’m pretty sure covers > the Dell name. It’s a pretty nice laptop and I can’t guarantee I’ll be > ready to retire it 2 years from now when this battery will probably need > replacing. Amazon still has them in stock, should I order another one? > > > > Or is putting a spare battery on the shelf stupid, will it just gradually > discharge and go bad? It’s not very difficult to change the battery, would > it help to swap batteries every 6 months or something? I actually saw > something on the Internet that Li-ion batteries should be stored partially > not fully charged. And of course they can’t put anything on the Internet > unless it’s true. > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
