Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-20 Thread Josh Luthman 
Shop vac and a plastic bag with some air in it (tape it closed).


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On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:54 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> You can get special equipment. Last time I blew a string 600 feet with a
> shop vac. YMMV.
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:15 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Where can I source fittings to blow a pull string through?  I'm going to
>> rent a compressor from Sunbelt, but I'm guessing I'm going to have to bring
>> my own hardware to attach to the conduit.  The wire pulling lube did not do
>> the job, so I'm going to try and power through it with a decent amount of
>> air pressure.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:16 PM Chuck Hogg 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is the best stuff...IMO
>>>
>>> https://www.polywater.com/product-category/polywater-
>>> lubricants-selection/
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 I tried a vacuum myself here and there.  It doesn't solve this problem
 IME.

 Lube just always makes it easier.  I used the Ideal stuff on 2" and 6
 months later I didn't see anything weird.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:

> I would second the try blowing and vacuum a small pull string then
> pull through some mule tape. The problem with the rod is it tends to kink
> after a long distance and can get tangled in the current cable. A pull
> string attached to a plastic bag tends to ride on top. Also give the
> existing cable a little tug from each end make sure it isn't slacked up in
> the middle from being pushed with the rod.
>
> On 9/16/2018 8:37 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> Polywater was the best we ever found. I also would try that and
> blowing or vacuuming instead of a rod.
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 8:32 PM Tim Withrow via AF 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical
>> supplier. 20+ bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a
>> small job it may be all you need, but this seems not the case.
>> --
>> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:
>> I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter
>> cable installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been 
>> trying
>> to get a fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around
>> 230' going from either end, probably due to friction with the other 
>> cable.
>> I'm considering using something like Ideal cable lube to get the extra
>> distance, does this stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a while?
>> Anything else I should be trying?
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-18 Thread Jon Langeler 
Sometime you just have to try.  you might need a y-block and they run a good 
$3000 or more. For 350’, maybe you could notch the conduit and screw the line 
blower in. But then you might get some thread marks on your cable.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Sep 18, 2018, at 11:41 PM, Jason McKemie 
>  wrote:
> 
> Will any of these accommodate conduit with cable already installed?
> 
>> On Tuesday, September 18, 2018, Jon Langeler  
>> wrote:
>> A couple options:
>> 
>> https://www.condux.com/products.php?id=170
>> 
>> https://craftworktools.com/89815.html
>> 
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Jason McKemie 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where can I source fittings to blow a pull string through?  I'm going to 
>>> rent a compressor from Sunbelt, but I'm guessing I'm going to have to bring 
>>> my own hardware to attach to the conduit.  The wire pulling lube did not do 
>>> the job, so I'm going to try and power through it with a decent amount of 
>>> air pressure.
>>> 
 On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:16 PM Chuck Hogg  
 wrote:
 This is the best stuff...IMO
 
 https://www.polywater.com/product-category/polywater-lubricants-selection/
 
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman 
>  wrote:
> I tried a vacuum myself here and there.  It doesn't solve this problem 
> IME.
> 
> Lube just always makes it easier.  I used the Ideal stuff on 2" and 6 
> months later I didn't see anything weird.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:
>> I would second the try blowing and vacuum a small pull string then pull 
>> through some mule tape. The problem with the rod is it tends to kink 
>> after a long distance and can get tangled in the current cable. A pull 
>> string attached to a plastic bag tends to ride on top. Also give the 
>> existing cable a little tug from each end make sure it isn't slacked up 
>> in the middle from being pushed with the rod.
>> 
>>> On 9/16/2018 8:37 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>> Polywater was the best we ever found. I also would try that and blowing 
>>> or vacuuming instead of a rod. 
>>> 
 On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 8:32 PM Tim Withrow via AF  
 wrote:
 
 You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical supplier. 
 20+ bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small 
 job it may be all you need, but this seems not the case.
 On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:
 I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable 
 installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying 
 to get a fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up 
 around 230' going from either end, probably due to friction with the 
 other cable. I'm considering using something like Ideal cable lube to 
 get the extra distance, does this stuff thicken up and turn to glue 
 after a while? Anything else I should be trying?
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-18 Thread Jason McKemie 
Will any of these accommodate conduit with cable already installed?

On Tuesday, September 18, 2018, Jon Langeler 
wrote:

> A couple options:
>
> https://www.condux.com/products.php?id=170
>
> https://craftworktools.com/89815.html
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Jason McKemie  com> wrote:
>
> Where can I source fittings to blow a pull string through?  I'm going to
> rent a compressor from Sunbelt, but I'm guessing I'm going to have to bring
> my own hardware to attach to the conduit.  The wire pulling lube did not do
> the job, so I'm going to try and power through it with a decent amount of
> air pressure.
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:16 PM Chuck Hogg 
> wrote:
>
>> This is the best stuff...IMO
>>
>> https://www.polywater.com/product-category/polywater-
>> lubricants-selection/
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried a vacuum myself here and there.  It doesn't solve this problem
>>> IME.
>>>
>>> Lube just always makes it easier.  I used the Ideal stuff on 2" and 6
>>> months later I didn't see anything weird.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:
>>>
 I would second the try blowing and vacuum a small pull string then pull
 through some mule tape. The problem with the rod is it tends to kink after
 a long distance and can get tangled in the current cable. A pull string
 attached to a plastic bag tends to ride on top. Also give the existing
 cable a little tug from each end make sure it isn't slacked up in the
 middle from being pushed with the rod.

 On 9/16/2018 8:37 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

 Polywater was the best we ever found. I also would try that and blowing
 or vacuuming instead of a rod.

 On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 8:32 PM Tim Withrow via AF 
 wrote:

>
> You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical supplier.
> 20+ bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small job
> it may be all you need, but this seems not the case.
> --
> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:
> I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable
> installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying to
> get a fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around 
> 230'
> going from either end, probably due to friction with the other cable. I'm
> considering using something like Ideal cable lube to get the extra
> distance, does this stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a while?
> Anything else I should be trying?
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Fabien 
We have the GMP line blowing kit that Jon posted - works great.

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:31 PM, Jon Langeler 
wrote:

> A couple options:
>
> https://www.condux.com/products.php?id=170
>
> https://craftworktools.com/89815.html
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Jason McKemie  com> wrote:
>
> Where can I source fittings to blow a pull string through?  I'm going to
> rent a compressor from Sunbelt, but I'm guessing I'm going to have to bring
> my own hardware to attach to the conduit.  The wire pulling lube did not do
> the job, so I'm going to try and power through it with a decent amount of
> air pressure.
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:16 PM Chuck Hogg 
> wrote:
>
>> This is the best stuff...IMO
>>
>> https://www.polywater.com/product-category/polywater-
>> lubricants-selection/
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried a vacuum myself here and there.  It doesn't solve this problem
>>> IME.
>>>
>>> Lube just always makes it easier.  I used the Ideal stuff on 2" and 6
>>> months later I didn't see anything weird.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:
>>>
 I would second the try blowing and vacuum a small pull string then pull
 through some mule tape. The problem with the rod is it tends to kink after
 a long distance and can get tangled in the current cable. A pull string
 attached to a plastic bag tends to ride on top. Also give the existing
 cable a little tug from each end make sure it isn't slacked up in the
 middle from being pushed with the rod.

 On 9/16/2018 8:37 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

 Polywater was the best we ever found. I also would try that and blowing
 or vacuuming instead of a rod.

 On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 8:32 PM Tim Withrow via AF 
 wrote:

>
> You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical supplier.
> 20+ bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small job
> it may be all you need, but this seems not the case.
> --
> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:
> I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable
> installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying to
> get a fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around 
> 230'
> going from either end, probably due to friction with the other cable. I'm
> considering using something like Ideal cable lube to get the extra
> distance, does this stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a while?
> Anything else I should be trying?
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-18 Thread Lewis Bergman 
You can get special equipment. Last time I blew a string 600 feet with a
shop vac. YMMV.

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:15 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Where can I source fittings to blow a pull string through?  I'm going to
> rent a compressor from Sunbelt, but I'm guessing I'm going to have to bring
> my own hardware to attach to the conduit.  The wire pulling lube did not do
> the job, so I'm going to try and power through it with a decent amount of
> air pressure.
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:16 PM Chuck Hogg 
> wrote:
>
>> This is the best stuff...IMO
>>
>> https://www.polywater.com/product-category/polywater-lubricants-selection/
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried a vacuum myself here and there.  It doesn't solve this problem
>>> IME.
>>>
>>> Lube just always makes it easier.  I used the Ideal stuff on 2" and 6
>>> months later I didn't see anything weird.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:
>>>
 I would second the try blowing and vacuum a small pull string then pull
 through some mule tape. The problem with the rod is it tends to kink after
 a long distance and can get tangled in the current cable. A pull string
 attached to a plastic bag tends to ride on top. Also give the existing
 cable a little tug from each end make sure it isn't slacked up in the
 middle from being pushed with the rod.

 On 9/16/2018 8:37 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

 Polywater was the best we ever found. I also would try that and blowing
 or vacuuming instead of a rod.

 On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 8:32 PM Tim Withrow via AF 
 wrote:

>
> You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical supplier.
> 20+ bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small job
> it may be all you need, but this seems not the case.
> --
> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:
> I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable
> installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying to
> get a fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around 
> 230'
> going from either end, probably due to friction with the other cable. I'm
> considering using something like Ideal cable lube to get the extra
> distance, does this stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a while?
> Anything else I should be trying?
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-18 Thread Jon Langeler 
A couple options:

https://www.condux.com/products.php?id=170

https://craftworktools.com/89815.html

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Jason McKemie  
> wrote:
> 
> Where can I source fittings to blow a pull string through?  I'm going to rent 
> a compressor from Sunbelt, but I'm guessing I'm going to have to bring my own 
> hardware to attach to the conduit.  The wire pulling lube did not do the job, 
> so I'm going to try and power through it with a decent amount of air pressure.
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:16 PM Chuck Hogg  
>> wrote:
>> This is the best stuff...IMO
>> 
>> https://www.polywater.com/product-category/polywater-lubricants-selection/
>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman  
>>> wrote:
>>> I tried a vacuum myself here and there.  It doesn't solve this problem IME.
>>> 
>>> Lube just always makes it easier.  I used the Ideal stuff on 2" and 6 
>>> months later I didn't see anything weird.
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
 On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:
 I would second the try blowing and vacuum a small pull string then pull 
 through some mule tape. The problem with the rod is it tends to kink after 
 a long distance and can get tangled in the current cable. A pull string 
 attached to a plastic bag tends to ride on top. Also give the existing 
 cable a little tug from each end make sure it isn't slacked up in the 
 middle from being pushed   with the rod.
 
> On 9/16/2018 8:37 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> Polywater was the best we ever found. I also would try that and blowing 
> or vacuuming instead of a rod. 
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 8:32 PM Tim Withrow via AF  wrote:
>> 
>> You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical supplier. 
>> 20+ bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small 
>> job it may be all you need, but this seems not the case.
>> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:
>> I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable 
>> installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying to 
>> get a fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around 
>> 230' going from either end, probably due to friction with the other 
>> cable. I'm considering using something like Ideal cable lube to get the 
>> extra distance, does this stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a 
>> while? Anything else I should be trying?
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-18 Thread Jason McKemie 
Where can I source fittings to blow a pull string through?  I'm going to
rent a compressor from Sunbelt, but I'm guessing I'm going to have to bring
my own hardware to attach to the conduit.  The wire pulling lube did not do
the job, so I'm going to try and power through it with a decent amount of
air pressure.

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:16 PM Chuck Hogg 
wrote:

> This is the best stuff...IMO
>
> https://www.polywater.com/product-category/polywater-lubricants-selection/
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> I tried a vacuum myself here and there.  It doesn't solve this problem
>> IME.
>>
>> Lube just always makes it easier.  I used the Ideal stuff on 2" and 6
>> months later I didn't see anything weird.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:
>>
>>> I would second the try blowing and vacuum a small pull string then pull
>>> through some mule tape. The problem with the rod is it tends to kink after
>>> a long distance and can get tangled in the current cable. A pull string
>>> attached to a plastic bag tends to ride on top. Also give the existing
>>> cable a little tug from each end make sure it isn't slacked up in the
>>> middle from being pushed with the rod.
>>>
>>> On 9/16/2018 8:37 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>
>>> Polywater was the best we ever found. I also would try that and blowing
>>> or vacuuming instead of a rod.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 8:32 PM Tim Withrow via AF 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical supplier.
 20+ bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small job
 it may be all you need, but this seems not the case.
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 On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:
 I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable
 installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying to
 get a fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around 230'
 going from either end, probably due to friction with the other cable. I'm
 considering using something like Ideal cable lube to get the extra
 distance, does this stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a while?
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-17 Thread Seth Mattinen 

On 9/17/18 10:15 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

This is the best stuff...IMO

https://www.polywater.com/product-category/polywater-lubricants-selection/




The reviews on this one are pretty good:

https://www.amazon.com/Passion-Lubes-Natural-Water-Based-Lubricant/dp/B005MR3IVO

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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-17 Thread Chuck Hogg 
This is the best stuff...IMO

https://www.polywater.com/product-category/polywater-lubricants-selection/

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I tried a vacuum myself here and there.  It doesn't solve this problem IME.
>
> Lube just always makes it easier.  I used the Ideal stuff on 2" and 6
> months later I didn't see anything weird.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:
>
>> I would second the try blowing and vacuum a small pull string then pull
>> through some mule tape. The problem with the rod is it tends to kink after
>> a long distance and can get tangled in the current cable. A pull string
>> attached to a plastic bag tends to ride on top. Also give the existing
>> cable a little tug from each end make sure it isn't slacked up in the
>> middle from being pushed with the rod.
>>
>> On 9/16/2018 8:37 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> Polywater was the best we ever found. I also would try that and blowing
>> or vacuuming instead of a rod.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 8:32 PM Tim Withrow via AF  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical supplier.
>>> 20+ bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small job
>>> it may be all you need, but this seems not the case.
>>> --
>>> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:
>>> I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable
>>> installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying to
>>> get a fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around 230'
>>> going from either end, probably due to friction with the other cable. I'm
>>> considering using something like Ideal cable lube to get the extra
>>> distance, does this stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a while?
>>> Anything else I should be trying?
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman 
I tried a vacuum myself here and there.  It doesn't solve this problem IME.

Lube just always makes it easier.  I used the Ideal stuff on 2" and 6
months later I didn't see anything weird.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 11:59 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:

> I would second the try blowing and vacuum a small pull string then pull
> through some mule tape. The problem with the rod is it tends to kink after
> a long distance and can get tangled in the current cable. A pull string
> attached to a plastic bag tends to ride on top. Also give the existing
> cable a little tug from each end make sure it isn't slacked up in the
> middle from being pushed with the rod.
>
> On 9/16/2018 8:37 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> Polywater was the best we ever found. I also would try that and blowing or
> vacuuming instead of a rod.
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 8:32 PM Tim Withrow via AF  wrote:
>
>>
>> You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical supplier.
>> 20+ bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small job
>> it may be all you need, but this seems not the case.
>> --
>> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:
>> I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable
>> installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying to
>> get a fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around 230'
>> going from either end, probably due to friction with the other cable. I'm
>> considering using something like Ideal cable lube to get the extra
>> distance, does this stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a while?
>> Anything else I should be trying?
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-16 Thread Trey Scarborough 
I would second the try blowing and vacuum a small pull string then pull 
through some mule tape. The problem with the rod is it tends to kink 
after a long distance and can get tangled in the current cable. A pull 
string attached to a plastic bag tends to ride on top. Also give the 
existing cable a little tug from each end make sure it isn't slacked up 
in the middle from being pushed with the rod.



On 9/16/2018 8:37 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
Polywater was the best we ever found. I also would try that and 
blowing or vacuuming instead of a rod.


On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 8:32 PM Tim Withrow via AF > wrote:



You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical
supplier. 20+ bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal
lube,if a small job it may be all you need, but this seems not the
case.


On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter
cable installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've
been trying to get a fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am
getting hung up around 230' going from either end, probably due to
friction with the other cable. I'm considering using something
like Ideal cable lube to get the extra distance, does this stuff
thicken up and turn to glue after a while? Anything else I should
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-16 Thread Lewis Bergman 
Polywater was the best we ever found. I also would try that and blowing or
vacuuming instead of a rod.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 8:32 PM Tim Withrow via AF  wrote:

>
> You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical supplier. 20+
> bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small job it
> may be all you need, but this seems not the case.
> --
> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:
> I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable
> installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying to
> get a fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around 230'
> going from either end, probably due to friction with the other cable. I'm
> considering using something like Ideal cable lube to get the extra
> distance, does this stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a while?
> Anything else I should be trying?
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-16 Thread Tim Withrow via AF 

You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical supplier. 20+ 
bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small job it may be 
all you need, but this seems not the case.




On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:

I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable 
installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying to get a 
fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around 230' going 
from either end, probably due to friction with the other cable. I'm considering 
using something like Ideal cable lube to get the extra distance, does this 
stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a while? Anything else I should be 
trying? 

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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

2018-09-16 Thread Tim Withrow via AF 
You should be able to spice oukking lube from an electrical supplier. 20+ bucks 
a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small job it may be all 
you need, but this seems not the case.



On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:

I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable 
installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying to get a 
fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around 230' going 
from either end, probably due to friction with the other cable. I'm considering 
using something like Ideal cable lube to get the extra distance, does this 
stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a while? Anything else I should be 
trying? 

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