Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
It's good that they now have real beta testers, from what I could tell for the wifi-based gear the users were the beta testers. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I've learned to assume that there are a few people that will have had whatever UBNT releases (and some things they don't) for months before we pleebs find out. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:59:25 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X No fair... I missed out on the leakrd specs. So it sounds like it's half duplex only and using one antenna? On Feb 3, 2015 8:54 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: who said they cared what the dish polarity was? it may be a fit thing, they look awful tall... *cough* On 02/03/2015 05:49 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Why do the radios care what the dish polarity is? On Feb 3, 2015 7:32 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: cost of a rocket dish. you can modify a regular rocket dish easily by using the feedhorn notch as a template, marking, and drilling. makes it easy to swap back and forth between dual slant to h/v. On 02/03/2015 02:14 PM, Josh Baird wrote: So, how much are the dishes that they require? --- The airFiber AF-5X radio operates only with an airFiber antenna or a retrofitted RocketDish™ antenna. airFiber antenna models: • AF-5G23-S45 • AF-5G30-S45 • AF-5G34-S45 Retrofit accessory for RocketDish (RD-5G30/RD-5G34): • AF-5G-OMT-S45 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:* Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales= ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X [image: Ubiquiti Networks] http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg] Starting at [image: $399 MSRP] World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology -- Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.png] http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.png] http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBL[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.png] http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png] http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
Awww we will miss you Colin ! Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 9:18 PM For all the people not going to AFMUG this year (including me), Chuck can you post details on the list once it's showtime? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Chuck Macenski ch...@macenski.com wrote: Hi, Catch-up with me tomorrow at Animal Farm and I will tell you all about it :) Chuck On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: No fair... I missed out on the leakrd specs. So it sounds like it's half duplex only and using one antenna? On Feb 3, 2015 8:54 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: who said they cared what the dish polarity was? it may be a fit thing, they look awful tall... *cough* On 02/03/2015 05:49 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Why do the radios care what the dish polarity is? On Feb 3, 2015 7:32 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: cost of a rocket dish. you can modify a regular rocket dish easily by using the feedhorn notch as a template, marking, and drilling. makes it easy to swap back and forth between dual slant to h/v. On 02/03/2015 02:14 PM, Josh Baird wrote: So, how much are the dishes that they require? --- The airFiber AF-5X radio operates only with an airFiber antenna or a retrofitted RocketDish™ antenna. airFiber antenna models: • AF-5G23-S45 • AF-5G30-S45 • AF-5G34-S45 Retrofit accessory for RocketDish (RD-5G30/RD-5G34): • AF-5G-OMT-S45 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:* Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales= ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X [image: Ubiquiti Networks] http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg] Starting at [image: $399 MSRP] World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology -- Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.png] http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.png] http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBL[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.png] http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png] http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser
Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 PTP450
I am going to assume that is a 5Mhz wide channel? this is about what we would expect but I see double that in a 10mhz wide channel. We love our 3.65 in our area. We are using everything stock on most of our deployments and installs. On 2/3/2015 1:55 PM, That One Guy wrote: 9 miles and some change with an sm/reflector from the stock sector with output power turned down to match the loss from when we split it Downlink Status Receive Power Level : -75.5 (-77.8 B / -79.4 A) dBm Signal Strength Ratio : 1.6 dB B - A Signal to Noise Ratio : 16 B / 19 A dB Receive Fragments Modulation : Path B:QPSK:70% 16-QAM:29% Path A:QPSK:54% 16-QAM:44% 64-QAM:1% Latest Remote Link Test Efficiency Percentage : NA % BER Total Avg Results : 2.965999e-04 Uplink Status Power Level : -67.5 (-70.0 B / -71.0 A) dBm Signal Strength Ratio : 4.0 dB B - A Signal to Noise Ratio : 25 dB B / 26 dB A Latest Remote Link Test Efficiency Percentage : NA % Local Status Session Status : REGISTERED VC 19 Rate 8X/4X Latest Local Link Test Results Stats for LUID: 3 Test Duration: 2 Pkt Length: 1714 *Link Test with Bridging and MIR* VC DownlinkUplink Aggregate Packet Transmit Packet Receive Actual Actual 19 11149056 bps (11.15 Mbps)4562176 bps (4.56 Mbps) 15711232 bps (15.71 Mbps, 1104 pps) 627 (313 pps) 1582(791 pps) *Efficiency* DownlinkUplink Efficiency Fragments count Signal to Noise Ratio Efficiency Fragments count Signal to Noise Ratio Actual ExpectedActual Expected 85% 50924 43551 17 dB B 22 dB A 79% 22392 17821 20 dB B 20 dB A * Link Quality Downlink * RF Path Modulation Fragments Modulation Percentage Average Corrected Bit Errors B QPSK16205 84% 0.871 B 16-QAM 316216% 3.713 A QPSK18110 77% 0.145 A 16-QAM 523722% 0.480 *Uplink * RF Path Modulation Fragments Modulation Percentage Average Corrected Bit Errors B QPSK421250% 1.059 B 16-QAM 421250% 1.059 A QPSK425250% 0.929 A 16-QAM 425350% 0.878 *Currently transmitting at:* VC 19 Rate 8X/4X On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Dan Petermann d...@wyoming.com mailto:d...@wyoming.com wrote: What kind of distance are you guys seeing for a LOS shot on 3.65? What antennas are you using to get that distance. I need 10Mbs aggregate. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 --
Re: [AFMUG] Cable reel stand for tower work
That company’s name is probably holding them back. Also probably lots of people looking for violins and tubas going WTF? From: Chris Herrington Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 8:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable reel stand for tower work I have been handling cable for 30 years, and find that the carriers I get from this company are the best. http://www.musicsupply.com/shop.php?cat=13 http://www.musicsupply.com/shop.php?cat=14 I am actually surprised that they have not broken into distribution, and seem to focus on just one industry, but these are great sturdy products. Chris Herrington, PMP, RCDD/OSPWD Specialist FCC Lic. # PG-11-19440 Cell 714-309-8714 ch...@fsc.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 5:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable reel stand for tower work We had these made before I was here On Jan 23, 2015 4:13 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: Any suggestions for a cable reel stand for spooling cable/coax out on a tower run? Our improvised methods need updating, and my google-fu is weak and I'm only finding either junk or stuff that's way too expensive. Think a pair of jack stands with a rod between them but nicer and with less falling over.
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
For all the people not going to AFMUG this year (including me), Chuck can you post details on the list once it's showtime? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Chuck Macenski ch...@macenski.com wrote: Hi, Catch-up with me tomorrow at Animal Farm and I will tell you all about it :) Chuck On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: No fair... I missed out on the leakrd specs. So it sounds like it's half duplex only and using one antenna? On Feb 3, 2015 8:54 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: who said they cared what the dish polarity was? it may be a fit thing, they look awful tall... *cough* On 02/03/2015 05:49 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Why do the radios care what the dish polarity is? On Feb 3, 2015 7:32 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: cost of a rocket dish. you can modify a regular rocket dish easily by using the feedhorn notch as a template, marking, and drilling. makes it easy to swap back and forth between dual slant to h/v. On 02/03/2015 02:14 PM, Josh Baird wrote: So, how much are the dishes that they require? --- The airFiber AF-5X radio operates only with an airFiber antenna or a retrofitted RocketDish™ antenna. airFiber antenna models: • AF-5G23-S45 • AF-5G30-S45 • AF-5G34-S45 Retrofit accessory for RocketDish (RD-5G30/RD-5G34): • AF-5G-OMT-S45 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:* Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales= ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X [image: Ubiquiti Networks] http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg] Starting at [image: $399 MSRP] World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology -- Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.png] http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.png] http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBL[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.png] http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png] http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Follow: Facebook http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=5b8ef22f32e=746526be63 | Twitter
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
No fair... I missed out on the leakrd specs. So it sounds like it's half duplex only and using one antenna? On Feb 3, 2015 8:54 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: who said they cared what the dish polarity was? it may be a fit thing, they look awful tall... *cough* On 02/03/2015 05:49 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Why do the radios care what the dish polarity is? On Feb 3, 2015 7:32 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: cost of a rocket dish. you can modify a regular rocket dish easily by using the feedhorn notch as a template, marking, and drilling. makes it easy to swap back and forth between dual slant to h/v. On 02/03/2015 02:14 PM, Josh Baird wrote: So, how much are the dishes that they require? --- The airFiber AF-5X radio operates only with an airFiber antenna or a retrofitted RocketDish™ antenna. airFiber antenna models: • AF-5G23-S45 • AF-5G30-S45 • AF-5G34-S45 Retrofit accessory for RocketDish (RD-5G30/RD-5G34): • AF-5G-OMT-S45 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:* Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales=ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X [image: Ubiquiti Networks] http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg] Starting at [image: $399 MSRP] World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology -- Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.png] http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.png] http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBL[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.png] http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png] http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Follow: Facebook http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=5b8ef22f32e=746526be63 | Twitter http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=23d150712de=746526be63 | YouTube http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1d2d4b0307e=746526be63 http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4458951288e=746526be63 [image: http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/open.php?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63]
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
Maybe AirFiber X doesn't exist, it's just Chuck's way of raking in the free drinks tonight. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:31 PM, Bruce Robertson br...@pooh.com wrote: He's already been spotted in the lobby of the Ramada!
Re: [AFMUG] why ATT has the strongest LTE signal
Seems like all of the new-ish stuff has the radios on the back of the multi-band antennas. Corning makes a fiber+power cable specifically for this model. On 02/03/2015 07:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Because they put their LTE radios at the top of their towers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo2fRHYWgLk Actually, I wonder if this is not quite as dumb as it sounds. Maybe they are saying they use remote radio heads rather than ground based radios and coax.
Re: [AFMUG] why ATT has the strongest LTE signal
A setup with 6x multi-band sector antennas, each with 2 heliax lines, on a 300ft tower - 3600ft of cable at $7/ft - that's $25K just in wiring and a huge windload up the tower. Compared to that fiber is pretty much free and invisible, they have to do it. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Seems like all of the new-ish stuff has the radios on the back of the multi-band antennas. Corning makes a fiber+power cable specifically for this model. On 02/03/2015 07:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Because they put their LTE radios at the top of their towers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo2fRHYWgLk Actually, I wonder if this is not quite as dumb as it sounds. Maybe they are saying they use remote radio heads rather than ground based radios and coax.
Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's
Real men eat streak! wish I wasn't in the air stilL! On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I left, heading for ruths Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I'm two minutes away Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 18:50, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: anyone else at rodizio's, im here in the waiting area Sent from my iPad Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:29 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I am going to have to pass on meatfestregrettably. I will most likely be popping some pills and will see you all in the morning Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rodizio's Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 6:16 PM I'm on my way to rodizio's now. I'll let them know how many of I'm the first there if everyone will let me know a count Il be there by 6:30-6:40 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 18:12, Brandon Yuchasz bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Didn't mean to cause a split. I just picked something I could get to easy. I'm hungry! I told them its a group of 6. So if anyone shows up we will have some room at the table. Brandon Yuchasz 906-392-0025 *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: i'm gonna be closer to 7 as well Sent from my iPad Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Louis Arsenault lo...@ntinet.com wrote: I was planning around 7. On Feb 3, 2015 5:42 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ruth's Cris is too rich for my credit card limit. I'll be at rodizio's at 6:30 or 7. Staring at ramada also but will take the tram probably Sent from my iPhone
Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's
Kurt, there are at least 3 groups here at Rodizio... Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I left, heading for ruths Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I'm two minutes away Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 18:50, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: anyone else at rodizio's, im here in the waiting area Sent from my iPad Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:29 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I am going to have to pass on meatfestregrettably. I will most likely be popping some pills and will see you all in the morning Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rodizio's Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 6:16 PM I'm on my way to rodizio's now. I'll let them know how many of I'm the first there if everyone will let me know a count Il be there by 6:30-6:40 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 18:12, Brandon Yuchasz bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Didn't mean to cause a split. I just picked something I could get to easy. I'm hungry! I told them its a group of 6. So if anyone shows up we will have some room at the table. Brandon Yuchasz 906-392-0025 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: i'm gonna be closer to 7 as well Sent from my iPad Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Louis Arsenault lo...@ntinet.com wrote: I was planning around 7. On Feb 3, 2015 5:42 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ruth's Cris is too rich for my credit card limit. I'll be at rodizio's at 6:30 or 7. Staring at ramada also but will take the tram probably Sent from my iPhone !DSPAM:2,54d180d431524401938405!
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
I've learned to assume that there are a few people that will have had whatever UBNT releases (and some things they don't) for months before we pleebs find out. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com To: af af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:59:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X No fair... I missed out on the leakrd specs. So it sounds like it's half duplex only and using one antenna? On Feb 3, 2015 8:54 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: who said they cared what the dish polarity was? it may be a fit thing, they look awful tall... *cough* On 02/03/2015 05:49 PM, TJ Trout wrote: blockquote Why do the radios care what the dish polarity is? On Feb 3, 2015 7:32 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: blockquote cost of a rocket dish. you can modify a regular rocket dish easily by using the feedhorn notch as a template, marking, and drilling. makes it easy to swap back and forth between dual slant to h/v. On 02/03/2015 02:14 PM, Josh Baird wrote: blockquote So, how much are the dishes that they require? --- The airFiber AF-5X radio operates only with an airFiber antenna or a retrofitted RocketDish™ antenna. airFiber antenna models: • AF-5G23-S45 • AF-5G30-S45 • AF-5G34-S45 Retrofit accessory for RocketDish (RD-5G30/RD-5G34): • AF-5G-OMT-S45 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: blockquote Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM Subject: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam From: Ubiquiti Networks [mailto: sales = ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net ] On Behalf Of Ubiquiti Networks Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM To: Adam Brodel Subject: Introducing airFiber X Ubiquiti Networks BROADBAND ENTERPRISE PRODUCTS SUPPORT BUY The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg Starting at $399 MSRP World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.pnghttps://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.pnghttps://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.pnghttps://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png Unsubscribe | Update Preferences | View in browser Follow: Facebook | Twitter | YouTube http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/open.php?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
All over again. And again. And again. And again
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/3/2015 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
deja vu
-Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday,
February 03, 2015 11:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
Everyone.Net
We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up
about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard.
Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on
28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business.
Travis
On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Email is hard
It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now.
It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams,
phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much
spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now,
not enough spam, etc.
~Seth
[AFMUG] Ramada wifi
Ramada wifi is a joke, can someone turn up my queue ? Haha
Re: [AFMUG] RF Porn to view at dinner in SLC
I gotta take that tour tomorrow. Maybe I’ll show pictures on Thursday (scary to think I’ll be at two trade shows in one week). Anyone at Animal Farm – give my crew hell tomorrow :-) Go visit Atis – our customer support rep from Latvia and Nicole – our Logistics Manager for NA. Sergiu should also be hanging out. Paul and I will be there Thursday. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 6:44 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] RF Porn to view at dinner in SLC DAS tour of ATT Dallas Cowboys center. Full power just about everywhere. 1400 DAS antennas. 3 DAS MDFs. 62 IDFs Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] RF Porn to view at dinner in SLC
Impressive set up Jaime Solorza On Feb 3, 2015 8:56 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: I gotta take that tour tomorrow. Maybe I’ll show pictures on Thursday (scary to think I’ll be at two trade shows in one week). Anyone at Animal Farm – give my crew hell tomorrow :-) Go visit Atis – our customer support rep from Latvia and Nicole – our Logistics Manager for NA. Sergiu should also be hanging out. Paul and I will be there Thursday. *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Tuesday, February 3, 2015 6:44 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] RF Porn to view at dinner in SLC DAS tour of ATT Dallas Cowboys center. Full power just about everywhere. 1400 DAS antennas. 3 DAS MDFs. 62 IDFs Jaime Solorza
[AFMUG] OT - manhole explosions
So is this for real? Hundreds of manhole explosions in New York City due to road salt getting into transformers? My problems suddenly look smaller. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/fdny-park-slope-manhole-fire-report-explosion-article-1.2100526 http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2015/02/severe_winter_conditions_set_off_manhole_explosions.php
Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's
I'm two minutes away Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 18:50, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: anyone else at rodizio's, im here in the waiting area Sent from my iPad Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:29 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I am going to have to pass on meatfestregrettably. I will most likely be popping some pills and will see you all in the morning Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rodizio's Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 6:16 PM I'm on my way to rodizio's now. I'll let them know how many of I'm the first there if everyone will let me know a count Il be there by 6:30-6:40 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 18:12, Brandon Yuchasz bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Didn't mean to cause a split. I just picked something I could get to easy. I'm hungry! I told them its a group of 6. So if anyone shows up we will have some room at the table. Brandon Yuchasz 906-392-0025 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: i'm gonna be closer to 7 as well Sent from my iPad Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Louis Arsenault lo...@ntinet.com wrote: I was planning around 7. On Feb 3, 2015 5:42 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ruth's Cris is too rich for my credit card limit. I'll be at rodizio's at 6:30 or 7. Staring at ramada also but will take the tram probably Sent from my iPhone
Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's
I left, heading for ruths Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I'm two minutes away Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 18:50, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: anyone else at rodizio's, im here in the waiting area Sent from my iPad Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:29 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I am going to have to pass on meatfestregrettably. I will most likely be popping some pills and will see you all in the morning Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rodizio's Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 6:16 PM I'm on my way to rodizio's now. I'll let them know how many of I'm the first there if everyone will let me know a count Il be there by 6:30-6:40 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 18:12, Brandon Yuchasz bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Didn't mean to cause a split. I just picked something I could get to easy. I'm hungry! I told them its a group of 6. So if anyone shows up we will have some room at the table. Brandon Yuchasz 906-392-0025 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: i'm gonna be closer to 7 as well Sent from my iPad Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Louis Arsenault lo...@ntinet.com wrote: I was planning around 7. On Feb 3, 2015 5:42 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ruth's Cris is too rich for my credit card limit. I'll be at rodizio's at 6:30 or 7. Staring at ramada also but will take the tram probably Sent from my iPhone
Re: [AFMUG] why ATT has the strongest LTE signal
Most all is poe per say. And it's a lie verizon is way better On Feb 3, 2015 10:15 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: Not true the att LTE by my house it's a good 50ft below the top — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Because they put their LTE radios at the top of their towers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo2fRHYWgLk Actually, I wonder if this is not quite as dumb as it sounds. Maybe they are saying they use remote radio heads rather than ground based radios and coax.
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
He's already been spotted in the lobby of the Ramada! Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Wow you'll be there?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 8:48 PM, Chuck Macenski ch...@macenski.com wrote: Hi, Catch-up with me tomorrow at Animal Farm and I will tell you all about it :) Chuck On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: No fair... I missed out on the leakrd specs. So it sounds like it's half duplex only and using one antenna? On Feb 3, 2015 8:54 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: who said they cared what the dish polarity was? it may be a fit thing, they look awful tall... *cough* On 02/03/2015 05:49 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Why do the radios care what the dish polarity is? On Feb 3, 2015 7:32 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: cost of a rocket dish. you can modify a regular rocket dish easily by using the feedhorn notch as a template, marking, and drilling. makes it easy to swap back and forth between dual slant to h/v. On 02/03/2015 02:14 PM, Josh Baird wrote: So, how much are the dishes that they require? --- The airFiber AF-5X radio operates only with an airFiber antenna or a retrofitted RocketDish™ antenna. airFiber antenna models: • AF-5G23-S45 • AF-5G30-S45 • AF-5G34-S45 Retrofit accessory for RocketDish (RD-5G30/RD-5G34): • AF-5G-OMT-S45 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM Subject: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam From: Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales=ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] On Behalf Of Ubiquiti Networks Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM To: Adam Brodel Subject: Introducing airFiber X mime-attachment.jpg BROADBAND ENTERPRISE PRODUCTS SUPPORT BUY The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry mime-attachment.jpg Starting at mime-attachment.png World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: mime-attachment.pngmime-attachment.pngmime-attachment.pngmime-attachment.png Unsubscribe |Update Preferences |View in browser Follow: Facebook |Twitter |YouTube mime-attachment.gif !DSPAM:2,54d1ae8a80541542111986!
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
Wow you'll be there?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 8:48 PM, Chuck Macenski ch...@macenski.com wrote: Hi, Catch-up with me tomorrow at Animal Farm and I will tell you all about it :) Chuck On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: No fair... I missed out on the leakrd specs. So it sounds like it's half duplex only and using one antenna? On Feb 3, 2015 8:54 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: who said they cared what the dish polarity was? it may be a fit thing, they look awful tall... *cough* On 02/03/2015 05:49 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Why do the radios care what the dish polarity is? On Feb 3, 2015 7:32 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: cost of a rocket dish. you can modify a regular rocket dish easily by using the feedhorn notch as a template, marking, and drilling. makes it easy to swap back and forth between dual slant to h/v. On 02/03/2015 02:14 PM, Josh Baird wrote: So, how much are the dishes that they require? --- The airFiber AF-5X radio operates only with an airFiber antenna or a retrofitted RocketDish™ antenna. airFiber antenna models: • AF-5G23-S45 • AF-5G30-S45 • AF-5G34-S45 Retrofit accessory for RocketDish (RD-5G30/RD-5G34): • AF-5G-OMT-S45 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:* Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales= ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X [image: Ubiquiti Networks] http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg] Starting at [image: $399 MSRP] World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology -- Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.png] http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.png] http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBL[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.png] http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png] http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Follow: Facebook http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=5b8ef22f32e=746526be63 | Twitter
Re: [AFMUG] Cable reel stand for tower work
I have been handling cable for 30 years, and find that the carriers I get from this company are the best. http://www.musicsupply.com/shop.php?cat=13 http://www.musicsupply.com/shop.php?cat=14 I am actually surprised that they have not broken into distribution, and seem to focus on just one industry, but these are great sturdy products. Chris Herrington, PMP, RCDD/OSPWD Specialist FCC Lic. # PG-11-19440 Cell 714-309-8714 ch...@fsc.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 5:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable reel stand for tower work We had these made before I was here On Jan 23, 2015 4:13 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: Any suggestions for a cable reel stand for spooling cable/coax out on a tower run? Our improvised methods need updating, and my google-fu is weak and I'm only finding either junk or stuff that's way too expensive. Think a pair of jack stands with a rod between them but nicer and with less falling over.
Re: [AFMUG] Ramada wifi
Where's everyone at ? Showed up too late for Ruth chris but I'm definately going tomorrow! On Feb 3, 2015 9:46 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: Ramada wifi is a joke, can someone turn up my queue ? Haha
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
I am pretty sure it will be on the www.ubnt.com site fairly quickly thereafter. If not, then yes. Chuck On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote: For all the people not going to AFMUG this year (including me), Chuck can you post details on the list once it's showtime? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Chuck Macenski ch...@macenski.com wrote: Hi, Catch-up with me tomorrow at Animal Farm and I will tell you all about it :) Chuck On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: No fair... I missed out on the leakrd specs. So it sounds like it's half duplex only and using one antenna? On Feb 3, 2015 8:54 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: who said they cared what the dish polarity was? it may be a fit thing, they look awful tall... *cough* On 02/03/2015 05:49 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Why do the radios care what the dish polarity is? On Feb 3, 2015 7:32 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: cost of a rocket dish. you can modify a regular rocket dish easily by using the feedhorn notch as a template, marking, and drilling. makes it easy to swap back and forth between dual slant to h/v. On 02/03/2015 02:14 PM, Josh Baird wrote: So, how much are the dishes that they require? --- The airFiber AF-5X radio operates only with an airFiber antenna or a retrofitted RocketDish™ antenna. airFiber antenna models: • AF-5G23-S45 • AF-5G30-S45 • AF-5G34-S45 Retrofit accessory for RocketDish (RD-5G30/RD-5G34): • AF-5G-OMT-S45 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:* Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales= ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X [image: Ubiquiti Networks] http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg] Starting at [image: $399 MSRP] World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology -- Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.png] http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.png] http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBL[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.png] http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png] http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Follow: Facebook
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
cost of a rocket dish. you can modify a regular rocket dish easily by using the feedhorn notch as a template, marking, and drilling. makes it easy to swap back and forth between dual slant to h/v. On 02/03/2015 02:14 PM, Josh Baird wrote: So, how much are the dishes that they require? --- The airFiber AF-5X radio operates only with an airFiber antenna or a retrofitted RocketDish™ antenna. airFiber antenna models: • AF-5G23-S45 • AF-5G30-S45 • AF-5G34-S45 Retrofit accessory for RocketDish (RD-5G30/RD-5G34): • AF-5G-OMT-S45 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net mailto:j...@tapodi.net wrote: Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com mailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:*Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales mailto:sales=ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net mailto:ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X Ubiquiti Networks http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg Starting at $399 MSRP World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.png http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20Xhttps://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.png http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBLhttps://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.png http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20Xhttps://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Follow: Facebook http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=5b8ef22f32e=746526be63 | Twitter http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=23d150712de=746526be63 | YouTube
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
Why do the radios care what the dish polarity is? On Feb 3, 2015 7:32 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: cost of a rocket dish. you can modify a regular rocket dish easily by using the feedhorn notch as a template, marking, and drilling. makes it easy to swap back and forth between dual slant to h/v. On 02/03/2015 02:14 PM, Josh Baird wrote: So, how much are the dishes that they require? --- The airFiber AF-5X radio operates only with an airFiber antenna or a retrofitted RocketDish™ antenna. airFiber antenna models: • AF-5G23-S45 • AF-5G30-S45 • AF-5G34-S45 Retrofit accessory for RocketDish (RD-5G30/RD-5G34): • AF-5G-OMT-S45 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:* Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales=ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X [image: Ubiquiti Networks] http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg] Starting at [image: $399 MSRP] World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology -- Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.png] http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.png] http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBL[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.png] http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png] http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Follow: Facebook http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=5b8ef22f32e=746526be63 | Twitter http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=23d150712de=746526be63 | YouTube http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1d2d4b0307e=746526be63 http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4458951288e=746526be63 [image: http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/open.php?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63]
Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's
We will have other nights tj... Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rodizio's Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 7:18 PM Real men eat streak! wish I wasn't in the air stilL! On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I left, heading for ruths Sent from my iPhone Kurt FankhauserWavelinc CommunicationsP.O. Box 126Bucyrus, OH 44820http://www.wavelinc.comtel. 419-562-6405fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I'm two minutes away Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 18:50, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: anyone else at rodizio's, im here in the waiting area Sent from my iPad Kurt FankhauserWavelinc CommunicationsP.O. Box 126Bucyrus, OH 44820http://www.wavelinc.comtel. 419-562-6405fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:29 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I am going to have to pass on meatfestregrettably. I will most likely be popping some pills and will see you all in the morning Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rodizio's Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 6:16 PM I'm on my way to rodizio's now. I'll let them know how many of I'm the first there if everyone will let me know a count Il be there by 6:30-6:40 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 18:12, Brandon Yuchasz bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Didn't mean to cause a split. I just picked something I could get to easy. I'm hungry! I told them its a group of 6. So if anyone shows up we will have some room at the table. Brandon Yuchasz906-392-0025 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: i'm gonna be closer to 7 as well Sent from my iPad Kurt FankhauserWavelinc CommunicationsP.O. Box 126Bucyrus, OH 44820http://www..wavelinc.comtel. 419-562-6405fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Louis Arsenault lo...@ntinet.com wrote: I was planning around 7. On Feb 3, 2015 5:42 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote:Ruth's Cris is too rich for my credit card limit. I'll be at rodizio's at 6:30 or 7. Staring at ramada also but will take the tram probably Sent from my iPhone
Re: [AFMUG] Dishes for target practice
owner wasn't aware it was hit - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dishes for target practice Maybe it hit the original radio and the owner already replaced it? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:25 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: As far as we can tell they missed the radio. Larry Smith wrote: LOL, I was referring to what looks like a Canopy SM attached to the dish in question. You can see the bottom of it under the dish edge, and the cat5 cable. Looking up, you can see the edge of it through one of the bullet holes, which leads one to believe the bullet hole just below and to the right of that one must have gone through the SM...
Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page
This article said that it will be regulating broadband internet providers more heavily. When the FCC changes the definition of broadband to 25Mb and higher will that mean that most WISPs will be exempt? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/02/technology/net-neutrality-fcc/index.html Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net image001.png What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.) A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s damaged. You are still powering the radio over copper. Until you figure out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges. It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how many people do? And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the radio. Again, can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how many people do that? Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path, it’s the power path that has DC continuity. The Ethernet transformers should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation. So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path. Which still exists if you have DC power and data over fiber. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 10:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues. *EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:54:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the airFiber. One cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber on any of their products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP on. There is also no reason they cannot put them both on at least the airFiber. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port... On Monday, February 2, 2015, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: blockquote I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold work, etc… Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of timothy steele Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.) A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s damaged. You are still powering the radio over copper. Until you figure out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges. It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how many people do? And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the radio. Again, can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how many people do that? Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path, it’s the power path that has DC continuity. The Ethernet transformers should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation. So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path. Which still exists if you have DC power and data over fiber. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 10:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues. *EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:54:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the airFiber. One cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber on any of their products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP on. There is also no reason they cannot put them both on at least the airFiber. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port... On Monday, February 2, 2015, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold work, etc… Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the UBNT Team https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT Thanks!
Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page
thats the way i am interpretting it, does that mean we dont need to file form 477 anymore too? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: This article said that it will be regulating broadband internet providers more heavily. When the FCC changes the definition of broadband to 25Mb and higher will that mean that most WISPs will be exempt? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/02/technology/net-neutrality-fcc/index.html Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net image001.png What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page
I assume you’re joking. But I’ll bet 24.9M / 2.9M with no USF taxes would be an attractive offer to customers! From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page thats the way i am interpretting it, does that mean we dont need to file form 477 anymore too? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: This article said that it will be regulating broadband internet providers more heavily. When the FCC changes the definition of broadband to 25Mb and higher will that mean that most WISPs will be exempt? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/02/technology/net-neutrality-fcc/index.html Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net image001.png What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.) A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s damaged. You are still powering the radio over copper. Until you figure out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges. It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how many people do? And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the radio. Again, can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how many people do that? Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path, it’s the power path that has DC continuity. The Ethernet transformers should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation. So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path. Which still exists if you have DC power and data over fiber. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 10:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues. *EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 9:54:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiberport? I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the airFiber. One cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber on any of their products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP on. There is also no reason they cannot put them both on at least the airFiber. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port... On Monday, February 2, 2015, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold work, etc…
[AFMUG] SAF freemile
Anyone have an archive of SAF Freemile 5 ghz product??? Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 Web: www.silowireless.comhttp://www.silowireless.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowireless Twitter: @silowireless
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.) A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s damaged. You are still powering the radio over copper. Until you figure out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges. It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how many people do? And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the radio. Again, can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how many people do that? Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path, it’s the power path that has DC continuity. The Ethernet transformers should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation. So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path. Which still exists if you have DC power and data over fiber. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 10:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues. *EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 9:54:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiberport? I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the airFiber. One cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber on any of their products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP on. There is also no reason they cannot put them both on at least the airFiber. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port... On
Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page
If we get forced into this public utility BS i see raising prices to the customer as essential. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I assume you’re joking. But I’ll bet 24.9M / 2.9M with no USF taxes would be an attractive offer to customers! From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page thats the way i am interpretting it, does that mean we dont need to file form 477 anymore too? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: This article said that it will be regulating broadband internet providers more heavily. When the FCC changes the definition of broadband to 25Mb and higher will that mean that most WISPs will be exempt? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/02/technology/net-neutrality-fcc/index.html Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net image001.png What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
that's like 5 times dudeyou're just bragging lol We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] rodizio
I would like to go out for steaks. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Brandon Yuchasz bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: So what was decided for dinner tonight? Just got into the hotel and its our first year for AF. Brandon Yuchasz Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Currently over tampa to dfw Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: li...@wavelinc.com li...@wavelinc.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 9:59 AM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio Are you gonna be here Gino? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:32 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Me too Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I'm all in for steaks on tuesday night! Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Jan 31, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: It's a new year! Let's do AF steak night at Ruth Chris'!! On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 6:56 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Sounds logical :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] rodizio Date: Sat, Jan 31, 2015 7:44 PM Most of us will be there Tuesday night, correct? Is that a good night for Rodizio (or whatever the common choice is) seeing Wednesday night is the Cambium sponsored dinner and quite a few people are headed back home Thursday night? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 7:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio Love squeaky cheese curds. From:Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:13 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio In Baltimore, you’d have to order gravy fries (remember the movie Diner?) And they have some disgusting version in Quebec that involves “squeaky cheese curds”. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:57 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio There's a newish burger joint in Springfield called Freddy's with some form of this fry sauce you speak of. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: It has a dash of mustard and other spices too. Makes it extra special and addictive. From:Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:50 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio The experience also includes Red Iguana, and Arctic Circle for Fry Sauce, right? I’m still amazed that mixing mayonnaise and ketchup counts as an invention. Thousand Island dressing without the pickles, right? From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:51 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio it's part of the AF experience. It's more like a family reunion nowyou just can't change the experience. i mean, geez, changing the hotel this year is going to be depressing enough. lol. - Original Message - From:Chuck McCown To:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio They walk around with swords with all kinds of different meat skewered on them. You have a little colored thing on your table with red and green. If you are showing green they will stop by. All kinds of weird exotic meat along with normal types of meats come around. If you like meat, it is a good place to go. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:11 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio As someone who's never been to AF, I've heard you guys talk about Rodizio before- what is it? There's a Golden Corral down the road from my office. I don't feel like I get my money's worth on lunch there anymore. It all sorta tastes the same ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31,
Re: [AFMUG] rodizio
I'm in if it isn't too late. I haven't eat since 6:30 am cst. I'm trying to hold out for rodizio's Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 15:05, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I would like to go out for steaks. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Brandon Yuchasz bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: So what was decided for dinner tonight? Just got into the hotel and its our first year for AF. Brandon Yuchasz Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Currently over tampa to dfw Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: li...@wavelinc.com li...@wavelinc.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 9:59 AM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio Are you gonna be here Gino? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:32 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Me too Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I'm all in for steaks on tuesday night! Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Jan 31, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: It's a new year! Let's do AF steak night at Ruth Chris'!! On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 6:56 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Sounds logical :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] rodizio Date: Sat, Jan 31, 2015 7:44 PM Most of us will be there Tuesday night, correct? Is that a good night for Rodizio (or whatever the common choice is) seeing Wednesday night is the Cambium sponsored dinner and quite a few people are headed back home Thursday night? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 7:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio Love squeaky cheese curds. From:Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:13 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio In Baltimore, you’d have to order gravy fries (remember the movie Diner?) And they have some disgusting version in Quebec that involves “squeaky cheese curds”. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:57 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio There's a newish burger joint in Springfield called Freddy's with some form of this fry sauce you speak of. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: It has a dash of mustard and other spices too. Makes it extra special and addictive. From:Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:50 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio The experience also includes Red Iguana, and Arctic Circle for Fry Sauce, right? I’m still amazed that mixing mayonnaise and ketchup counts as an invention. Thousand Island dressing without the pickles, right? From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:51 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio it's part of the AF experience. It's more like a family reunion nowyou just can't change the experience. i mean, geez, changing the hotel this year is going to be depressing enough. lol. - Original Message - From:Chuck McCown To:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio They walk around with swords with all kinds of different meat skewered on them. You have a little colored thing on your table with red and green. If you are showing green they will stop by. All kinds of weird exotic meat along with normal types of meats come around. If you like meat, it is a good place to go. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:11 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio As someone who's never been to AF, I've heard you guys talk about Rodizio before- what is it? There's a Golden Corral down the road from my office. I don't feel like I get my money's worth on lunch there anymore. It all sorta tastes the same
Re: [AFMUG] rodizio
Which Rodizio they going too? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I'm in if it isn't too late. I haven't eat since 6:30 am cst. I'm trying to hold out for rodizio's Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 15:05, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I would like to go out for steaks. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Brandon Yuchasz bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: So what was decided for dinner tonight? Just got into the hotel and its our first year for AF. Brandon Yuchasz Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Currently over tampa to dfw Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: li...@wavelinc.com li...@wavelinc.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 9:59 AM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio Are you gonna be here Gino? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:32 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Me too Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I'm all in for steaks on tuesday night! Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Jan 31, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: It's a new year! Let's do AF steak night at Ruth Chris'!! On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 6:56 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Sounds logical :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] rodizio Date: Sat, Jan 31, 2015 7:44 PM Most of us will be there Tuesday night, correct? Is that a good night for Rodizio (or whatever the common choice is) seeing Wednesday night is the Cambium sponsored dinner and quite a few people are headed back home Thursday night? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 7:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio Love squeaky cheese curds. From:Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:13 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio In Baltimore, you’d have to order gravy fries (remember the movie Diner?) And they have some disgusting version in Quebec that involves “squeaky cheese curds”. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:57 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio There's a newish burger joint in Springfield called Freddy's with some form of this fry sauce you speak of. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: It has a dash of mustard and other spices too. Makes it extra special and addictive. From:Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:50 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio The experience also includes Red Iguana, and Arctic Circle for Fry Sauce, right? I’m still amazed that mixing mayonnaise and ketchup counts as an invention. Thousand Island dressing without the pickles, right? From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:51 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio it's part of the AF experience. It's more like a family reunion nowyou just can't change the experience. i mean, geez, changing the hotel this year is going to be depressing enough. lol. - Original Message - From:Chuck McCown To:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio They walk around with swords with all kinds of different meat skewered on them. You have a little colored thing on your table with red and green. If you are showing green they will stop by. All kinds of weird exotic meat along with normal types of meats come around. If you like meat, it is a good place to go. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:11 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio As someone
Re: [AFMUG] rodizio
Which Rodizio they going too? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I'm in if it isn't too late. I haven't eat since 6:30 am cst. I'm trying to hold out for rodizio's Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2015, at 15:05, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I would like to go out for steaks. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Brandon Yuchasz bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: So what was decided for dinner tonight? Just got into the hotel and its our first year for AF. Brandon Yuchasz Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Currently over tampa to dfw Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: li...@wavelinc.com li...@wavelinc.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 9:59 AM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio Are you gonna be here Gino? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:32 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Me too Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I'm all in for steaks on tuesday night! Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Jan 31, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: It's a new year! Let's do AF steak night at Ruth Chris'!! On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 6:56 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Sounds logical :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] rodizio Date: Sat, Jan 31, 2015 7:44 PM Most of us will be there Tuesday night, correct? Is that a good night for Rodizio (or whatever the common choice is) seeing Wednesday night is the Cambium sponsored dinner and quite a few people are headed back home Thursday night? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 7:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio Love squeaky cheese curds. From:Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:13 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio In Baltimore, you’d have to order gravy fries (remember the movie Diner?) And they have some disgusting version in Quebec that involves “squeaky cheese curds”. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:57 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio There's a newish burger joint in Springfield called Freddy's with some form of this fry sauce you speak of. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: It has a dash of mustard and other spices too. Makes it extra special and addictive. From:Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:50 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio The experience also includes Red Iguana, and Arctic Circle for Fry Sauce, right? I’m still amazed that mixing mayonnaise and ketchup counts as an invention. Thousand Island dressing without the pickles, right? From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:51 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio it's part of the AF experience. It's more like a family reunion nowyou just can't change the experience. i mean, geez, changing the hotel this year is going to be depressing enough. lol. - Original Message - From:Chuck McCown To:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio They walk around with swords with all kinds of different meat skewered on them. You have a little colored thing on your table with red and green. If you are showing green they will stop by. All kinds of weird exotic meat along with normal types of meats come around. If you like meat, it is a good place to go. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:11 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio As someone
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
I am loving that these are still coming in... Go for 6? Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 1:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?
I would use it on both. I could deal with it being on the cheaper models, however. On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mhoward...@gmail.com'); wrote: I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net'); wrote: You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@kwisp.com'); *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. *From:* Mike Hammett javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net'); *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@kwisp.com'); *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.) A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s damaged. You are still powering the radio over copper. Until you figure out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges. It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how many people do? And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the radio. Again, can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how many people do that? Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path, it’s the power path that has DC continuity. The Ethernet transformers should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation. So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path. Which still exists if you have DC power and data over fiber. *From:* Mike Hammett javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net'); *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 10:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues. *EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com
[AFMUG] OT: Wired Articles Today
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Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
There's clearly a market for radios with SFP ports, I really don't understand why they aren't making them. MIkrotik routers only cost $5-$10 extra with an SFP port, so it can't cost that much, and that can easily be passed on to us without anyone complaining... well, assuming they keep making a cheap version without SFP, I imagine there would be riots on the ubiquiti forums if they tried to raise the price of radios by more than $0.12 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Exactly. Run two cables with 24 or more strands up diverse paths. SFP to each device. I'd like to see dual SFPs on every device and SFP+s on devices that could possibly surpass 1G, but one step at a time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:17:18 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? If literally every device on the tower had an SFP I'd be in heaven. I'd run TWO cables for DOZENS of devices. Fiber patch cables everywhere on the tower!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: SFP every single tower and enterprise device. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.) A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s damaged. You are still powering the radio over copper. Until you figure out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges. It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how many people do? And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable to surges finding a
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
Business customers, I could see. Well, on a Zimbra\Exchange type environment. Not standard e-mail. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:31:37 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net I'm amazed how they can charge customers $5 for an account. Even if it did work all the time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: blockquote On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: blockquote Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
You must be mistaken. Their website says proven 99.99% service reliability. You can't put something on the Internet if it isn't true. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
My DC sites are just power to the unit (packetflux usually). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 11:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd be interested to know if these tower-top DC protectors are going just before the radio (mere inches), at the PDU you're using or somewhere else. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:43:54 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Those of you who are running direct DC, are you using tower top surge protectors? Anyone have an example of these you can link me to? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: BTW: My intent with dual SFPs is to allow for router maintenance without losing the link. Dual cable everything, then you can perform maintenance (intentional or not) and you keep passing bits. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:29:51 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? There's clearly a market for radios with SFP ports, I really don't understand why they aren't making them. MIkrotik routers only cost $5-$10 extra with an SFP port, so it can't cost that much, and that can easily be passed on to us without anyone complaining... well, assuming they keep making a cheap version without SFP, I imagine there would be riots on the ubiquiti forums if they tried to raise the price of radios by more than $0.12 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Exactly. Run two cables with 24 or more strands up diverse paths. SFP to each device. I'd like to see dual SFPs on every device and SFP+s on devices that could possibly surpass 1G, but one step at a time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:17:18 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? If literally every device on the tower had an SFP I'd be in heaven. I'd run TWO cables for DOZENS of devices. Fiber patch cables everywhere on the tower!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: SFP every single tower and enterprise device. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb
Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page
I see some serious taxation in the near term Apparently, in the state of the state on wednesday our new governor in illinois is going to discuss some new service taxes, one of which is on hair cuts (im in the hole still 9k out of the 16k it cost to send the old lady to school to be a cosmetologist or whetever theyre called) which I see as a backdoor into getting the service tax in place here in illinois. Going to get expensive to be a WISP in this state very shortly between our inability to manage money and our feds inability to manage money. But hey, at least in the end, high speed porn for all right? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Still the same rate, even after title II* *additional fees apply to pay for your favorite politicians steak Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: If we get forced into this public utility BS i see raising prices to the customer as essential. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I assume you’re joking. But I’ll bet 24.9M / 2.9M with no USF taxes would be an attractive offer to customers! *From:* Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:09 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page thats the way i am interpretting it, does that mean we dont need to file form 477 anymore too? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: This article said that it will be regulating broadband internet providers more heavily. When the FCC changes the definition of broadband to 25Mb and higher will that mean that most WISPs will be exempt? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/02/technology/net-neutrality-fcc/index.html *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* image001.png *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.* -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page
LOL I doubt it will go that way, but yeah it would be interesting if the silver lining was that not selling broadband speed meant no regulation. I assume you’re joking. But I’ll bet 24.9M / 2.9M with no USF taxes would be an attractive offer to customers! *From:* Kurt Fankhauser mailto:li...@wavelinc.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:09 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page thats the way i am interpretting it, does that mean we dont need to file form 477 anymore too? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com mailto:br...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: This article said that it will be regulating broadband internet providers more heavily. When the FCC changes the definition of broadband to 25Mb and higher will that mean that most WISPs will be exempt? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net mailto:t...@franklinisp.net wrote: http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/02/technology/net-neutrality-fcc/index.html *Tyson Burris, President** **Internet Communications Inc.** **739 Commerce Dr.** **Franklin, IN 46131** *** *317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* wlmailhtml:www.surfici.net image001.png *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* ** *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.*
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
Exactly. Run two cables with 24 or more strands up diverse paths. SFP to each device. I'd like to see dual SFPs on every device and SFP+s on devices that could possibly surpass 1G, but one step at a time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:17:18 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? If literally every device on the tower had an SFP I'd be in heaven. I'd run TWO cables for DOZENS of devices. Fiber patch cables everywhere on the tower!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: SFP every single tower and enterprise device. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.) A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s damaged. You are still powering the radio over copper. Until you figure out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges. It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how many people do? And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the radio. Again, can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how many people do that? Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path, it’s the power path that has DC continuity. The Ethernet transformers should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation. So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path. Which still exists if you have DC power and data over fiber. From: Mike
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
BTW: My intent with dual SFPs is to allow for router maintenance without losing the link. Dual cable everything, then you can perform maintenance (intentional or not) and you keep passing bits. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com To: af af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:29:51 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? There's clearly a market for radios with SFP ports, I really don't understand why they aren't making them. MIkrotik routers only cost $5-$10 extra with an SFP port, so it can't cost that much, and that can easily be passed on to us without anyone complaining... well, assuming they keep making a cheap version without SFP, I imagine there would be riots on the ubiquiti forums if they tried to raise the price of radios by more than $0.12 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Exactly. Run two cables with 24 or more strands up diverse paths. SFP to each device. I'd like to see dual SFPs on every device and SFP+s on devices that could possibly surpass 1G, but one step at a time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:17:18 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? If literally every device on the tower had an SFP I'd be in heaven. I'd run TWO cables for DOZENS of devices. Fiber patch cables everywhere on the tower!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote SFP every single tower and enterprise device. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.) A lot of the time when
Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather
Paul, ouch, so far my tampa flight at 5:00 is looking good. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at http://main.acsevents.org/site/TR/RelayForLife/RFLFY12FL?team_id=1030009pg=teamfr_id=37555 -- Monday, February 2, 2015, 7:31:38 PM, you wrote: PM JetBlue delayed coming out of the northeast to Orlando. So my PM ￜOrlando 8pm flight out just became midnightￜ maybeL PM ￜ PM Scottyￜ beam me over ! PM ￜ PM ￜ PM From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]On Behalf Of Josh Luthman PM Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:24 PM PM To: af@afmug.com PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather PM ￜ PM I'll pack my shorts! PM ￜ PM Josh Luthman PM Office: 937-552-2340 PM Direct: 937-552-2343 PM 1100 Wayne St PM Suite 1337 PM Troy, OH 45373 PM ￜ PM On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: PM just got off the plane in Salt Lake City and it's 55ￜ here PM Sent from my iPhone PM ￜ PM Kurt Fankhauser PM Wavelinc Communications PM P.O. Box 126 PM Bucyrus, OH 44820 PM http://www.wavelinc.com PM tel. 419-562-6405 PM fax. 419-617-0110 PM On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Josh Luthman PM j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: PM LOL!!! PM ￜ PM Josh Luthman PM Office: 937-552-2340 PM Direct: 937-552-2343 PM 1100 Wayne St PM Suite 1337 PM Troy, OH 45373 PM ￜ PM On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: PM I'm gonna call Obama tell him to push Tom Wheeler to get my PM dang wifi working better on the plane. And I want it to meet the PM definition of broadband PM Sent from my iPhone PM ￜ PM Kurt Fankhauser PM Wavelinc Communications PM P.O. Box 126 PM Bucyrus, OH 44820 PM http://www.wavelinc.com PM tel. 419-562-6405 PM fax. 419-617-0110 PM On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:14 PM, John Woodfield PM john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: PM Sounds like a good target for neutrality lol PM ￜ PM Use a proxy! PM ￜ PM ￜ PM ￜ PM John Woodfield Delmarva WiFihttp://www.delmarvawifi.com cell(410) 708-1937 PM -Original Message- PM From: Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com PM Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 3:13pm PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather PM I cant watch that video they got youtube blocked on the plane. PM Sent from my iPhone PM Kurt Fankhauser PM Wavelinc Communications PM P.O. Box 126 PM Bucyrus, OH 44820 PM http://www.wavelinc.com PM tel. 419-562-6405 PM fax. 419-617-0110 PM On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Josh Luthman PM j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: PM But your customers aren't going to understand how to PM communicate unless you say over.ￜ Over. PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJCfUm21BsI PM Josh Luthman PM Office: 937-552-2340 PM Direct: 937-552-2343 PM 1100 Wayne St PM Suite 1337 PM Troy, OH 45373 PM ￜ PM On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: PM Lol, at least the phone cant ring, unless you have Voip over WIfI PM Sent from my iPhone PM Kurt Fankhauser PM Wavelinc Communications PM P.O. Box 126 PM Bucyrus, OH 44820 PM http://www.wavelinc.com PM tel. 419-562-6405 PM fax. 419-617-0110 PM On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Josh Luthman PM j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: PM My favorite part about flying is the few hour escape from the connectivity... PM ￜ PM Josh Luthman PM Office: 937-552-2340 PM Direct: 937-552-2343 PM 1100 Wayne St PM Suite 1337 PM Troy, OH 45373 PM On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: PM I am on an American Airlines flight right now from Dallas to PM SLC, wifi is availiable on the plane for $10/hour. Getting about PM 1.5 mbps down and 100 pings with it and they had a diaclaimer on PM sign on page that streaming video was blocked! PM Sent from my iPhone PM Kurt Fankhauser PM Wavelinc Communications PM P.O. Box 126 PM Bucyrus, OH 44820 PM http://www.wavelinc.com PM tel. 419-562-6405 PM fax. 419-617-0110 PM On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: PM When's that Chicago - Detroit high speed line going in?ￜ *ducking* PM - PM Mike Hammett PM Intelligent Computing Solutions PM http://www.ics-il.com PM ￜ PM From:Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net PM To: af@afmug.com PM Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:46:25 PM PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather PM Yeah, if I want to take over 3 hours and schlep my bag a half PM a mile, outside, between train stations. PM Jeff Broadwick PM ConVergence Technologies, Inc. PM 312-205-2519 Office PM 574-220-7826 Cell PM jbroadw...@converge-tech.com PM On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: PM Can't you take South Shore to a bus to Blue Line?ￜ :-p PM - PM Mike Hammett PM
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
SFP every single tower and enterprise device. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.) A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s damaged. You are still powering the radio over copper. Until you figure out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges. It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how many people do? And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the radio. Again, can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how many people do that? Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path, it’s the power path that has DC continuity. The Ethernet transformers should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation. So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path. Which still exists if you have DC power and data over fiber. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 10:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues. *EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:54:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the airFiber. One cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber on any of their products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP on. There is also no reason they cannot put them both on at least the airFiber.
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
If literally every device on the tower had an SFP I'd be in heaven. I'd run TWO cables for DOZENS of devices. Fiber patch cables everywhere on the tower!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: SFP every single tower and enterprise device. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.) A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s damaged. You are still powering the radio over copper. Until you figure out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges. It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how many people do? And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the radio. Again, can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how many people do that? Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path, it’s the power path that has DC continuity. The Ethernet transformers should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation. So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path. Which still exists if you have DC power and data over fiber. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 10:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues. *EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From:
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
I'm amazed how they can charge customers $5 for an account. Even if it did work all the time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
I'd be interested to know if these tower-top DC protectors are going just before the radio (mere inches), at the PDU you're using or somewhere else. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:43:54 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Those of you who are running direct DC, are you using tower top surge protectors? Anyone have an example of these you can link me to? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: BTW: My intent with dual SFPs is to allow for router maintenance without losing the link. Dual cable everything, then you can perform maintenance (intentional or not) and you keep passing bits. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com To: af af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:29:51 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? There's clearly a market for radios with SFP ports, I really don't understand why they aren't making them. MIkrotik routers only cost $5-$10 extra with an SFP port, so it can't cost that much, and that can easily be passed on to us without anyone complaining... well, assuming they keep making a cheap version without SFP, I imagine there would be riots on the ubiquiti forums if they tried to raise the price of radios by more than $0.12 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote Exactly. Run two cables with 24 or more strands up diverse paths. SFP to each device. I'd like to see dual SFPs on every device and SFP+s on devices that could possibly surpass 1G, but one step at a time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:17:18 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? If literally every device on the tower had an SFP I'd be in heaven. I'd run TWO cables for DOZENS of devices. Fiber patch cables everywhere on the tower!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote SFP every single tower and enterprise device. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I
Re: [AFMUG] Pin out on 430 AP to take 24vdc?
I am sure it was supposed to be the striped ones because I have a working cable in my hand I have used for years. Like Sam I only has 29v systems at the time at our sites and it was a pain to insert another source just for a few of these things. On 02/02/2015 04:47 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) wrote: Brown and Blue are reversed 1-Or/Wh 2-Or 3-Grn/Wh 4-Brn 5-Brn/Wh 6-Grn 7-Blu/Wh 8-Blu *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Lambie *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 2:41 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pin out on 430 AP to take 24vdc? You say it should be like this? o O g B br G b B 1 2 3 5 7 6 4 8 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried that and no go. On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:42 PM, David dmilho...@wletc.com mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Swap the stripes at one end ie: blu/wht and brwn/wht SHHH... I need to encrypt this :) On 02/02/2015 02:38 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: I have looked on the list and can't find anything. I did it once and promptly forgot how to do it. -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 tel:575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 tel:575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page
Still the same rate, even after title II* *additional fees apply to pay for your favorite politicians steak Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: If we get forced into this public utility BS i see raising prices to the customer as essential. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I assume you’re joking. But I’ll bet 24.9M / 2.9M with no USF taxes would be an attractive offer to customers! *From:* Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:09 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page thats the way i am interpretting it, does that mean we dont need to file form 477 anymore too? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: This article said that it will be regulating broadband internet providers more heavily. When the FCC changes the definition of broadband to 25Mb and higher will that mean that most WISPs will be exempt? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/02/technology/net-neutrality-fcc/index.html *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* image001.png *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.*
Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit?
Have not heard a word. I guess if you really want to screw with someone, make a transmitter that will light up on radar frequencies, hide it in a sync pipe, set it to randomly go off and install it on the competitors tower... Sterling, are you hosting folks today? -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 10:33 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? S, with the ATT announcement, did the FCC visiting Utah ever report anything this time? I only heard they were investigating weather radar again. If it's like last time they were here, they will stew on the data for almost a year, then claim several companies as non-compliant at the same time because they couldn't figure it out. Geez I'm glad haven't used 5GHz, or licensed links for almost two years now! Oh, and does this content tag out our list with the boys up the street?
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wired Articles Today
That along with the latest more powerful Pi and PRTG free version now allowing up to 30 sensors, might make it attractive to put PRTG remote probes all over the network, with just one main probe running on an actual computer. So instead of just graphing ping times from my NOC to everywhere, I could also have ping times from tower A to tower B. From: Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Wired Articles Today Free Windows on Raspberry Pi - http://www.wired.com/2015/02/internet-anything-microsoft-brings-free-windows-raspberry-pi/ Eero Wireless Router: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/smart-wireless-router-designers-behind-nest/ *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn ***
Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit?
Yes, today, and it's just me. Did everyone get the location date/time info? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 8:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Have not heard a word. I guess if you really want to screw with someone, make a transmitter that will light up on radar frequencies, hide it in a sync pipe, set it to randomly go off and install it on the competitors tower... Sterling, are you hosting folks today? -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 10:33 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? S, with the ATT announcement, did the FCC visiting Utah ever report anything this time? I only heard they were investigating weather radar again. If it's like last time they were here, they will stew on the data for almost a year, then claim several companies as non-compliant at the same time because they couldn't figure it out. Geez I'm glad haven't used 5GHz, or licensed links for almost two years now! Oh, and does this content tag out our list with the boys up the street?
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
Those of you who are running direct DC, are you using tower top surge protectors? Anyone have an example of these you can link me to? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: BTW: My intent with dual SFPs is to allow for router maintenance without losing the link. Dual cable everything, then you can perform maintenance (intentional or not) and you keep passing bits. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:29:51 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? There's clearly a market for radios with SFP ports, I really don't understand why they aren't making them. MIkrotik routers only cost $5-$10 extra with an SFP port, so it can't cost that much, and that can easily be passed on to us without anyone complaining... well, assuming they keep making a cheap version without SFP, I imagine there would be riots on the ubiquiti forums if they tried to raise the price of radios by more than $0.12 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Exactly. Run two cables with 24 or more strands up diverse paths. SFP to each device. I'd like to see dual SFPs on every device and SFP+s on devices that could possibly surpass 1G, but one step at a time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:17:18 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? If literally every device on the tower had an SFP I'd be in heaven. I'd run TWO cables for DOZENS of devices. Fiber patch cables everywhere on the tower!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: SFP every single tower and enterprise device. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken
Re: [AFMUG] Dual DC power connector on CCR 1036-126-4s?
Ive been bitchin about this for years with mikrotik. We need to have a dc terminal for these things and not some pin jack or a hax for the terminals on the board itself. We use 19 rack standards at all of our sites so it very beneficial for a DC terminal(s) for connecting straight to DC source would be great. I have several I have done hax on to make them work with our installations. On 02/02/2015 04:31 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote: Thats what I mean, internally, looking to remove AC to DC converter and run straight DC, would niceto find a terminal that could mount in the existing hole. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote: Not all of them. We've got one with only a single AC input. It has a way to connect 24v DC internally fairly easily, but requires taking it apart. - Original Message - *From:* Erich Kaiser mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 4:04 PM *Subject:* [AFMUG] Dual DC power connector on CCR 1036-126-4s? Do all of the CCRs have dual power connectors on their boards? Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 tel:630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 tel:630-777-9291
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
Our direct DC is fuse protected at the base, but no surge or protection at the top. I figured the 2amp fuse would be sufficient. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: My DC sites are just power to the unit (packetflux usually). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 11:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd be interested to know if these tower-top DC protectors are going just before the radio (mere inches), at the PDU you're using or somewhere else. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:43:54 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Those of you who are running direct DC, are you using tower top surge protectors? Anyone have an example of these you can link me to? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: BTW: My intent with dual SFPs is to allow for router maintenance without losing the link. Dual cable everything, then you can perform maintenance (intentional or not) and you keep passing bits. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:29:51 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? There's clearly a market for radios with SFP ports, I really don't understand why they aren't making them. MIkrotik routers only cost $5-$10 extra with an SFP port, so it can't cost that much, and that can easily be passed on to us without anyone complaining... well, assuming they keep making a cheap version without SFP, I imagine there would be riots on the ubiquiti forums if they tried to raise the price of radios by more than $0.12 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Exactly. Run two cables with 24 or more strands up diverse paths. SFP to each device. I'd like to see dual SFPs on every device and SFP+s on devices that could possibly surpass 1G, but one step at a time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:17:18 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? If literally every device on the tower had an SFP I'd be in heaven. I'd run TWO cables for DOZENS of devices. Fiber patch cables everywhere on the tower!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: SFP every single tower and enterprise device. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
I'm not worried about the gig versus 100 meg - I want to remove ethernet problems! That third option skews the results. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:17 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: Answer Choices– Responses– – YES This Will End Cable Errors on Towers 68.83% 53 – Yes But Only in the AirFiber Family 18.18% 14 – No I See No Point in more then 100Mbps on A Radio or Removing Cable Errors 5.19% 4 – Responses https://www.surveymonkey.com/analyze/D2VeJUcXmFdcCowZwRtn2N3Da91JBfLGGsAylwcdSa4_3D# Other (please specify) 7.79% 6 Total77 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Our direct DC is fuse protected at the base, but no surge or protection at the top. I figured the 2amp fuse would be sufficient. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: My DC sites are just power to the unit (packetflux usually). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 11:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd be interested to know if these tower-top DC protectors are going just before the radio (mere inches), at the PDU you're using or somewhere else. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:43:54 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Those of you who are running direct DC, are you using tower top surge protectors? Anyone have an example of these you can link me to? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: BTW: My intent with dual SFPs is to allow for router maintenance without losing the link. Dual cable everything, then you can perform maintenance (intentional or not) and you keep passing bits. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:29:51 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? There's clearly a market for radios with SFP ports, I really don't understand why they aren't making them. MIkrotik routers only cost $5-$10 extra with an SFP port, so it can't cost that much, and that can easily be passed on to us without anyone complaining... well, assuming they keep making a cheap version without SFP, I imagine there would be riots on the ubiquiti forums if they tried to raise the price of radios by more than $0.12 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Exactly. Run two cables with 24 or more strands up diverse paths. SFP to each device. I'd like to see dual SFPs on every device and SFP+s on devices that could possibly surpass 1G, but one step at a time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:17:18 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? If literally every device on the tower had an SFP I'd be in heaven. I'd run TWO cables for DOZENS of devices. Fiber patch cables everywhere on the tower!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: SFP every single tower and enterprise device. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself.
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?
WaveSpan used fiber from IDU to ODU over 10 yrs ago and FD FHSS to boot. Jaime Solorza On Feb 2, 2015 6:16 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: in my 5+ years trying to get UBNT to do somthing I Found they ignor you until you have a survay with 200+ people saying they want it.. You Can track 365 Radios, VLAN Support, MIB Support, Many others back to Survays Started on the forum On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I've told them after each product release, multiple times on the forum and mailing lists. I highlighted the last blazing example. We'll see what happens... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 6:56:33 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the UBNT Team https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT Thanks!
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
No, it's not technically hard, but it's most certainly a pain in the ass. Josh On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] rodizio
Me too Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.commailto:li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I'm all in for steaks on tuesday night! Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Jan 31, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.commailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: It's a new year! Let's do AF steak night at Ruth Chris'!! On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 6:56 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.netmailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Sounds logical :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] rodizio Date: Sat, Jan 31, 2015 7:44 PM Most of us will be there Tuesday night, correct? Is that a good night for Rodizio (or whatever the common choice is) seeing Wednesday night is the Cambium sponsored dinner and quite a few people are headed back home Thursday night? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 7:13 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio Love squeaky cheese curds. From: Ken Hohhofmailto:af...@kwisp.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:13 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio In Baltimore, you’d have to order gravy fries (remember the movie Diner?) And they have some disgusting version in Quebec that involves “squeaky cheese curds”. From: Tyler Treatmailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio There's a newish burger joint in Springfield called Freddy's with some form of this fry sauce you speak of. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: It has a dash of mustard and other spices too. Makes it extra special and addictive. From: Ken Hohhofmailto:af...@kwisp.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:50 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio The experience also includes Red Iguana, and Arctic Circle for Fry Sauce, right? I’m still amazed that mixing mayonnaise and ketchup counts as an invention. Thousand Island dressing without the pickles, right? From: CBB - Jay Fullermailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:51 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio it's part of the AF experience. It's more like a family reunion nowyou just can't change the experience. i mean, geez, changing the hotel this year is going to be depressing enough. lol. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCownmailto:ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio They walk around with swords with all kinds of different meat skewered on them. You have a little colored thing on your table with red and green. If you are showing green they will stop by. All kinds of weird exotic meat along with normal types of meats come around. If you like meat, it is a good place to go. From: Tyler Treatmailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:11 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio As someone who's never been to AF, I've heard you guys talk about Rodizio before- what is it? There's a Golden Corral down the road from my office. I don't feel like I get my money's worth on lunch there anymore. It all sorta tastes the same ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Mmm Golden Corral will make you fat and sleepy :) On January 31, 2015 9:57:17 AM AKST, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Rodizio is not the best place to eat meat… lots of other places with better quality / offerings… But if you want to pass out on a full stomach go either Rodizio or Golden Corral Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.comhttp://www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: CBB Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.netmailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Date: Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 2:37 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG]
Re: [AFMUG] Dishes for target practice
Maybe it hit the original radio and the owner already replaced it? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:25 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: As far as we can tell they missed the radio. Larry Smith wrote: LOL, I was referring to what looks like a Canopy SM attached to the dish in question. You can see the bottom of it under the dish edge, and the cat5 cable. Looking up, you can see the edge of it through one of the bullet holes, which leads one to believe the bullet hole just below and to the right of that one must have gone through the SM...
Re: [AFMUG] rodizio
I'm all in for steaks on tuesday night! Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Jan 31, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: It's a new year! Let's do AF steak night at Ruth Chris'!! On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 6:56 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Sounds logical :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] rodizio Date: Sat, Jan 31, 2015 7:44 PM Most of us will be there Tuesday night, correct? Is that a good night for Rodizio (or whatever the common choice is) seeing Wednesday night is the Cambium sponsored dinner and quite a few people are headed back home Thursday night? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 7:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio Love squeaky cheese curds. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio In Baltimore, you’d have to order gravy fries (remember the movie Diner?) And they have some disgusting version in Quebec that involves “squeaky cheese curds”. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio There's a newish burger joint in Springfield called Freddy's with some form of this fry sauce you speak of. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: It has a dash of mustard and other spices too. Makes it extra special and addictive. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio The experience also includes Red Iguana, and Arctic Circle for Fry Sauce, right? I’m still amazed that mixing mayonnaise and ketchup counts as an invention. Thousand Island dressing without the pickles, right? From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio it's part of the AF experience. It's more like a family reunion nowyou just can't change the experience. i mean, geez, changing the hotel this year is going to be depressing enough. lol. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio They walk around with swords with all kinds of different meat skewered on them. You have a little colored thing on your table with red and green. If you are showing green they will stop by. All kinds of weird exotic meat along with normal types of meats come around. If you like meat, it is a good place to go. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio As someone who's never been to AF, I've heard you guys talk about Rodizio before- what is it? There's a Golden Corral down the road from my office. I don't feel like I get my money's worth on lunch there anymore. It all sorta tastes the same ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Mmm Golden Corral will make you fat and sleepy :) On January 31, 2015 9:57:17 AM AKST, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Rodizio is not the best place to eat meat… lots of other places with better quality / offerings… But if you want to pass out on a full stomach go either Rodizio or Golden Corral Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: CBB Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 2:37 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] rodizio i glanced but didn't see any discussion on that yetany thoughts? anyone know what i'm talking about ? :) -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
[AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page
http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/02/technology/net-neutrality-fcc/index.html Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.) A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s damaged. You are still powering the radio over copper. Until you figure out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges. It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how many people do? And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the radio. Again, can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how many people do that? Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path, it’s the power path that has DC continuity. The Ethernet transformers should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation. So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path. Which still exists if you have DC power and data over fiber. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 10:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues. *EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:54:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the airFiber. One cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber on any of their products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP on. There is also no reason they cannot put them both on at least the airFiber. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port... On Monday, February 2, 2015, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: blockquote I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold work, etc… Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of timothy steele Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the UBNT Team https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT Thanks! /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] rodizio
Are you gonna be here Gino? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:32 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Me too Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I'm all in for steaks on tuesday night! Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Jan 31, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: It's a new year! Let's do AF steak night at Ruth Chris'!! On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 6:56 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Sounds logical :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] rodizio Date: Sat, Jan 31, 2015 7:44 PM Most of us will be there Tuesday night, correct? Is that a good night for Rodizio (or whatever the common choice is) seeing Wednesday night is the Cambium sponsored dinner and quite a few people are headed back home Thursday night? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 7:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio Love squeaky cheese curds. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio In Baltimore, you’d have to order gravy fries (remember the movie Diner?) And they have some disgusting version in Quebec that involves “squeaky cheese curds”. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio There's a newish burger joint in Springfield called Freddy's with some form of this fry sauce you speak of. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: It has a dash of mustard and other spices too. Makes it extra special and addictive. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio The experience also includes Red Iguana, and Arctic Circle for Fry Sauce, right? I’m still amazed that mixing mayonnaise and ketchup counts as an invention. Thousand Island dressing without the pickles, right? From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio it's part of the AF experience. It's more like a family reunion nowyou just can't change the experience. i mean, geez, changing the hotel this year is going to be depressing enough. lol. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio They walk around with swords with all kinds of different meat skewered on them. You have a little colored thing on your table with red and green. If you are showing green they will stop by. All kinds of weird exotic meat along with normal types of meats come around. If you like meat, it is a good place to go. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio As someone who's never been to AF, I've heard you guys talk about Rodizio before- what is it? There's a Golden Corral down the road from my office. I don't feel like I get my money's worth on lunch there anymore. It all sorta tastes the same ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Mmm Golden Corral will make you fat and sleepy :) On January 31, 2015 9:57:17 AM AKST, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Rodizio is not the best place to eat meat… lots of other places with better quality / offerings… But if you want to pass out on a full stomach go either Rodizio or Golden Corral Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: CBB Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 2:37 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] rodizio i glanced but didn't see any discussion on that yetany thoughts? anyone
Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit?
Please refresh us. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Yes, today, and it's just me. Did everyone get the location date/time info? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 8:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Have not heard a word. I guess if you really want to screw with someone, make a transmitter that will light up on radar frequencies, hide it in a sync pipe, set it to randomly go off and install it on the competitors tower... Sterling, are you hosting folks today? -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 10:33 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? S, with the ATT announcement, did the FCC visiting Utah ever report anything this time? I only heard they were investigating weather radar again. If it's like last time they were here, they will stew on the data for almost a year, then claim several companies as non-compliant at the same time because they couldn't figure it out. Geez I'm glad haven't used 5GHz, or licensed links for almost two years now! Oh, and does this content tag out our list with the boys up the street?
Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit?
Great Jeremy, see you on Friday!! Anyone else that comes, will be nice to see you either later today at 3pm or on Friday at 11am. I hope those who visit can take away something that helps them in their own fiber considerations. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 11:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? I'm planning on coming Friday! On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.netmailto:sterl...@avative.net wrote: Location https://www.google.com/maps?q=40.388112,-111.910605 Copied from previous email sent to list: Ok, I will plan on hosting anyone that wants to visit either before the event on Tuesday the 3rd of February at 3PM, and Friday the 6th at 11AM. I don't think it will take longer than an hour. Location is in the city of Saratoga Springs, UT. The address of my office doesn't pull up well in Google Maps, but its in a strip mall a couple of blocks east of the center of town. That is a couple blocks east of the Wendys, Wallmart, Smiths Grocery, Wallgreens intersection. The sign on my office isn't installed, so it's still a Karate studio circular sign of a karate guy on top of an American Flag (naturally). There is a Jiffy Lube and a Subway Sandwich shop in the front of the stripmall. The address is: 258 East SR-73 Saratoga Springs, UT 84045 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:48 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Please refresh us. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Yes, today, and it's just me. Did everyone get the location date/time info? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 8:49 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Have not heard a word. I guess if you really want to screw with someone, make a transmitter that will light up on radar frequencies, hide it in a sync pipe, set it to randomly go off and install it on the competitors tower... Sterling, are you hosting folks today? -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 10:33 PM To: 'af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? S, with the ATT announcement, did the FCC visiting Utah ever report anything this time? I only heard they were investigating weather radar again. If it's like last time they were here, they will stew on the data for almost a year, then claim several companies as non-compliant at the same time because they couldn't figure it out. Geez I'm glad haven't used 5GHz, or licensed links for almost two years now! Oh, and does this content tag out our list with the boys up the street?
[AFMUG] REMINDER - AF2015 List is NOW LIVE !
Guys, Just reminding the AFMUG attendees that there is a separate list for the AFMUG conference. It is called AF2015 and you can subscribe and being using it now. If you subscribe to AF2015, do NOT unsubscribe from it or our API will unsubscribe you from the main AFMUG list as well. (no good work around for that as everything ties through the API to work with Amazon). To subscribe, send an email to (af2015-subscr...@afmug.commailto:af2015-subscr...@afmug.com ) then they will get the Amazon verification email (AGAIN, yeah, I know) AND the AF2015 verification email. So... You can join but you can never leave, haha! Seriously, after the event when people stop posting, we will just make the list inactive, with no need to unsubscribe. There IS an archive for the AF2015 group that can be accessed until such time as Chuck says to stop it (indefinitely is acceptable). The archive is being created sometime today. Paul :) Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Alpha FXM2000 UPS
Yeah, I bought a couple off ePrey. I like them a lot, so don't anyone buy any more off eBay please, :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 11:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Alpha FXM2000 UPS I remember these Alpha FXM2000 UPS's were discussed on the list in the past, and someone found a screaming deal on them.. anyone bought them recently? [Outdoor UPS | Alpha FXM 2000 UPS Module] https://atl.app.box.com/fxm-2000 Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.comhttp://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.commailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
deja vu -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 11:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
I've had that from my phone in poor signal areas. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 11:27:40 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net Looks like your SMTP server is double sending message XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: blockquote On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: blockquote Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
Hey we can do a session on AF on how to run email systems! You can be the speaker! Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 2/3/15, 1:26 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit?
Location https://www.google.com/maps?q=40.388112,-111.910605 Copied from previous email sent to list: Ok, I will plan on hosting anyone that wants to visit either before the event on Tuesday the 3rd of February at 3PM, and Friday the 6th at 11AM. I don't think it will take longer than an hour. Location is in the city of Saratoga Springs, UT. The address of my office doesn't pull up well in Google Maps, but its in a strip mall a couple of blocks east of the center of town. That is a couple blocks east of the Wendys, Wallmart, Smiths Grocery, Wallgreens intersection. The sign on my office isn't installed, so it's still a Karate studio circular sign of a karate guy on top of an American Flag (naturally). There is a Jiffy Lube and a Subway Sandwich shop in the front of the stripmall. The address is: 258 East SR-73 Saratoga Springs, UT 84045 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Please refresh us. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Yes, today, and it's just me. Did everyone get the location date/time info? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 8:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Have not heard a word. I guess if you really want to screw with someone, make a transmitter that will light up on radar frequencies, hide it in a sync pipe, set it to randomly go off and install it on the competitors tower... Sterling, are you hosting folks today? -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 10:33 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? S, with the ATT announcement, did the FCC visiting Utah ever report anything this time? I only heard they were investigating weather radar again. If it's like last time they were here, they will stew on the data for almost a year, then claim several companies as non-compliant at the same time because they couldn't figure it out. Geez I'm glad haven't used 5GHz, or licensed links for almost two years now! Oh, and does this content tag out our list with the boys up the street?
Re: [AFMUG] SAF freemile
An archive? What do you need Andreas? Also FM5 or FM5-GE? *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 LinkedIn *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF freemile Anyone have an archive of SAF Freemile 5 ghz product??? Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 Web: www.silowireless.com http://www.silowireless.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowireless http://www.facebook.com/silowireless Twitter: @silowireless
[AFMUG] Alpha FXM2000 UPS
I remember these Alpha FXM2000 UPS's were discussed on the list in the past, and someone found a screaming deal on them.. anyone bought them recently? https://atl.app.box.com/fxm-2000 Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
LOL! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 12:36 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
Looks like your SMTP server is double sending message XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
Geez everyone is so serious :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 12:28 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I've had that from my phone in poor signal areas. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 11:27:40 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net Looks like your SMTP server is double sending message XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit?
I'm planning on coming Friday! On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote: Location https://www.google.com/maps?q=40.388112,-111.910605 Copied from previous email sent to list: Ok, I will plan on hosting anyone that wants to visit either before the event on Tuesday the 3rd of February at 3PM, and Friday the 6th at 11AM. I don't think it will take longer than an hour. Location is in the city of Saratoga Springs, UT. The address of my office doesn't pull up well in Google Maps, but its in a strip mall a couple of blocks east of the center of town. That is a couple blocks east of the Wendys, Wallmart, Smiths Grocery, Wallgreens intersection. The sign on my office isn't installed, so it's still a Karate studio circular sign of a karate guy on top of an American Flag (naturally). There is a Jiffy Lube and a Subway Sandwich shop in the front of the stripmall. The address is: 258 East SR-73 Saratoga Springs, UT 84045 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Please refresh us. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Yes, today, and it's just me. Did everyone get the location date/time info? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 8:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Have not heard a word. I guess if you really want to screw with someone, make a transmitter that will light up on radar frequencies, hide it in a sync pipe, set it to randomly go off and install it on the competitors tower... Sterling, are you hosting folks today? -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 10:33 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? S, with the ATT announcement, did the FCC visiting Utah ever report anything this time? I only heard they were investigating weather radar again. If it's like last time they were here, they will stew on the data for almost a year, then claim several companies as non-compliant at the same time because they couldn't figure it out. Geez I'm glad haven't used 5GHz, or licensed links for almost two years now! Oh, and does this content tag out our list with the boys up the street?
Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit?
We will be there Fri ! Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 12:23 PM Great Jeremy, see you on Friday!! Anyone else that comes, will be nice to see you either later today at 3pm or on Friday at 11am. I hope those who visit can take away something that helps them in their own fiber considerations. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 11:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? I'm planning on coming Friday! On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote: Location https://www.google.com/maps?q=40.388112,-111.910605 Copied from previous email sent to list: Ok, I will plan on hosting anyone that wants to visit either before the event on Tuesday the 3rd of February at 3PM, and Friday the 6th at 11AM. I don't think it will take longer than an hour. Location is in the city of Saratoga Springs, UT. The address of my office doesn't pull up well in Google Maps, but its in a strip mall a couple of blocks east of the center of town. That is a couple blocks east of the Wendys, Wallmart, Smiths Grocery, Wallgreens intersection. The sign on my office isn't installed, so it's still a Karate studio circular sign of a karate guy on top of an American Flag (naturally). There is a Jiffy Lube and a Subway Sandwich shop in the front of the stripmall. The address is: 258 East SR-73 Saratoga Springs, UT 84045 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Please refresh us. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Yes, today, and it's just me. Did everyone get the location date/time info? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 8:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? Have not heard a word. I guess if you really want to screw with someone, make a transmitter that will light up on radar frequencies, hide it in a sync pipe, set it to randomly go off and install it on the competitors tower... Sterling, are you hosting folks today? -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 10:33 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Utah FCC visit? S, with the ATT announcement, did the FCC visiting Utah ever report anything this time? I only heard they were investigating weather radar again. If it's like last time they were here, they will stew on the data for almost a year, then claim several companies as non-compliant at the same time because they couldn't figure it out. Geez I'm glad haven't used 5GHz, or licensed links for almost two years now! Oh, and does this content tag out our list with the boys up the street?
[AFMUG] 3.65 PTP450
What kind of distance are you guys seeing for a LOS shot on 3.65? What antennas are you using to get that distance. I need 10Mbs aggregate.
Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 PTP450
Los 10 megs? Ubnt... On Feb 3, 2015 2:41 PM, Dan Petermann d...@wyoming.com wrote: What kind of distance are you guys seeing for a LOS shot on 3.65? What antennas are you using to get that distance. I need 10Mbs aggregate.
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
Travis, we know! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Alpha FXM2000 UPS
Where's the screaming deal? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.netmailto:sterl...@avative.net wrote: Yeah, I bought a couple off ePrey. I like them a lot, so don’t anyone buy any more off eBay please, :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 11:25 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Alpha FXM2000 UPS I remember these Alpha FXM2000 UPS’s were discussed on the list in the past, and someone found a screaming deal on them.. anyone bought them recently? image001.jpg https://atl.app.box.com/fxm-2000 Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.comhttp://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.commailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
