Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
We have a couple towers with UBNT 900s on them (sectors) and very poor results overall compared to the Canopy 900s. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:55 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS.Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] photos of the day from Sierra Leone
I'm jealous, it looks warm there... I'm tired of winter. On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think that snorkel is OEM. On Sunday, March 1, 2015, e...@kuhnke-international.com e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote:
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
DHCP will work through only one non-WDS hop. On our UBNT stuff, the customers are not WDS, but any intermediate bridges/hops are. For instance, if you're doing a micro-POP off of a main AP, you'd want the backhaul CPE to be in WDS mode. The CPEs connected to the micro AP would not need it. If you have a Canopy SM/BH feeding that micro AP, you're all good, Canopy is transparent bridging... unless you have translation bridging enabled, which sucks because it's for the entire sector. On 3/1/2015 4:03 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote: The small WISP I bought had everything bridged without WDS, as well as one I'm sort of partnered with now. DHCP doesn't work properly without WDS, however anything with a static IP works without WDS. A few clients did pull DHCP without WDS, but most did not. - Original Message - *From:* Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com *To:* Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 2:57 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Will try that Jaime Solorza On Mar 1, 2015 1:03 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: I've been having far better success using Mikrotik 9hpn radios. YMMV in that regard. I'm guessing you weren't passing data because you need to enable WDS on the AP and station. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:54am To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS.Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 tel:915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
The small WISP I bought had everything bridged without WDS, as well as one I'm sort of partnered with now. DHCP doesn't work properly without WDS, however anything with a static IP works without WDS. A few clients did pull DHCP without WDS, but most did not. - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza To: Animal Farm Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Will try that Jaime Solorza On Mar 1, 2015 1:03 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: I've been having far better success using Mikrotik 9hpn radios. YMMV in that regard. I'm guessing you weren't passing data because you need to enable WDS on the AP and station. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:54am To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
Glen, i'm not using wds, all ap's are hardwired back to main router. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at http://main.acsevents.org/site/TR/RelayForLife/RFLFY12FL?team_id=1030009pg=teamfr_id=37555 -- Sunday, March 1, 2015, 12:59:52 AM, you wrote: GW ?I was surprised as you are. Customer got them instead of the GW router I told her and I gave them a try. GW You do lose bandwidth, they're just WDS repeaters, but as far GW as seemless roaming Linksys got it right. GW The only thing I've had that worked as well for me was WDS GW with MT, however, the bandwidth issue again. GW Last hotel I did I used RB411 + dbii 2.4GHz N cards if memory GW serves, the ones that are no longer on the market. No WDS, GW ethernet to every AP, pretty good roaming, but coverage was so GW good that unless you had two rooms on opposite ends of the hotel GW on different floors it was never an issue. The dude's hotel had GW more capacity than some of my towers, just not the feed to support GW it. GW For the most part I've found the Linksys method to be GW seemless regardless of the clients. GW ï¿œ GW Just about everything I've tried that wasn't using WDS was GW highly dependent on the client, so roaming was all over the map. GW Some would never even hiccup while playing an MP3 over the GW network, others would hang on to a -95 in spite of the same SSID GW having a -50 nearby. I did watch the data stream on torch to make GW sure that my laptop wasn't buffering ahead. GW Linksys is a consumer level setup. Works fine for User Bob's GW house and User Bob can pick up replacements at Walmart. GW ï¿œ GW ï¿œ GW ï¿œ GW - Original Message - GW From: TJ Trout GW To:af@afmug.com GW Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 9:34 PM GW Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house GW Linksys and range extenders?ï¿œ Seriously? GW On Feb 28, 2015 7:32 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com wrote: GW TJ, GW Using all mikrotik, but your ubnt example made me go check to see what GW Mikrotik has.ï¿œ Looks like the have a signal-range option I can use. GW We'll see how that goes. GW -- GW Best regards, GW ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ mailto:m...@mailmt.com GW Myakka Technologies, Inc. GW www.MyakkaTech.com GW Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life GW http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL GW Please Donate at GW http://main.acsevents.org/site/TR/RelayForLife/RFLFY12FL?team_id=1030009 GW pg=team fr_id=37555 GW -- GW Saturday, February 28, 2015, 9:17:07 PM, you wrote: TT Only set the same ssid if they are all ubnt devices and then TT enable the minimum signal level to like -80 so it will kick them TT off and force them to roam to another ap. Otherwise you end up TT connected to the ap with the least signal while sitting right next TT to a different ap. If not then you need to just name them all TT differently. This still won't solve that issue but if you educate TT the customer they can manually switch aps. Best solution is mesh TT or unifi or minimum a ap that will disconnect the client at a set TT signal like ubiquiti TT On Feb 28, 2015 5:39 PM, Josh Luthman TT j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: TT We've generally done one SSID with success. TT At convention centers I do different because iOS had problems way back. TT Josh Luthman TT Office: 937-552-2340 TT Direct: 937-552-2343 TT 1100 Wayne St TT Suite 1337 TT Troy, OH 45373 TT On Feb 28, 2015 8:24 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com wrote: TT I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the TT home owner installing AP though out the house. TT Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the TT house.ï¿ I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get TT these configured so they are not stepping on each other. TT Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same TT or name them differently.ï¿ Any pro's or con's either way? TT -- TT Thanks, TT ï¿Markï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ mailto:m...@mailmt.com TT Myakka Technologies, Inc. TT www.MyakkaTech.com TT Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life TT http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL TT Please Donate at TT https://secure.acsevents.org/site/Donation2?df_id=1011305 TT PROXY_ID=1645865 PROXY_TYPE=22 FR_ID=57644 TT --- TT This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! TT Antivirus protection is active. TT http://www.avast.com GW --- GW This email is free from viruses and malware because GW avast! Antivirus protection is active. GW
[AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool
Anyone used this successfully? Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa 477 tool
I kept getting errors when I tried to use it last time. Haven't tried recently. On Sunday, March 1, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Anyone used this successfully? Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Metering PDUs
Right, but not just a PDU that tells you the entire PDU, but per port. Not all of them do that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:47:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metering PDUs Yeah...most of what I've seen requires you to put a CT ring around the hot wire. Not sure how you would achieve that with a PDU, Your best bet might be to look for a PDU with current monitoring as a built in feature. Suggestions for metering 0U PDUs? 120V 20A I found some for not much over $100, but found they weren't actually metered over the network, just locally and only for the entire PDU, not per outlet. Recommendations other than a bunch of mPowers? Actually, I think a rack mounted version was one of the first beta change requests I heard. That's gone as far as all of the other requests I've made. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] Metering PDUs
http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP7820ISOCountryCode=USgclid=CNyWx-DTiMQCFVAvgQodIUgAMAtab=software That's the first thing google found for me. I went do download the MIB to see if the current is in there and not just on the physical display, but apparently you have to register to download itsuddenly it became too much work for a Sunday night. Yeah...most of what I've seen requires you to put a CT ring around the hot wire. Not sure how you would achieve that with a PDU, Your best bet might be to look for a PDU with current monitoring as a built in feature. Suggestions for metering 0U PDUs? 120V 20A I found some for not much over $100, but found they weren't actually metered over the network, just locally and only for the entire PDU, not per outlet. Recommendations other than a bunch of mPowers? Actually, I think a rack mounted version was one of the first beta change requests I heard. That's gone as far as all of the other requests I've made. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
[AFMUG] Metering PDUs
Suggestions for metering 0U PDUs? 120V 20A I found some for not much over $100, but found they weren't actually metered over the network, just locally and only for the entire PDU, not per outlet. Recommendations other than a bunch of mPowers? Actually, I think a rack mounted version was one of the first beta change requests I heard. That's gone as far as all of the other requests I've made. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] Metering PDUs
Yeah...most of what I've seen requires you to put a CT ring around the hot wire. Not sure how you would achieve that with a PDU, Your best bet might be to look for a PDU with current monitoring as a built in feature. Suggestions for metering 0U PDUs? 120V 20A I found some for not much over $100, but found they weren't actually metered over the network, just locally and only for the entire PDU, not per outlet. Recommendations other than a bunch of mPowers? Actually, I think a rack mounted version was one of the first beta change requests I heard. That's gone as far as all of the other requests I've made. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
Re: [AFMUG] Metering PDUs
Geist might have PDUs metered per outlet. If you can live with a meter on the whole unit you could use digital loggers PDUs. http://www.digital-loggers.com/epcr5.html http://www.geistglobal.com/ On 3/1/2015 8:20 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Suggestions for metering 0U PDUs? 120V 20A I found some for not much over $100, but found they weren't actually metered over the network, just locally and only for the entire PDU, not per outlet. Recommendations other than a bunch of mPowers? Actually, I think a rack mounted version was one of the first beta change requests I heard. That's gone as far as all of the other requests I've made. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
I've been having far better success using Mikrotik 9hpn radios. YMMV in that regard. I'm guessing you weren't passing data because you need to enable WDS on the AP and station. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:54am To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS.Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
With Unifi you can set a minimum signal level, and give the whole site
one SSID. When a client gets to the edge of one zone, they will hand
off. It's not quite seamless, but it ain't bad. Way simpler for most
customers to understand.
You do have to test the edges of the zones.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/1/2015 7:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
How is Unifi coordinated?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 1, 2015 10:20 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:
If they are coordinated (like Unifi, or Meraki), they can all be
named the same, and can do almost zero hand-off.
If they are not coordinated, you may want to name them differently.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/28/2015 5:24 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away
with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.
Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered
around the
house. I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.
Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be
the same
or name them differently. Any pro's or con's either way?
Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
That's the way to do it. I've run into so many issues trying to do
WDS/repeater setups that I refuse to support them. They are just
problems wrapped in newspaper soaked in horse shit.
Separate APs hardwired back to the central router is the way.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/1/2015 6:21 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
Glen,
i'm not using wds, all ap's are hardwired back to main router.
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
I don't bother since I separate my backhauls vertically/azimuth enough for it to not really be relevant. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world applications? Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
Tons of it out there. RF Armor is the most isolating of the shielding setups out there for UBNT products, but it also the most cumbersome. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:08:12 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world applications? Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
If they are coordinated (like Unifi, or Meraki), they can all be named
the same, and can do almost zero hand-off.
If they are not coordinated, you may want to name them differently.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/28/2015 5:24 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.
Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
house. I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.
Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
or name them differently. Any pro's or con's either way?
Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
David, looked into that. didn't see anything about coordinating. Looked more like propagating settings. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at http://main.acsevents.org/site/TR/RelayForLife/RFLFY12FL?team_id=1030009pg=teamfr_id=37555 -- Sunday, March 1, 2015, 10:41:33 AM, you wrote: DM If you are using one as a router look into Capsman feature DM very cool stuff DM On 2/28/2015 9:32 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: DM TJ, DM Using all mikrotik, but your ubnt example made me go check to see what DM Mikrotik has. Looks like the have a signal-range option I can use. DM We'll see how that goes. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
That is the state of things here, even in small towns. -75ish connection, clear line of sight @ ~2 miles and I couldn’t use 900MHz, set at H pol anticipating interference. This wasn’t UBNT, but I’ve got UBNT in the plant as well. It isn’t significantly better dealing with noise around here. 900MHz is strictly rural for us, and even that is on a case by case basis. There are a lot of catfish farms in a portion of my coverage area that use 900MHz for the oxygen monitoring systems. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:54 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS.Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
How is Unifi coordinated?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 1, 2015 10:20 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
If they are coordinated (like Unifi, or Meraki), they can all be named the
same, and can do almost zero hand-off.
If they are not coordinated, you may want to name them differently.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/28/2015 5:24 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.
Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
house. I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.
Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
or name them differently. Any pro's or con's either way?
Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
If you are using one as a router look into Capsman feature very cool stuff On 2/28/2015 9:32 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: TJ, Using all mikrotik, but your ubnt example made me go check to see what Mikrotik has. Looks like the have a signal-range option I can use. We'll see how that goes. --
Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
How is it not?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 9:23:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
How is Unifi coordinated?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 1, 2015 10:20 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
If they are coordinated (like Unifi, or Meraki), they can all be named the
same, and can do almost zero hand-off.
If they are not coordinated, you may want to name them differently.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/28/2015 5:24 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
blockquote
I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.
Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered around the
house. I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.
Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be the same
or name them differently. Any pro's or con's either way?
/blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
Mikrotik now has a feature called capsman and when used with user
manager and radius u have a full turn key in house single point managed
network.
I am learning to use this with 3 accounts we are turning up and the
first one has been successful thus far. Still working out the ranges for
different zones but
so far so good.
On 3/1/2015 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
How is Unifi coordinated?
Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mar 1, 2015 10:20 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:
If they are coordinated (like Unifi, or Meraki), they can all be
named the same, and can do almost zero hand-off.
If they are not coordinated, you may want to name them differently.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/28/2015 5:24 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
I have an installer that may have gotten a bit carried away
with the
home owner installing AP though out the house.
Looks like we have one wireless router and 4 AP scattered
around the
house. I'm going over there on Monday to try to see if I can get
these configured so they are not stepping on each other.
Trying to figure out if I want to name all the SSID's to be
the same
or name them differently. Any pro's or con's either way?
--
[AFMUG] Rocket M900 tests
Hello Kool Kats: Hope you are enjoying a nice Sunday. Well I know some of you are in the clutches of ole man Winter. Did some testing with the M900 Rocket with dual pol Yagi installed at Condor's Lower Comanche Peak site Friday afternoon. The Good: Even at 8 miles blocked by buildings and houses, I could see the AP on site survey menu with signals in the -89 to -95 dBm range but no association.We had a mast with two antennas and M900 on truck with height about 10 ft. AGL.We moved to higher point and signal jumped to -75 dBm, The Bad: Radios associated but would not pass traffic using 5MHz channels. I tried 3 MHz channels as well and would not either. Noise floor was jumping from -95dBm to -81 dBm.. The association would stay up at -79 dB while moving and drop. As soon as we had clear shot with would connect but pass no traffic from Internet. I could make changes to AP but that was all. We moved closer to site and parked at furniture store with clear LOS. Even with a -65 dBm at 6 miles ,,,no Internet traffic. I had an IP from MT and speed test would load slowly and error out with latency message. Pings were all over the place with a few time outs. So interference was too great in this part of town to use these. I will share screen shots in later posts. We knew the 902.928 MHz noise floor in central and east side of El Paso was high so I was not surprised. On the far west El Paso which borders with New Mexico, we have a water company using these for SCADA and cameras at 1 1/2, 3 and 6 miles with no problems using 5 MHz channels colocated with Phoenix Contact FHSS 900MHz I/O.This link has an Ubiquiti sector on AP and dual TY-900 antennas at CPE side. Note: The M900 AP is collocated with several M5 rockets on same tower. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
[AFMUG] Rocket series shields
How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world applications? Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket series shields
We use them anytime there is another UBNT product (or any product for
that matter) in the same band within 100'. If the neighbor shows up in
a spectrum scan, then it is shielded as best we can.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/1/2015 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
How many of you are using the RF armor shields or similar on your
Rocket radios? Do you have a before and after scenario in real world
applications?
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Multiple AP in house
With mikrotik you have the flexibility to create your own coordination which is done in a few methods using the ACL with signal checks Placing your interfaces into a mesh or straight bridge or separate multiple Vaps on their own interface. With configs like this you will have more granular control over where or how the traffic can be managed. If you mean telling a client to move off an ap because its too busy and needs the client to move to a less congested AP then I do not think there is a way with mikrotik to implement that level of control. I do think that stuff like that will work its way out with typical 802.11 protocol. you could easily tell an ap to only connect clients within a close proximity its signal if it is between to main APs. So unless the client is within a few feet of the AP it will not connect it should continue to stay focused on its current AP. Tricks by turning down the power levels for this type of setup will help as well. On 3/1/2015 11:15 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: David, looked into that. didn't see anything about coordinating. Looked more like propagating settings. --
Re: [AFMUG] photos of the day from Sierra Leone
I don't think that snorkel is OEM. On Sunday, March 1, 2015, e...@kuhnke-international.com e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote:
