[AFMUG] OT: Homeland season finale (contains spoilers)

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

so - who thinks maybe the madam-president-elect might have been in on her own 
assassination attempt in order to take out so many of the people she holds 
responsible for slandering her son's memory?  maybe she wants to be a 
dictator...she sure seemed emotionless in the final scenes.

reading in between the lines - writers of homeland aren't happy clinton wasn't 
elected and they're having to "save face"  what better way to change the 
direction of the season and setup for the next season or two?  (i've heard it 
has already been renewed at least two more seasons)

in hind sight, she did seem completely surprised by the whole assassination 
attempt and was only saved because (get this) dar called...

yes - you read that right - dar saved her life.

wow.

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[George Skorup]

Part-90 had the low-power restriction removed back in about 2010, even 
for portables on itinerant frequencies. Used to be 2 or 4W, I forget. If 
you can get your hands on a Part-90 certified 10 to 25W HT, and your 
license is modified to reflect the max ERP of your MO class units, then 
you're good to go. I did a Part-90 CONUS VHF & UHF Itinerant app for us 
last year and specified 5W ERP since that's what most of the cheap-o 
Part-90 certified Chinese walkies will do on high-power.


On 4/9/2017 9:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Believe you are correct Lewis. .Never seen commercial ones more than 
five wattsI think Harris sells 7 watt for military and tactical use.


On Apr 9, 2017 7:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" > wrote:


Its not the licensed freq. I believe portables are limited to 5
watts in the US. I could be wrong.


On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 2:12 PM Mitch Koep > wrote:

LOL

It was set to the siren system Freq to test turn on turn off

during repair or install.

So what FCC REG is it in violation of when you use

the Licensed Freq???

Mitch


On 04/09/2017 12:57 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

I don't see how that meets FCC regs.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 11:59 AM Mitch Koep > wrote:

We used this to test the sirens


http://www.ebay.com/itm/7W-OUTPUT-HIGH-POWER-TYT-TH-F8-VHF-Handheld-Dual-Display-FM-DTMF-2-Way-Radio-/222143191036?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275




On 04/09/2017 11:40 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:


Most I of those we installed ages ago are VHF but the
only trigger is either a 2 tone or 5/6 tone paging
format.  Anyone can duplicate them with a $250 old
service monitor off eBay or with a sound card and some
specs. Feed that audio into a transmitter and it is
pretty simple.

All the old service monitors had all the common formats
used in rf.


On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 10:28 AM Chuck McCown
> wrote:

I forgot to mention, our whole system was paid for
by the feds about 20 years ago due to the nerve gas
incinerator.
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend
Chuck ? :)
Where I live this half of the county is totally
covered.  Each Wednesday at 3pm it says :  “this is
a test, this is  a test, this is a test of the
Tooele county emergency warning system”.  Looks like
900 MHz feeding the system.  Many times I have
thought about commandeering the system to announce
the return of Jesus or something.
*From:* Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend
Chuck ? :)
If it's an old system, it's very possible there's
nothing desirable like authentication/encryption -
it may just be "turn on the sirens if you see any
signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz" Anyone with
some RF knowledge, a $300 SDR (HackRF One) and a $50
amateur radio flea market "2 meter band" amplifier
could blanket a city with such a signal.
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
 wrote:

Sirens are bad right ?
Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I
am sure these things are set off with a radio
right

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone



-- 
Mitch Koep


A Better Wireless
218-851-8689   cell



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Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

One has to ask...

How did they deal with those situations in which a cable cut or other
similar event necessitated the addition of another ped in the middle?

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Everybody has their own numbering system.  One company I worked for had
> things like 3E4SW2N  so that would be starting from the C.O.  3peds East, 4
> southwest, 2 north.  One just ran sequential numbers.  Different
> engineering companies have their own numbering standards if the customer
> does not specify.
>
> *From:* Brian Webster
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 08, 2017 7:30 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation
>
>
> When I was helping on the Google fiber designs (working for Ericsson), the
> distances were measured by what they called stationing distances. This was
> usually a distance from a given starting point be in a CO or fiber hut or
> other logical origination. It was measured in feet and had its own
> notation/number system. Engineering drawing for the build always show the
> stationing distance for things like poles, vaults and such. It was linear
> distance and not cable/fiber distance. This gives you a fixed point
> anywhere along the plant even when the fiber lengths may change due to cuts
> and such. Chuck can probably explain the numbering system better. I would
> then add fields for fiber length and OTDR test measurements in the database
> records. Ericsson has an outside plant database and GIS system and that was
> how they set things up. It was very elaborate to the point of managing
> fibers/circuits, butterfly diagrams for manhole/vault layouts with all the
> ports and fiber bundles, cross connect and splice points, etc. The backed
> database was large and had many relationships.
>
>
>
>
>
> Found some documentation I had when learning about stationing.
>
>
>
> Stationing is the fundamental system of measurement used for road layout
> and construction. Stations are reference points that are placed along the
> horizontal measurement of a route centerline or a baseline at some regular
> interval. Generally, the distance between two adjoining stations along a
> route is 100 feet. The first station located at the beginning of the
> baseline is 0+00, and the next station located 100 feet from it is 1+00.
> Therefore, a station number of 10+34.05 denotes 1,034.05 feet (10*100 +
> 34.05) from the starting station.
>
> [image: Placement of stations along a centerline]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 08, 2017 10:21 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation
>
>
>
> No, that whole route is there.  All the details are on that sheet.  It is
> a 4 strand cable that is spliced at cherry and apple handhole
>
>
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 08, 2017 5:52 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation
>
>
>
> It seems like the book starts with the endpoints at the COwhich makes
> sense because that's where you'll start troubleshooting from.
>
>
>
> Would there be a separate book for whatever cable is carrying strand 3
> from Cherry and Apple to VPres ?
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Chuck McCown" 
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 4/7/2017 11:16:39 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation
>
>
>
> See if you can open this:
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-W9J8tPanuAeU1Lc3BDYWlVSjg
>
>
>
> Very rudimentary.  But you can see that some of the strands on the cable
> go clear to the end.
>
> Other strands are cut at a hand hole and spliced to another cable.
>
>
>
> The other cable is shown at the far right.  The >< symbols show it is
> spliced to a different cable.  You connect the > to the < as you jump  over
> handholes that are not part of the circuit for that strand.
>
>
>
> The – is a splice.  The 0 or dot is the end termination.  I used to have
> lots of color coding etc.  I could not find any of the old copper cable
> books for an example so I hacked this example out.
>
>
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2017 8:42 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation
>
>
>
> One column per splice.then you just type in the footage(s).
>
> Gee that makes sense.  It's as if you've done this before.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Chuck McCown" 
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 4/7/2017 10:31:17 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation
>
>
>
> A spreadsheet works pretty well.
>
> One line per strand.  Have fields at the left for details about the
> circuit, customer, type of optics etc.
>
> Then columns can represent footage to the splice with one column per
> splice.  You can even represent other cables being spliced in and taking
> off on another route.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Depends on if you are using it  under part 90 (business radio) or Part 97
(amateur radio).Part 97 doesn't make a distinction as to portable
use.

-forrest



On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> Its not the licensed freq. I believe portables are limited to 5 watts in
> the US. I could be wrong.
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 2:12 PM Mitch Koep  wrote:
>
>> LOL
>>
>> It was set to the siren system Freq to test turn on turn off
>>
>> during repair or install.
>>
>> So what FCC REG is it in violation of when you use
>>
>> the Licensed Freq???
>>
>> Mitch
>>
>> On 04/09/2017 12:57 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> I don't see how that meets FCC regs.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 11:59 AM Mitch Koep  wrote:
>>
>> We used this to test the sirens
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/7W-OUTPUT-HIGH-POWER-TYT-TH-F8-
>> VHF-Handheld-Dual-Display-FM-DTMF-2-Way-Radio-/
>> 222143191036?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275
>>
>> On 04/09/2017 11:40 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> Most I of those we installed ages ago are VHF but the only trigger is
>> either a 2 tone or 5/6 tone paging format.  Anyone can duplicate them with
>> a $250 old service monitor off eBay or with a sound card and some specs.
>> Feed that audio into a transmitter and it is pretty simple.
>>
>> All the old service monitors had all the common formats used in rf.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 10:28 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>> I forgot to mention, our whole system was paid for by the feds about 20
>> years ago due to the nerve gas incinerator.
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
>> Where I live this half of the county is totally covered.  Each Wednesday
>> at 3pm it says :  “this is a test, this is  a test, this is a test of the
>> Tooele county emergency warning system”.  Looks like 900 MHz feeding the
>> system.  Many times I have thought about commandeering the system to
>> announce the return of Jesus or something.
>>
>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
>>
>> If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing desirable like
>> authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on the sirens if you see
>> any signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF knowledge, a
>> $300 SDR (HackRF One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market "2 meter band"
>> amplifier could blanket a city with such a signal.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sirens are bad right ?
>>
>> Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these things are
>> set off with a radio right
>>
>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-
>> triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mitch Koep
>>
>> A Better Wireless218-851-8689 <(218)%20851-8689> cell
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mitch Koep
>>
>> A Better Wireless218-851-8689 <(218)%20851-8689> cell
>>
>>


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Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[Jaime Solorza]

Believe you are correct Lewis. .Never seen commercial ones more than five
wattsI think Harris sells 7 watt for military and tactical use.

On Apr 9, 2017 7:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> Its not the licensed freq. I believe portables are limited to 5 watts in
> the US. I could be wrong.
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 2:12 PM Mitch Koep  wrote:
>
>> LOL
>>
>> It was set to the siren system Freq to test turn on turn off
>>
>> during repair or install.
>>
>> So what FCC REG is it in violation of when you use
>>
>> the Licensed Freq???
>>
>> Mitch
>>
>> On 04/09/2017 12:57 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> I don't see how that meets FCC regs.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 11:59 AM Mitch Koep  wrote:
>>
>> We used this to test the sirens
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/7W-OUTPUT-HIGH-POWER-TYT-TH-F8-
>> VHF-Handheld-Dual-Display-FM-DTMF-2-Way-Radio-/
>> 222143191036?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275
>>
>> On 04/09/2017 11:40 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> Most I of those we installed ages ago are VHF but the only trigger is
>> either a 2 tone or 5/6 tone paging format.  Anyone can duplicate them with
>> a $250 old service monitor off eBay or with a sound card and some specs.
>> Feed that audio into a transmitter and it is pretty simple.
>>
>> All the old service monitors had all the common formats used in rf.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 10:28 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>> I forgot to mention, our whole system was paid for by the feds about 20
>> years ago due to the nerve gas incinerator.
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
>> Where I live this half of the county is totally covered.  Each Wednesday
>> at 3pm it says :  “this is a test, this is  a test, this is a test of the
>> Tooele county emergency warning system”.  Looks like 900 MHz feeding the
>> system.  Many times I have thought about commandeering the system to
>> announce the return of Jesus or something.
>>
>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
>>
>> If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing desirable like
>> authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on the sirens if you see
>> any signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF knowledge, a
>> $300 SDR (HackRF One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market "2 meter band"
>> amplifier could blanket a city with such a signal.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sirens are bad right ?
>>
>> Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these things are
>> set off with a radio right
>>
>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-
>> triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mitch Koep
>>
>> A Better Wireless218-851-8689 <(218)%20851-8689> cell
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mitch Koep
>>
>> A Better Wireless218-851-8689 <(218)%20851-8689> cell
>>
>>

[AFMUG] Non pilot drone license for commercial use?

[Paul McCall]

Any non-pilots here that have gotten their license to use their drone for 
commercial purposes?

Interested in your experience, your studying and the test, etc.

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[Lewis Bergman]

Its not the licensed freq. I believe portables are limited to 5 watts in
the US. I could be wrong.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 2:12 PM Mitch Koep  wrote:

> LOL
>
> It was set to the siren system Freq to test turn on turn off
>
> during repair or install.
>
> So what FCC REG is it in violation of when you use
>
> the Licensed Freq???
>
> Mitch
>
> On 04/09/2017 12:57 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> I don't see how that meets FCC regs.
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 11:59 AM Mitch Koep  wrote:
>
> We used this to test the sirens
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/7W-OUTPUT-HIGH-POWER-TYT-TH-F8-VHF-Handheld-Dual-Display-FM-DTMF-2-Way-Radio-/222143191036?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275
>
> On 04/09/2017 11:40 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> Most I of those we installed ages ago are VHF but the only trigger is
> either a 2 tone or 5/6 tone paging format.  Anyone can duplicate them with
> a $250 old service monitor off eBay or with a sound card and some specs.
> Feed that audio into a transmitter and it is pretty simple.
>
> All the old service monitors had all the common formats used in rf.
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 10:28 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> I forgot to mention, our whole system was paid for by the feds about 20
> years ago due to the nerve gas incinerator.
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
> Where I live this half of the county is totally covered.  Each Wednesday
> at 3pm it says :  “this is a test, this is  a test, this is a test of the
> Tooele county emergency warning system”.  Looks like 900 MHz feeding the
> system.  Many times I have thought about commandeering the system to
> announce the return of Jesus or something.
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
>
> If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing desirable like
> authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on the sirens if you see
> any signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF knowledge, a
> $300 SDR (HackRF One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market "2 meter band"
> amplifier could blanket a city with such a signal.
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>
> Sirens are bad right ?
>
> Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these things are
> set off with a radio right
>
>
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mitch Koep
>
> A Better Wireless
> 218-851-8689 cell
>
>
> --
> Mitch Koep
>
> A Better Wireless
> 218-851-8689 cell
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[Mitch Koep]

LOL

It was set to the siren system Freq to test turn on turn off

during repair or install.

So what FCC REG is it in violation of when you use

the Licensed Freq???

Mitch


On 04/09/2017 12:57 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

I don't see how that meets FCC regs.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 11:59 AM Mitch Koep > wrote:


We used this to test the sirens


http://www.ebay.com/itm/7W-OUTPUT-HIGH-POWER-TYT-TH-F8-VHF-Handheld-Dual-Display-FM-DTMF-2-Way-Radio-/222143191036?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275


On 04/09/2017 11:40 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:


Most I of those we installed ages ago are VHF but the only
trigger is either a 2 tone or 5/6 tone paging format.  Anyone can
duplicate them with a $250 old service monitor off eBay or with a
sound card and some specs. Feed that audio into a transmitter and
it is pretty simple.

All the old service monitors had all the common formats used in rf.


On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 10:28 AM Chuck McCown > wrote:

I forgot to mention, our whole system was paid for by the
feds about 20 years ago due to the nerve gas incinerator.
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
Where I live this half of the county is totally covered. Each
Wednesday at 3pm it says :  “this is a test, this is  a test,
this is a test of the Tooele county emergency warning
system”.  Looks like 900 MHz feeding the system.  Many times
I have thought about commandeering the system to announce the
return of Jesus or something.
*From:* Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing
desirable like authentication/encryption - it may just be
"turn on the sirens if you see any signal on the frequency of
155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF knowledge, a $300 SDR (HackRF
One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market "2 meter band"
amplifier could blanket a city with such a signal.
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
 wrote:

Sirens are bad right ?
Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure
these things are set off with a radio right

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone



-- 
Mitch Koep


A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell



--
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

no way to track who did it i assume?  I mean, the radio signal already came and 
went

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck McCown 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 12:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)


  Wow, that is secure.  
  I’ll bet there is a dtmf cell phone decoder app these days.  
  I used to build a little box called the Tone Trap back in my call back dialer 
manufacturing days.  

  From: Mitch Koep 
  Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 10:59 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

  We used this to test the sirens

  
http://www.ebay.com/itm/7W-OUTPUT-HIGH-POWER-TYT-TH-F8-VHF-Handheld-Dual-Display-FM-DTMF-2-Way-Radio-/222143191036?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275




  On 04/09/2017 11:40 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

Most I of those we installed ages ago are VHF but the only trigger is 
either a 2 tone or 5/6 tone paging format.  Anyone can duplicate them with a 
$250 old service monitor off eBay or with a sound card and some specs. Feed 
that audio into a transmitter and it is pretty simple. 

All the old service monitors had all the common formats used in rf.



On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 10:28 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  I forgot to mention, our whole system was paid for by the feds about 20 
years ago due to the nerve gas incinerator.  

  From: Chuck McCown 
  Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
  Where I live this half of the county is totally covered.  Each Wednesday 
at 3pm it says :  “this is a test, this is  a test, this is a test of the 
Tooele county emergency warning system”.  Looks like 900 MHz feeding the 
system.  Many times I have thought about commandeering the system to announce 
the return of Jesus or something.  

  From: Colin Stanners 
  Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

  If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing desirable like 
authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on the sirens if you see any 
signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF knowledge, a $300 
SDR (HackRF One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market "2 meter band" amplifier 
could blanket a city with such a signal.


  On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


Sirens are bad right ?

Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these things 
are set off with a radio right


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone





-- 
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[Lewis Bergman]

I don't see how that meets FCC regs.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 11:59 AM Mitch Koep  wrote:

> We used this to test the sirens
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/7W-OUTPUT-HIGH-POWER-TYT-TH-F8-VHF-Handheld-Dual-Display-FM-DTMF-2-Way-Radio-/222143191036?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275
>
> On 04/09/2017 11:40 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> Most I of those we installed ages ago are VHF but the only trigger is
> either a 2 tone or 5/6 tone paging format.  Anyone can duplicate them with
> a $250 old service monitor off eBay or with a sound card and some specs.
> Feed that audio into a transmitter and it is pretty simple.
>
> All the old service monitors had all the common formats used in rf.
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 10:28 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> I forgot to mention, our whole system was paid for by the feds about 20
> years ago due to the nerve gas incinerator.
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
> Where I live this half of the county is totally covered.  Each Wednesday
> at 3pm it says :  “this is a test, this is  a test, this is a test of the
> Tooele county emergency warning system”.  Looks like 900 MHz feeding the
> system.  Many times I have thought about commandeering the system to
> announce the return of Jesus or something.
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
>
> If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing desirable like
> authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on the sirens if you see
> any signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF knowledge, a
> $300 SDR (HackRF One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market "2 meter band"
> amplifier could blanket a city with such a signal.
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>
> Sirens are bad right ?
>
> Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these things are
> set off with a radio right
>
>
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mitch Koep
>
> A Better Wireless
> 218-851-8689 cell
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber replacing cable co

[Jon Langeler]

Agreed. Except I think your talking about wireless

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Jeremy  wrote:
> 
> We have Comcast in our area.  We don't really try to compete with them.  As 
> far as price, our monthly cost is half of theirs.  However, their cost per 
> Mbps is much much less.  Most customers in our area get between 25-100Mbps.  
> We still get a lot of people switching because they don't need that much 
> speed, don't want to pay that much per month, and are tired of the constant 
> price increases and customer service issues.  We always make Comcast 
> customers go online and check their last few months of data usage, since they 
> are virtually unlimited and we are not.  We don't even attempt to take 
> Comcast business customers.  They give them 100Mbps for roughly the same that 
> we charge for 10Mbps.
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 7:15 PM, Sterling Jacobson  
>> wrote:
>> Yes, we did a neighborhood about two years ago that was Comcast.
>> 
>> The surprising thing to me was the higher number of people just 'switching' 
>> their Comcast $80+ bill to our $70 GigE rate plan.
>> No questions asked, they still saw it as a flat rate reduction and applied 
>> for that rate instead of our 100Mbps $50 plan.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
>> Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 11:55 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber replacing cable co
>> 
>> Is anyone competing against Charter or Comcast? What's the pricing/speed 
>> model?
>> 
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[Chuck McCown]

Wow, that is secure.  
I’ll bet there is a dtmf cell phone decoder app these days.  
I used to build a little box called the Tone Trap back in my call back dialer 
manufacturing days.  

From: Mitch Koep 
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 10:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

We used this to test the sirens

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7W-OUTPUT-HIGH-POWER-TYT-TH-F8-VHF-Handheld-Dual-Display-FM-DTMF-2-Way-Radio-/222143191036?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275




On 04/09/2017 11:40 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

  Most I of those we installed ages ago are VHF but the only trigger is either 
a 2 tone or 5/6 tone paging format.  Anyone can duplicate them with a $250 old 
service monitor off eBay or with a sound card and some specs. Feed that audio 
into a transmitter and it is pretty simple. 

  All the old service monitors had all the common formats used in rf.



  On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 10:28 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

I forgot to mention, our whole system was paid for by the feds about 20 
years ago due to the nerve gas incinerator.  

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
Where I live this half of the county is totally covered.  Each Wednesday at 
3pm it says :  “this is a test, this is  a test, this is a test of the Tooele 
county emergency warning system”.  Looks like 900 MHz feeding the system.  Many 
times I have thought about commandeering the system to announce the return of 
Jesus or something.  

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing desirable like 
authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on the sirens if you see any 
signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF knowledge, a $300 
SDR (HackRF One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market "2 meter band" amplifier 
could blanket a city with such a signal.


On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


  Sirens are bad right ?

  Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these things are 
set off with a radio right

  
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/


  Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone





-- 
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[Mitch Koep]

We used this to test the sirens

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7W-OUTPUT-HIGH-POWER-TYT-TH-F8-VHF-Handheld-Dual-Display-FM-DTMF-2-Way-Radio-/222143191036?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275


On 04/09/2017 11:40 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:


Most I of those we installed ages ago are VHF but the only trigger is 
either a 2 tone or 5/6 tone paging format. Anyone can duplicate them 
with a $250 old service monitor off eBay or with a sound card and some 
specs. Feed that audio into a transmitter and it is pretty simple.


All the old service monitors had all the common formats used in rf.


On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 10:28 AM Chuck McCown > wrote:


I forgot to mention, our whole system was paid for by the feds
about 20 years ago due to the nerve gas incinerator.
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
Where I live this half of the county is totally covered.  Each
Wednesday at 3pm it says :  “this is a test, this is  a test, this
is a test of the Tooele county emergency warning system”.  Looks
like 900 MHz feeding the system.  Many times I have thought about
commandeering the system to announce the return of Jesus or
something.
*From:* Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing
desirable like authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on
the sirens if you see any signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz"
Anyone with some RF knowledge, a $300 SDR (HackRF One) and a $50
amateur radio flea market "2 meter band" amplifier could blanket a
city with such a signal.
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
 wrote:

Sirens are bad right ?
Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these
things are set off with a radio right

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone



--
Mitch Koep

A Better Wireless
218-851-8689 cell

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[Lewis Bergman]

 There are but they are expensive fork lift upgrades. The manufacturers
want yippy to replace the whole controller. It is petty easy to wire it in
but the government entities are nervous about doing something the
manufacturer won't support.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 8:14 AM George Skorup  wrote:

> Shouldn't be too hard to fix seeing as how Dallas is on a 700MHz P25
> network. I'm sure there are P25-based controller upgrade/swap-in kits from
> siren mfgs. I believe that's what they did here in my neck of the corn.
> Either that or cellular. All of the DTMF and/or FSK via RF activated sirens
> are gone as of 5-6 years ago. Apparently not in Dallas.
>
>
> On 4/9/2017 4:52 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>
> If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing desirable like
> authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on the sirens if you see
> any signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF knowledge, a
> $300 SDR (HackRF One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market "2 meter band"
> amplifier could blanket a city with such a signal.
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>
> Sirens are bad right ?
>
> Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these things are
> set off with a radio right
>
>
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[Lewis Bergman]

Most I of those we installed ages ago are VHF but the only trigger is
either a 2 tone or 5/6 tone paging format.  Anyone can duplicate them with
a $250 old service monitor off eBay or with a sound card and some specs.
Feed that audio into a transmitter and it is pretty simple.

All the old service monitors had all the common formats used in rf.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017, 10:28 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I forgot to mention, our whole system was paid for by the feds about 20
> years ago due to the nerve gas incinerator.
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
> Where I live this half of the county is totally covered.  Each Wednesday
> at 3pm it says :  “this is a test, this is  a test, this is a test of the
> Tooele county emergency warning system”.  Looks like 900 MHz feeding the
> system.  Many times I have thought about commandeering the system to
> announce the return of Jesus or something.
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)
>
> If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing desirable like
> authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on the sirens if you see
> any signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF knowledge, a
> $300 SDR (HackRF One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market "2 meter band"
> amplifier could blanket a city with such a signal.
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>
> Sirens are bad right ?
>
> Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these things are
> set off with a radio right
>
>
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[Chuck McCown]

I forgot to mention, our whole system was paid for by the feds about 20 years 
ago due to the nerve gas incinerator.  

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

Where I live this half of the county is totally covered.  Each Wednesday at 3pm 
it says :  “this is a test, this is  a test, this is a test of the Tooele 
county emergency warning system”.  Looks like 900 MHz feeding the system.  Many 
times I have thought about commandeering the system to announce the return of 
Jesus or something.  

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing desirable like 
authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on the sirens if you see any 
signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF knowledge, a $300 
SDR (HackRF One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market "2 meter band" amplifier 
could blanket a city with such a signal.


On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:


  Sirens are bad right ?

  Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these things are set 
off with a radio right

  
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/


  Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] CISCO VLAN question

[Chuck McCown]

That triggers ptsd.  

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 9:24 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CISCO VLAN question 


My favorite kind of programming!


bp


On 4/8/2017 8:35 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote:
I prefer toggling the bootstrap into core memory through the front 
console switches.

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[Chuck McCown]

Where I live this half of the county is totally covered.  Each Wednesday at 3pm 
it says :  “this is a test, this is  a test, this is a test of the Tooele 
county emergency warning system”.  Looks like 900 MHz feeding the system.  Many 
times I have thought about commandeering the system to announce the return of 
Jesus or something.  

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing desirable like 
authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on the sirens if you see any 
signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF knowledge, a $300 
SDR (HackRF One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market "2 meter band" amplifier 
could blanket a city with such a signal.


On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:


  Sirens are bad right ?

  Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these things are set 
off with a radio right

  
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/


  Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] CISCO VLAN question

[Bill Prince]

My favorite kind of programming!


bp


On 4/8/2017 8:35 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote:
I prefer toggling the bootstrap into core memory through the front 
console switches.

Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation

[Chuck McCown]

Everybody has their own numbering system.  One company I worked for had things 
like 3E4SW2N  so that would be starting from the C.O.  3peds East, 4 southwest, 
2 north.  One just ran sequential numbers.  Different engineering companies 
have their own numbering standards if the customer does not specify.  

From: Brian Webster 
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 7:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation

When I was helping on the Google fiber designs (working for Ericsson), the 
distances were measured by what they called stationing distances. This was 
usually a distance from a given starting point be in a CO or fiber hut or other 
logical origination. It was measured in feet and had its own notation/number 
system. Engineering drawing for the build always show the stationing distance 
for things like poles, vaults and such. It was linear distance and not 
cable/fiber distance. This gives you a fixed point anywhere along the plant 
even when the fiber lengths may change due to cuts and such. Chuck can probably 
explain the numbering system better. I would then add fields for fiber length 
and OTDR test measurements in the database records. Ericsson has an outside 
plant database and GIS system and that was how they set things up. It was very 
elaborate to the point of managing fibers/circuits, butterfly diagrams for 
manhole/vault layouts with all the ports and fiber bundles, cross connect and 
splice points, etc. The backed database was large and had many relationships.

 

 

Found some documentation I had when learning about stationing.

 

Stationing is the fundamental system of measurement used for road layout and 
construction. Stations are reference points that are placed along the 
horizontal measurement of a route centerline or a baseline at some regular 
interval. Generally, the distance between two adjoining stations along a route 
is 100 feet. The first station located at the beginning of the baseline is 
0+00, and the next station located 100 feet from it is 1+00. Therefore, a 
station number of 10+34.05 denotes 1,034.05 feet (10*100 + 34.05) from the 
starting station.



 

 

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 10:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation

 

No, that whole route is there.  All the details are on that sheet.  It is a 4 
strand cable that is spliced at cherry and apple handhole

 

From: Adam Moffett 

Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 5:52 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation

 

It seems like the book starts with the endpoints at the COwhich makes sense 
because that's where you'll start troubleshooting from.

 

Would there be a separate book for whatever cable is carrying strand 3 from 
Cherry and Apple to VPres ?

 

 

-- Original Message --

From: "Chuck McCown" 

To: af@afmug.com

Sent: 4/7/2017 11:16:39 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation

 

  See if you can open this:

  https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-W9J8tPanuAeU1Lc3BDYWlVSjg

   

  Very rudimentary.  But you can see that some of the strands on the cable go 
clear to the end.

  Other strands are cut at a hand hole and spliced to another cable.

   

  The other cable is shown at the far right.  The >< symbols show it is spliced 
to a different cable.  You connect the > to the < as you jump  over handholes 
that are not part of the circuit for that strand.

   

  The – is a splice.  The 0 or dot is the end termination.  I used to have lots 
of color coding etc.  I could not find any of the old copper cable books for an 
example so I hacked this example out.  

   

  From: Adam Moffett 

  Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 8:42 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation

   

  One column per splice.then you just type in the footage(s).

  Gee that makes sense.  It's as if you've done this before.

   

   

  -- Original Message --

  From: "Chuck McCown" 

  To: af@afmug.com

  Sent: 4/7/2017 10:31:17 PM

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation

   

A spreadsheet works pretty well.  

One line per strand.  Have fields at the left for details about the 
circuit, customer, type of optics etc.

Then columns can represent footage to the splice with one column per 
splice.  You can even represent other cables being spliced in and taking off on 
another route.  

 

From: Justin Wilson 

Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 4:06 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable documentation

 

The line guys would do the following at the local phone company I worked 
out many many years ago.  I am sure there are lots of better ways to do it with 
modern processes. 

 

The cared about a few things.  Where can I find the splice points? Where 
can I find vaults? Where are 

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber replacing cable co

[Jeremy]

We have Comcast in our area.  We don't really try to compete with them.  As
far as price, our monthly cost is half of theirs.  However, their cost per
Mbps is much much less.  Most customers in our area get between
25-100Mbps.  We still get a lot of people switching because they don't need
that much speed, don't want to pay that much per month, and are tired of
the constant price increases and customer service issues.  We always make
Comcast customers go online and check their last few months of data usage,
since they are virtually unlimited and we are not.  We don't even attempt
to take Comcast business customers.  They give them 100Mbps for roughly the
same that we charge for 10Mbps.

On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 7:15 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> Yes, we did a neighborhood about two years ago that was Comcast.
>
> The surprising thing to me was the higher number of people just
> 'switching' their Comcast $80+ bill to our $70 GigE rate plan.
> No questions asked, they still saw it as a flat rate reduction and applied
> for that rate instead of our 100Mbps $50 plan.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
> Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 11:55 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber replacing cable co
>
> Is anyone competing against Charter or Comcast? What's the pricing/speed
> model?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[George Skorup]

Shouldn't be too hard to fix seeing as how Dallas is on a 700MHz P25 
network. I'm sure there are P25-based controller upgrade/swap-in kits 
from siren mfgs. I believe that's what they did here in my neck of the 
corn. Either that or cellular. All of the DTMF and/or FSK via RF 
activated sirens are gone as of 5-6 years ago. Apparently not in Dallas.


On 4/9/2017 4:52 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:
If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing desirable 
like authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on the sirens if 
you see any signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF 
knowledge, a $300 SDR (HackRF One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market 
"2 meter band" amplifier could blanket a city with such a signal.


On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
> wrote:



Sirens are bad right ?

Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these
things are set off with a radio right


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/




Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] OT: California has so much solar power, it has periods of "negative cost"

[Mike Hammett]

A lot of the datacenter companies have "switched" to renewable power due to 
customer demand. As a customer, I've demanded cheap power. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Bill Prince"  
To: "Motorola III"  
Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 7:45:44 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: California has so much solar power, it has periods of 
"negative cost" 


The headline is somewhat tongue in cheek, but the implications are 
obvious. There will be times this spring (and it's already happened on 
March 11) when there is so much solar power, and it's exceeding the 
demand, that the effective wholesale cost is negative. 

https://qz.com/953614/california-produced-so-much-power-from-solar-energy-this-spring-that-wholesale-electricity-prices-turned-negative/
 

Interesting factoid: "California produces half the solar power for the 
entire country." 

-- 

bp 
 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino's kid

[Gino Villarini]

Thanks Chuck!


From: Af > on behalf of Chuck 
McCown >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Saturday, April 8, 2017 at 11:48 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: [AFMUG] Gino's kid




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Re: [AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[Colin Stanners]

If it's an old system, it's very possible there's nothing desirable like
authentication/encryption - it may just be "turn on the sirens if you see
any signal on the frequency of 155.555mhz" Anyone with some RF knowledge, a
$300 SDR (HackRF One) and a $50 amateur radio flea market "2 meter band"
amplifier could blanket a city with such a signal.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:15 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
wrote:

>
> Sirens are bad right ?
>
> Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these things are
> set off with a radio right
>
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-
> triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>

[AFMUG] Were you bored this weekend Chuck ? :)

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Sirens are bad right ?

Create a custom radio on a certain frequency? I am sure these things are set 
off with a radio right

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/08/hacker-triggers-all-156-emergency-sirens-dallas/100212412/


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone