Re: [AFMUG] Anyone have a few epmp 2.4 GPS APs they could ship me overnight?

[Brandon Yuchasz]

Just wanted to follow up and say that this list is a great resource for
knowledge but also for the people. We were able to get the APs from a member
and they will be on the tower tomorrow weather depending.

Thanks

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Yuchasz
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 9:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Anyone have a few epmp 2.4 GPS APs they could ship me
overnight?

 

We are in a little bit of a pinch. We have had three towers damaged in
storms over the last three days and are completely out of spare APs in ePMP
2.4 GPS units. 

This last tower location didn't receive damage until 4:45pm today and by the
time we were made aware and verified the damage it was fairly late in the
evening and I could not order units. So I figured I would reach out to the
list to see if I could come up with 3 APs from anyone that they could ship
out to me overnight UPS. I won't be able to get them moving until Monday
from any distributors but If I can get them moving tomorrow from one of you
all we can hang them Monday.

Hit me off list if you can help.

bran...@gogebicrange.net 

Obviously I will pay for the units and any shipping cost. I can send paypal
or give you a credit card if that works.

 

Thanks in advance.

Brandon

 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Colin Stanners]

Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline
to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or
pray, everything is dead in the water.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
wrote:

> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general
> cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and
> utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried
> utilities.  Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9
> months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are
> crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just
> damaged but totally missing.  What is there still is water damaged or has
> fried Ethernet from water infiltration
> But power is the major issue in the USVI also
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones  wrote:
>
> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut
> and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy,
> never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
> smartmeters and starbucks
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
>> lot of other Caribbean islands.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind
>>>  and/or solar power.
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
 Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
 supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
 may be optimistic.


 bp
 


 On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
 �
 I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
 anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
 �
 Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
 and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
 damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
 functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
 �
 Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk
 that work with emergency preparedness.�
 �
 I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
 Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�



>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Josh Luthman]

https://twitter.com/NWSSanJuan/status/912088552145645568


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Check out the pictures of what's remaining of the San Juan weather radar.
>
> https://twitter.com/NWSSanJuan
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
> > With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut
> and
> > run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy,
> never
> > have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
> > smartmeters and starbucks
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
> >> lot of other Caribbean islands.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser <
> er...@northcentraltower.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind
> and/or
> >>> solar power.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Erich Kaiser
> >>> North Central Tower
> >>> er...@northcentraltower.com
> >>> Office: 630-621-4804
> >>> Cell: 630-777-9291
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
>  Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
>  supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power,
> and that
>  may be optimistic.
> 
> 
>  bp
>  
> 
>  On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> 
>  I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
>  �
>  I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering
> of
>  anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
>  �
>  Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2
> meter
>  and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
>  damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
> functional
>  HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
>  �
>  Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk
>  that work with emergency preparedness.�
>  �
>  I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
>  Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
> 
> 
> >>>
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Zach Underwood]

I guess no more problems with 5 GHz interference.

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)

http://ZachUnderwood.me

advance-networking.com



On Sep 24, 2017 7:42 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

Check out the pictures of what's remaining of the San Juan weather radar.

https://twitter.com/NWSSanJuan

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:
> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut
and
> run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy,
never
> have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
> smartmeters and starbucks
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie
>  wrote:
>>
>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
>> lot of other Caribbean islands.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind
and/or
>>> solar power.
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:

 From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
 Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
 supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and
that
 may be optimistic.


 bp
 

 On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
 �
 I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
 anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
 �
 Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
 and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
 damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
functional
 HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
 �
 Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk
 that work with emergency preparedness.�
 �
 I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
 Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�


>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Josh Reynolds]

Check out the pictures of what's remaining of the San Juan weather radar.

https://twitter.com/NWSSanJuan

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut and
> run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, never
> have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
> smartmeters and starbucks
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie
>  wrote:
>>
>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
>> lot of other Caribbean islands.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
>>> solar power.
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:

 From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
 Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
 supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
 may be optimistic.


 bp
 

 On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
 �
 I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
 anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
 �
 Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
 and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
 damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully 
 functional
 HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
 �
 Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk
 that work with emergency preparedness.�
 �
 I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
 Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�


>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Mitch Koep]

Be careful Craig and good luck

Mitch Koep


On 9/24/2017 4:27 PM, Craig House wrote:
I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general 
cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and 
utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried 
utilities.  Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9 
months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are 
crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not 
just damaged but totally missing.  What is there still is water 
damaged or has fried Ethernet from water infiltration

But power is the major issue in the USVI also

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones > wrote:


With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just 
cut and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become 
wealthy, never have to worry about the statehood thing again. 
Everybody will have smartmeters and starbucks


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie 
> wrote:


Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier
than a lot of other Caribbean islands.


On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser
> wrote:

I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more
wind  and/or solar power.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804 
Cell: 630-777-9291 


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince
 wrote:

From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the
lack thereof. Existing supplies of fuel for generators,
etc. are in extremely short supply. I've been hearing
estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be
optimistic.


bp


On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
�
I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I
am wondering of anyone on here works 20 meters and has
heard from folks in PR?
�
Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability
there, but 2 meter and HF is pretty much going to work
irrespective of any infrastructure damage.�� Here in
Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional
HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
�
Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS
church folk that work with emergency preparedness.�
�
I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to
convey IP.� Could certainly keep slow speed email
going.�

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Craig House]

I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general cleanup 
like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and utilities are 
offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities.  Generators 
are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9 months for power to be restored. 
Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the towers here have 
most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing.  What is there 
still is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water infiltration 
But power is the major issue in the USVI also 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut and 
> run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, never 
> have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have 
> smartmeters and starbucks
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie 
>>  wrote:
>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a lot 
>> of other Caribbean islands.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser  
>>> wrote:
>>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or 
>>> solar power.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
 From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. 
 Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short 
 supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and 
 that may be optimistic.
 
 
 bp
 
 
> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
> �
> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of 
> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
> �
> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter 
> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure 
> damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully 
> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.�� 
> �
> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that 
> work with emergency preparedness.�
> �
> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� 
> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
 
>>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Rory Conaway]

How do you protect them in storms like this?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 11:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a lot of 
other Caribbean islands.

On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
> wrote:
I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or solar 
power.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
> 
wrote:

From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. Existing 
supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. I've been 
hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be optimistic.



bp




On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, 
ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
�
I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of anyone 
on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
�
Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and HF 
is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure damage.�� 
Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional HF, VHF and UHF 
capability.��
�
Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that work 
with emergency preparedness.�
�
I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� Could 
certainly keep slow speed email going.�

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Steve Jones]

With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut and
run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, never
have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
smartmeters and starbucks

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
> lot of other Caribbean islands.
>
>
> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
> wrote:
>
>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
>> solar power.
>>
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower
>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
>> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
>>> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
>>> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
>>> may be optimistic.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
>>> �
>>> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
>>> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
>>> �
>>> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
>>> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
>>> damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
>>> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
>>> �
>>> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk
>>> that work with emergency preparedness.�
>>> �
>>> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
>>> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jason McKemie]

Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a lot
of other Caribbean islands.

On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
wrote:

> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
> solar power.
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> 
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  > wrote:
>
>> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
>> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
>> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
>> may be optimistic.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
>> �
>> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
>> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
>> �
>> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
>> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
>> damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
>> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
>> �
>> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that
>> work with emergency preparedness.�
>> �
>> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
>> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Mathew Howard]

I was thinking about that... if it really is going to be 6 months before
they can get power back online, I wonder if it wouldn't be a good
opportunity to start putting a lot of solar panels up down there.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Erich Kaiser 
wrote:

> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
> solar power.
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
>> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
>> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
>> may be optimistic.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
>> �
>> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
>> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
>> �
>> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
>> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
>> damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
>> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
>> �
>> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that
>> work with emergency preparedness.�
>> �
>> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
>> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Mike Hammett]

I think that's how a lot of government and\or utilities in PR are, sadly. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Bill Prince"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 11:45:31 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino 


PREPA is (from what I've been reading) is in terrible financial shape. They can 
barely afford to have above ground transmission. Below ground is vastly more 
expensive. 

bp
 
On 9/24/2017 9:39 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: 




Most of that would have been damaged or destroyed too. I always wondered why 
they don’t put more cable underground. 

Rory 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:37 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino 


I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind and/or solar 
power. 
















Erich Kaiser 

North Central Tower 

er...@northcentraltower.com 

Office: 630-621-4804 

Cell: 630-777-9291 




On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 

>From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. Existing 
>supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. I've been 
>hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be optimistic. 
bp  

On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: 





I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.� 

� 

I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of anyone 
on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR? 

� 

Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and HF 
is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure damage.�� 
Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional HF, VHF and UHF 
capability.�� 

� 

Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that work 
with emergency preparedness.� 

� 

I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� Could 
certainly keep slow speed email going.� 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Steve Jones]

hopefully good comes of this and the federal dollars that will be flowing
in are used to rebuild infrastructure responsibly and sustainably and not
just patchworked back to semifunctionality
this would be a good time to consider addressing the massive debt there too

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> PREPA is (from what I've been reading) is in terrible financial shape.
> They can barely afford to have above ground transmission. Below ground is
> vastly more expensive.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 9/24/2017 9:39 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>
> Most of that would have been damaged or destroyed too.  I always wondered
> why they don’t put more cable underground.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:37 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
> solar power.
>
>
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
>
> North Central Tower
>
> er...@northcentraltower.com
>
> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
>
> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
> may be optimistic.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
>
> �
>
> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
>
> �
>
> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
> damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
>
> �
>
> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that
> work with emergency preparedness.�
>
> �
>
> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[chuck]

Does FERC not have authority in PR?

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:45 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

PREPA is (from what I've been reading) is in terrible financial shape. They can 
barely afford to have above ground transmission. Below ground is vastly more 
expensive.



bp


On 9/24/2017 9:39 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

  Most of that would have been damaged or destroyed too.  I always wondered why 
they don’t put more cable underground. 

   

  Rory

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser
  Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:37 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

   

  I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or 
solar power.  




   

  Erich Kaiser

  North Central Tower

  er...@northcentraltower.com

  Office: 630-621-4804

  Cell: 630-777-9291

   

   

  On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

  From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. 
Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. 
I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be 
optimistic.

   

bp On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.� 

�

I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of 
anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?

�

Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and 
HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure 
damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional 
HF, VHF and UHF capability.�� 

�

Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that 
work with emergency preparedness.� 

�

I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� 
Could certainly keep slow speed email going.� 

   

   

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Bill Prince]

PREPA is (from what I've been reading) is in terrible financial shape. 
They can barely afford to have above ground transmission. Below ground 
is vastly more expensive.



bp


On 9/24/2017 9:39 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:


Most of that would have been damaged or destroyed too.  I always 
wondered why they don’t put more cable underground.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser
*Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:37 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino

I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind 
 and/or solar power.



Erich Kaiser

North Central Tower

er...@northcentraltower.com 

Office: 630-621-4804

Cell: 630-777-9291

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince > wrote:


From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. 
Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short 
supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and 
that may be optimistic.


bp


On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com  wrote:

I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�

�

I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am
wondering of anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from
folks in PR?

�

Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2
meter and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any
infrastructure damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency
center has fully functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��

�

Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church
folk that work with emergency preparedness.�

�

I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey
IP.� Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[chuck]

Power lines and underground construction are not a good match.  Not only are 
you limited on the voltage due to the dielectric strength of the cable 
insulation but you also have a capacitance introduced that will cause phase 
shifts/power factor issues.  

From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

Most of that would have been damaged or destroyed too.  I always wondered why 
they don’t put more cable underground. 

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or solar 
power.  




 

Erich Kaiser

North Central Tower

er...@northcentraltower.com

Office: 630-621-4804

Cell: 630-777-9291

 

 

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

>From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. Existing 
>supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. I've been 
>hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be optimistic.

 

bp On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.� 

  �

  I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of 
anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?

  �

  Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and 
HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure 
damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional 
HF, VHF and UHF capability.�� 

  �

  Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that 
work with emergency preparedness.� 

  �

  I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� Could 
certainly keep slow speed email going.� 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[chuck]

Especially if you are in an area that gets hurricanes each year.  I realize 
this is arm-chair quarterbacking, but if you have the chance of substantial 
damage and loss of power/water/comms each year, would you not think local 
governmental entities would have built up a pretty robust ability to respond to 
situations like this?

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or solar 
power.   


Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

  From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. 
Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. 
I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be 
optimistic.



bp


On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.� 
�
I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of 
anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
�
Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and 
HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure 
damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional 
HF, VHF and UHF capability.�� 
�
Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that 
work with emergency preparedness.� 
�
I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� 
Could certainly keep slow speed email going.� 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Rory Conaway]

Most of that would have been damaged or destroyed too.  I always wondered why 
they don’t put more cable underground.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or solar 
power.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
> wrote:

From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. Existing 
supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. I've been 
hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be optimistic.



bp




On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
�
I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of anyone 
on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
�
Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and HF 
is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure damage.�� 
Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional HF, VHF and UHF 
capability.��
�
Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that work 
with emergency preparedness.�
�
I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� Could 
certainly keep slow speed email going.�

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Erich Kaiser]

I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
solar power.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
> may be optimistic.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
> �
> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
> �
> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
> damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
> �
> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that
> work with emergency preparedness.�
> �
> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[chuck]

I would think it would be somewhat sunny at some of the times after a storm 
like this.  One solar panel could run a nice transceiver during sunlight and if 
you were not doing tons of transmitting it could charge a batt.  If you are 
going to invest in a rig and antenna, why not a solar panel?

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

>From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. Existing 
>supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. I've been 
>hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be optimistic.



bp


On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.� 
  �
  I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of 
anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
  �
  Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and 
HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure 
damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional 
HF, VHF and UHF capability.�� 
  �
  Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that 
work with emergency preparedness.� 
  �
  I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� Could 
certainly keep slow speed email going.� 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Bill Prince]

From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. 
Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short 
supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and 
that may be optimistic.



bp


On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.
I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of 
anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 
meter and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any 
infrastructure damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has 
fully functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.
Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk 
that work with emergency preparedness.
I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� 
Could certainly keep slow speed email going.

[AFMUG] Gino

[chuck]

I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.  

I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.  I am wondering of anyone on 
here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?

Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and HF 
is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure damage.   Here 
in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional HF, VHF and UHF 
capability.   

Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that work 
with emergency preparedness.  

I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.  Could 
certainly keep slow speed email going.  

Re: [AFMUG] Maria Report

[Josh Luthman]

What do you need, Gino?  Climbers?  Radios?  A beer?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:

> I don’t have any guys I can send but I could potentially make a trip this
> week or next.   I can still climb and point things in the right direction
> :-)
>
> I have a extensive stock of older Cambium gear (FSK/430)), and spares for
> PTP800, 820 and have access to a large stock of larger Andrew antennas.
> Once you have an idea on timeline let us know what you need.
>
> Mark
>
> On Sep 22, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> I wish I wasn't so busy with work.. I would like to work on some of those
> towers...
>
> On Sep 22, 2017 8:22 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> I have antennas, radios, and POEs I can send you Gino...I will take
>> inventory this weekend and have it handy.
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2017 8:13 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes - let us know what you need.
>>>
>>> On Sep 22, 2017 7:51 PM, "Jason McKemie" >> com> wrote:
>>>
 Gino -

 Let us know when things get to the point where you can take some help.
 I may be able lend a hand for a few days...

 On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gino A. Villarini 
 wrote:

> Guys, we are ok, network hurt pretty bad… will need help
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> 
>


>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5

[Josh Luthman]

Rolling 3.2.2 still.  I've got known issues in 3.4 and 3.5 that doesn't
make it worth it.

I would really like to have my downlink% OID that came with 3.3 or
3.4...but not at the cost of the bugs.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> I guess I over estimated a bit, looks like we've only got a hundred or so
> on 3.5. I think we have somewhere around a thousand customers on ePMP.
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2017 1:14 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>
>> How big is your network?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:38 AM
>> *To:* af 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 3.5
>>
>>
>>
>> I've got 3.5 running on probably about half our stuff now. I haven't
>> noticed any major issues.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2017 8:15 AM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>>
>> I see a few problems on the Cambium form on 3.5.   They may be isolated
>> incidences but enough to have caution. Has anybody rolled it out to a large
>> number of APs and SMs?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>> 
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>> 
>>
>> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Maria Report

[Mark Radabaugh]

I don’t have any guys I can send but I could potentially make a trip this week 
or next.   I can still climb and point things in the right direction :-)

I have a extensive stock of older Cambium gear (FSK/430)), and spares for 
PTP800, 820 and have access to a large stock of larger Andrew antennas.  Once 
you have an idea on timeline let us know what you need.

Mark

> On Sep 22, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Jaime Solorza  wrote:
> 
> I wish I wasn't so busy with work.. I would like to work on some of those 
> towers...
> 
> On Sep 22, 2017 8:22 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  > wrote:
> I have antennas, radios, and POEs I can send you Gino...I will take inventory 
> this weekend and have it handy.  
> 
> On Sep 22, 2017 8:13 PM, "Mathew Howard"  > wrote:
> Yes - let us know what you need. 
> 
> On Sep 22, 2017 7:51 PM, "Jason McKemie"  > wrote:
> Gino -
> 
> Let us know when things get to the point where you can take some help.  I may 
> be able lend a hand for a few days...
> 
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gino A. Villarini  > wrote:
> Guys, we are ok, network hurt pretty bad… will need help 
> 
>  
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
> 
> 
> 
>