Re: [AFMUG] Aruba Captive Portal

2018-04-23 Thread Craig Schmaderer 
The aruba instant aps have a built in captive portal with a few security 
options.  It is pretty simple to setup but you will have to install your own 
cert you don't want the security error.  They used to provide an aruba cert but 
they revoked it because it got hacked and I don't know if they ever released a 
newer version of it.


From: Af  on behalf of can...@believewireless.net 

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 8:12:32 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Aruba Captive Portal

Has anyone setup a captive portal for an Aruba network? How easy and pricey is 
it to do?

Not asking about 3rd party solutions, just if it is built into their 
controllers and how easy it
is to implement.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium legacy case

2018-04-23 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
No, and there is no EOL date that I’m aware of.

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

> On Apr 23, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
> 
> Has manufacturing stopped of the old 450-5ghz SM's ?
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 5:16 PM, George Skorup  
>> wrote:
>> The new 5GHz PMP450b SMs are shipping now. The 450b mid-gain is pretty much 
>> identical to the ePMP Force180. And 450b high-gain is an integrated dish 
>> like the Force200. But that's just 5GHz for now. There's still the 2.4 450 
>> which is the classic SM case. And the 3GHz weird-o half n half case. There's 
>> still lots of stock of regular 5GHz 450 SMs too.
>> 
>>> On 4/10/2018 2:21 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>> As far as I know, cambium is still shipping radios with that mount.  The 
>>> very latest radios are a different style, but I'm not sure they're even 
>>> available in some bands yet.  Someone who buys this stuff will need to 
>>> confirm.
>>> 
>>> Also, keep in mind that customers like to hold onto gear until it is well 
>>> beyond obsolete.   A not insignificant chunk of my business comes from 
>>> products which are being used to power and/or otherwise support 
>>> what I would consider ancient radios.   As a result I still do backwards 
>>> testing and occasionally end up digging an old radio out of the archives to 
>>> do interoperability testing (see the 320 thread I started a few days ago).  
>>>
>>> 
>>> I know that the WISP I am involved with still has a healthy number of 
>>> radios in that form factor in place.   I'm not sure if they're deploying 
>>> any more or not.
>>> 
 On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
 I am pretty sure I was told or heard that Cambium is transitioning totally 
 away from the old canopy style case. 
  
 That is why I have stopped to building my little plastic clip basic mount. 
  
 I sent out EOL to distributors but I continue to get orders. 
 That form factor is a dead end, right?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>>>
>>> 
>> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium legacy case

2018-04-23 Thread Kurt Fankhauser 
Has manufacturing stopped of the old 450-5ghz SM's ?

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 5:16 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> The new 5GHz PMP450b SMs are shipping now. The 450b mid-gain is pretty
> much identical to the ePMP Force180. And 450b high-gain is an integrated
> dish like the Force200. But that's just 5GHz for now. There's still the 2.4
> 450 which is the classic SM case. And the 3GHz weird-o half n half case.
> There's still lots of stock of regular 5GHz 450 SMs too.
>
> On 4/10/2018 2:21 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>
> As far as I know, cambium is still shipping radios with that mount.  The
> very latest radios are a different style, but I'm not sure they're even
> available in some bands yet.  Someone who buys this stuff will need to
> confirm.
>
> Also, keep in mind that customers like to hold onto gear until it is well
> beyond obsolete.   A not insignificant chunk of my business comes from
> products which are being used to power and/or otherwise support what I
> would consider ancient radios.   As a result I still do backwards testing
> and occasionally end up digging an old radio out of the archives to do
> interoperability testing (see the 320 thread I started a few days ago).
>
>
> I know that the WISP I am involved with still has a healthy number of
> radios in that form factor in place.   I'm not sure if they're deploying
> any more or not.
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I am pretty sure I was told or heard that Cambium is transitioning
>> totally away from the old canopy style case.
>>
>> That is why I have stopped to building my little plastic clip basic
>> mount.
>>
>> I sent out EOL to distributors but I continue to get orders.
>> That form factor is a dead end, right?
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> 
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Mark Radabaugh 
From my office wall.   It’s amazing how few people actually notice what it says:



> On Apr 23, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Jay Weekley  wrote:
> 
> "Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the 
> unhappy people."
> 
> https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/demotivation 
> 
> 
> Adam Moffett wrote:
>> "Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"
>> 
>> 
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Steve Jones" > >
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
>> 
>>> The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The beatings will 
>>> continue until morale improves"
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett >> > wrote:
>>> That's a great idea.
>>> 
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Ben Royer" >
>>> To: af@afmug.com 
>>> Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design
>>> 
 Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my climbers.  
 Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale patches they can earn.
  
 Thank you,
 Ben Royer, Operations Manager
 Royell Communications, Inc.
 217-965-3699 www.royell.net 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Virus-free. www.avg.com 
>> 
>>  
> -- 
> Jay Weekley 
> Cyber Broadband 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Bill Prince 

She might be saving it for an appropriate time...


bp


On 4/23/2018 1:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I would have felt the pain by now...
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 2:07 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Do you know for sure that she doesn't?

bp


On 4/23/2018 12:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

So glad my wife does not read this list...
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 1:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
Well someone has to do the sewing
(will I ever learn NOT to say these things...)
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 1:51 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
Yes.  The more the better.
-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 3:39:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

We gonna let girls join?
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 1:37 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
Daisy Petals
https://www.girlscouts.org/content/dam/girlscouts-gsusa/forms-and-documents/our-program/insignia-list/what_daisies_do.pdf
Not a flower though. A base level training patch could be a shield 
shape (or whatever) and you add specific skills onto the shield.  
Trainers or supervisors get a chevron.

Now it's Fiber Scouts of America.
-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 2:34:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
Have you thought of stripes?  If you have too many categories 
chevron stripes will help conserve space.

*From:* Ben Royer
*Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 12:27 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
Haha, Thanks guys, yeah I’m planning on expanding on the patches 
more, something for like safe driver, or years of service, or other 
things.  I could see some pretty funny demoralizing patches 
too.. World’s Okayest Technician lol.

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net 
*From:* Jay Weekley
*Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 10:53 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
"Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all 
of the unhappy people."


https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/demotivation

Adam Moffett wrote:

"Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"
-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The 
beatings will continue until morale improves"
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett 
 wrote:


That's a great idea.
-- Original Message --
From: "Ben Royer" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my
climbers. Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale
patches they can earn.
Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net






 
	Virus-free. www.avg.com 
 





--
*Jay Weekley*
*Cyber Broadband
*

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Chuck McCown 
I would have felt the pain by now...

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 2:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Do you know for sure that she doesn't?



bp


On 4/23/2018 12:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  So glad my wife does not read this list...

  From: Chuck McCown 
  Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:54 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  Well someone has to do the sewing



  (will I ever learn NOT to say these things...)

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:51 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  Yes.  The more the better.


  -- Original Message --
  From: "Chuck McCown" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 4/23/2018 3:39:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

We gonna let girls join?

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Daisy Petals


https://www.girlscouts.org/content/dam/girlscouts-gsusa/forms-and-documents/our-program/insignia-list/what_daisies_do.pdf

Not a flower though. A base level training patch could be a shield shape 
(or whatever) and you add specific skills onto the shield.  Trainers or 
supervisors get a chevron.

Now it's Fiber Scouts of America.


-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 2:34:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  Have you thought of stripes?  If you have too many categories chevron 
stripes will help conserve space.  

  From: Ben Royer 
  Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 12:27 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  Haha, Thanks guys, yeah I’m planning on expanding on the patches more, 
something for like safe driver, or years of service, or other things.  I could 
see some pretty funny demoralizing patches too.. World’s Okayest 
Technician lol.

  Thank you,
  Ben Royer, Operations Manager
  Royell Communications, Inc.
  217-965-3699 www.royell.net

  From: Jay Weekley 
  Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:53 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  "Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of 
the unhappy people."

  https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/demotivation


  Adam Moffett wrote:

"Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The 
beatings will continue until morale improves"

  On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:

That's a great idea.

-- Original Message --
From: "Ben Royer" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my 
climbers.  Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale patches they can 
earn.

  Thank you,
  Ben Royer, Operations Manager
  Royell Communications, Inc.
  217-965-3699 www.royell.net


 Virus-free. www.avg.com  



  -- 
  Jay Weekley 
  Cyber Broadband

Re: [AFMUG] Flash from the past...the bathroom incident...good grief

2018-04-23 Thread Jaime Solorza 
Yes sir...

Jaime Solorza

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 2:10 PM Rick Harnish 
wrote:

> Always remember to turn off your mike when entering the bathroom!
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> -[image: BaiCells_Tiny3]-
>
> Rick Harnish
>
>
>
> Director of WISP Markets
>
>
>
> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. 
>
> Mobile:  (260) 307-4000
>
>
>
> rick.harn...@na.baicells.com
>
> www.facebook.com/baicells
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 1:15 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Flash from the past...the bathroom incident...good
> grief
>
>
>
> Marlon sent me this picture today...
>
> Jaime Solorza
>

Re: [AFMUG] Flash from the past...the bathroom incident...good grief

2018-04-23 Thread Rick Harnish 
Always remember to turn off your mike when entering the bathroom!

 

Respectfully,

 

--

Rick Harnish

 

Director of WISP Markets

 

Baicells Technologies North America, Inc.  

Mobile:  (260) 307-4000

 

rick.harn...@na.baicells.com  

www.facebook.com/baicells  

 

 

From: Af  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:15 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Flash from the past...the bathroom incident...good grief

 

Marlon sent me this picture today...

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Bill Prince 

Do you know for sure that she doesn't?


bp


On 4/23/2018 12:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

So glad my wife does not read this list...
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 1:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
Well someone has to do the sewing
(will I ever learn NOT to say these things...)
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 1:51 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
Yes.  The more the better.
-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 3:39:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

We gonna let girls join?
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 1:37 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
Daisy Petals
https://www.girlscouts.org/content/dam/girlscouts-gsusa/forms-and-documents/our-program/insignia-list/what_daisies_do.pdf
Not a flower though. A base level training patch could be a shield 
shape (or whatever) and you add specific skills onto the shield.  
Trainers or supervisors get a chevron.

Now it's Fiber Scouts of America.
-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 2:34:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
Have you thought of stripes? If you have too many categories chevron 
stripes will help conserve space.

*From:* Ben Royer
*Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 12:27 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
Haha, Thanks guys, yeah I’m planning on expanding on the patches 
more, something for like safe driver, or years of service, or other 
things.  I could see some pretty funny demoralizing patches 
too.. World’s Okayest Technician lol.

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net 
*From:* Jay Weekley
*Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 10:53 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
"Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all 
of the unhappy people."


https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/demotivation

Adam Moffett wrote:

"Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"
-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The 
beatings will continue until morale improves"
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett 
 wrote:


That's a great idea.
-- Original Message --
From: "Ben Royer" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my
climbers. Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale
patches they can earn.
Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net






 
	Virus-free. www.avg.com 
 





--
*Jay Weekley*
*Cyber Broadband
*

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Steve Jones 
oh my!

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Well someone has to do the sewing
>
>
>
> (will I ever learn NOT to say these things...)
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 1:51 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
>
> Yes.  The more the better.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Chuck McCown" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 4/23/2018 3:39:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
>
>
> We gonna let girls join?
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 1:37 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
>
> Daisy Petals
>
> https://www.girlscouts.org/content/dam/girlscouts-gsusa/
> forms-and-documents/our-program/insignia-list/what_daisies_do.pdf
>
> Not a flower though. A base level training patch could be a shield shape
> (or whatever) and you add specific skills onto the shield.  Trainers or
> supervisors get a chevron.
>
> Now it's Fiber Scouts of America.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Chuck McCown" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 4/23/2018 2:34:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
>
>
> Have you thought of stripes?  If you have too many categories chevron
> stripes will help conserve space.
>
> *From:* Ben Royer
> *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 12:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
>
> Haha, Thanks guys, yeah I’m planning on expanding on the patches more,
> something for like safe driver, or years of service, or other things.  I
> could see some pretty funny demoralizing patches too.. World’s Okayest
> Technician lol.
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>
> *From:* Jay Weekley
> *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 10:53 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
>
> "Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of
> the unhappy people."
>
> https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/demotivation
> 
>
> Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> "Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Steve Jones" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
>
>
> The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The beatings
> will continue until morale improves"
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett 
> wrote:
>
>> That's a great idea.
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Ben Royer" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design
>>
>>
>> Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my climbers.
>> Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale patches they can earn.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
>> Royell Communications, Inc.
>> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>> 
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 
>  Virus-free.
> www.avg.com
> 
>
>
> --
> *Jay Weekley*
>
> *Cyber Broadband *
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Chuck McCown 
So glad my wife does not read this list...

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Well someone has to do the sewing



(will I ever learn NOT to say these things...)

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Yes.  The more the better.


-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 3:39:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  We gonna let girls join?

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:37 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  Daisy Petals

  
https://www.girlscouts.org/content/dam/girlscouts-gsusa/forms-and-documents/our-program/insignia-list/what_daisies_do.pdf

  Not a flower though. A base level training patch could be a shield shape (or 
whatever) and you add specific skills onto the shield.  Trainers or supervisors 
get a chevron.

  Now it's Fiber Scouts of America.


  -- Original Message --
  From: "Chuck McCown" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 4/23/2018 2:34:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Have you thought of stripes?  If you have too many categories chevron 
stripes will help conserve space.  

From: Ben Royer 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 12:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Haha, Thanks guys, yeah I’m planning on expanding on the patches more, 
something for like safe driver, or years of service, or other things.  I could 
see some pretty funny demoralizing patches too.. World’s Okayest 
Technician lol.

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

From: Jay Weekley 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

"Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the 
unhappy people."

https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/demotivation


Adam Moffett wrote:

  "Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"


  -- Original Message --
  From: "Steve Jones" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The beatings 
will continue until morale improves"

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:

  That's a great idea.

  -- Original Message --
  From: "Ben Royer" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my 
climbers.  Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale patches they can 
earn.

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net


   Virus-free. www.avg.com  



-- 
Jay Weekley 
Cyber Broadband

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Chuck McCown 
Well someone has to do the sewing



(will I ever learn NOT to say these things...)

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Yes.  The more the better.


-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 3:39:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  We gonna let girls join?

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:37 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  Daisy Petals

  
https://www.girlscouts.org/content/dam/girlscouts-gsusa/forms-and-documents/our-program/insignia-list/what_daisies_do.pdf

  Not a flower though. A base level training patch could be a shield shape (or 
whatever) and you add specific skills onto the shield.  Trainers or supervisors 
get a chevron.

  Now it's Fiber Scouts of America.


  -- Original Message --
  From: "Chuck McCown" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 4/23/2018 2:34:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Have you thought of stripes?  If you have too many categories chevron 
stripes will help conserve space.  

From: Ben Royer 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 12:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Haha, Thanks guys, yeah I’m planning on expanding on the patches more, 
something for like safe driver, or years of service, or other things.  I could 
see some pretty funny demoralizing patches too.. World’s Okayest 
Technician lol.

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

From: Jay Weekley 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

"Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the 
unhappy people."

https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/demotivation


Adam Moffett wrote:

  "Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"


  -- Original Message --
  From: "Steve Jones" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The beatings 
will continue until morale improves"

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:

  That's a great idea.

  -- Original Message --
  From: "Ben Royer" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my 
climbers.  Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale patches they can 
earn.

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net


   Virus-free. www.avg.com  



-- 
Jay Weekley 
Cyber Broadband

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Adam Moffett 

Yes.  The more the better.


-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 3:39:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design


We gonna let girls join?

From:Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:37 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Daisy Petals

https://www.girlscouts.org/content/dam/girlscouts-gsusa/forms-and-documents/our-program/insignia-list/what_daisies_do.pdf

Not a flower though. A base level training patch could be a shield 
shape (or whatever) and you add specific skills onto the shield.  
Trainers or supervisors get a chevron.


Now it's Fiber Scouts of America.


-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 2:34:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Have you thought of stripes?  If you have too many categories chevron 
stripes will help conserve space.


From:Ben Royer
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 12:27 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Haha, Thanks guys, yeah I’m planning on expanding on the patches more, 
something for like safe driver, or years of service, or other things.  
I could see some pretty funny demoralizing patches too.. World’s 
Okayest Technician lol.


Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net 

From:Jay Weekley
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:53 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

"Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of 
the unhappy people."


https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/demotivation 



Adam Moffett wrote:

"Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The 
beatings will continue until morale improves"


On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:

That's a great idea.

-- Original Message --
From: "Ben Royer" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my 
climbers.  Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale 
patches they can earn.


Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net 





 
Virus-free. www.avg.com 



--
Jay Weekley
Cyber Broadband

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Chuck McCown 
We gonna let girls join?

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Daisy Petals

https://www.girlscouts.org/content/dam/girlscouts-gsusa/forms-and-documents/our-program/insignia-list/what_daisies_do.pdf

Not a flower though. A base level training patch could be a shield shape (or 
whatever) and you add specific skills onto the shield.  Trainers or supervisors 
get a chevron.

Now it's Fiber Scouts of America.


-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 2:34:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  Have you thought of stripes?  If you have too many categories chevron stripes 
will help conserve space.  

  From: Ben Royer 
  Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 12:27 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  Haha, Thanks guys, yeah I’m planning on expanding on the patches more, 
something for like safe driver, or years of service, or other things.  I could 
see some pretty funny demoralizing patches too.. World’s Okayest 
Technician lol.

  Thank you,
  Ben Royer, Operations Manager
  Royell Communications, Inc.
  217-965-3699 www.royell.net

  From: Jay Weekley 
  Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:53 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  "Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the 
unhappy people."

  https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/demotivation


  Adam Moffett wrote:

"Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The beatings 
will continue until morale improves"

  On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:

That's a great idea.

-- Original Message --
From: "Ben Royer" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design

  Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my 
climbers.  Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale patches they can 
earn.

  Thank you,
  Ben Royer, Operations Manager
  Royell Communications, Inc.
  217-965-3699 www.royell.net


 Virus-free. www.avg.com  



  -- 
  Jay Weekley 
  Cyber Broadband

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Adam Moffett 

Daisy Petals

https://www.girlscouts.org/content/dam/girlscouts-gsusa/forms-and-documents/our-program/insignia-list/what_daisies_do.pdf

Not a flower though. A base level training patch could be a shield shape 
(or whatever) and you add specific skills onto the shield.  Trainers or 
supervisors get a chevron.


Now it's Fiber Scouts of America.


-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 2:34:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Have you thought of stripes?  If you have too many categories chevron 
stripes will help conserve space.


From:Ben Royer
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 12:27 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Haha, Thanks guys, yeah I’m planning on expanding on the patches more, 
something for like safe driver, or years of service, or other things.  
I could see some pretty funny demoralizing patches too.. World’s 
Okayest Technician lol.


Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

From:Jay Weekley
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:53 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

"Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of 
the unhappy people."


https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/demotivation 



Adam Moffett wrote:

"Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The 
beatings will continue until morale improves"


On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:

That's a great idea.

-- Original Message --
From: "Ben Royer" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my 
climbers.  Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale 
patches they can earn.


Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net 





 
Virus-free. www.avg.com 



--
Jay Weekley
Cyber Broadband

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Chuck McCown 
Have you thought of stripes?  If you have too many categories chevron stripes 
will help conserve space.  

From: Ben Royer 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 12:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Haha, Thanks guys, yeah I’m planning on expanding on the patches more, 
something for like safe driver, or years of service, or other things.  I could 
see some pretty funny demoralizing patches too.. World’s Okayest 
Technician lol.

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

From: Jay Weekley 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

"Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the 
unhappy people."

https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/demotivation


Adam Moffett wrote:

  "Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"


  -- Original Message --
  From: "Steve Jones" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The beatings will 
continue until morale improves"

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

  That's a great idea.

  -- Original Message --
  From: "Ben Royer" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my climbers.  
Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale patches they can earn.

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net


   Virus-free. www.avg.com  



-- 
Jay Weekley 
Cyber Broadband

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Ben Royer 
Haha, Thanks guys, yeah I’m planning on expanding on the patches more, 
something for like safe driver, or years of service, or other things.  I could 
see some pretty funny demoralizing patches too.. World’s Okayest 
Technician lol.

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

From: Jay Weekley 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

"Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the 
unhappy people."

https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/demotivation


Adam Moffett wrote:

  "Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"


  -- Original Message --
  From: "Steve Jones" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The beatings will 
continue until morale improves"

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

  That's a great idea.

  -- Original Message --
  From: "Ben Royer" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my climbers.  
Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale patches they can earn.

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net


   Virus-free. www.avg.com  



-- 
Jay Weekley 
Cyber Broadband

Re: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg

2018-04-23 Thread Chuck McCown 
Thanks, I think I will stick to the 11 for now.  

From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 8:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg

13.5 kinks easier too, especially 1". Even tho ote stiffer it's easier to get 
sdr11 placed and routed into peds/handholds without linking. 

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 9:51 AM Chuck Hogg  wrote:

  The 13.5 tends to squish a little more than 11.  If it sits outside long 
enough, it is a bit more brittle too.  We've had some minor issues where 
plowing in rocky areas and the rocks can sometimes squish it.

  Regards,
  Chuck

  On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 12:18 PM,  wrote:

You get 5000 feet on 7 foot reels too.  It is lighter.  Lots of good 
reasons to use it.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 10:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg

I don't know jack about the duct, but 2c per foot?  $2,000 over 20 miles.

If you still need the thicker wall in some circumstances, then you might 
lose two grand in the cost of stocking and shipping and handling two rolls of 
tube vs one roll of tube.  

The first time somebody brings the wrong roll to a job site and has to go 
back, then you've lost more than two grand of productivity.  Seems like it 
couldn't be worth it to me.  But I don't know jack.

-Adam



-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/20/2018 11:11:36 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg

  I am considering using some SDR 13.5 duct where I have always used SDR11 
before.

  The DR stands for diameter ratio.  Ratio between wall thickness and outer 
diameter (I think).  Higher numbers mean thinner wall thickness.

  Others use the 13.5 unless they get into rocky areas.  I am a bit gunshy 
as the cost is only about 2 cents per foot different.  
  Anyone here have any experiences they can relate?

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

2018-04-23 Thread Layne Sisk 
I will have Dallin reach out to you to give you some details and a demo account 
if you would like it.

Layne Sisk
ServerPlus
801.426.8283, ext 102
[New logo xl]
[http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]
[http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]
[http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]
[Utah 100]   [fast50-01] [Inc 5000]

From: Af  On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 3:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

Any screenshots ?

From: Af > on behalf of 
"Layne com>" >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:38 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

We don’t really market it, although we have been thinking we should.  It is our 
own product written inhouse and we think it is pretty cool 

Layne Sisk
ServerPlus
801.426.8283, ext 102
[New logo xl]
[http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]
[http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]
[http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]
[Utah 100]   [fast50-01] [Inc 5000]

From: Af > On Behalf Of Gino 
A. Villarini
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 5:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

Website?

From: Af > on behalf of 
"Layne com>" >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Friday, April 20, 2018 at 7:18 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

A couple of the features that I think make it appealing:


  1.  Decision Tree process
  2.  Built in tools like the Router emulators
  3.  The ability to have a customer text in a picture and have it attached to 
the ticket
  4.  Ability to assign to not only individuals but also to groups
  5.  The integration with Asterisk to have call recordings attached to tickets
  6.  Automatic assignment of escalations to the appropriate department based 
on the issue.

Powercode and Sonar’s are great, but IssueTracker just has things built very 
specifically for customer service.  PC and Sonar have been very helpful in 
building integrations so it is basically seamless between IssueTracker or 
either of those systems.

Layne Sisk
ServerPlus
801.426.8283, ext 102
[New logo xl]
[http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]
[http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]
[http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]
[Utah 100]   [fast50-01] [Inc 5000]

From: Af > On Behalf Of Adam 
Moffett
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 12:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

Layne,

If it's something you're able to discuss on list, can you summarize what 
advantages IssueTracker would give us over the built in ticketing in Powercode 
or Sonar?

Thanks,
Adam





Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


[cid:image005.png@01D3DAED.28A73F30]



Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


[cid:image005.png@01D3DAED.28A73F30]
-- Original Message --
From: "Layne Sisk" >
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Sent: 4/19/2018 1:39:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

Hit me up if you want some info on IssueTracker.  It is what we used internally 
and we do license it (or give it away free for the companies we support).  It 
has full integration with Zendesk, Powercode, Sonar, UBO, and has pretty good 
integration available with SalesForce and Sugar CRM.

Layne Sisk
ServerPlus
801.426.8283, ext 102
[New logo xl]
[http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]
[http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]
[http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]
[Utah 100]   [fast50-01] [Inc 5000]

From: Af > On Behalf Of Tim 
Reichhart
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

The company I used to work for had custom ticketing that would

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Jay Weekley 

  
  
"Sometimes the best solution to morale
  problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people."

https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/demotivation

Adam Moffett wrote:


  
  "Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"
  
  
  
  
  -- Original Message --
  From: "Steve Jones" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design
  
  
  

  The only morale boosting patch you need is one
that says "The beatings will continue until morale improves"
  
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM,
  Adam Moffett 
  wrote:
  

  That's a great idea.
  


-- Original Message --
From: "Ben Royer" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design



  

  
Just thought I’d share a little design
  I came up with for my climbers.  Found a
  place to make them fairly cheap for morale
  patches they can earn.
 
Thank
  you,
  Ben Royer, Operations Manager
  Royell Communications, Inc.
  217-965-3699 www.royell.net
  

  

  
  


  

  
  

  

  
  Virus-free. www.avg.com 

  

 


-- 
  Jay Weekley
  
  Cyber Broadband

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Adam Moffett 

"Certified Morale Improvement Specialist"


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 11:28:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The beatings 
will continue until morale improves"


On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:

That's a great idea.

-- Original Message --
From: "Ben Royer" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my 
climbers.  Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale patches 
they can earn.


Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Steve Jones 
The only morale boosting patch you need is one that says "The beatings will
continue until morale improves"

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> That's a great idea.
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Ben Royer" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design
>
> Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my climbers.
> Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale patches they can earn.
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Adam Moffett 

That's a great idea.

-- Original Message --
From: "Ben Royer" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/23/2018 10:58:10 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Patch Design

Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for my climbers.  
Found a place to make them fairly cheap for morale patches they can 
earn.


Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

Re: [AFMUG] Patch Design

2018-04-23 Thread Jay Weekley 

  
  
Those are very creative.  I like the skull wearing a hard hat. 

Ben Royer wrote:


  

  Just thought I’d share a little design I came up with for
my climbers.  Found a place to make them fairly cheap for
morale patches they can earn.
   
  Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

  
  

  

  
  Virus-free. www.avg.com 

  

 


-- 
  Jay Weekley
  
  Cyber Broadband

Re: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg

2018-04-23 Thread Chris Fabien 
13.5 kinks easier too, especially 1". Even tho ote stiffer it's easier to
get sdr11 placed and routed into peds/handholds without linking.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 9:51 AM Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> The 13.5 tends to squish a little more than 11.  If it sits outside long
> enough, it is a bit more brittle too.  We've had some minor issues where
> plowing in rocky areas and the rocks can sometimes squish it.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 12:18 PM,  wrote:
>
>> You get 5000 feet on 7 foot reels too.  It is lighter.  Lots of good
>> reasons to use it.
>>
>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 20, 2018 10:07 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg
>>
>> I don't know jack about the duct, but 2c per foot?  $2,000 over 20 miles.
>>
>> If you still need the thicker wall in some circumstances, then you might
>> lose two grand in the cost of stocking and shipping and handling two rolls
>> of tube vs one roll of tube.
>>
>> The first time somebody brings the wrong roll to a job site and has to go
>> back, then you've lost more than two grand of productivity.  Seems like it
>> couldn't be worth it to me.  But I don't know jack.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 4/20/2018 11:11:36 AM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg
>>
>>
>> I am considering using some SDR 13.5 duct where I have always used SDR11
>> before.
>>
>> The DR stands for diameter ratio.  Ratio between wall thickness and outer
>> diameter (I think).  Higher numbers mean thinner wall thickness.
>>
>> Others use the 13.5 unless they get into rocky areas.  I am a bit gunshy
>> as the cost is only about 2 cents per foot different.
>> Anyone here have any experiences they can relate?
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg

2018-04-23 Thread Chuck Hogg 
The 13.5 tends to squish a little more than 11.  If it sits outside long
enough, it is a bit more brittle too.  We've had some minor issues where
plowing in rocky areas and the rocks can sometimes squish it.

Regards,
Chuck

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 12:18 PM,  wrote:

> You get 5000 feet on 7 foot reels too.  It is lighter.  Lots of good
> reasons to use it.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Friday, April 20, 2018 10:07 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg
>
> I don't know jack about the duct, but 2c per foot?  $2,000 over 20 miles.
>
> If you still need the thicker wall in some circumstances, then you might
> lose two grand in the cost of stocking and shipping and handling two rolls
> of tube vs one roll of tube.
>
> The first time somebody brings the wrong roll to a job site and has to go
> back, then you've lost more than two grand of productivity.  Seems like it
> couldn't be worth it to me.  But I don't know jack.
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 4/20/2018 11:11:36 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg
>
>
> I am considering using some SDR 13.5 duct where I have always used SDR11
> before.
>
> The DR stands for diameter ratio.  Ratio between wall thickness and outer
> diameter (I think).  Higher numbers mean thinner wall thickness.
>
> Others use the 13.5 unless they get into rocky areas.  I am a bit gunshy
> as the cost is only about 2 cents per foot different.
> Anyone here have any experiences they can relate?
>
>