Verizon's Samsung SCS series 3G and 4G Network Extender is what I was dealing 
with.  We had to run our own GPS antenna from the roof down to the basement to 
get the damn thing to sync properly.

As an aside, I didn't realize the Low E windows were code now, and this is a 
very newly renovated building.  Will keep that in mind!

 
-- Sam Kirsch, Network Tech Support
Plexicomm Internet Solutions 
Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688

sam...@plexicomm.net | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 


-----Original Message-----
From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
Date: 02/09/16 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

cell booster or gps booster?
 

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
 

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Sam Kirsch <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote:
 
Pull out a GPS App on your phone and make sure you can actually read the 
satellites from behind the window (I used 'GPS Test' on Android).  We had to 
install one of these boosters and were troubleshooting why the damn thing 
wasn't working when I noticed that my phone GPS receiver was working in rooms 
where the windows were open and not working in rooms where the windows were 
closed.  Building management didn't even know they'd purchased the windows with 
RF film. 
 
 
 -- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support
Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net
Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 
 
Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 | sam...@plexicomm.net 
 
 
 
 
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/9/2016 9:50:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
 
It might not be just a matter of getting the location.  If they use the 1pps 
clock from GPS to calibrate an oscillator before they start transmitting, then 
it would legitimately take 20-30 minutes.

Telrad BTS's are like that too.  Pisses me off if I ever have to reset the 
power.



On 2/9/2016 12:12 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

For whatever reason, the receivers that they use in some of these don't seem to 
be "modern" at all. They frequently take an excessively long time to get a lock.

On Monday, February 8, 2016, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Modern GPS receivers work surprisingly well, if not very accurately, from 
inside a single floor wood framed house... My oneplus one will pick up 6 
satellites while  standing in a central hallway 15'+ from any window. Should be 
accurate enough to get a location within 75'.
All bets are off if it is a concrete framed apartment building or something 
like that.
I still find it amazing that anything works at -162 RSL. Thanks to tiny channel 
size and very basic modulation. On Feb 8, 2016 6:46 PM, "Bill Prince" 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','part15...@gmail.com');> wrote:
 Canopy NAT seems to break it with regularity. It might also fail if the GPS 
location that it reports is not within a 1/4 mile of where the customer address 
is.

Also requires enough GPS (like near a window) to get a GPS lock.


bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 
On 2/8/2016 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

 
What are the typical reasons for these not to work?� From the user guide it 
appears to use IPSEC, so I assume anything that prevents a VPN?
�
Verizon support told the customer they needed a Class A address.� WTF?� Did 
they maybe mean it can't be a class A address?� Customer uses 10.x.x.x 
addresses internally, behind Cisco ASA firewall (which I don't manage).
�
I do see some udp/500 and udp/4500 packets, I think that means something is 
using UDP for IPSEC NAT traversal?
 

 
 


 
 




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