[AFMUG] 5G`

[chuck]

https://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/wireless/decoding-5g-new-radio

Re: [AFMUG] 5G tests

[Dave]

I dont do social media LOL


On 05/25/2017 03:09 AM, Ken Patrick wrote:

Ericsson + Verizon


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1461927630530653=180665211990241


--

Re: [AFMUG] 5G tests

[Mike Hammett]

This one seemed to stream with better quality: 
https://www.facebook.com/ericsson/videos/1461927630530653/ 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Ken Patrick" <patr...@my9ja.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:09:30 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] 5G tests 


Ericsson + Verizon 




https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1461927630530653=180665211990241 

[AFMUG] 5G tests

[Ken Patrick]

Ericsson + Verizon


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1461927630530653=180665211990241

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Harold Bledsoe]

LOL yes!

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:50 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> What is this “CD” of which you speak?  Is that some sort of physical
> media?  That you would actually pay for?  And not stream from the cloud?
>
>
>
> I’m vaguely remembering something called a Sony Discman.  Track a spinning
> disc with a laser while running or exercising.  Yeah, that’ll work great.
>
>
>
> I’m hearing of a new technology called VINYL that is all the rage with the
> kids, maybe I need to check that out.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I think this is the last CD I bought:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/KIN-KT-Tunstall/dp/B01J3SK1O4
>
> Like most albums, 3-4 good tracks.  So I do see the logic in buying
> individual songs for like $1 each.
>
>
>
> Meanwhile, I’m picturing Chuck listening to Kenny Chesney singing “She
> Thinks My Tractor’s Sexy”.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:43 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Or even worse we'll have to listen to our cd collection from yesteryear.
> What would that look like in the Hohhof household? :-)
>
>
>
> Hal
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:00 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> I got a call today from a customer who had bought a gizmo to extend his
> WiFi to his yard so he could listen to music while mowing the lawn.
>
>
>
> Remember when we could listen to music without the Internet?  Transistor
> radio.  Walkman.  iPod.  Or just load a bunch of songs on your phone.
> Nope.  Everything today needs the Internet and an app.  I assume if “the
> cloud” ever goes down, people will fall to the ground and flop around like
> fish.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:47 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> It would be interesting to know how many others on that tower were using
> data etc.  Not bad though for a hand held device with nlos.  What are your
> ping times?
>
>
>
> *From:* Harold Bledsoe
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:42 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Here's my internet speed:
>
>
>
> [image: speed.png]
>
>
>
> I have 2 choices for internet today - AT 5Mbps/.5Mbps adsl (with random
> 30s outages) OR LTE modem.  You can guess which one I use.
>
>
>
> I'm not sure how much data I use.  It says month to date is almost 200GB.
>
>
>
> I think I'm the only one on the tower.  I pay $150/mo for "unlimited" and
> one day I'll be given the boot I suppose since I doubt this is an
> officially sanctioned plan.
>
>
>
> This is not sustainable for a national operator using licensed bands as a
> business model.  I kinda doubt I'll ever see 5G from a large carrier at my
> house.  It just doesn't make sense.  My next round of fast internet has to
> come from one of you guys.
>
>
>
> Viva el/la WISP!  ;-)
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:19 AM Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
>
>
> Yes the customer might think that its qgig for them… but still the
> experience would be far better that they have now… worst case scenario
> 50megs for them?
>
>
>
> As carries add capacity (via this technologies and more spectrum) , they
> will continue to raise the cap bar.  We might see in the future a cap high
> enough that a big segment of the market will ditch fixed broadband and just
> have mobile.
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
> >
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:12 AM
>
>
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
> Manufacturer/carrier says:  we demonstrated a basestation with gigabit
> aggregate capacity
>
>
>
> Customer hears:  gigabit speed, all for me
>
>
>
> Also articles about watching 8K 3D TV on your phone, ignoring $10 per GB
> data usage charges.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:04 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Not really
>
>
>
>
> https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2017/02/23/sprint-ericsson-to-demo-gigabit-data-speeds-over-td-lte/?utm_source=CommsUpdate_campaign=842ec531cf-CommsUpdate+23+Februa

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Ken Hohhof]

What is this “CD” of which you speak?  Is that some sort of physical media?  
That you would actually pay for?  And not stream from the cloud?

 

I’m vaguely remembering something called a Sony Discman.  Track a spinning disc 
with a laser while running or exercising.  Yeah, that’ll work great.

 

I’m hearing of a new technology called VINYL that is all the rage with the 
kids, maybe I need to check that out.

 

Anyway, I think this is the last CD I bought:

https://www.amazon.com/KIN-KT-Tunstall/dp/B01J3SK1O4

Like most albums, 3-4 good tracks.  So I do see the logic in buying individual 
songs for like $1 each.

 

Meanwhile, I’m picturing Chuck listening to Kenny Chesney singing “She Thinks 
My Tractor’s Sexy”.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

 

Or even worse we'll have to listen to our cd collection from yesteryear. What 
would that look like in the Hohhof household? :-)

 

Hal

 

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:00 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I got a call today from a customer who had bought a gizmo to extend his WiFi to 
his yard so he could listen to music while mowing the lawn.

 

Remember when we could listen to music without the Internet?  Transistor radio. 
 Walkman.  iPod.  Or just load a bunch of songs on your phone.  Nope.  
Everything today needs the Internet and an app.  I assume if “the cloud” ever 
goes down, people will fall to the ground and flop around like fish.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:47 PM


To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

 

It would be interesting to know how many others on that tower were using data 
etc.  Not bad though for a hand held device with nlos.  What are your ping 
times?

 

From: Harold Bledsoe 

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:42 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

 

Here's my internet speed: 

 



 

I have 2 choices for internet today - AT 5Mbps/.5Mbps adsl (with random 30s 
outages) OR LTE modem.  You can guess which one I use.

 

I'm not sure how much data I use.  It says month to date is almost 200GB.

 

I think I'm the only one on the tower.  I pay $150/mo for "unlimited" and one 
day I'll be given the boot I suppose since I doubt this is an officially 
sanctioned plan.

 

This is not sustainable for a national operator using licensed bands as a 
business model.  I kinda doubt I'll ever see 5G from a large carrier at my 
house.  It just doesn't make sense.  My next round of fast internet has to come 
from one of you guys.

 

Viva el/la WISP!  ;-)

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:19 AM Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com 
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote:

Ken, 

 

Yes the customer might think that its qgig for them… but still the experience 
would be far better that they have now… worst case scenario 50megs for them? 

 

As carries add capacity (via this technologies and more spectrum) , they will 
continue to raise the cap bar.  We might see in the future a cap high enough 
that a big segment of the market will ditch fixed broadband and just have 
mobile. 

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of Ken 
Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:12 AM


To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

Manufacturer/carrier says:  we demonstrated a basestation with gigabit 
aggregate capacity

 

Customer hears:  gigabit speed, all for me

 

Also articles about watching 8K 3D TV on your phone, ignoring $10 per GB data 
usage charges.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini


Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

 

Not really

 

https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2017/02/23/sprint-ericsson-to-demo-gigabit-data-speeds-over-td-lte/?utm_source=CommsUpdate
 
<https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2017/02/23/sprint-ericsson-to-demo-gigabit-data-speeds-over-td-lte/?utm_source=CommsUpdate_campaign=842ec531cf-CommsUpdate+23+February+2017_medium=email_term=0_0688983330-842ec531cf-8827113>
 
_campaign=842ec531cf-CommsUpdate+23+February+2017_medium=email_term=0_0688983330-842ec531cf-8827113

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of 
Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
<mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >
Reply-To: "af@afm

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Harold Bledsoe]

This is an LTE modem tethered to a mikrotik by usb so it feeds all the
network and our cord cutter lifestyle. :-)

I'm guessing very few use the tower and zero use it like me.

Ping times are 40-50ms.

Hal

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> It would be interesting to know how many others on that tower were using
> data etc.  Not bad though for a hand held device with nlos.  What are your
> ping times?
>
> *From:* Harold Bledsoe
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:42 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
> Here's my internet speed:
>
> [image: speed.png]
>
> I have 2 choices for internet today - AT 5Mbps/.5Mbps adsl (with random
> 30s outages) OR LTE modem.  You can guess which one I use.
>
> I'm not sure how much data I use.  It says month to date is almost 200GB.
>
> I think I'm the only one on the tower.  I pay $150/mo for "unlimited" and
> one day I'll be given the boot I suppose since I doubt this is an
> officially sanctioned plan.
>
> This is not sustainable for a national operator using licensed bands as a
> business model.  I kinda doubt I'll ever see 5G from a large carrier at my
> house.  It just doesn't make sense.  My next round of fast internet has to
> come from one of you guys.
>
> Viva el/la WISP!  ;-)
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:19 AM Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> Yes the customer might think that its qgig for them… but still the
> experience would be far better that they have now… worst case scenario
> 50megs for them?
>
> As carries add capacity (via this technologies and more spectrum) , they
> will continue to raise the cap bar.  We might see in the future a cap high
> enough that a big segment of the market will ditch fixed broadband and just
> have mobile.
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:12 AM
>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
> Manufacturer/carrier says:  we demonstrated a basestation with gigabit
> aggregate capacity
>
>
>
> Customer hears:  gigabit speed, all for me
>
>
>
> Also articles about watching 8K 3D TV on your phone, ignoring $10 per GB
> data usage charges.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:04 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Not really
>
>
>
>
> https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2017/02/23/sprint-ericsson-to-demo-gigabit-data-speeds-over-td-lte/?utm_source=CommsUpdate_campaign=842ec531cf-CommsUpdate+23+February+2017_medium=email_term=0_0688983330-842ec531cf-8827113
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:30 AM
>
>
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> In a lab with unlimited spectrum maybe. It will be a fraction of this in
> all reality. They could get closer with millimeter wave, but that's a
> different animal entirely.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Check this out
>
>
> http://www.fiercewireless.com/special-report/gigabit-keeps-lte-fast-lane?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWlRrMFkySTJObVU0TkRSbCIsInQiOiJCRytrXC9IdU92c3NISUVUOVBIOGJaMXNDZnN1aklXUUZ1VXJXQmFYS0NzdU1kdmhVWTFBSFIwNDRcL0MzRERkNTlVSEJEUE9oM3RuVkttWFJRanE5ZUV2SHg3cFhPdERtZllVTVlwb3E4YlJkRDFtQ1ZoZHhIZzMyRTduRFR0V1IzIn0%3D
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> [image: image003.png]
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]
>
> On Feb 22, 2017 7:53 AM, "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> wrote:
>
> 5G. 5th generation? 5 GHz? 5 Gigawatts? This term is much more in the
> ether than something like LTE. The cell companies hyped up the marketing to
> the point where it lost the original meaning.
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>
> I think its a marketing play with hyped terms that not necessary follow
> what 5G really menas and its deceptive.
>
>
>
> Might as well call your service LTE… i

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Jason McKemie]

The way their usage works - mobile devices, often indoors - this will only
help in more densely populated areas, and at 5GHz you're going to have to
be pretty close to that AP either way. Admittedly, I always think in terms
of rural areas, where I can't see how this is going to have much effect. I
still can't even get a reliable cell signal in some subdivisions in which I
offer service.

On Thursday, February 23, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

> Theres a lot of 5 ghz so the can do CA with licensed and unlicensed
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on behalf of
> Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');>>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:30 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
> I think the gigabit figure is a bit misleading is all.
> It says they are testing this with 60MHz of 2.5GHz spectrum. I'd have to
> look again, but there aren't a lot of carriers with a 60MHz nationwide
> footprint. Even at that, it will be split amongst all the users of the
> band.
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','g...@aeronetpr.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Not really
>>
>> https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/
>> 2017/02/23/sprint-ericsson-to-demo-gigabit-data-speeds-over-
>> td-lte/?utm_source=CommsUpdate_campaign=842ec531cf-
>> CommsUpdate+23+February+2017_medium=email_term=0_
>> 0688983330-842ec531cf-8827113
>>
>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:30 AM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>
>> In a lab with unlimited spectrum maybe. It will be a fraction of this in
>> all reality. They could get closer with millimeter wave, but that's a
>> different animal entirely.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Check this out
>>> http://www.fiercewireless.com/special-report/gigabit-keeps-l
>>> te-fast-lane?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWlRrMFkySTJObVU0TkRSbCIsInQiOiJ
>>> CRytrXC9IdU92c3NISUVUOVBIOGJaMXNDZnN1aklXUUZ1VXJXQmFYS0NzdU1
>>> kdmhVWTFBSFIwNDRcL0MzRERkNTlVSEJEUE9oM3RuVkttWFJRanE5ZUV2SHg
>>> 3cFhPdERtZllVTVlwb3E4YlJkRDFtQ1ZoZHhIZzMyRTduRFR0V1IzIn0%3D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2017 7:53 AM, "Jason McKemie" <j.mckemie@veloxinetbroadband.
>>> com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 5G. 5th generation? 5 GHz? 5 Gigawatts? This term is much more in the
>>>> ether than something like LTE. The cell companies hyped up the marketing to
>>>> the point where it lost the original meaning.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think its a marketing play with hyped terms that
>>>>> not necessary follow what 5G really menas and its deceptive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Might as well call your service LTE… it provides broadband wirelessly
>>>>> …
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie <
>>>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM
>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see anything wrong with Mimosa calling their stuff 5G. They
>>>>> should have gone ahead and called it 6G, it's effectively faster than the
>>>>> cell companies' version of 

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Gino Villarini]

Theres a lot of 5 ghz so the can do CA with licensed and unlicensed

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Jason 
McKemie 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com<mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:30 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

I think the gigabit figure is a bit misleading is all.
It says they are testing this with 60MHz of 2.5GHz spectrum. I'd have to look 
again, but there aren't a lot of carriers with a 60MHz nationwide footprint. 
Even at that, it will be split amongst all the users of the band.

On Thursday, February 23, 2017, Gino Villarini 
<g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
Not really

https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2017/02/23/sprint-ericsson-to-demo-gigabit-data-speeds-over-td-lte/?utm_source=CommsUpdate_campaign=842ec531cf-CommsUpdate+23+February+2017_medium=email_term=0_0688983330-842ec531cf-8827113

From: Af 
<af-boun...@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on 
behalf of Jason McKemie 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" 
<af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:30 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" 
<af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

In a lab with unlimited spectrum maybe. It will be a fraction of this in all 
reality. They could get closer with millimeter wave, but that's a different 
animal entirely.

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com');>>
 wrote:
Check this out
http://www.fiercewireless.com/special-report/gigabit-keeps-lte-fast-lane?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWlRrMFkySTJObVU0TkRSbCIsInQiOiJCRytrXC9IdU92c3NISUVUOVBIOGJaMXNDZnN1aklXUUZ1VXJXQmFYS0NzdU1kdmhVWTFBSFIwNDRcL0MzRERkNTlVSEJEUE9oM3RuVkttWFJRanE5ZUV2SHg3cFhPdERtZllVTVlwb3E4YlJkRDFtQ1ZoZHhIZzMyRTduRFR0V1IzIn0%3D




Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On Feb 22, 2017 7:53 AM, "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> 
wrote:
5G. 5th generation? 5 GHz? 5 Gigawatts? This term is much more in the ether 
than something like LTE. The cell companies hyped up the marketing to the point 
where it lost the original meaning.

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
I think its a marketing play with hyped terms that not necessary follow what 5G 
really menas and its deceptive.

Might as well call your service LTE… it provides broadband wirelessly…

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

I don't see anything wrong with Mimosa calling their stuff 5G. They should have 
gone ahead and called it 6G, it's effectively faster than the cell companies' 
version of 5G...

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
Yeah, no problem with that, but how do you call that 5G?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

Gino, the GPS software does work.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G


That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I have seen 
in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had their fill .






Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean, despite 
spending a 

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Jason McKemie]

I think the gigabit figure is a bit misleading is all.
It says they are testing this with 60MHz of 2.5GHz spectrum. I'd have to
look again, but there aren't a lot of carriers with a 60MHz nationwide
footprint. Even at that, it will be split amongst all the users of the
band.

On Thursday, February 23, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

> Not really
>
> https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/
> 2017/02/23/sprint-ericsson-to-demo-gigabit-data-speeds-over-
> td-lte/?utm_source=CommsUpdate_campaign=842ec531cf-CommsUpdate+23+
> February+2017_medium=email_term=0_0688983330-842ec531cf-8827113
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on behalf of
> Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');>>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:30 AM
> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
> In a lab with unlimited spectrum maybe. It will be a fraction of this in
> all reality. They could get closer with millimeter wave, but that's a
> different animal entirely.
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Check this out
>> http://www.fiercewireless.com/special-report/gigabit-keeps-l
>> te-fast-lane?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWlRrMFkySTJObVU0TkRSbCIsInQiOiJ
>> CRytrXC9IdU92c3NISUVUOVBIOGJaMXNDZnN1aklXUUZ1VXJXQmFYS0NzdU1
>> kdmhVWTFBSFIwNDRcL0MzRERkNTlVSEJEUE9oM3RuVkttWFJRanE5ZUV2SHg
>> 3cFhPdERtZllVTVlwb3E4YlJkRDFtQ1ZoZHhIZzMyRTduRFR0V1IzIn0%3D
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2017 7:53 AM, "Jason McKemie" <j.mckemie@veloxinetbroadband.
>> com> wrote:
>>
>>> 5G. 5th generation? 5 GHz? 5 Gigawatts? This term is much more in the
>>> ether than something like LTE. The cell companies hyped up the marketing to
>>> the point where it lost the original meaning.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think its a marketing play with hyped terms that
>>>> not necessary follow what 5G really menas and its deceptive.
>>>>
>>>> Might as well call your service LTE… it provides broadband wirelessly…
>>>>
>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie <
>>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>>>
>>>> I don't see anything wrong with Mimosa calling their stuff 5G. They
>>>> should have gone ahead and called it 6G, it's effectively faster than the
>>>> cell companies' version of 5G...
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, no problem with that, but how do you call that 5G?
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Rory Conaway <
>>>>> r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM
>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>>>>
>>>>> Gino, the GPS software does work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I
>>>>> have seen in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Gino Villarini]

Not really

https://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2017/02/23/sprint-ericsson-to-demo-gigabit-data-speeds-over-td-lte/?utm_source=CommsUpdate_campaign=842ec531cf-CommsUpdate+23+February+2017_medium=email_term=0_0688983330-842ec531cf-8827113

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Jason 
McKemie 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com<mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:30 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

In a lab with unlimited spectrum maybe. It will be a fraction of this in all 
reality. They could get closer with millimeter wave, but that's a different 
animal entirely.

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Check this out
http://www.fiercewireless.com/special-report/gigabit-keeps-lte-fast-lane?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWlRrMFkySTJObVU0TkRSbCIsInQiOiJCRytrXC9IdU92c3NISUVUOVBIOGJaMXNDZnN1aklXUUZ1VXJXQmFYS0NzdU1kdmhVWTFBSFIwNDRcL0MzRERkNTlVSEJEUE9oM3RuVkttWFJRanE5ZUV2SHg3cFhPdERtZllVTVlwb3E4YlJkRDFtQ1ZoZHhIZzMyRTduRFR0V1IzIn0%3D




Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On Feb 22, 2017 7:53 AM, "Jason McKemie" 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');>>
 wrote:
5G. 5th generation? 5 GHz? 5 Gigawatts? This term is much more in the ether 
than something like LTE. The cell companies hyped up the marketing to the point 
where it lost the original meaning.

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini 
<g...@aeronetpr.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','g...@aeronetpr.com');>> wrote:
I think its a marketing play with hyped terms that not necessary follow what 5G 
really menas and its deceptive.

Might as well call your service LTE… it provides broadband wirelessly…

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

I don't see anything wrong with Mimosa calling their stuff 5G. They should have 
gone ahead and called it 6G, it's effectively faster than the cell companies' 
version of 5G...

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
Yeah, no problem with that, but how do you call that 5G?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

Gino, the GPS software does work.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G


That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I have seen 
in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had their fill .






Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean, despite 
spending a lot of money on them:

WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server

And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining “unlimited” 
as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm wanting people to 
think their phones will soon have gigabit download speeds.  Mobile carriers of 
course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data plans, and manufacturers like 
Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end user speed.  As well as neglecting 
to explain that all that unlicensed spectrum will only be used for urban small 
cells, not the celltower 5 miles from your house in the country.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

Ouch…



From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com&g

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Jason McKemie]

In a lab with unlimited spectrum maybe. It will be a fraction of this in
all reality. They could get closer with millimeter wave, but that's a
different animal entirely.

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Check this out
> http://www.fiercewireless.com/special-report/gigabit-keeps-
> lte-fast-lane?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWlRrMFkySTJObVU0TkRSbC
> IsInQiOiJCRytrXC9IdU92c3NISUVUOVBIOGJaMXNDZnN1aklXUUZ1VXJXQm
> FYS0NzdU1kdmhVWTFBSFIwNDRcL0MzRERkNTlVSEJEUE9oM3RuVkttWFJRan
> E5ZUV2SHg3cFhPdERtZllVTVlwb3E4YlJkRDFtQ1ZoZHhIZzMyRTduRFR0V1IzIn0%3D
>
> On Feb 22, 2017 7:53 AM, "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');>> wrote:
>
>> 5G. 5th generation? 5 GHz? 5 Gigawatts? This term is much more in the
>> ether than something like LTE. The cell companies hyped up the marketing to
>> the point where it lost the original meaning.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','g...@aeronetpr.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think its a marketing play with hyped terms that
>>> not necessary follow what 5G really menas and its deceptive.
>>>
>>> Might as well call your service LTE… it provides broadband wirelessly…
>>>
>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>>
>>> I don't see anything wrong with Mimosa calling their stuff 5G. They
>>> should have gone ahead and called it 6G, it's effectively faster than the
>>> cell companies' version of 5G...
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, no problem with that, but how do you call that 5G?
>>>>
>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Rory Conaway <
>>>> r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>>>
>>>> Gino, the GPS software does work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I
>>>> have seen in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had
>>>> their fill .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gino Villarini*
>>>> President
>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gino Villarini*
>>>> President
>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>
>>>> On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean,
>>>> despite spending a lot of money on them:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining
>>>> “unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm
>>>> wanting people to think their phones will soon have gigabit download
>>>> speeds.  Mobile carriers of course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data
>>>> plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end
>>>> user speed.  As well as neglecting to explain that all that unlicensed
>>>> spectrum will only be used for urban small cells, not the celltower 5 miles
>>>> from your house in the country.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-mo
>>>> dem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ouch…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Stefan Englhardt <
>>>> s...@genias.net>
>>>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
>>>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 5G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner:
>>>> mimosa.
>>>>
>>>> But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to
>>>> make their
>>>>
>>>> Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gino Villarini*
>>>>
>>>> President
>>>>
>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Jaime Solorza]

Check this out
http://www.fiercewireless.com/special-report/gigabit-keeps-lte-fast-lane?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWlRrMFkySTJObVU0TkRSbCIsInQiOiJCRytrXC9IdU92c3NISUVUOVBIOGJaMXNDZnN1aklXUUZ1VXJXQmFYS0NzdU1kdmhVWTFBSFIwNDRcL0MzRERkNTlVSEJEUE9oM3RuVkttWFJRanE5ZUV2SHg3cFhPdERtZllVTVlwb3E4YlJkRDFtQ1ZoZHhIZzMyRTduRFR0V1IzIn0%3D

On Feb 22, 2017 7:53 AM, "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
wrote:

> 5G. 5th generation? 5 GHz? 5 Gigawatts? This term is much more in the
> ether than something like LTE. The cell companies hyped up the marketing to
> the point where it lost the original meaning.
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>
>> I think its a marketing play with hyped terms that
>> not necessary follow what 5G really menas and its deceptive.
>>
>> Might as well call your service LTE… it provides broadband wirelessly…
>>
>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>
>> I don't see anything wrong with Mimosa calling their stuff 5G. They
>> should have gone ahead and called it 6G, it's effectively faster than the
>> cell companies' version of 5G...
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, no problem with that, but how do you call that 5G?
>>>
>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Rory Conaway <
>>> r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>>
>>> Gino, the GPS software does work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I have
>>> seen in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had their
>>> fill .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean,
>>> despite spending a lot of money on them:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining
>>> “unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm
>>> wanting people to think their phones will soon have gigabit download
>>> speeds.  Mobile carriers of course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data
>>> plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end
>>> user speed.  As well as neglecting to explain that all that unlicensed
>>> spectrum will only be used for urban small cells, not the celltower 5 miles
>>> from your house in the country.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-mo
>>> dem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ouch…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Stefan Englhardt <
>>> s...@genias.net>
>>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
>>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 5G
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.
>>>
>>> But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to
>>> make their
>>>
>>> Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino Villarini*
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Jason McKemie]

5G. 5th generation? 5 GHz? 5 Gigawatts? This term is much more in the ether
than something like LTE. The cell companies hyped up the marketing to the
point where it lost the original meaning.

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

> I think its a marketing play with hyped terms that
> not necessary follow what 5G really menas and its deceptive.
>
> Might as well call your service LTE… it provides broadband wirelessly…
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on behalf of
> Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');>>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM
> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
> I don't see anything wrong with Mimosa calling their stuff 5G. They should
> have gone ahead and called it 6G, it's effectively faster than the cell
> companies' version of 5G...
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','g...@aeronetpr.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, no problem with that, but how do you call that 5G?
>>
>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Rory Conaway <
>> r...@triadwireless.net>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>
>> Gino, the GPS software does work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>
>>
>>
>> That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I have
>> seen in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had their
>> fill .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean,
>> despite spending a lot of money on them:
>>
>>
>>
>> WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server
>>
>>
>>
>> And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining
>> “unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm
>> wanting people to think their phones will soon have gigabit download
>> speeds.  Mobile carriers of course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data
>> plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end
>> user speed.  As well as neglecting to explain that all that unlicensed
>> spectrum will only be used for urban small cells, not the celltower 5 miles
>> from your house in the country.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-
>> modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>
>>
>>
>> Ouch…
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Stefan Englhardt <
>> s...@genias.net>
>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 5G
>>
>>
>>
>> Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.
>>
>> But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.
>>
>>
>>
>> Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to
>> make their
>>
>> Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino Villarini*
>>
>> President
>>
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Gino Villarini]

I think its a marketing play with hyped terms that not necessary follow what 5G 
really menas and its deceptive.

Might as well call your service LTE… it provides broadband wirelessly…

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Jason 
McKemie 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com<mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

I don't see anything wrong with Mimosa calling their stuff 5G. They should have 
gone ahead and called it 6G, it's effectively faster than the cell companies' 
version of 5G...

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini 
<g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
Yeah, no problem with that, but how do you call that 5G?

From: Af 
<af-boun...@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on 
behalf of Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','r...@triadwireless.net');>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" 
<af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" 
<af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

Gino, the GPS software does work.

Rory

From: Af 
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>]
 On Behalf Of David Milholen
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G


That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I have seen 
in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had their fill .






Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean, despite 
spending a lot of money on them:

WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server

And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining “unlimited” 
as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm wanting people to 
think their phones will soon have gigabit download speeds.  Mobile carriers of 
course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data plans, and manufacturers like 
Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end user speed.  As well as neglecting 
to explain that all that unlicensed spectrum will only be used for urban small 
cells, not the celltower 5 miles from your house in the country.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/


From: Af 
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>]
 On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

Ouch…



From: Af 
<af-boun...@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on 
behalf of Stefan Englhardt 
<s...@genias.net<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','s...@genias.net');>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" 
<af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" 
<af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
Subject: [AFMUG] 5G

Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.
But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.

Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to make 
their
Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.





Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


[cid:image001.png@01D28C69.7F446850]

--
[cid:image002.jpg@01D28C69.7F446850]

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Faisal Imtiaz]

C'mon Hal.. that is a bit cruel Most of our parents (mine included) cannot 
move fast enough to deal with 'gigabit'... 

This is kind of like  When they put Nick Hogan behind the wheels of a NAS 
Car ! 

LOL! . 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Harold Bledsoe" <hbledso...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:33:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

> I wonder what the recognition is of "gigabit" now? I usually test things like
> this on my parents. :-)

> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:38 PM Ken Hohhof < af...@kwisp.com > wrote:

>> The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean, 
>> despite
>> spending a lot of money on them:

>> WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server

>> And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining 
>> “unlimited”
>> as “throttled after 22 GB”. The latest I saw is Qualcomm wanting people to
>> think their phones will soon have gigabit download speeds. Mobile carriers of
>> course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data plans, and manufacturers like
>> Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end user speed. As well as neglecting 
>> to
>> explain that all that unlicensed spectrum will only be used for urban small
>> cells, not the celltower 5 miles from your house in the country.

>> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/

>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

>> Ouch…

>> From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Stefan Englhardt < 
>> s...@genias.net
>> >
>> Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
>> Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
>> To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
>> Subject: [AFMUG] 5G

>> Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.

>> But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.

>> Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to make
>> their

>> Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.

>> Gino Villarini

>> President

>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Faisal Imtiaz]

To answer the question. this little nugget of history comes to mind... 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjqV6eKabs 

I love the reaction and comments from Ozzy in the video. 
I think this is a classic for our industry ! 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 4:27:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

> Yeah, no problem with that, but how do you call that 5G?

> From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Rory Conaway <
> r...@triadwireless.net >
> Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
> Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM
> To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

> Gino, the GPS software does work.

> Rory

> From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of David Milholen
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

> That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I have seen 
> in
> a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had their fill .

> Gino Villarini
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

> On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

>> The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean, 
>> despite
>> spending a lot of money on them:

>> WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server

>> And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining 
>> “unlimited”
>> as “throttled after 22 GB”. The latest I saw is Qualcomm wanting people to
>> think their phones will soon have gigabit download speeds. Mobile carriers of
>> course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data plans, and manufacturers like
>> Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end user speed. As well as neglecting 
>> to
>> explain that all that unlicensed spectrum will only be used for urban small
>> cells, not the celltower 5 miles from your house in the country.

>> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/

>> From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

>> Ouch…

>> From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Stefan Englhardt < 
>> s...@genias.net
>> >
>> Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
>> Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
>> To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
>> Subject: [AFMUG] 5G

>> Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.

>> But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.

>> Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to make
>> their

>> Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.

>> Gino Villarini

>> President

>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

> --

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Harold Bledsoe]

I wonder what the recognition is of "gigabit" now?  I usually test things
like this on my parents.  :-)

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:38 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean,
> despite spending a lot of money on them:
>
>
>
> WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server
>
>
>
> And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining
> “unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm
> wanting people to think their phones will soon have gigabit download
> speeds.  Mobile carriers of course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data
> plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end
> user speed.  As well as neglecting to explain that all that unlicensed
> spectrum will only be used for urban small cells, not the celltower 5 miles
> from your house in the country.
>
>
>
>
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Ouch…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Stefan Englhardt <
> s...@genias.net>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.
>
> But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.
>
>
>
> Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to
> make their
>
> Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> [image: image002.png]
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Jason McKemie]

I don't see anything wrong with Mimosa calling their stuff 5G. They should
have gone ahead and called it 6G, it's effectively faster than the cell
companies' version of 5G...

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

> Yeah, no problem with that, but how do you call that 5G?
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on behalf of Rory
> Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','r...@triadwireless.net');>>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
> Gino, the GPS software does work.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *David
> Milholen
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I have
> seen in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had their
> fill .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean,
> despite spending a lot of money on them:
>
>
>
> WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server
>
>
>
> And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining
> “unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm
> wanting people to think their phones will soon have gigabit download
> speeds.  Mobile carriers of course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data
> plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end
> user speed.  As well as neglecting to explain that all that unlicensed
> spectrum will only be used for urban small cells, not the celltower 5 miles
> from your house in the country.
>
>
>
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-
> lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Gino
> Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Ouch…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on behalf of
> Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','s...@genias.net');>>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>"
> <af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" <
> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.
>
> But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.
>
>
>
> Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to
> make their
>
> Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>
> --
>

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Gino Villarini]

Yeah, no problem with that, but how do you call that 5G?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

Gino, the GPS software does work.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G


That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I have seen 
in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had their fill .






Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean, despite 
spending a lot of money on them:

WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server

And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining “unlimited” 
as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm wanting people to 
think their phones will soon have gigabit download speeds.  Mobile carriers of 
course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data plans, and manufacturers like 
Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end user speed.  As well as neglecting 
to explain that all that unlicensed spectrum will only be used for urban small 
cells, not the celltower 5 miles from your house in the country.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

Ouch…



From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net<mailto:s...@genias.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] 5G

Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.
But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.

Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to make 
their
Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.





Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Keefe John]

Yes the GPS sync works. The final firmware was released today.

Keefe

On February 21, 2017 7:07:54 PM CST, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
>That's new... Now you are a high member of caste system... Unwashed
>masses?
>  Too funny... Not haha funny...
>
>On Feb 21, 2017 1:38 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We are. But we are also separate and distinct from the unwashed
>masses.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 2/21/2017 12:35 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Aghast... Are we not consumers.?
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2017 11:38 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms
>mean,
>>> despite spending a lot of money on them:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining
>>> “unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is
>Qualcomm
>>> wanting people to think their phones will soon have gigabit download
>>> speeds.  Mobile carriers of course don’t sell speed plans, they sell
>data
>>> plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with
>end
>>> user speed.  As well as neglecting to explain that all that
>unlicensed
>>> spectrum will only be used for urban small cells, not the celltower
>5 miles
>>> from your house in the country.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-
>>> modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino
>Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ouch…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Stefan Englhardt <
>>> s...@genias.net>
>>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
>>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 5G
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner:
>mimosa.
>>>
>>> But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff
>to
>>> make their
>>>
>>> Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino Villarini*
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>>
>>

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Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Ken Hohhof]

I may be unwashed, but I am not a ghast.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

 

That's new... Now you are a high member of caste system... Unwashed masses?   
Too funny... Not haha funny... 

 

On Feb 21, 2017 1:38 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com 
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

We are. But we are also separate and distinct from the unwashed masses.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
 

On 2/21/2017 12:35 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Aghast... Are we not consumers.? 

 

On Feb 21, 2017 11:38 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean, despite 
spending a lot of money on them:

 

WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server

 

And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining “unlimited” 
as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm wanting people to 
think their phones will soon have gigabit download speeds.  Mobile carriers of 
course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data plans, and manufacturers like 
Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end user speed.  As well as neglecting 
to explain that all that unlicensed spectrum will only be used for urban small 
cells, not the celltower 5 miles from your house in the country.

 

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

 

Ouch… 

 

 

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of 
Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net <mailto:s...@genias.net> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] 5G

 

Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.

But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.

 

Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to make 
their

Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing. 

 

 


 

Gino Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



 

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Jaime Solorza]

That's new... Now you are a high member of caste system... Unwashed masses?
  Too funny... Not haha funny...

On Feb 21, 2017 1:38 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We are. But we are also separate and distinct from the unwashed masses.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 2/21/2017 12:35 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Aghast... Are we not consumers.?
>
> On Feb 21, 2017 11:38 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean,
>> despite spending a lot of money on them:
>>
>>
>>
>> WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server
>>
>>
>>
>> And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining
>> “unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm
>> wanting people to think their phones will soon have gigabit download
>> speeds.  Mobile carriers of course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data
>> plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end
>> user speed.  As well as neglecting to explain that all that unlicensed
>> spectrum will only be used for urban small cells, not the celltower 5 miles
>> from your house in the country.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-
>> modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>>
>>
>>
>> Ouch…
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Stefan Englhardt <
>> s...@genias.net>
>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 5G
>>
>>
>>
>> Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.
>>
>> But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.
>>
>>
>>
>> Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to
>> make their
>>
>> Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino Villarini*
>>
>> President
>>
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Rory Conaway]

Gino, the GPS software does work.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G


That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I have seen 
in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had their fill .



On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean, despite 
spending a lot of money on them:

WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server

And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining “unlimited” 
as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm wanting people to 
think their phones will soon have gigabit download speeds.  Mobile carriers of 
course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data plans, and manufacturers like 
Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end user speed.  As well as neglecting 
to explain that all that unlicensed spectrum will only be used for urban small 
cells, not the celltower 5 miles from your house in the country.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

Ouch…



From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net<mailto:s...@genias.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] 5G

Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.
But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.

Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to make 
their
Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.





Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[David Milholen]

That sounds like a WIFI company we have here boasting the most BS I have 
seen in a while. So, happy to get sloppy seconds after customer had 
their fill .




On 2/21/2017 12:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean, 
despite spending a lot of money on them:


WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server

And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining 
“unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm 
wanting people to think their phones will soon have gigabit download 
speeds.  Mobile carriers of course don’t sell speed plans, they sell 
data plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm conflate sector capacity 
with end user speed.  As well as neglecting to explain that all that 
unlicensed spectrum will only be used for urban small cells, not the 
celltower 5 miles from your house in the country.


https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G

Ouch…

*From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on 
behalf of Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net <mailto:s...@genias.net>>
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>

*Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
*To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>

*Subject: *[AFMUG] 5G

Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.

But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.

Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to 
make their


Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.

/*Gino Villarini*/

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



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Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Bill Prince]

We are. But we are also separate and distinct from the unwashed masses.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/21/2017 12:35 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Aghast... Are we not consumers.?

On Feb 21, 2017 11:38 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:


The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms
mean, despite spending a lot of money on them:

WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server

And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example
defining “unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw
is Qualcomm wanting people to think their phones will soon have
gigabit download speeds.  Mobile carriers of course don’t sell
speed plans, they sell data plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm
conflate sector capacity with end user speed.  As well as
neglecting to explain that all that unlicensed spectrum will only
be used for urban small cells, not the celltower 5 miles from your
house in the country.


https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/

<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/>

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G

Ouch…

*From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on
behalf of Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net <mailto:s...@genias.net>>
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
*To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Subject: *[AFMUG] 5G

Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner:
mimosa.

But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.

Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering
staff to make their

Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.

/*Gino Villarini*/

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Jaime Solorza]

Aghast... Are we not consumers.?

On Feb 21, 2017 11:38 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean,
> despite spending a lot of money on them:
>
>
>
> WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server
>
>
>
> And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining
> “unlimited” as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm
> wanting people to think their phones will soon have gigabit download
> speeds.  Mobile carriers of course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data
> plans, and manufacturers like Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end
> user speed.  As well as neglecting to explain that all that unlicensed
> spectrum will only be used for urban small cells, not the celltower 5 miles
> from your house in the country.
>
>
>
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-
> lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Ouch…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Stefan Englhardt <
> s...@genias.net>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 5G
>
>
>
> Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.
>
> But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.
>
>
>
> Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to
> make their
>
> Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Ken Hohhof]

The average consumer has no clue what any of the following terms mean, despite 
spending a lot of money on them:

 

WiFi, 4G, 5G, LTE, modem, router, satellite, server

 

And the industry is happy to keep them stupid, for example defining “unlimited” 
as “throttled after 22 GB”.  The latest I saw is Qualcomm wanting people to 
think their phones will soon have gigabit download speeds.  Mobile carriers of 
course don’t sell speed plans, they sell data plans, and manufacturers like 
Qualcomm conflate sector capacity with end user speed.  As well as neglecting 
to explain that all that unlicensed spectrum will only be used for urban small 
cells, not the celltower 5 miles from your house in the country.

 

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/qualcomms-new-lte-modem-will-make-gigabit-download-speeds-easier-to-hit/

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5G

 

Ouch… 

 

 

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of 
Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net <mailto:s...@genias.net> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] 5G

 

Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.

But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.

 

Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to make 
their

Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing. 

 

 


 

Gino Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Josh Luthman]

He's not wrong.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

> Ouch…
>
>
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Stefan Englhardt <
> s...@genias.net>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] 5G
>
> Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.
>
> But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.
>
>
>
> Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to
> make their
>
> Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 5G

[Gino Villarini]

Ouch…



From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net<mailto:s...@genias.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:49 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] 5G

Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.
But of course air-„fiber“ is not bad, too.

Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to make 
their
Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.





Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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[AFMUG] 5G

[Stefan Englhardt]

Now the first wifi is called 5G. And who is the marketing winner: mimosa.

But of course air-"fiber" is not bad, too.



Both companies should move some sales guys to the engineering staff to make 
their

Ptmp wifi gear gps work before claiming the next big thing.

[AFMUG] 5G Spectrum Sharing Brings Innovations | Light Reading

[Jaime Solorza]

http://www.lightreading.com/mobile/5g/5g-spectrum-sharing-brings-innovations/a/d-id/728729?f_src=lightreading_editorspicks_rss_latest_editors_picks=true

Re: [AFMUG] 5G to the home

[Josh Reynolds]

I know AT is banking on this for non uverse areas.
On Feb 10, 2016 2:45 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

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> http://www.pcworld.com/article/3031008/5g-might-be-your-next-home-broadband-service.html?#tk.rss_all
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of
> comfort or convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge or
> controversy” – Martin Luther King
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 5G to the home

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

a monopole on every block is a basic human right

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> I know AT is banking on this for non uverse areas.
> On Feb 10, 2016 2:45 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/3031008/5g-might-be-your-next-home-broadband-service.html?#tk.rss_all
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of
>> comfort or convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge or
>> controversy” – Martin Luther King
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] 5G to the home

[Josh Luthman]

I use it for OOB management.  I wouldn't recommend it for backup unless you
have a sweet Sprint plan.  Even an hour would be dozens of gigabytes.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> On a more serious note. Has anyone used a cellular data device connected
> to a tik for backup?
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 2:04 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> low hanging fruit customers and plenty of gubmint monies, anything can be
>> done if you subsidize it heavily enough, maybe throw another 10 bucks a
>> barrel on gass so we can have self driving cars with gigabit to the car,
>> having gigabit connectivity to netflix in your car you arent driving is
>> also a basic human right, and that is fixed wireless, since you arent
>> personally moving since youre sitting in your bed seat in your car
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure how they think this is going to work anywhere but very
>>> specific areas. I could see a use for this type of equipment, but it would
>>> have to be orders of magnitude cheaper than it is. That is with my
>>> expectations as well - not a big company like AT
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 a monopole on every block is a basic human right

 On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

> I know AT is banking on this for non uverse areas.
> On Feb 10, 2016 2:45 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/3031008/5g-might-be-your-next-home-broadband-service.html?#tk.rss_all
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net*
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of
>> comfort or convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge or
>> controversy” – Martin Luther King
>>
>>
>>
>


 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 5G to the home

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

low hanging fruit customers and plenty of gubmint monies, anything can be
done if you subsidize it heavily enough, maybe throw another 10 bucks a
barrel on gass so we can have self driving cars with gigabit to the car,
having gigabit connectivity to netflix in your car you arent driving is
also a basic human right, and that is fixed wireless, since you arent
personally moving since youre sitting in your bed seat in your car

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure how they think this is going to work anywhere but very
> specific areas. I could see a use for this type of equipment, but it would
> have to be orders of magnitude cheaper than it is. That is with my
> expectations as well - not a big company like AT
>
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> a monopole on every block is a basic human right
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know AT is banking on this for non uverse areas.
>>> On Feb 10, 2016 2:45 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>>

 http://www.pcworld.com/article/3031008/5g-might-be-your-next-home-broadband-service.html?#tk.rss_all



 *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*

 *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

 *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*

 *r...@triadwireless.net*

 *www.triadwireless.net *



 “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of
 comfort or convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge or
 controversy” – Martin Luther King



>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] 5G to the home

[Lewis Bergman]

On a more serious note. Has anyone used a cellular data device connected to
a tik for backup?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 2:04 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> low hanging fruit customers and plenty of gubmint monies, anything can be
> done if you subsidize it heavily enough, maybe throw another 10 bucks a
> barrel on gass so we can have self driving cars with gigabit to the car,
> having gigabit connectivity to netflix in your car you arent driving is
> also a basic human right, and that is fixed wireless, since you arent
> personally moving since youre sitting in your bed seat in your car
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure how they think this is going to work anywhere but very
>> specific areas. I could see a use for this type of equipment, but it would
>> have to be orders of magnitude cheaper than it is. That is with my
>> expectations as well - not a big company like AT
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> a monopole on every block is a basic human right
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I know AT is banking on this for non uverse areas.
 On Feb 10, 2016 2:45 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

>
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/3031008/5g-might-be-your-next-home-broadband-service.html?#tk.rss_all
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net*
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of
> comfort or convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge or
> controversy” – Martin Luther King
>
>
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] 5G to the home

[Jason McKemie]

I'm not sure how they think this is going to work anywhere but very
specific areas. I could see a use for this type of equipment, but it would
have to be orders of magnitude cheaper than it is. That is with my
expectations as well - not a big company like AT

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> a monopole on every block is a basic human right
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Josh Reynolds  > wrote:
>
>> I know AT is banking on this for non uverse areas.
>> On Feb 10, 2016 2:45 AM, "Rory Conaway" > > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/3031008/5g-might-be-your-next-home-broadband-service.html?#tk.rss_all
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>>
>>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>>
>>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>>
>>> *r...@triadwireless.net
>>> *
>>>
>>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of
>>> comfort or convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge or
>>> controversy” – Martin Luther King
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

[AFMUG] 5G to the home

[Rory Conaway]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3031008/5g-might-be-your-next-home-broadband-service.html?#tk.rss_all

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort or 
convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge or controversy" - Martin 
Luther King