Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep itcompetitive |Computerworld

2016-08-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
This sounds like the situation faced in a lot of European cities where 
digging up streets and sidewalks is prohibitively expensive or just not 
feasible.


Do we know yet if they are looking at wireless direct to the customer, or as 
a backhaul to feed a fiber distribution point?


If it's wireless to the customer, I am reminded of "Starry" which I almost 
wonder if it's some kind of scam.  Now you have the problem of getting LOS 
from a window antenna at every customer, or else negotiating roof rights 
with every MDU and MTU building owner (which yes is reminiscent of Winstar 
and Teligent).



-Original Message- 
From: Seth Mattinen

Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep 
itcompetitive |Computerworld


On 8/16/16 07:39, Chuck McCown wrote:

Google is going to attempt to sell the world that their exotic super
special wireless is an evolution in broadband.
But the world will detect the odor of BS in the air and call BS on Google.



There's still enough people around that believe everything Google
touches is gold.

On the other hand, WISPs can now claim they use the same technology
Google is using to deliver service.

~Seth 





Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep itcompetitive |Computerworld

2016-08-16 Thread Seth Mattinen

On 8/16/16 07:39, Chuck McCown wrote:

Google is going to attempt to sell the world that their exotic super
special wireless is an evolution in broadband.
But the world will detect the odor of BS in the air and call BS on Google.



There's still enough people around that believe everything Google 
touches is gold.


On the other hand, WISPs can now claim they use the same technology 
Google is using to deliver service.


~Seth


Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep itcompetitive |Computerworld

2016-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Google is going to attempt to sell the world that their exotic super special 
wireless is an evolution in broadband.
But the world will detect the odor of BS in the air and call BS on Google.  

It appears they found that fiber is more expensive to do and less lucrative 
(the way they do it) than they thought.  Moreover the loss of goodwill from 
cherry picking customers is giving them a black eye.  

OK fine, wireless will be much more egalitarian, quick and easy to deploy, 
right...
Let’s sound retreat and go back to ball and musket.  Those damned repeating 
rifles are too costly.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 8:32 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep itcompetitive 
|Computerworld

Remember winstar and others who tried?  Look at Vivint... 


On Aug 16, 2016 7:31 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  Yeah, kinda throwing in the towel it seems.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 10:22 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep it competitive 
|Computerworld

  
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3107835/wireless-networking/a-google-fiber-move-to-wireless-could-keep-it-competitive.html
  I laughed