Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keepitcompetitive|Computerworld

2016-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, use a Google Gig connection at a customer’s house to feed the APs on 
their roof...
VPN them.  That would make life easy.  

From: Kurt Fankhauser 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 9:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could 
keepitcompetitive|Computerworld

it would be funny if a WISP moved into a google fiber city and started stealing 
their customers!

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

  Silly Valley is anything but egalitarian...But it is a pretty good 
meritocracy...

  On 08/16/2016 07:44 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Be interesting to see a map of Google deployments overlayed with a map
of racial/cultural demographics for the same area...
I’ll bet there is a helluva digital divide goin’ on.
*From:* Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 8:39 AM
*To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could
    keepitcompetitive |Computerworld
Google is going to attempt to sell the world that their exotic super
special wireless is an evolution in broadband.
But the world will detect the odor of BS in the air and call BS on Google.
It appears they found that fiber is more expensive to do and less
lucrative (the way they do it) than they thought.  Moreover the loss of
goodwill from cherry picking customers is giving them a black eye.
OK fine, wireless will be much more egalitarian, quick and easy to
deploy, right...
Let’s sound retreat and go back to ball and musket.  Those damned
repeating rifles are too costly.
*From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 8:32 AM
*To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep
itcompetitive |Computerworld

Remember winstar and others who tried?  Look at Vivint...

On Aug 16, 2016 7:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Yeah, kinda throwing in the towel it seems.
*From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2016 10:22 PM
*To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep it
competitive |Computerworld


http://www.computerworld.com/article/3107835/wireless-networking/a-google-fiber-move-to-wireless-could-keep-it-competitive.html

<http://www.computerworld.com/article/3107835/wireless-networking/a-google-fiber-move-to-wireless-could-keep-it-competitive.html>
I laughed




Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keepitcompetitive |Computerworld

2016-08-16 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
it would be funny if a WISP moved into a google fiber city and started
stealing their customers!

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
wrote:

> Silly Valley is anything but egalitarian...But it is a pretty good
> meritocracy...
>
> On 08/16/2016 07:44 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>> Be interesting to see a map of Google deployments overlayed with a map
>> of racial/cultural demographics for the same area...
>> I’ll bet there is a helluva digital divide goin’ on.
>> *From:* Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 8:39 AM
>> *To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could
>> keepitcompetitive |Computerworld
>> Google is going to attempt to sell the world that their exotic super
>> special wireless is an evolution in broadband.
>> But the world will detect the odor of BS in the air and call BS on Google.
>> It appears they found that fiber is more expensive to do and less
>> lucrative (the way they do it) than they thought.  Moreover the loss of
>> goodwill from cherry picking customers is giving them a black eye.
>> OK fine, wireless will be much more egalitarian, quick and easy to
>> deploy, right...
>> Let’s sound retreat and go back to ball and musket.  Those damned
>> repeating rifles are too costly.
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 8:32 AM
>> *To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep
>> itcompetitive |Computerworld
>>
>> Remember winstar and others who tried?  Look at Vivint...
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2016 7:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com
>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, kinda throwing in the towel it seems.
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2016 10:22 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep it
>> competitive |Computerworld
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/3107835/wireless-networ
>> king/a-google-fiber-move-to-wireless-could-keep-it-competitive.html
>> <http://www.computerworld.com/article/3107835/wireless-netwo
>> rking/a-google-fiber-move-to-wireless-could-keep-it-competitive.html>
>> I laughed
>>
>>


Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keepitcompetitive |Computerworld

2016-08-16 Thread Robert Andrews
Silly Valley is anything but egalitarian...But it is a pretty good 
meritocracy...


On 08/16/2016 07:44 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Be interesting to see a map of Google deployments overlayed with a map
of racial/cultural demographics for the same area...
I’ll bet there is a helluva digital divide goin’ on.
*From:* Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 8:39 AM
*To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could
keepitcompetitive |Computerworld
Google is going to attempt to sell the world that their exotic super
special wireless is an evolution in broadband.
But the world will detect the odor of BS in the air and call BS on Google.
It appears they found that fiber is more expensive to do and less
lucrative (the way they do it) than they thought.  Moreover the loss of
goodwill from cherry picking customers is giving them a black eye.
OK fine, wireless will be much more egalitarian, quick and easy to
deploy, right...
Let’s sound retreat and go back to ball and musket.  Those damned
repeating rifles are too costly.
*From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 8:32 AM
*To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep
itcompetitive |Computerworld

Remember winstar and others who tried?  Look at Vivint...

On Aug 16, 2016 7:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

Yeah, kinda throwing in the towel it seems.
*From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2016 10:22 PM
*To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep it
competitive |Computerworld


http://www.computerworld.com/article/3107835/wireless-networking/a-google-fiber-move-to-wireless-could-keep-it-competitive.html

<http://www.computerworld.com/article/3107835/wireless-networking/a-google-fiber-move-to-wireless-could-keep-it-competitive.html>
I laughed



Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keepitcompetitive |Computerworld

2016-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Be interesting to see a map of Google deployments overlayed with a map of 
racial/cultural demographics for the same area...
I’ll bet there is a helluva digital divide goin’ on.  

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 8:39 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keepitcompetitive 
|Computerworld

Google is going to attempt to sell the world that their exotic super special 
wireless is an evolution in broadband.
But the world will detect the odor of BS in the air and call BS on Google.  

It appears they found that fiber is more expensive to do and less lucrative 
(the way they do it) than they thought.  Moreover the loss of goodwill from 
cherry picking customers is giving them a black eye.  

OK fine, wireless will be much more egalitarian, quick and easy to deploy, 
right...
Let’s sound retreat and go back to ball and musket.  Those damned repeating 
rifles are too costly.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 8:32 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep itcompetitive 
|Computerworld

Remember winstar and others who tried?  Look at Vivint... 


On Aug 16, 2016 7:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Yeah, kinda throwing in the towel it seems.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 10:22 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: [AFMUG] A Google Fiber move to wireless could keep it competitive 
|Computerworld

  
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3107835/wireless-networking/a-google-fiber-move-to-wireless-could-keep-it-competitive.html
  I laughed