subject:"\[AFMUG\] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links"

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-23 Thread Rory Conaway

Whoops, this is what happens when you have 2 hours of sleep.  Please ignore 
this.

rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Yea, the jackasses at APS are now saying 10am. I was on the phone with them at 
4am and they flat told me the techs were onsite and ETA was 6:40.  I went to 
bed.  We call them at 7am to get an update and they said nobody was there and 
they are dispatching now.  ETA is 10am.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

We have two possible solutions we are persuing right now.

Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless

 Original message 
From: Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
Date: 3/23/2017 6:41 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
The only way I see it happening is with SDN

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Stephen Patrick 
<stephen.patr...@cablefree.co.uk<mailto:stephen.patr...@cablefree.co.uk>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 9:05 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Writing from the perspective of a 10Gbps MMW wireless vendor - this is a very 
interesting topic.
(our 10Gbps links fully available and shipping: including in 2+0 configuration 
which gives 20Gbps on the same antenna using H+V polarisations. Some customers 
are planning on stacking these again to give 40Gbps FDX capacity between sites).

Ideally, there would be some integration with the switch fabric for bonding.
Simplest scenario is if one link goes up/down in one or both directions; but 
more subtle is if/when ACM activates, two paths may operate at different speed 
(rain fade on H,V is not identical).
Some fairly intelligent IP fabric is required to do "Radio Link Aggregation" 
with variable rate wireless links.
I suspect that mobile operators/vendors will solve this first; solutions for 
corporates/ISPs will come along behind.

Best regards
Stephen

www.cablefree.net<http://www.cablefree.net>

Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:image001.png@01D2A3B2.D65D7180]
On 23 March 2017 at 07:21, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
It’s been a challenge.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:25 PM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

The bonding of 10G is the easy part. The management of data flows with regards 
to throughput capabilities on each link is the part that I'm surprised is 
taking so long to mature.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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____________
From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 3:00:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
Not a lot of people are trying to bond 10Gbps wireless circuits.  Even the 
products themselves are fairly new or still in development.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
S

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-23 Thread Rory Conaway

Yea, the jackasses at APS are now saying 10am. I was on the phone with them at 
4am and they flat told me the techs were onsite and ETA was 6:40.  I went to 
bed.  We call them at 7am to get an update and they said nobody was there and 
they are dispatching now.  ETA is 10am.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

We have two possible solutions we are persuing right now.

Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless

 Original message 
From: Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
Date: 3/23/2017 6:41 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
The only way I see it happening is with SDN

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Stephen Patrick 
<stephen.patr...@cablefree.co.uk<mailto:stephen.patr...@cablefree.co.uk>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 9:05 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Writing from the perspective of a 10Gbps MMW wireless vendor - this is a very 
interesting topic.
(our 10Gbps links fully available and shipping: including in 2+0 configuration 
which gives 20Gbps on the same antenna using H+V polarisations. Some customers 
are planning on stacking these again to give 40Gbps FDX capacity between sites).

Ideally, there would be some integration with the switch fabric for bonding.
Simplest scenario is if one link goes up/down in one or both directions; but 
more subtle is if/when ACM activates, two paths may operate at different speed 
(rain fade on H,V is not identical).
Some fairly intelligent IP fabric is required to do "Radio Link Aggregation" 
with variable rate wireless links.
I suspect that mobile operators/vendors will solve this first; solutions for 
corporates/ISPs will come along behind.

Best regards
Stephen

www.cablefree.net<http://www.cablefree.net>

Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:image001.png@01D2A3AB.89CD1660]
On 23 March 2017 at 07:21, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
It’s been a challenge.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:25 PM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

The bonding of 10G is the easy part. The management of data flows with regards 
to throughput capabilities on each link is the part that I'm surprised is 
taking so long to mature.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
____________
From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 3:00:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
Not a lot of people are trying to bond 10Gbps wireless circuits.  Even the 
products themselves are fairly new or still in development.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

It's quite surprising that this hasn't happened already.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-23 Thread Rory Conaway

It’s been a challenge.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

The bonding of 10G is the easy part. The management of data flows with regards 
to throughput capabilities on each link is the part that I'm surprised is 
taking so long to mature.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 3:00:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
Not a lot of people are trying to bond 10Gbps wireless circuits.  Even the 
products themselves are fairly new or still in development.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

It's quite surprising that this hasn't happened already.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
____
From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:55:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
It still needs feedback from the radios as far as I can tell but it’s an 
interesting idea.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

SDWAN?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:47 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Interesting.  Just talked to SIAE yesterday and they won’t have radios 
available for a while.   I believe we have 2 ideas on the table though, to 
address this.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Seems like you might need some Cisco and SIAE gear?

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/unified-ran-backhaul/white_paper_c11-728355.html

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com&g

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-22 Thread Mike Hammett

The bonding of 10G is the easy part. The management of data flows with regards 
to throughput capabilities on each link is the part that I'm surprised is 
taking so long to mature. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 3:00:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 



Not a lot of people are trying to bond 10Gbps wireless circuits. Even the 
products themselves are fairly new or still in development. 

Rory 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:57 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 


It's quite surprising that this hasn't happened already. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -


From: "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:55:39 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 
It still needs feedback from the radios as far as I can tell but it’s an 
interesting idea. 

Rory 



From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:48 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 


SDWAN? 



From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Rory Conaway < 
r...@triadwireless.net > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:47 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 




Interesting. Just talked to SIAE yesterday and they won’t have radios available 
for a while. I believe we have 2 ideas on the table though, to address this. 

Rory 



From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:02 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 


Seems like you might need some Cisco and SIAE gear? 



http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/unified-ran-backhaul/white_paper_c11-728355.html
 



From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Rory Conaway < 
r...@triadwireless.net > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:20 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 




Can be routed or switched. The end result simply needs to be 40Gbps with lower 
speeds optional in harsh weather with minimal latency. 

Rory 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:57 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 



That was an Accedian product. 



So you need 40Gbps... at a minimum of 8x10Gbps at each end. 


I think MikroTik has an 8 port 10Gbps CCR, but I don't have any experience with 
it. 

Can the hop be routed, or must it be switched? 






Gino Villarini 

President 

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 



Gino Villarini 

President 

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

On Mar 21, 2017 9:50 AM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote: 


Josh, what was that product that you used to rep? 

I actually need 40Gbps across 1 hop with four 10Gbps radios. Just need to 
figure out the best way to do it. Kevin Myers just posted this on Facebook. 

http://www.stubarea51.net/2016/10/27/wisp-design-using-ospf-to-build-a-transit-fabric-over-unequal-links/
 

Rory 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:48 AM 


To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 


Right. If you need a 10G+ stream, you'll need in-radio bonding. If you just 
need 10+ Gbps of traffic, there are multiple ways to do that. 




On Mar 21, 2017 9:38 AM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote: 



Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined. Some radio vendors 
do this but apparently not all. 

Rory 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:23 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 


He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie. 



Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the bugs 
unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;) 



On Mar 21, 2

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-22 Thread Rory Conaway

Not a lot of people are trying to bond 10Gbps wireless circuits.  Even the 
products themselves are fairly new or still in development.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

It's quite surprising that this hasn't happened already.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]

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From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:55:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
It still needs feedback from the radios as far as I can tell but it’s an 
interesting idea.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

SDWAN?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:47 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Interesting.  Just talked to SIAE yesterday and they won’t have radios 
available for a while.   I believe we have 2 ideas on the table though, to 
address this.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Seems like you might need some Cisco and SIAE gear?

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/unified-ran-backhaul/white_paper_c11-728355.html

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:20 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Can be routed or switched.   The end result simply needs to be 40Gbps with 
lower speeds optional in harsh weather with minimal latency.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

That was an Accedian product.

So you need 40Gbps... at a minimum of 8x10Gbps at each end.

I think MikroTik has an 8 port 10Gbps CCR, but I don't have any experience with 
it.
Can the hop be routed, or must it be switched?

Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[http://127.0.0.1:54012/service/home/~/?auth=co=1da921bb-b2a8-4368-bc2e-c997a36651f3:113198=2]

Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[http://127.0.0.1:54012/service/home/~/?auth=co=1da921bb-b2a8-4368-bc2e-c997a36651f3:113198=2]
On Mar 21, 2017 9:50 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Josh, what was that product that you used to rep?

I actually need 40Gbps across 1 hop with four 10Gbps radios.  Just need to 
figure out the best way to do it.  Kevin Myers just posted this on Facebook.

http://www.stubarea51.net/2016/10/27/wisp-design-using-ospf-to-build-

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-22 Thread Mike Hammett

It's quite surprising that this hasn't happened already. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:55:39 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 



It still needs feedback from the radios as far as I can tell but it’s an 
interesting idea. 

Rory 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:48 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 


SDWAN? 



From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Rory Conaway < 
r...@triadwireless.net > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:47 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 




Interesting. Just talked to SIAE yesterday and they won’t have radios available 
for a while. I believe we have 2 ideas on the table though, to address this. 

Rory 



From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:02 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 


Seems like you might need some Cisco and SIAE gear? 



http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/unified-ran-backhaul/white_paper_c11-728355.html
 



From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Rory Conaway < 
r...@triadwireless.net > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:20 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 




Can be routed or switched. The end result simply needs to be 40Gbps with lower 
speeds optional in harsh weather with minimal latency. 

Rory 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:57 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 



That was an Accedian product. 



So you need 40Gbps... at a minimum of 8x10Gbps at each end. 


I think MikroTik has an 8 port 10Gbps CCR, but I don't have any experience with 
it. 

Can the hop be routed, or must it be switched? 






Gino Villarini 

President 

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 



Gino Villarini 

President 

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

On Mar 21, 2017 9:50 AM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote: 


Josh, what was that product that you used to rep? 

I actually need 40Gbps across 1 hop with four 10Gbps radios. Just need to 
figure out the best way to do it. Kevin Myers just posted this on Facebook. 

http://www.stubarea51.net/2016/10/27/wisp-design-using-ospf-to-build-a-transit-fabric-over-unequal-links/
 

Rory 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:48 AM 


To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 


Right. If you need a 10G+ stream, you'll need in-radio bonding. If you just 
need 10+ Gbps of traffic, there are multiple ways to do that. 




On Mar 21, 2017 9:38 AM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote: 



Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined. Some radio vendors 
do this but apparently not all. 

Rory 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:23 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 


He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie. 



Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the bugs 
unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;) 



On Mar 21, 2017 8:19 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 


Your not watching of my videos has failed you. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15:39 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 

It's not listed on their website I don't believe. Neither of the currently 
listed options mention trill in the data sheet. 



On Mar 21, 2017 6:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 


I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net >

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-22 Thread Rory Conaway

Your idea did give me a lead though.  Thanks.

rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

SDWAN?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:47 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Interesting.  Just talked to SIAE yesterday and they won't have radios 
available for a while.   I believe we have 2 ideas on the table though, to 
address this.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Seems like you might need some Cisco and SIAE gear?

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/unified-ran-backhaul/white_paper_c11-728355.html

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:20 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Can be routed or switched.   The end result simply needs to be 40Gbps with 
lower speeds optional in harsh weather with minimal latency.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

That was an Accedian product.

So you need 40Gbps... at a minimum of 8x10Gbps at each end.

I think MikroTik has an 8 port 10Gbps CCR, but I don't have any experience with 
it.
Can the hop be routed, or must it be switched?

Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:image001.png@01D2A30B.B04F9920]

Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:image001.png@01D2A30B.B04F9920]
On Mar 21, 2017 9:50 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Josh, what was that product that you used to rep?

I actually need 40Gbps across 1 hop with four 10Gbps radios.  Just need to 
figure out the best way to do it.  Kevin Myers just posted this on Facebook.

http://www.stubarea51.net/2016/10/27/wisp-design-using-ospf-to-build-a-transit-fabric-over-unequal-links/

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:48 AM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Right. If you need a 10G+ stream, you'll need in-radio bonding. If you just 
need 10+ Gbps of traffic, there are multiple ways to do that.

On Mar 21, 2017 9:38 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined.  Some radio vendors 
do this but apparently not all.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie.

Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the bugs 
unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;)

On Mar 21, 2017 8:19 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Your not watching of my videos has failed you.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-22 Thread Rory Conaway

It still needs feedback from the radios as far as I can tell but it's an 
interesting idea.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

SDWAN?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:47 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Interesting.  Just talked to SIAE yesterday and they won't have radios 
available for a while.   I believe we have 2 ideas on the table though, to 
address this.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Seems like you might need some Cisco and SIAE gear?

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/unified-ran-backhaul/white_paper_c11-728355.html

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:20 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Can be routed or switched.   The end result simply needs to be 40Gbps with 
lower speeds optional in harsh weather with minimal latency.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

That was an Accedian product.

So you need 40Gbps... at a minimum of 8x10Gbps at each end.

I think MikroTik has an 8 port 10Gbps CCR, but I don't have any experience with 
it.
Can the hop be routed, or must it be switched?

Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:image001.png@01D2A30B.9789BD80]

Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:image001.png@01D2A30B.9789BD80]
On Mar 21, 2017 9:50 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Josh, what was that product that you used to rep?

I actually need 40Gbps across 1 hop with four 10Gbps radios.  Just need to 
figure out the best way to do it.  Kevin Myers just posted this on Facebook.

http://www.stubarea51.net/2016/10/27/wisp-design-using-ospf-to-build-a-transit-fabric-over-unequal-links/

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:48 AM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Right. If you need a 10G+ stream, you'll need in-radio bonding. If you just 
need 10+ Gbps of traffic, there are multiple ways to do that.

On Mar 21, 2017 9:38 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined.  Some radio vendors 
do this but apparently not all.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie.

Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the bugs 
unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;)

On Mar 21, 2017 8:19 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Your not watching of my videos has failed you.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.fac

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-22 Thread Gino Villarini

SDWAN?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:47 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Interesting.  Just talked to SIAE yesterday and they won’t have radios 
available for a while.   I believe we have 2 ideas on the table though, to 
address this.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Seems like you might need some Cisco and SIAE gear?

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/unified-ran-backhaul/white_paper_c11-728355.html

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:20 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Can be routed or switched.   The end result simply needs to be 40Gbps with 
lower speeds optional in harsh weather with minimal latency.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

That was an Accedian product.

So you need 40Gbps... at a minimum of 8x10Gbps at each end.

I think MikroTik has an 8 port 10Gbps CCR, but I don't have any experience with 
it.
Can the hop be routed, or must it be switched?

Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:image001.png@01D2A2D9.BB3A9FB0]

Gino Villarini

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On Mar 21, 2017 9:50 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Josh, what was that product that you used to rep?

I actually need 40Gbps across 1 hop with four 10Gbps radios.  Just need to 
figure out the best way to do it.  Kevin Myers just posted this on Facebook.

http://www.stubarea51.net/2016/10/27/wisp-design-using-ospf-to-build-a-transit-fabric-over-unequal-links/

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:48 AM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Right. If you need a 10G+ stream, you'll need in-radio bonding. If you just 
need 10+ Gbps of traffic, there are multiple ways to do that.

On Mar 21, 2017 9:38 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined.  Some radio vendors 
do this but apparently not all.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie.

Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the bugs 
unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;)

On Mar 21, 2017 8:19 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Your not watching of my videos has failed you.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-22 Thread Rory Conaway

Interesting.  Just talked to SIAE yesterday and they won't have radios 
available for a while.   I believe we have 2 ideas on the table though, to 
address this.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Seems like you might need some Cisco and SIAE gear?

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/unified-ran-backhaul/white_paper_c11-728355.html

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:20 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Can be routed or switched.   The end result simply needs to be 40Gbps with 
lower speeds optional in harsh weather with minimal latency.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

That was an Accedian product.

So you need 40Gbps... at a minimum of 8x10Gbps at each end.

I think MikroTik has an 8 port 10Gbps CCR, but I don't have any experience with 
it.
Can the hop be routed, or must it be switched?

Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:image001.png@01D2A2D9.BB3A9FB0]
On Mar 21, 2017 9:50 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Josh, what was that product that you used to rep?

I actually need 40Gbps across 1 hop with four 10Gbps radios.  Just need to 
figure out the best way to do it.  Kevin Myers just posted this on Facebook.

http://www.stubarea51.net/2016/10/27/wisp-design-using-ospf-to-build-a-transit-fabric-over-unequal-links/

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:48 AM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Right. If you need a 10G+ stream, you'll need in-radio bonding. If you just 
need 10+ Gbps of traffic, there are multiple ways to do that.

On Mar 21, 2017 9:38 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined.  Some radio vendors 
do this but apparently not all.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie.

Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the bugs 
unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;)

On Mar 21, 2017 8:19 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Your not watching of my videos has failed you.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
____
From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
It's not listed on their website I don't believe. Neither of the currently 
listed options mention trill in the data sheet.

On Mar 21, 2017 6:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af..

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-22 Thread Gino Villarini

Seems like you might need some Cisco and SIAE gear?

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/unified-ran-backhaul/white_paper_c11-728355.html

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:20 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Can be routed or switched.   The end result simply needs to be 40Gbps with 
lower speeds optional in harsh weather with minimal latency.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

That was an Accedian product.

So you need 40Gbps... at a minimum of 8x10Gbps at each end.

I think MikroTik has an 8 port 10Gbps CCR, but I don't have any experience with 
it.
Can the hop be routed, or must it be switched?

Gino Villarini

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On Mar 21, 2017 9:50 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Josh, what was that product that you used to rep?

I actually need 40Gbps across 1 hop with four 10Gbps radios.  Just need to 
figure out the best way to do it.  Kevin Myers just posted this on Facebook.

http://www.stubarea51.net/2016/10/27/wisp-design-using-ospf-to-build-a-transit-fabric-over-unequal-links/

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:48 AM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Right. If you need a 10G+ stream, you'll need in-radio bonding. If you just 
need 10+ Gbps of traffic, there are multiple ways to do that.

On Mar 21, 2017 9:38 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined.  Some radio vendors 
do this but apparently not all.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie.

Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the bugs 
unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;)

On Mar 21, 2017 8:19 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Your not watching of my videos has failed you.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
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The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]

<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
____
From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
It's not listed on their website I don't believe. Neither of the currently 
listed options mention trill in the data sheet.

On Mar 21, 2017 6:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Rory Conaway

Can be routed or switched.   The end result simply needs to be 40Gbps with 
lower speeds optional in harsh weather with minimal latency.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

That was an Accedian product.

So you need 40Gbps... at a minimum of 8x10Gbps at each end.

I think MikroTik has an 8 port 10Gbps CCR, but I don't have any experience with 
it.
Can the hop be routed, or must it be switched?

On Mar 21, 2017 9:50 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Josh, what was that product that you used to rep?

I actually need 40Gbps across 1 hop with four 10Gbps radios.  Just need to 
figure out the best way to do it.  Kevin Myers just posted this on Facebook.

http://www.stubarea51.net/2016/10/27/wisp-design-using-ospf-to-build-a-transit-fabric-over-unequal-links/

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:48 AM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Right. If you need a 10G+ stream, you'll need in-radio bonding. If you just 
need 10+ Gbps of traffic, there are multiple ways to do that.

On Mar 21, 2017 9:38 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined.  Some radio vendors 
do this but apparently not all.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie.

Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the bugs 
unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;)

On Mar 21, 2017 8:19 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Your not watching of my videos has failed you.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
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The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]

<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
It's not listed on their website I don't believe. Neither of the currently 
listed options mention trill in the data sheet.

On Mar 21, 2017 6:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]

<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds

That was an Accedian product.

So you need 40Gbps... at a minimum of 8x10Gbps at each end.

I think MikroTik has an 8 port 10Gbps CCR, but I don't have any experience
with it.
Can the hop be routed, or must it be switched?

On Mar 21, 2017 9:50 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

Josh, what was that product that you used to rep?



I actually need 40Gbps across 1 hop with four 10Gbps radios.  Just need to
figure out the best way to do it.  Kevin Myers just posted this on Facebook.

http://www.stubarea51.net/2016/10/27/wisp-design-using-
ospf-to-build-a-transit-fabric-over-unequal-links/



Rory



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:48 AM

*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links



Right. If you need a 10G+ stream, you'll need in-radio bonding. If you just
need 10+ Gbps of traffic, there are multiple ways to do that.



On Mar 21, 2017 9:38 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined.  Some radio
vendors do this but apparently not all.



Rory



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:23 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links



He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie.



Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the bugs
unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;)



On Mar 21, 2017 8:19 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

Your not watching of my videos has failed you.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
--

*From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15:39 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

It's not listed on their website I don't believe. Neither of the currently
listed options mention trill in the data sheet.



On Mar 21, 2017 6:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
--

*From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, March 20, 2017 11:30:07 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Lots of options today and redundancy with the switches wouldn’t be a bad
thing either.



*Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*

*4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*

*r...@triadwireless.net <r...@triadwireless.net>*

*www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*



“An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist,
half-empty; and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it
needs to be”

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Rory Conaway

Josh, what was that product that you used to rep?

I actually need 40Gbps across 1 hop with four 10Gbps radios.  Just need to 
figure out the best way to do it.  Kevin Myers just posted this on Facebook.

http://www.stubarea51.net/2016/10/27/wisp-design-using-ospf-to-build-a-transit-fabric-over-unequal-links/

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Right. If you need a 10G+ stream, you'll need in-radio bonding. If you just 
need 10+ Gbps of traffic, there are multiple ways to do that.

On Mar 21, 2017 9:38 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined.  Some radio vendors 
do this but apparently not all.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie.

Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the bugs 
unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;)

On Mar 21, 2017 8:19 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Your not watching of my videos has failed you.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
It's not listed on their website I don't believe. Neither of the currently 
listed options mention trill in the data sheet.

On Mar 21, 2017 6:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
____
From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 11:30:07 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
Lots of options today and redundancy with the switches wouldn’t be a bad thing 
either.

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542<tel:(602)%20426-0542>
r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
www.triadwireless.net<http://www.triadwireless.net/>

“An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist, half-empty; 
and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it needs to be”

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds

Right. If you need a 10G+ stream, you'll need in-radio bonding. If you just
need 10+ Gbps of traffic, there are multiple ways to do that.

On Mar 21, 2017 9:38 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined.  Some radio
> vendors do this but apparently not all.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:23 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
>
>
>
> He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie.
>
>
>
> Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the
> bugs unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;)
>
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2017 8:19 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> Your not watching of my videos has failed you.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15:39 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
>
> It's not listed on their website I don't believe. Neither of the currently
> listed options mention trill in the data sheet.
>
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2017 6:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, March 20, 2017 11:30:07 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
>
> Lots of options today and redundancy with the switches wouldn’t be a bad
> thing either.
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net <r...@triadwireless.net>*
>
> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>
>
>
> “An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist,
> half-empty; and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it
> needs to be”
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Rory Conaway

Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined.  Some radio vendors 
do this but apparently not all.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie.

Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the bugs 
unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;)

On Mar 21, 2017 8:19 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Your not watching of my videos has failed you.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
It's not listed on their website I don't believe. Neither of the currently 
listed options mention trill in the data sheet.

On Mar 21, 2017 6:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]

<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
____________
From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 11:30:07 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
Lots of options today and redundancy with the switches wouldn’t be a bad thing 
either.

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542<tel:(602)%20426-0542>
r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
www.triadwireless.net<http://www.triadwireless.net/>

“An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist, half-empty; 
and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it needs to be”

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds

He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie.

Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the bugs
unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;)

On Mar 21, 2017 8:19 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Your not watching of my videos has failed you.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15:39 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
>
> It's not listed on their website I don't believe. Neither of the currently
> listed options mention trill in the data sheet.
>
> On Mar 21, 2017 6:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, March 20, 2017 11:30:07 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
>>
>> Lots of options today and redundancy with the switches wouldn’t be a bad
>> thing either.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net <r...@triadwireless.net>*
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>>
>>
>>
>> “An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist,
>> half-empty; and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it
>> needs to be”
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett

https://youtu.be/FY4HsRTmllA?t=9m45s 

Right, it's not yet available. 

You could be right on the port availability. I've asked them for clarification. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: fiber...@mail.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:03:01 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 

I thought that Ignitenet switch only came with one 10G port? And that it's not 
yet available? 

Jared 



Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 
From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 

I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch. 


- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/] 
[https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL][https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb][https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions][https://twitter.com/ICSIL]
 
Midwest Internet Exchange[http://www.midwest-ix.com/] 
[https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix][https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange][https://twitter.com/mdwestix]
 
The Brothers WISP[http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/] 
[https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp][https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg]
 



 

From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 11:30:07 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 

Lots of options today and redundancy with the switches wouldn’t be a bad thing 
either. 

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 
602-426-0542[tel:602-426-0542] 
r...@triadwireless.net[mailto:r...@triadwireless.net] 
www.triadwireless.net[http://www.triadwireless.net/] 

“An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist, half-empty; 
and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it needs to be”

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett

Your not watching of my videos has failed you. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15:39 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 


It's not listed on their website I don't believe. Neither of the currently 
listed options mention trill in the data sheet. 


On Mar 21, 2017 6:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 11:30:07 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 



Lots of options today and redundancy with the switches wouldn’t be a bad thing 
either. 

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 
4226 S. 37 th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 
602-426-0542 
r...@triadwireless.net 
www.triadwireless.net 

“An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist, half-empty; 
and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it needs to be”

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds

I wouldn't use switches if given an option. I'd try to find a small router
with a pair of 10Gbps ports, use two of those devices (one radio on each
router) and setup OSPF ECMP. This gives you hardware HA

On Mar 20, 2017 11:30 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

> Lots of options today and redundancy with the switches wouldn’t be a bad
> thing either.
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist,
> half-empty; and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it
> needs to be”
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds

It's not listed on their website I don't believe. Neither of the currently
listed options mention trill in the data sheet.

On Mar 21, 2017 6:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ----------
> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, March 20, 2017 11:30:07 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
>
> Lots of options today and redundancy with the switches wouldn’t be a bad
> thing either.
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net <r...@triadwireless.net>*
>
> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>
>
>
> “An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist,
> half-empty; and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it
> needs to be”
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds

Both the switches listed on their website have 4x10 uplinks.

On Mar 21, 2017 8:03 AM, <fiber...@mail.com> wrote:

> I thought that Ignitenet switch only came with one 10G port? And that it's
> not yet available?
>
> Jared
>
>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017
> From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
>
> I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/]
> [https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL][https://plus.google.com/+
> IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb][https://www.linkedin.
> com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions][https://twitter.com/ICSIL]
> Midwest Internet Exchange[http://www.midwest-ix.com/]
> [https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix][https://www.
> linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange][https://
> twitter.com/mdwestix]
> The Brothers WISP[http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/]
> [https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp][https://www.
> youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg]
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 11:30:07 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links
>
> Lots of options today and redundancy with the switches wouldn’t be a bad
> thing either.
>
> Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
> 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
> 602-426-0542[tel:602-426-0542]
> r...@triadwireless.net[mailto:r...@triadwireless.net]
> www.triadwireless.net[http://www.triadwireless.net/]
>
> “An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist,
> half-empty; and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it
> needs to be”
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread fiberrun

I thought that Ignitenet switch only came with one 10G port? And that it's not 
yet available?

Jared
 
 

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017
From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch.
 

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/]
[https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL][https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb][https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions][https://twitter.com/ICSIL]
Midwest Internet Exchange[http://www.midwest-ix.com/]
[https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix][https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange][https://twitter.com/mdwestix]
The Brothers WISP[http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/]
[https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp][https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg]


 


From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 11:30:07 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

Lots of options today and redundancy with the switches wouldn’t be a bad thing 
either. 
 
Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542[tel:602-426-0542]
r...@triadwireless.net[mailto:r...@triadwireless.net]
www.triadwireless.net[http://www.triadwireless.net/]
 
“An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist, half-empty; 
and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it needs to be”

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett

I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 11:30:07 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links 



Lots of options today and redundancy with the switches wouldn’t be a bad thing 
either. 

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 
4226 S. 37 th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 
602-426-0542 
r...@triadwireless.net 
www.triadwireless.net 

“An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist, half-empty; 
and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it needs to be”

[AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-20 Thread Rory Conaway

Lots of options today and redundancy with the switches wouldn't be a bad thing 
either.

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist, half-empty; 
and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it needs to be"

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