Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU accesscabling?
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > I would get your potential new customer to go visit with the owner of the > MDU and explain to them how the monopoly play is harming their ability to > do business with competitors that provide a better value. > > The MDU owner will listen to their tenant more than they will listen to > you. > > *From:* Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2016 1:22 PM > *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU > accesscabling? > > owners sent us to them (other provider) > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > wrote: > >> Why are you listening to them? Or talking to them? Why can't you talk >> to the building owner. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> its cat5 and fiber. We want to bypass it... but cable owner says we >>> "have" to use it >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>> >>>> Phone and coax are owned by the property no matter who installed it. >>>> >>>> Fiber and cat5/6 Ethernet is still kind of a grey area that hasn't been >>>> determined. But would probably follow the same rules. >>>> >>>> On Monday, January 25, 2016, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> A local provider wired a whole business MDU. We are trying to light >>>>> up a customer on the premises. They are charging ridiculous fees to >>>>> access >>>>> the cabling. Is this legal? >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU accesscabling?
me either... ill try to get a written permission from the owners/mngmt On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > I don’t think they can do that. Especially if the property owner says you > can bypass it. > > *From:* Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2016 1:18 PM > *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU > accesscabling? > > its cat5 and fiber. We want to bypass it... but cable owner says we > "have" to use it > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: > >> Phone and coax are owned by the property no matter who installed it. >> >> Fiber and cat5/6 Ethernet is still kind of a grey area that hasn't been >> determined. But would probably follow the same rules. >> >> On Monday, January 25, 2016, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> A local provider wired a whole business MDU. We are trying to light up >>> a customer on the premises. They are charging ridiculous fees to access >>> the cabling. Is this legal? >>> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU accesscabling?
I would get your potential new customer to go visit with the owner of the MDU and explain to them how the monopoly play is harming their ability to do business with competitors that provide a better value. The MDU owner will listen to their tenant more than they will listen to you. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:22 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU accesscabling? owners sent us to them (other provider) On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: Why are you listening to them? Or talking to them? Why can't you talk to the building owner. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote: its cat5 and fiber. We want to bypass it... but cable owner says we "have" to use it On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: Phone and coax are owned by the property no matter who installed it. Fiber and cat5/6 Ethernet is still kind of a grey area that hasn't been determined. But would probably follow the same rules. On Monday, January 25, 2016, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote: A local provider wired a whole business MDU. We are trying to light up a customer on the premises. They are charging ridiculous fees to access the cabling. Is this legal?
Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU accesscabling?
I don’t think they can do that. Especially if the property owner says you can bypass it. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:18 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU accesscabling? its cat5 and fiber. We want to bypass it... but cable owner says we "have" to use it On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: Phone and coax are owned by the property no matter who installed it. Fiber and cat5/6 Ethernet is still kind of a grey area that hasn't been determined. But would probably follow the same rules. On Monday, January 25, 2016, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote: A local provider wired a whole business MDU. We are trying to light up a customer on the premises. They are charging ridiculous fees to access the cabling. Is this legal?
Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU accesscabling?
are you saying you need some buildings burned down? Because Im hearing you need some buildings burned down On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> I would get your potential new customer to go visit with the owner of the >> MDU and explain to them how the monopoly play is harming their ability to >> do business with competitors that provide a better value. >> >> The MDU owner will listen to their tenant more than they will listen to >> you. >> >> *From:* Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2016 1:22 PM >> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU >> accesscabling? >> >> owners sent us to them (other provider) >> >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman < >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >>> Why are you listening to them? Or talking to them? Why can't you talk >>> to the building owner. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> its cat5 and fiber. We want to bypass it... but cable owner says we >>>> "have" to use it >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Phone and coax are owned by the property no matter who installed it. >>>>> >>>>> Fiber and cat5/6 Ethernet is still kind of a grey area that hasn't >>>>> been determined. But would probably follow the same rules. >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, January 25, 2016, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A local provider wired a whole business MDU. We are trying to light >>>>>> up a customer on the premises. They are charging ridiculous fees to >>>>>> access >>>>>> the cabling. Is this legal? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
